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General Discussion => SAMFS => Topic started by: Yossarian on February 04, 2013, 08:27:46 PM

Title: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Yossarian on February 04, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/new-7-million-salisbury-fire-station-will-help-meet-demands-of-growing-population/story-e6frea6u-1226570010767 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/new-7-million-salisbury-fire-station-will-help-meet-demands-of-growing-population/story-e6frea6u-1226570010767)

Sounds like it will be an impressive one, for $7 million you'd hope so.  Looking forward to seeing it progress.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: misterteddy on February 04, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
$7mil....not that far off the entire CFS training budget. One day someone might review the Tahj's and decide that a shed with an attached simple building might be more prudent financially
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on February 05, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
$7mil....not that far off the entire CFS training budget. One day someone might review the Tahj's and decide that a shed with an attached simple building might be more prudent financially
Yeah and no other government employees can move in to new office blocks :roll:. The new stations are built for a 50year life span so $7 million isnt too excessive.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Darius on February 06, 2013, 08:40:40 AM
Personally I don't begrudge the MFS new stations, they are funded properly and CFS isn't, it's that simple.  CFS and the CFSVA should be lobbying for equivalent funding to MFS for training and equipment.

Just for interest I did some sums based on figures for 2011-2012 from the promo unit website.

There are 5 groups in the CFS that did more than 500 calls each for the year. That's 33 brigades that did a total of 4483 calls for the year.

Assuming on average each of those groups receives around $230,000 annual funding allocation. That figure is based on what I know of my group and extrapolating a bit for the others.  It does not include any amount for brigade stations or trucks (many of which were paid by councils anyway before CFS took it over but nevertheless an amount has to be budgeted for replacement).  It includes some training costs but not all and most equipment but not all.

That means it costs $1.1m to run the busiest 5 groups (33 brigades) doing around 4500 calls per year in some of the highest risk and highly populated areas in the state.  That's quite a bargain the government and taxpayers of the state are getting.

Even if we include the "other costs", say 1 new truck per group per year ($400K), other equipment ($50K), other training ($50K), misc other stuff ($70K) that still only comes to $800K per group, which is $4m per year for those 5 groups (33 brigades) or just over $120,000 per brigade per year.

What's the MFS budget for 1 station per year, ignoring salaries?
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: fire8029 on February 06, 2013, 09:20:38 AM
MFS budget for a year, lets say $120M, roughly $84M of that is wages, left with $36M divided by 46 stations is $782,000 per year for each station.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: misterteddy on February 06, 2013, 11:22:43 AM
Yeah and no other government employees can move in to new office blocks :roll:

oh no they can.....but they dont share 400plus sq m between 4 people with gym facilities

I'm not saying dont build new stations, not saying cut down the size.....but $7mil???....c'mon Ferret, you've been to Seaford, Paradise and Beulah Park, they are over-specced for what they need to be.

Fire8029, not sure your sums are that valid.....theres a whole bunch of other costs to remove from the budget before you simplistically divide by 46 stations. Costs like Angle Park, Training (sep from APTC), Marine, Logistics and Infrastructure, Comms, Engineering, HQ, utilities etc etc. However Darius is right, they are significantly better funded per capita than CFS. And yet, funding isnt a CFSVA priority apparantly
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on February 06, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
Yeah and no other government employees can move in to new office blocks :roll:

oh no they can.....but they dont share 400plus sq m between 4 people with gym facilities

I'm not saying dont build new stations, not saying cut down the size.....but $7mil???....c'mon Ferret, you've been to Seaford, Paradise and Beulah Park, they are over-specced for what they need to be.

Fire8029, not sure your sums are that valid.....theres a whole bunch of other costs to remove from the budget before you simplistically divide by 46 stations. Costs like Angle Park, Training (sep from APTC), Marine, Logistics and Infrastructure, Comms, Engineering, HQ, utilities etc etc. However Darius is right, they are significantly better funded per capita than CFS. And yet, funding isnt a CFSVA priority apparantly
The new stations are being built to house more than 4 people incase of expansion in the future years. The Salisbury one will house 2 trucks with the capability of 4 in the future. The gym facilities are there because firefighters need to be fit for their job and it is a requirement that they use the gyms. How many big fat overweight MFS firefighters do you see compared to other uniformed agencies? Not too many. With stations manned 24hrs a day 7 days a week 365 days a year there is going to be added costs. Training areas, decontamination areas, fully serviceable kitchens etc.
But i do agree the new stations are quite extravagant
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: CFS_Firey on February 06, 2013, 01:04:55 PM
Does anyone know why the lettering on the front of the station reads "Salisbury Command Fire Station"?
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Pipster on February 06, 2013, 01:07:43 PM
Other uniformed agencies don't generally have gyms on site, are not allocated any work time to dedicate to fitness, but fitness is a required part of the job!!

And they work 24/7 every day of the year too!!!

I certainly don't begrudge decent facilities for workers, but their seems to be quite a disparity between the various services......

Pip

Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on February 06, 2013, 01:44:25 PM
Other uniformed agencies don't generally have gyms on site, are not allocated any work time to dedicate to fitness, but fitness is a required part of the job!!

And they work 24/7 every day of the year too!!!

I certainly don't begrudge decent facilities for workers, but their seems to be quite a disparity between the various services......

Pip


Dont have too much "station envy", in 30yrs time the station will be run down and bearly liveable like O'hallaran hill is now.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: fire8029 on February 06, 2013, 03:23:23 PM
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Fire8029, not sure your sums are that valid.....theres a whole bunch of other costs to remove from the budget before you simplistically divide by 46 stations. Costs like Angle Park, Training (sep from APTC), Marine, Logistics and Infrastructure, Comms, Engineering, HQ, utilities etc etc. However Darius is right, they are significantly better funded per capita than CFS. And yet, funding isnt a CFSVA priority apparantly
The new stations are being built to house more than 4 people incase of expansion in the future years. The Salisbury one will house 2 trucks with the capability of 4 in the future. The gym facilities are there because firefighters need to be fit for their job and it is a requirement that they use the gyms. How many big fat overweight MFS firefighters do you see compared to other uniformed agencies? Not too many. With stations manned 24hrs a day 7 days a week 365 days a year there is going to be added costs. Training areas, decontamination areas, fully serviceable kitchens etc.
But i do agree the new stations are quite extravagant

I know that, it's a very basic breakdown without taking all that into consideration, so even if you drop it down to say 200k per station, its not much per year, taking in things like trucks, maintanance etc.




Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Yossarian on February 07, 2013, 05:01:18 AM
I would be interested to know what you get for 7m.  Even with the fit out of kitchen gyms etc it sounds like a hell of a lot of money unless new trucks are included. Now i'm no builder but if you can build a common house for $200,000, land not included surely a large construction like this can be done for half the price. Is it good value for money or just a case of it's Government lets jack up the price.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: fire8029 on February 07, 2013, 06:45:05 AM
Because it's probably got to have fancy doors and handles and lots of stupid stuff because its a government building.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on February 07, 2013, 07:03:14 AM
I would be interested to know what you get for 7m.  Even with the fit out of kitchen gyms etc it sounds like a hell of a lot of money unless new trucks are included. Now i'm no builder but if you can build a common house for $200,000, land not included surely a large construction like this can be done for half the price. Is it good value for money or just a case of it's Government lets jack up the price.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: crossy on February 07, 2013, 08:51:22 AM
The usal for building anything for government is cost it then double it... The amount of over engineering and bull you have to put up with is beyond a joke!
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: misterteddy on February 07, 2013, 08:52:48 AM
You cant build much of a house for 200k completely fitted out.You cannot compare it to a house unless you want to build a house with 16 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms, home office for atleast 4 people, gym, training area, garaging for 4 trucks with extraction for diesel fumes, cleaning and maintenance area for BA etc, huge kitchen, probably has recycled water facility for training. Now go get fairmont homes to give you a quote on that.Plus add the government factor

16 Bedrooms.....oh please, you're actually paid to work, by all means doze on a couch if u have some down time, but you should be expected to be able to present yourself at work able to complete a 14 hour shift without the need for a bed, doona, pillow and teddy bear. All night in is a luxury, not a right!

4 bathrooms? Building code says 16 people require one toilet and one shower, with seperate facilities for males and females.

Gym and Training Area: Combined space, clear your crap up if the planets align and training is done inside and onsite

Cleaning and maintenance area for BA. Its open space, the cheapest part of a building.

Diesal fume extraction....fair call, google it and systems pop up for around $6k

Huge kitchen. heres a novel concept - take lunch or dinner. Plenty of workspaces cater for the meal needs for many more staff than the mythical 16 planned at Salisbury with a fridge, microwave and a sandwich maker.

Recycled water facility??.....really? when APTC is just down the road, book off for training for an hour and go dirty up someone elses place.

Ferret, I'm not having a go at you. But the attitude of entitlement is rampant in the mfs (and saas career ranks too). Its about time someone took some of these excesses to task for what they are....luxuries, in a time when other people who work harder in the community make do with rubbish facilities.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: misterteddy on February 07, 2013, 08:57:37 AM
oh and while I'm at it.....what plan written, or even dreamed, of says that Salisbury will have 4 appliances? This model doesnt feature anywhere else in the state, why is Salisbury different? Even if it were to happen in the 49th year of the supposed 50 year life of building, a prudent organisation would build a building that fitted 2 appliances and facilities for 8 crew, with space and allowances to mirror the engine room and office space if, and its a big IF the 4 appliance plan ever saw the light of day.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on February 07, 2013, 09:14:35 AM
You cant build much of a house for 200k completely fitted out.You cannot compare it to a house unless you want to build a house with 16 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms, home office for atleast 4 people, gym, training area, garaging for 4 trucks with extraction for diesel fumes, cleaning and maintenance area for BA etc, huge kitchen, probably has recycled water facility for training. Now go get fairmont homes to give you a quote on that.Plus add the government factor

16 Bedrooms.....oh please, you're actually paid to work, by all means doze on a couch if u have some down time, but you should be expected to be able to present yourself at work able to complete a 14 hour shift without the need for a bed, doona, pillow and teddy bear. All night in is a luxury, not a right!

4 bathrooms? Building code says 16 people require one toilet and one shower, with seperate facilities for males and females.

Gym and Training Area: Combined space, clear your crap up if the planets align and training is done inside and onsite

Cleaning and maintenance area for BA. Its open space, the cheapest part of a building.

Diesal fume extraction....fair call, google it and systems pop up for around $6k

Huge kitchen. heres a novel concept - take lunch or dinner. Plenty of workspaces cater for the meal needs for many more staff than the mythical 16 planned at Salisbury with a fridge, microwave and a sandwich maker.

Recycled water facility??.....really? when APTC is just down the road, book off for training for an hour and go dirty up someone elses place.

Ferret, I'm not having a go at you. But the attitude of entitlement is rampant in the mfs (and saas career ranks too). Its about time someone took some of these excesses to task for what they are....luxuries, in a time when other people who work harder in the community make do with rubbish facilities.
Mr Teddy i dont want to get into an arguement about working conditions in different jobs. i was just trying to explain why the cost might be so high. Fire services all over the world have these conditions and facilities.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: flyonthewall on February 07, 2013, 07:59:57 PM
Funny  :-D

Ohhhhhhhhhhh  :-o

Sad  :cry:

Cool  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: misterteddy on February 07, 2013, 08:16:46 PM
Mr Teddy i dont want to get into an arguement about working conditions in different jobs. i was just trying to explain why the cost might be so high. Fire services all over the world have these conditions and facilities.

Ferret, believe it or not I'm not trying to start an argument with you either, just discuss the topic....but the time is coming when the practices of the past are going to be reviewed. Have you visited a UK fire station recently, I did in November. Many of them would kill for O'Halloran Hill, which most career firies here think is unsuitable for habitation, let alone manning. And facilities in many of the States stations are there because they do 24 hrs (and sometimes 48 hrs) on station - not 10 or 14 hours....by all means have a bed then....but they sleep in one big room, not seperate bedrooms.

My point, is that there has been an incredible creep in the standard of so-called requirements for a station....and pretty soon, someone will (or should) say enough
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: flyonthewall on February 07, 2013, 09:18:06 PM
Get over it people!


Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: FAO on February 08, 2013, 05:56:12 AM
Well done MFS. (no-sarcasm)
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: muscleandpluck on February 08, 2013, 06:52:35 AM
Mr T?
You appear to have major issues with the SAMFS?
A 4 Appliance, Command station may well be a part of the 40 year plan, considering the vast amount of urban sprawl in the Northern suburbs.
Quit bitching and use the energy for your organisation.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: flyonthewall on February 08, 2013, 08:20:25 AM
Having a bleet over a $7million MFS station that needs to be completely relocated and built from the ground up that is also in a rather busy metropolitan/urban fringe area, and is also being built with the future in mind so that there dosen't need to be any add-ons down the track is a joke in my eyes. The community gets a service that they can rely on to turn up in their time of need 100% of the time because they are ready to respond from their $7million fire station 24/7 365 days a year......

Also, I think it's pretty sad that some go knocking on fire station doors (both here and in other countries), to have a look inside and to have a chat with the firefighters .......  :?.
 
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on February 08, 2013, 09:02:18 AM

Also, I think it's pretty sad that some go knocking on fire station doors (both here and in other countries), to have a look inside and to have a chat with the firefighters .......  :?.
 

You have got to be kidding right??
That is possibly the most stupid and narrow minded comments of late?

Why not do it?

When i was in Germany last year i went and visited the local volunteer station for a look, had a great chat to one of their firies there, and it was good to learn the differences between the services for both of us..

So i am guessing if you were given the chance to go on the truck to a few jobs with another service elswhere in the world you would knock it back because it was "pretty sad"???

Obviously for someone as narrow minded as yourself you have no interest to learn anything outside of what u already know so i guess it wouldnt be for you.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: FlameTrees on February 08, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
But Region 2 HQ are forced to stay in a building for another 3 years that they have totally outgrown and is now barely functional.

Try getting in there on a busy day when you have SAPOL, SAAS, Council, MFS all in there as well!

Not to mention poor storage facilities for the vehicles they have and no vehicle security.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Bagyassfirey on February 08, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
But Region 2 HQ are forced to stay in a building for another 3 years that they have totally outgrown and is now barely functional.

Try getting in there on a busy day when you have SAPOL, SAAS, Council, MFS all in there as well!

Not to mention poor storage facilities for the vehicles they have and no vehicle security.

R2 HQ are not alone on the lack of space!
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Bagyassfirey on February 08, 2013, 09:43:59 AM
I think the thing that's hard to swallow for volunteers is the enormity and over the top look of new MFS stations 7 million is a lot of coin for something. Not that I don't agree it's justified my opinion is some of the "nice" things are just not warranted. And I Agree Big Al what a narrow minded statement!! "Those who don't ask don't learn"
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: pumprescue on February 08, 2013, 11:26:03 AM
Has anyone bothered to find out what the actual breakdown of costs are ? There might be a reason, Seaford was no where near as expensive, neither was Glen Osmond, maybe that was a strange figure plucked out to make it sound like they were pouring money into it. Even a CFS shed these days is insanely expensive for what you get, a shed.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on February 08, 2013, 11:49:35 AM
Has anyone bothered to find out what the actual breakdown of costs are ? There might be a reason, Seaford was no where near as expensive, neither was Glen Osmond, maybe that was a strange figure plucked out to make it sound like they were pouring money into it. Even a CFS shed these days is insanely expensive for what you get, a shed.
I heard it may include an SES station too. The "us versus them" whining on here is starting to get embarassing.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: flyonthewall on February 08, 2013, 11:59:20 AM
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Also, I think it's pretty sad that some go knocking on fire station doors (both here and in other countries), to have a look inside and to have a chat with the firefighters .......  .

My opinion only.

I say it again....

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Having a bleet over a $7million MFS station that needs to be completely relocated and built from the ground up that is also in a rather busy metropolitan/urban fringe area, and is also being built with the future in mind so that there dosen't need to be any add-ons down the track is a joke in my eyes. The community gets a service that they can rely on to turn up in their time of need 100% of the time because they are ready to respond from their $7million fire station 24/7 365 days a year......


Obviously, others may think that its just a fancy overpriced building but people 'live' in it, not just turn up and open the doors when their pager tells them to.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: flyonthewall on February 08, 2013, 12:19:34 PM
I forgot....Alan.......

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uote from: flyonthewall on Today at 02:50:25 AM

Also, I think it's pretty sad that some go knocking on fire station doors (both here and in other countries), to have a look inside and to have a chat with the firefighters .......  .
 


You have got to be kidding right??
That is possibly the most stupid and narrow minded comments of late?

Why not do it?

When i was in Germany last year i went and visited the local volunteer station for a look, had a great chat to one of their firies there, and it was good to learn the differences between the services for both of us..

So i am guessing if you were given the chance to go on the truck to a few jobs with another service elswhere in the world you would knock it back because it was "pretty sad"

Obviously for someone as narrow minded as yourself you have no interest to learn anything outside of what u already know so i guess it wouldnt be for you.

You did mention it was a volunteer station. I'm not sure about their security protocol but you being a firefighter and all that would know, wouldn't you?

And by the way, I don't mind learning a thing or two and just to let you know, when I'm on holiday, the fire service is the furthest thing from my mind, thats probably why I've gone on the holiday in the first place!
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: fire8029 on February 08, 2013, 02:00:21 PM
Has anyone bothered to find out what the actual breakdown of costs are ? There might be a reason, Seaford was no where near as expensive, neither was Glen Osmond, maybe that was a strange figure plucked out to make it sound like they were pouring money into it. Even a CFS shed these days is insanely expensive for what you get, a shed.


I was looking at the Glen Osmond report the other day and the total on that was still $5.05M
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: misterteddy on February 08, 2013, 02:55:43 PM
ahhhh boys.....  :lol:

I have no issue at all with the MFS, after all I used to work for them :) I quite like the people, I quite like the organisation, hell I even quite liked the perks.... but at some stage, you guys will be called on what you get - and the public who pay the bill, will want a better deal. It is a fat, wasteful and overpriced service.....one day, the Gov't will tell you (because the people told them). Oh and if you read my posts....I'm quite happy to bag CFS as well when they warrant it (which is often )so I'm an equal opportunity critic  :mrgreen:

So all those career guys who do shifts in New York so they get a NYFD photo and shirt are all losers too?......lol...half your shift will have done that. You have no idea why I visited them, nor what I was doing when I did. Me, I'm a fireman, doesnt matter if I'm on the clock being paid, sitting at home or in a cafe in Paris on holidays, whatever....I notice fire service things. For some its just a job (and sometimes a second job at that).

I'd like to see the 40 year SAFECOM plan for fire services that this requirement came from. It will be a comprehensive review of fire and emergency services resources based on population growth that the Gov't cant forecast (they only do 20 year predictions), contain the future of CFS/MFS boundaries, contain  the list of CFS areas set to be gazetted MFS, the introduction of new technology to augment fire service attendance, all the big issues. It exists right??.... I might even put in an FOI request to see it  :wink:

If Glen Osmond is $5mil, then we got a bargin at $7mil for Salisbury, case (and comment) closed

Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on February 09, 2013, 06:34:01 AM
ahhhh boys.....  :lol:

I have no issue at all with the MFS, after all I used to work for them :) I quite like the people, I quite like the organisation, hell I even quite liked the perks.... but at some stage, you guys will be called on what you get - and the public who pay the bill, will want a better deal. It is a fat, wasteful and overpriced service.....one day, the Gov't will tell you (because the people told them). Oh and if you read my posts....I'm quite happy to bag CFS as well when they warrant it (which is often )so I'm an equal opportunity critic  :mrgreen:

So all those career guys who do shifts in New York so they get a NYFD photo and shirt are all losers too?......lol...half your shift will have done that. You have no idea why I visited them, nor what I was doing when I did. Me, I'm a fireman, doesnt matter if I'm on the clock being paid, sitting at home or in a cafe in Paris on holidays, whatever....I notice fire service things. For some its just a job (and sometimes a second job at that).

I'd like to see the 40 year SAFECOM plan for fire services that this requirement came from. It will be a comprehensive review of fire and emergency services resources based on population growth that the Gov't cant forecast (they only do 20 year predictions), contain the future of CFS/MFS boundaries, contain  the list of CFS areas set to be gazetted MFS, the introduction of new technology to augment fire service attendance, all the big issues. It exists right??.... I might even put in an FOI request to see it  :wink:

If Glen Osmond is $5mil, then we got a bargin at $7mil for Salisbury, case (and comment) closed


So you weren't a firefighter in the samfs then ??
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: flyonthewall on February 09, 2013, 07:59:12 AM
misterteddy



I can respect your opinions and your experience but we are not living in NYC, nor do we have the same culture as the US. I have been there also and seen their run down dirty old 'fire houses' and how they are jammed between buildings and backstreets and truth be told, this is what makes the NYFD the NYFD. I did't get any NYFD photos but I did buy a shirt!

We don't live in the 1970's/80's or even 00's anymore. The job has moved on with the times and believe it or not, there are even females in the job hence some of the reason to have separate bedrooms and ammneties for their privacy. I assume that after working for the SAMFS, you would have some understanding of the SAMFS culture....., although I can understand that unless you have been in a fire service, it's hard to make sense of it looking in from the outside.

Mate, I'm a fireman too and I notice fire service things but I also know why they are spending $7million on a completely new, relocated, self sufficient, female friendly, environmentally friendly, 24/7, future envisaged, 365 day a year operational fire station.

By the way, Pies and Pasties don't cost 60c anymore and you cant even but a lolly for 5c either.

End of my comments also.



Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Bagyassfirey on February 09, 2013, 08:14:04 AM
Can I ask someone in the know, how does a MFS shift work? Is it 12 hours 2 shifts a day or different??
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: JJD on February 09, 2013, 08:20:19 AM
Shift System

On successful completion of the Recruit Course, you will be posted to a shift and station subject to staffing requirements.  It is possible that you may be posted to Port Pirie or Mount Gambier.

Full-time Firefighters are employed on a shift system to provide for 24 hour cover on every day of the year.

In the Adelaide metropolitan area, each shift works two 10 hour DAY shifts (each from 0800hours to 1800hours), followed on the next two days by two 14 hour NIGHT shifts (from 1800hours to 0800hours the following morning). The Firefighter then has four days off before starting the cycle again.

In Port Pirie, each shift works 24 hours, commencing 0800 hours, followed by three (3) days off before starting the cycle again.

In Mount Gambier, the full-time crew work during the day, Monday to Friday an average of 40 hours per week.

http://www.mfs.sa.gov.au/site/join_us/fulltime_firefighters.jsp (http://www.mfs.sa.gov.au/site/join_us/fulltime_firefighters.jsp)
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Alex on February 09, 2013, 10:45:33 AM
10/14s 4 on 4 off
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Yossarian on February 09, 2013, 10:00:55 PM
With my earlier post, I was not begrudging the MFS boys and girls of a top notch facility, I more inclined to believe the govt are being ripped off.  Does it really cost this amount of money to build it, is all I'm saying.  While were on the history trip, my father used to work for the PBD in ages past, pity theres not something like this still around, then Salisbury can have there new station and region 2 HQ could be repaired.
But then maybe I'm just ignorant to the price of things.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: safireservice on February 10, 2013, 07:44:14 AM
Does that price include the land? I went past the site yesterday on the way to the Barossa and it seem quite a large parcel of land, thats if it is going to take up the whole site.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Fire000 on February 10, 2013, 08:24:08 PM

Any word if the new MFS station will have any impact on CFS in the area?
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Alex on February 11, 2013, 12:06:53 AM

Any word if the new MFS station will have any impact on CFS in the area?


Salisbury CFS station is already well inside the MFS boundary so i would doubt it.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: bajdas on February 16, 2013, 07:26:19 AM
Does anyone know why the lettering on the front of the station reads "Salisbury Command Fire Station"?

I heard a few years ago that MFS Command structure will split Northern & Southern Adelaide rather than run from CBD. I understand they have been running Command cars that way for a few years now from the CBD.

Given the title of 'command' rather than just fire station, is this another step forward in that split command structure for MFS in the future ?
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Yossarian on March 08, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
After seeing the price of $1.3m for our new SA state logo, I take everything I said about the new station back, at only $7m what a bargain. :evil:
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: FF GAZZ on January 26, 2014, 06:11:47 PM
I haven't been down Nain North Rd for a little while, have they started any work on the new site yet?
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on January 27, 2014, 07:11:52 PM
I haven't been down Nain North Rd for a little while, have they started any work on the new site yet?

Yeah its nearly finished.  :-D
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: BT085 on January 28, 2014, 01:10:13 PM
So technically Ferret new station means they will need new recruits like me to fill it?  Or it doesn't work  that way ?
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Pipster on January 28, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
I doubt it BT085 - this station is a replacement for the existing Salisbury MFS station, not an addition

Pip

Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Monger on January 28, 2014, 04:16:35 PM
So technically Ferret new station means they will need new recruits like me to fill it?  Or it doesn't work  that way ?

Nah mate, its just replacing the old Salisbury station. If Mawson lakes eventuates they will need recruits to fill it
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Wholey on September 28, 2014, 11:53:50 PM
I heard a rumour that Edinburgh SES maybe moved to or adjacent to this new station.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: SA Firey on October 01, 2014, 12:24:05 PM
I heard a rumour that Edinburgh SES maybe moved to or adjacent to this new station.

Correct.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: bolts on March 06, 2015, 03:47:34 PM
So technically Ferret new station means they will need new recruits like me to fill it?  Or it doesn't work  that way ?

Nah mate, its just replacing the old Salisbury station. If Mawson lakes eventuates they will need recruits to fill it

The MFS has a "5 year plan" for the building / rebuilding of new stations. Mawson lakes will be done next which is scheduled to start next year. Next is St Mary's which will be similar in design to the new Salisbury command station. Then O'Halloran Hill (similar design to Mawson Lakes) and then Christies
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: bolts on March 07, 2015, 06:40:05 AM
Mr Teddy i dont want to get into an arguement about working conditions in different jobs. i was just trying to explain why the cost might be so high. Fire services all over the world have these conditions and facilities.

Have you visited a UK fire station recently, I did in November. Many of them would kill for O'Halloran Hill, which most career firies here think is unsuitable for habitation, let alone manning.

Don't know how you came up with this statement. I think you'll find that the permanent Firies at O'Halloran Hill don't mind their station at all.
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: Muscle n Pluck on May 19, 2015, 07:50:31 AM
Perhaps you should speak with them before u make these comments
The "Hill" is clearly the worst station, and is overdue for replacement.
And its a 40 year cycle.check your facts
Title: Re: New MFS station for Salisbury
Post by: bolts on May 22, 2015, 09:33:27 PM
Muscle N Pluck as I am one of the permanent Firies at The Hill I reckon I'm pretty well within my rights to make the comment that I did. Yes the station is coming to the end of its used by date (as you said stations are supposed to have a 40 year life span which will be up in 2018, so not yet overdue - check your facts) but I don't enjoy going to work any less just because our station is a little run down.