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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: fire03rescue on August 14, 2006, 02:21:19 PM

Title: Chevrons question
Post by: fire03rescue on August 14, 2006, 02:21:19 PM
Do brigades still issue chevrons when they are due or is this a thing of the past  :?
1 Chevron = 2 Years service
Red Star = 10 Years service
Gold Star = 20 Years service
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 14, 2006, 03:23:59 PM
Sadly fire03rescue its a thing of the past now as they stopped giving them out due to volunteers sewing them on to overalls so people on the fire ground could see how many years service they have plus the chevrons werent fire proof

If they were still giving them out i would have had 1 chevron and a red star sewed to my CFS hat by now
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CaptCom on August 14, 2006, 03:34:02 PM
I believe that some of the problem came about with them being sewn on to PPC...
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: mengcfs on August 14, 2006, 03:44:49 PM
We all understand the no no's related to the chevrons and stars etc being sewn onto PPC. Since when have they stopped distributing them, our Brigade gave awards last year with chevrons and stars (albeit i'm not sure what i am going to do with them).
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: rescue5271 on August 14, 2006, 04:15:57 PM
You can still get them but can't wear them that is why there is a new CFS medal coming out.....
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Toast on August 14, 2006, 04:23:49 PM
yea i got given them a year or so back, but was told not to attach them to my turnout gear, so what was the point?
I supaglue mine to my helmet.
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: fire03rescue on August 14, 2006, 04:34:11 PM
What is the new cfs medal ?
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 14, 2006, 04:53:16 PM
Yeah tell us Blinky  :-o :-D
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: corecutters on August 14, 2006, 07:17:01 PM
You still get the Certificate and the bars / stars -( I was led to believe a cheveron is an arrow stripe like Police / MFS - not the solid straight bar)....  Nice thing to keep at the bottom of the drawer for memory sake. -(got mine in an evelope)
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: medevac on August 14, 2006, 09:03:14 PM
you still get service awards!!!

whatever happened to the stickers on helmets... little bars for 2 years and the little starts for 10s as stated... do most brigades still do thast? unfortunately i think that has stopped also.

for those that dont know; these little stickers would generally sit on the reflective striping on the helmet side... :wink:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: D_wan on August 15, 2006, 12:45:17 AM
we still get chevrons given to us, but the same policy with them on ppc
i personally think a good place for then is on a brigade polo sleeve
that way people are still seeing how many years service you have achieved, which i think is something to be proud of.
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: SA Firey on August 17, 2006, 10:43:43 AM
And when you get Life Membership they cant sack you :-D :lol:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: oz fire on August 18, 2006, 12:44:45 PM
Fully sick mate!

Yes, I too have always dreamed of turning my CFS polo shirt, T-shirt and alike into boy scout shirts, with badges from one side to the other!

The pride I wear is my PPE/C - it shows my commitment to my comunity, my service and my dedication!
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: PF_ on August 18, 2006, 05:01:00 PM
 :lol: easy tiger!

Wearing cherons on your polo also shows commitment to the community and they can see you have done something special and are a well dedicated member with chevrons on the shirt.  You have been drinking too much red cordial buddy  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Toast on August 19, 2006, 03:48:09 PM
:lol: easy tiger!

Wearing cherons on your polo also shows commitment to the community and they can see you have done something special and are a well dedicated member with chevrons on the shirt.  You have been drinking too much red cordial buddy  :mrgreen:

Chevrons, I can see them fitting on the dress uniform... but the brigade polo? ahahahahaha
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 19, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
It's sad as I never even got one chevron which symbolises 2 years when I passed my 2 years service in 2002  :cry:

   
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Manuel on August 20, 2006, 10:21:51 PM
talk to your capt, and if you want them that bad, i have too many :wink:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: firetruck on August 21, 2006, 10:21:44 AM
:lol: easy tiger!

Wearing cherons on your polo also shows commitment to the community and they can see you have done something special and are a well dedicated member with chevrons on the shirt.  You have been drinking too much red cordial buddy  :mrgreen:

Chevrons, I can see them fitting on the dress uniform... but the brigade polo? ahahahahaha

can you get a red cord in the CFS? manuel also needs a badge to acknowledge 25 nights under canvas! hahahaha. sorry manny, but the mental image of a brigade polo with chevrons is just too filtered much! hahahaha :lol:

Mod note: language
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: standpipe on August 21, 2006, 10:59:20 AM
Quote
i just got some Chevrons given to me, for my service, and have got them put on my CFS polo, it looks quite impressive.
Sigh............!
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: oz fire on August 23, 2006, 11:41:29 AM
:lol: easy tiger!

Wearing cherons on your polo also shows commitment to the community and they can see you have done something special and are a well dedicated member with chevrons on the shirt.  You have been drinking too much red cordial buddy  :mrgreen:

Sorry Lion Heart to offend - but do you really think that Mr Average down the street knows or even gives a toss what we have sewn or applicated onto our polo shirts! IF our community was interested, I believe we would see this in their support, not in their acknowledgment of what we wear!
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CyberCitizen on August 23, 2006, 12:56:04 PM
i just got some Chevrons given to me, for my service, and have got them put on my CFS polo, it looks quite impressive. Our Captain wants to keep the tradition up, and i think it is good.

Agreed Sigh, I Want To See A Photo Now Though.
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: SA Firey on August 23, 2006, 02:06:02 PM
:lol: easy tiger!

Wearing cherons on your polo also shows commitment to the community and they can see you have done something special and are a well dedicated member with chevrons on the shirt.  You have been drinking too much red cordial buddy  :mrgreen:

Sorry Lion Heart to offend - but do you really think that Mr Average down the street knows or even gives a toss what we have sewn or applicated onto our polo shirts! IF our community was interested, I believe we would see this in their support, not in their acknowledgment of what we wear!

If the community was that appreciative we would have more daytime crews,but it takes some of us dedicated volunteers who put our hands up for the community :? 
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: PF_ on August 23, 2006, 06:45:13 PM
a chevron is those triangle shaped things coppers ahve on their shoulders arent they?

Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: corecutters on August 23, 2006, 07:39:49 PM
a chevron is those triangle shaped things coppers ahve on their shoulders arent they?



Yes.  Which I stated up the top of this thread somewhere..
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CFS_Firey on August 23, 2006, 10:50:38 PM
Either triangles (Are they whats issued now?) or a black (blue?) rectangle with a red strip in the middle of it...
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Manuel on August 23, 2006, 11:27:04 PM
yea well i got a some black triangles with red stripes in them
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CaptCom on August 24, 2006, 01:20:31 PM
they are obviously a bit like our Corporate logo...and on the way out...the organisation is possibly not dedicating enough energy into acknowledgement of the efforts of their vollies...I've been a vollie for 19yrs and only have a 15yr service certificate...not that I really care but we shouldn't have to jump up and down and wave our arms for acknowledgement of our time dedicated :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: corecutters on August 25, 2006, 02:34:44 PM
^ Have you got your national service?
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CaptCom on August 25, 2006, 02:40:49 PM
negative to national service... :cry:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Darius on August 25, 2006, 04:13:56 PM
negative to national service... :cry:

I think he means national medal, isn't that the one you get after 15yrs?

I don't think you automatically get any service awards, I think your brigade admin officer has to fill in the paperwork to request them.  Seems odd cos HQ know anyway, perhaps it's to avoid giving them to non-active members who are still on the books.
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: oz fire on August 28, 2006, 05:44:38 PM
To be awared the National medal - recipents must have given dilligent service for 15 years - some brigades see it as an honour (which it is) not a medal for every tom, filtered and harry - thats what the volunteers medal was for!
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CaptCom on August 29, 2006, 09:06:14 AM
I still haven't got one...and I am aware of the process..I just disagree with having to say...mmm..excuse me...but I've done 15 years of diligent service...could I have a medal??  I think that it should be driven by RO personally.. :-(
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 29, 2006, 09:30:07 AM
You arent the only one CaptCom i was supposed to get a chevron when i got my 10 years service certificate earlier this year  :cry:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: corecutters on August 29, 2006, 12:40:20 PM
Captcom - I know ur a DGO now, however if you speak to the admin officer of your last brigade, and mention to them about getting the paper put in.


- Ozfire - any one who serves for 15 years or more has put in a diligent effort in my opinion !
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 29, 2006, 02:00:32 PM
All Hail CaptCom the mighty DGO  8-) :-D

I'll have to wait another 5 years before getting the national medal  :-)
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CaptCom on August 29, 2006, 02:13:39 PM
Yes, I will mention to the admin officer...there's more than just me in the brigade that are eligible...no need to bow Robert34  :lol:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Mike on August 29, 2006, 02:19:47 PM
The thing is, if they were truely serious about recognising the volunteers then this would happen automatically.... not by request.

If I have to ask for something to honour members service, then i dont think they are truely honouring it are they! The thought probably hadent even crossed their minds!
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CaptCom on August 30, 2006, 09:21:43 AM
The thing is, if they were truely serious about recognising the volunteers then this would happen automatically.... not by request.

If I have to ask for something to honour members service, then i dont think they are truely honouring it are they! The thought probably hadent even crossed their minds!

couldnt have put it better myself!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: SA Firey on August 30, 2006, 09:37:55 AM
Thats called cocky "filtered" :-D
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: btriplefsmifff on September 23, 2006, 09:36:05 AM
I've seen a service award review book put out
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Smokeydk on October 17, 2006, 10:34:28 AM

National Medal.........I have one.....23 years.....My Father was in 27 years...Brigade Capt .then Deputy GO.......Group Training Officer.......but he didnt qualify for one back then...1994

I put My Chevrons in a frame with My 15 years certificate
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: SA Firey on October 17, 2006, 08:32:24 PM
I can see it now a Polo Shirt framed with pictures of the brigade members and the shirt signed by all of them :-D

CaptCom members are nominated for the National Medal usually done at a brigade meeting and a unanimous vote then the paperwork goes in.

I agree if you have been a member for fifteen years it should be automatic :wink: 
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: oz fire on October 18, 2006, 09:21:00 AM
Sorry still disagree with the automatic after 15 years!

What world are you people living in?????

CFS once stated 18500 fire fighters - with a guess of about 10000 active - that equates to 21 active members per brigade - what a load of steaming cow poo!!!!

Many, many brigades have people on their books, as active who they would be lucky to see once a year - why do these people deserve a national medal - they don't, they haven't displayed diligent service, they haven't provided back to the community when the comunity has put in ($$$ for training, equipment, PPE)

I stand (maybe alone) by my convictions - the National medal should be earned, not a medal for every bugga like the volunteer medal was!

Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: fire03rescue on October 18, 2006, 09:56:54 AM
I agree with you OZ Fire
we had a ff in the brigade that put in 100% for 13 years and had to leave because of work commitments and the other ff had completed 15 years but went missing for a lot of the time and did bugger all.
so why should the second ff get the National medal
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: Pipster on October 18, 2006, 10:32:39 AM
The National Medal is not a service medal - eg you don't get it just because you have been a member for 15 years.  It is a diligent service medal - to be eligible, you need to do a bit more than just turn up occasionally.

The process for nominating a person is not an onerous task - relevant paperwork available from your Regional Office.   :-)

Pip
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: CaptCom on October 18, 2006, 10:47:12 AM
It's all in hand..process under way..

I agree with the diligent part...we have had plenty on our books that have done nothing...they would never qualify..
Title: Re: Chevrons question
Post by: bajdas on October 18, 2006, 12:33:26 PM
Sorry still disagree with the automatic after 15 years!

What world are you people living in?????

CFS once stated 18500 fire fighters - with a guess of about 10000 active - that equates to 21 active members per brigade - what a load of steaming cow poo!!!!

Many, many brigades have people on their books, as active who they would be lucky to see once a year - why do these people deserve a national medal - they don't, they haven't displayed diligent service, they haven't provided back to the community when the comunity has put in ($$$ for training, equipment, PPE)

I stand (maybe alone) by my convictions - the National medal should be earned, not a medal for every bugga like the volunteer medal was!


Agreed. But if the person qualifies (time, diligence, etc) then the administration officer should automatically notify the hierarchy (brigade/unit, region or SHQ) and begin the process if approved.

I have just been through the process which was painful. My membership started 1979. I have moved between Units during my time and taken a few years off when I lived interstate. Because of the time span I had to go back to individual Units records which were not stored very well. Thus it took from July to September before verification of volunteer membership could be completed.

I understand that membership records are now kept at SHQ which eases the process, so in future it will be easier.