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General Discussion => SAMFS => Topic started by: Scania_1 on March 12, 2006, 05:57:26 AM

Title: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Scania_1 on March 12, 2006, 05:57:26 AM
some pics
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Scania_1 on March 12, 2006, 05:59:09 AM
more
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: fire03rescue on March 12, 2006, 06:37:09 AM
nice helmet in the first photo, they ff with the hose
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 12, 2006, 10:12:52 AM
Is this the same area the fire was in last month???
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: fireygal on March 12, 2006, 10:41:33 AM
the fire was 29/12/05
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 12, 2006, 12:41:35 PM
i seeeeeeeeeeee old pictures,
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: medevac on March 12, 2006, 01:19:38 PM
who's the bloke in the first pic getting into CFS yellows??? what the?
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 12, 2006, 06:04:16 PM
I think compton where support for this job along with moorak
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: 24P on March 12, 2006, 08:09:28 PM
who's the bloke in the first pic getting into CFS yellows??? what the?
Mutual Aid?
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: 24P on March 12, 2006, 08:54:12 PM
Who knows he may have been close by and offered his services.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: medevac on March 13, 2006, 06:36:40 AM
i know compton do change of wuarters to the mount...

but i shudnt have thought they would have actually attended...

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Who knows he may have been close by and offered his services.
i hope not... shudnt be playing silly buggers...
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Mike on March 14, 2006, 05:48:39 AM
nice helmet in the first photo, the ff with the hose

Good spot.... wonder if anyone else noticed at the time..... you'd hope so!
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 14, 2006, 08:28:27 AM
Yeah saw that, my theory is that it is mopping up and the guy getting into CFS gear is getting out of CFS gear.  :|
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Firefrog on March 14, 2006, 11:25:34 AM
It's always east to speculate on a split second in time captured in a photograph. We don't know the circumstances or what happened next. A collegue might a brought his hat over who knows.. :-D
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: probie_boy on March 14, 2006, 12:41:29 PM
i'd never go near a burning buliding without a helmet on. Are these the retaineds that they are cutting from Gambier or are these the new city boys?
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on March 14, 2006, 02:18:32 PM
The full time firies won't be happening for a while yet.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: TillerMan on March 14, 2006, 02:36:06 PM
Why is everyone so damn negative  :?

My first reaction to those photos is that is one PHAT Scania  :mrgreen:

Keep up the good work boys and work that engine.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: medevac on March 14, 2006, 06:38:29 PM
i'd never go near a burning buliding without a helmet on. Are these the retaineds that they are cutting from Gambier or are these the new city boys?

retainees arent getting cut mate, they are having a fulltime day crew added to the roster..
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: probie_boy on March 14, 2006, 07:03:01 PM
oh right. mmm nice scania.

by the way, if anyone else feels like drooling... http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/Appliance_Display.asp?Service_Code=SAMFS&Station_Code=20
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: strikeathird on March 16, 2006, 08:57:13 AM
Why is everyone so damn negative  :?

My first reaction to those photos is that is one PHAT Scania  :mrgreen:

Keep up the good work boys and work that engine.

Welllll.... S.O on the pump, driver without his helmet on the Hoseline, sum random bystander jumping into his CFS turnout gear...


Wish all the jobs ive been on went like that !!  :-D
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: oz fire on March 16, 2006, 12:09:35 PM
HA - easy to criticise - have seen many many photos of CFS, MFS, CFA, RFS etc crews not is appropriate PPE - from memory CFS even produced a heap of posters years ago where crews weren't in the correct PPE! Need to look in our own backyard and clean that up first!

As for the screw using the pump - what a good thing, was probally having a pump lesson from the firie :roll:
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: strikeathird on March 16, 2006, 12:43:34 PM
"Innnnn...Let....  Hmmmm... ?"



hehehe..


Yea, no one is perfect... Wonder if his arrival message was .. "Water on "

 :-D
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: oz fire on March 16, 2006, 03:04:40 PM
lol  :-D
Mmmm might have been k ....... something
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 16, 2006, 06:17:55 PM
Why is everyone so damn negative  :?

My first reaction to those photos is that is one PHAT Scania  :mrgreen:

Keep up the good work boys and work that engine.

Welllll.... S.O on the pump, driver without his helmet on the Hoseline, sum random bystander jumping into his CFS turnout gear...


Wish all the jobs ive been on went like that !!  :-D

I'd say the S.O was the chauffer that day so he got driver/pump duties, nothing wrong with that.  Good to see superiors are willing to take all  jobs.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: strikeathird on March 16, 2006, 06:36:16 PM
Um no.. he wasn't the "Chauffer"  that day..


Its not like the CFS where the Captain goes " I wanna drive " and puts a F/F in the OIC seat while he gets his fix of red and blue lights !
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: probie_boy on March 16, 2006, 06:37:38 PM
i've just spent the last 10 minutes trying to work out what S.O. stood for. It finally just clicked. good observation that its the driver on the hoseline too!
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 16, 2006, 06:52:31 PM
Oh yeah, just noticed the helmet in front of the steering wheel.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 16, 2006, 06:55:24 PM
Actually, If S.O was the pump op. shouldnt he be on the other side so he and the crew can see each other.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: strikeathird on March 16, 2006, 06:58:48 PM
No controls on the other side PF..


And yea, S.O.  - Station Officer..  :-)
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 16, 2006, 07:02:10 PM
(http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/photos/samfs-20-202.jpg)
(http://www.fire-brigade.asn.au/photos/samfs-20-201.jpg)

Are they just outlets?

If thats the case then Mt Gambier (maybe we should just blame the driver for all the mistakes :-P) have loads of cock-ups from just one photo.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: strikeathird on March 16, 2006, 07:05:35 PM
Yep...  Dont believe there are pump panel controls on the RH side..
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: medevac on March 16, 2006, 07:21:06 PM
outlets and inlets on both side, however pump control would only be on the passenger side of the vehicle, standard on all appliances.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: probie_boy on March 16, 2006, 07:26:39 PM
ha, someones been on my link. hard to believe that one photo has so many wrong/odd things happening!

whoo! 100th post baby, now i'm in the big leagues!
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 17, 2006, 07:07:05 AM
Hey we can all pick the faults in those photos but have you ever had a close look at some CFS photos and just see what people are wearing (not)????
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: medevac on March 17, 2006, 07:16:48 AM
Hey we can all pick the faults in those photos but have you ever had a close look at some CFS photos and just see what people are wearing (not)????
we all know there are mingers in both services... its just fun to pick faults...
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: strikeathird on March 17, 2006, 07:54:29 AM
yeeees blinky... have noticed many a faults in both CFS and MFS photos..!
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: oz fire on March 17, 2006, 08:31:27 AM
at the end of the day we all do a professional job - regardless of pay, just unfortunately here and there some ..... with a camera takes photos of our omissions and challenges :-D
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: probie_boy on March 17, 2006, 08:43:05 AM
hahaha, damn them all!
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: medevac on March 17, 2006, 09:00:37 AM
i always like the pictures of group officers just wandering around with jacket and helmet... no turnout pants, and officers with wither no jacket or jacket unzipped are pretty common.... mind you officers arent the only offenders, but def. the ones who should know better and set an example.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: strikeathird on March 17, 2006, 10:23:23 AM
ha.. like the officers who get to the scene, jump out, first zip up their boots, get their jacket on, helmet, then get the radio...


lol.. Seen that MANY a times..


 :evil:
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 17, 2006, 12:15:38 PM
I did hear a story not so long ago about a brigade that where at a shed fire,regional officer turned up and asked that the pump person be removed from the fire ground as she had pink slippers on.........  :lol:
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: probie_boy on March 17, 2006, 12:33:26 PM
haha, wheres a camera when you need one? oh i know where, taking photos of the rest of us screwing up!
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: medevac on March 17, 2006, 12:52:38 PM
hmmm well i had my boots taken away from me at a job once...
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 18, 2006, 05:49:13 AM
who knows??? they're a bit different down south! (strums banjo accordingly)

Probie boy how can you say we down south are different and strum banjos???? if we where to look at your name does that refelct your enjoyment of probe.....sure we do things different so do you guys.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: F.B.R.T on March 18, 2006, 02:19:56 PM
Surprising the judgements that can be made by one photo! :-(

Well, here are some facts from someone there at this fire.

The moment before this shot was taken, the firefighter without the helmet had his pump setup and supplied with mains water.
He was then asked to run the line he is on, and put water on the job for a short period before being relieved by another firefighter.
Some pump operators don't wear helmets at the pump, but he should of used one where he was at the time - lesson learned on his behalf!

The "screw" or Station Officer made a quick adjustment to throttle whilst passing the pump.(The particular S/O in the picture has been in the job 46 years so yes, he does know how to use it!)

The CFS member in the picture was one of a few who were either in the cafe or cinema when the fire broke out and volunteered their services and were gratefully accepted. (we had 9 personnel and 2 appliances in attendance)

The end result was that a historic, stone and timber (a lot of timber)
building valued at $1.5 million + was saved with only around $15-20,000 damage occurring. :-)

So I would say that this was a good save, and job well done by the MFS and CFS guys in attendance and like every job, you always have a debrief and discuss what you could improve on next time.
(after all, were not all perfect!)

Regards, Mat
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on March 18, 2006, 02:27:21 PM
It's always good when you have a good save.... Well done.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on March 18, 2006, 02:38:56 PM
Sorry about off topic here but what is a ROSA pump, just curious because Berri MFS requested one from Renmark for a sinking houseboat???
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 18, 2006, 03:20:31 PM
These are the mfs 14 units(regional operations support appliances) I think that is what they stand for nice looking unit with a very big pump on it..
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 18, 2006, 05:44:03 PM
Curious as to why the appliance is parked the way it is, shouldnt it be facing the other way so the pump controls and the pump operator can be seen by the nozzle-man
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Firefrog on March 18, 2006, 07:20:58 PM
Nope.. The direction of travel from the station probably had them arrive this way. It would take too long to get to work if you messed around doing a U-turn in a busy street.

This is the reason outlets are available from the drivers side.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 18, 2006, 07:50:16 PM
yeah, but it would be a bit easier, still I guess they got radio's and every second counts.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: F.B.R.T on March 18, 2006, 07:55:35 PM
Regarding the appliance placement, it is always a bonus if you can park in the fend-off position (ie. passenger side bumper to kerb and 45 degree angle to kerb.)which then has main pump panel to kerb, but as explained in other posting's today, depending on the direction your travelling from when responding to the incident, it is impractical to do u-turns to achieve this.

Cheers, Mat
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 18, 2006, 08:07:20 PM
What about going around the block so you can face the right way, might not work in all places, but if it does it really is easier.

Doing a u'ey in a busy street shouldnt be a problem with the lights and sirens, cars stop for ya, but a big truck would ahve mobility issues.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: 24P on March 18, 2006, 09:25:33 PM
Sorry about off topic here but what is a ROSA pump, just curious because Berri MFS requested one from Renmark for a sinking houseboat???
MFS Rosa
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 19, 2006, 05:39:52 AM
PF, mate you still have  alot to learn we do know how to place an appliance at the scene down here, there is never time to just drive around the block so as the pump is facing the right way.. It gets back to the pump person and hoseman knowing what they are doing and using radio's or hand signals.. the guys did a excellent job a nd a very good safe..........
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 19, 2006, 08:43:14 AM
Yeah I know, wasnt having a go at Gambier for placing their appliance like that, just an observation and curious as to how appliances are placed.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: 24P on March 19, 2006, 09:18:15 AM


Doing a u'ey in a busy street shouldnt be a problem with the lights and sirens, cars stop for ya, but a big truck would ahve mobility issues.
Have you ever tried it?
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: F.B.R.T on March 19, 2006, 10:49:05 AM
I'd only ever give it a go in  the ROSA!!! :-)
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: PF_ on March 19, 2006, 11:17:49 AM


Doing a u'ey in a busy street shouldnt be a problem with the lights and sirens, cars stop for ya, but a big truck would ahve mobility issues.
Have you ever tried it?

No, dont have my MR licence, only get my P's on Thursday :-)

I have driven a 30 year old Acco stock vehicle truck on my grandads farm down at Keith, that was fun and did a U turn in that.
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Camo on March 19, 2006, 12:50:58 PM
I'd only ever give it a go in  the ROSA!!! :-)

ROSA or Tonka Toy Matt?

Cameron
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: F.B.R.T on March 19, 2006, 01:38:26 PM
I think either would do the job Camo!! :-)
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on March 19, 2006, 02:24:27 PM
We were told by a member of our group at an MVA once that our vehicle was parked wrong (It was in perfect fend off position)and when asked why it was wrong he said "the rescue eqipment is on the wrong side" unfortunately to get it on the right side would have taken at least 2 minutes and a 20 point turn, personally if i'm trapped in a car or building or whatever and saw a truck doing that i'd freak.

But my soution to this problem is that trucks are built bigger and with a set of BA sets on each side, and rescue equipment on each side than problem solved. :lol: :-o :lol:
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: probie_boy on March 20, 2006, 08:03:19 AM
hey everyone,
apologies if i offended anyone regarding my comments about mt gambier. i was simply joking and meant nothing by it. i actually know people that used to be in the service down there so i know down south are good. apologies once again

your lowly probie boy
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: F.B.R.T on March 20, 2006, 12:23:10 PM
All is well, were pretty thick skinned down here Probie Boy!
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: oz fire on March 20, 2006, 02:22:28 PM
lol - problem is cant escape with much here, without someone from some where reading it and taking it to heart ...... mmm the joys of life
Title: Re: Cafe Fire Mt Gambier
Post by: rescue5271 on March 20, 2006, 05:03:51 PM
SUCH IS LIFE :mrgreen: