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Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 04, 2008, 01:54:43 PM
11:09:09   04-03-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC031 04/03/08 11:08,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,HEYSEN TUNNEL,ADELAIDE-CRAFERS HWY,TUNNELS MAP 132 E 16 TG182,UP TRACK PASSED TUNNEL EXIT,BURN19 STRL19 WDV243 ALDG00

The madness and stupidity continues!
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: CFS_Firey on March 04, 2008, 01:59:21 PM
BURN19 STRL19 WDV243 ALDG00

The madness and stupidity continues!

Couldn't agree more numbers, it's unacceptable that a tanker and air support weren't sent with the initial dispatch.  No doubt a letter of complaint has already been drafted.
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: tlateott on March 04, 2008, 02:47:22 PM
11:09:09   04-03-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC031 04/03/08 11:08,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,HEYSEN TUNNEL,ADELAIDE-CRAFERS HWY,TUNNELS MAP 132 E 16 TG182,UP TRACK PASSED TUNNEL EXIT,BURN19 STRL19 WDV243 ALDG00

The madness and stupidity continues!

Hmm, and all for a little steam
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 04, 2008, 03:10:30 PM
Couldn't agree more numbers, it's unacceptable that a tanker and air support weren't sent with the initial dispatch.  No doubt a letter of complaint has already been drafted.

I was just stunned that there was only two rescue resources and one aerial turned out. Where are the Strike Teams when you need them? Move over Gumeracha, here comes the SE Freeway.
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: uniden on March 04, 2008, 03:14:43 PM
What was the problem with that page? Other than probably the Aldgate appliance? Obviously Woodville were COQ at Glen Osmond, then Stirling from the top and Birnside from the bottom.
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 04, 2008, 03:19:19 PM
Just the silliness of the Aldgate and the Burnside appliances...

I can understand dual response in some areas where its only CFS brigades going, but when 10/14 SAMFS are involved is it really that necessary?
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: RescueHazmat on March 04, 2008, 05:48:56 PM
What was the problem with that page?

There was probably an alarm call somewhere with only a 14 attending..
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 04, 2008, 06:00:16 PM
There was probably an alarm call somewhere with only a 14 attending..

Not only that, quite clearly the over resourcing of this incident left 58,000 (approx) people without the cover of a pumping appliance. It is just unacceptable. I am going to put forth a motion that all houses have pumping appliance stationed in the garage at all times.
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: mack on March 04, 2008, 06:10:22 PM
Just the silliness of the Aldgate and the Burnside appliances...

I can understand dual response in some areas where its only CFS brigades going, but when 10/14 SAMFS are involved is it really that necessary?

hey... well since theres an MFS appliance attending from a perm station... why bother sending CFS at all really ;)

Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 04, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
hey... well since theres an MFS appliance attending from a perm station... why bother sending CFS at all really ;)

Now that you mention it...
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: Gilly on March 05, 2008, 10:03:29 AM
Just the silliness of the Aldgate and the Burnside appliances...

 Seeing as it was the up-track, then wouldn't burnside be more approapriate than stirling???
Aldgate was sent as Burnside was tied up at the leabrook fire. Woodville was at glen osmond.
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 05, 2008, 04:47:28 PM
Keep fighting for that response area gilly :P

Any job on the uptrack is no doubt going to have the MFS appliance from 44 there first thats a given. Then either Burnside or Stirling in next. It sort of comes down to anything on the uptrack below the tunnels Stirling don't need to worry about, and anything above the tunnels Burnside don't need to worry about. Vice versa for the down track.

It wasn't meant to turn into a full blown discussion, I was just questioning the usual screwed up EMA response of 4 appliances for a Vehicle Fire...
Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 24pumper on March 05, 2008, 08:48:33 PM
 Better more than having a going fire and no one turn up!

Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: Pipster on March 05, 2008, 09:57:16 PM
But the info in BOMS is still a problem...a few weeks ago, five brigades were responded to a smouldering stump in an area burnt earlier in the morning (started from arcing wires I believe).    The same day, one rural brigade, with no BA, was responded to a report of a fire in the ceiling of a building used as a camp for school kids etc.....no other brigades were responded initially. (It was several minutes later before any further brigades were responded).

I would hope that an issue form was lodged....

Pip

Title: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 06, 2008, 09:00:36 AM
Better more than having a going fire and no one turn up!

Because that vehicle fire is no doubt the end of the world ;)
Title: Re: Over responding to minor incidents
Post by: 6739264 on March 06, 2008, 09:41:49 AM
Thanks for making me look stupid now Mr. Moderators.

Before the Cut and shut job happened, the discussion was meant to happen over here --> http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php/topic,1679.0.html