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General Discussion => Incident Operations => Topic started by: bajdas on June 15, 2006, 11:28:10 AM

Title: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: bajdas on June 15, 2006, 11:28:10 AM: From the GRN pager website, I noticed that quite a few CFS and SES were called-out last night or this morning to 'internal house flooding from the ceiling' in the Adelaide Hills.

Is this the cold freezing waterpipes ?
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: probie_boy on June 15, 2006, 12:27:59 PM: i have no idea. we weren't called out to any luckily though. I wouldn't want to be dealing with water on such a cold night.
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: bajdas on June 15, 2006, 01:04:53 PM: For example:

11:50:37 15-06-06 SHQ: CFSRES:NURIOOTPA RESPOND SALVAGE SHEETING REQUIRED 27 & 29 DRINKWATER TCE, NURIOOTPA - DUE TO BURST PIPES - REFER ANGASTON DG1. < 15/06/2006 11:50:23

12:04:28 15-06-06 Nuri 24P and Ang Logs 1 at No 12, 27, 29 Drinkwater Cresa Nuri all with ceiling collapse, water in light fittings and salvage required CFS - Angaston Group Officer T
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: strikeathird on June 15, 2006, 01:09:07 PM: Could be a specific water pressure problem for that zone.

Example, problem has caused the street pressure to hammer / rise beyond normal limits causing bursting....

A few years ago we experienced this, 5 houses in my streets all had the pipes burst, was caused by a pressure problem somewhere...

Failing that........ No idea !
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: bajdas on June 15, 2006, 01:22:26 PM: Below are the other callouts I have found on the paging website:

12:32:33 15-06-06 MFS: RESPOND To 15/06/06 12:30,53 ALEXANDRINA RD,MT BARKER, MAP 172 N 10 ,,1/53 UNIT WATER IN METER BOX, ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS,1279*CFSRES:

10:31:41 15-06-06 SHQ: CFSRES: MT PLEASANT RESPOND FLOODING 166 MELROSE ST, MT PLEASANT <

10:30:24 15-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: MINLATON RESPOND FLOODING, 63 MAITLAND RD MINLATON. BURST PIPE INSIDE HOUSE... > 15/06/2006 10:30:09 CFS - Southern Yourke Group

10:21:58 15-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: WOODSIDE RESPOND FLOODING IN HOUSE, 21 NAIRNE RD, WOODSIDE. >

09:56:42 15-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: NURIOOTPA RESPOND FLOODING AND ROOF COLLAPSE, 20 THE CRESENT, NURIOOTPA... >

09:33:05 15-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: LOBETHAL RESPOND FLOODING, OPPOSITE MT TORRENS CFS STATION. SALVAGE APPLIANCE REQUIRED. ASSIST MT TORRENS.. >

09:18:11 15-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: MT TORRENS RESPOND FLOODING, OPPOSITE CFS STATION. FLOODING INSIDE HOUSE... >

20:39:54 14-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Flooding/Salvage 14/06/06 20:37,10 HEINRICH CT,MT BARKER, MAP 173 E 12 ,,BURST PIPE IN ROOF OCCUPANTS CONTACT NUMBER IS ,72120*CFSRES:

21:48:24 14-06-06 MFS: TTG SES CAPTAIN PLEASE CONTACT CUDLEE CREEK CFS CAPTAIN ON GRN 098

20:31:19 14-06-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: CUDLEE CREEK RESPOND FLOODING RETREAT VALLEY ROAD 150M UP FROM GORGE ROAD FIRST DRIVEWAY ON LHS FROM GORGE ROAD < 14/06/2006 20:31:07

19:20:54 14-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Flooding/Salvage 14/06/06 19:17,BLAKISTON RD,LITTLEHAMPTON, MAP 161 D 3 ,,LAUNDRY CEILING COLLAPSED - LAST HOUSE ON LEFT BEFORE RAIL STATION - RAPID 064210 - WHITE PICKET FENCE - LOT2,1268 72120*CFSRES:
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: strikeathird on June 15, 2006, 01:25:08 PM: Yea, no idea mate..

some wierd phenomenon...
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: bajdas on June 15, 2006, 01:38:47 PM: and another....
This is strange :?

12:53:20 15-06-06 MFS: RESPOND To 15/06/06 12:51,62 RAY ORR DR,MT BARKER, MAP 172 J 10 ,,1/62 WATER IN BACK BEDROOM. PIPES BURST,1279 72120*CFSRES:
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: bajdas on June 15, 2006, 03:12:14 PM: 14:35:09 15-06-06 15/06/06 14:37:25 Mt. Pleasant sitrep water heater in roof leaking , ceiling collapsing crew has removed all furniture from bedroom from Barry
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: backburn on June 15, 2006, 03:20:49 PM: Normally its from the hot water system but they put on a release valve on them which should help the problem. We normally get -5 and that caused a few solar panel's and water heaters to burst. cold nights still to come.
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: ltdan on June 15, 2006, 03:28:43 PM: it is from the extreme coldness. As water gets cold the pipe physical properties change, therefore two things can happen.
1: Cracking of pipes from temperature as the water expands. The pipe expands.( example watch water when it freezes.
2. If hot water is turn on cracking can also occur as temp change is too quick.

This usually only occurs in older houses due to the the life span of the water piping, and the grade of water piping used now is a lot better than years ago.

Hope this answers your questions.
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: probie_boy on June 15, 2006, 03:36:33 PM: hmm note to self: change hot water system
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: Mike on June 19, 2006, 09:08:34 AM: Water freezing in pipes causes a huge number of problems (seen some photos of a house in canada). Seeing as its colder now..... etc etc
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: strikeathird on June 19, 2006, 07:03:24 PM: Bit like... If you fill the sink with boiling hot water... Hold a glass under there for 20 seconds.. pull it out and pour water in it from the fridge........ It smashed into about 30 million pieces and you spill water all over the floor...

:D

Same theory..
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: medevac on June 19, 2006, 08:46:42 PM: or, you could put an egg in the microwave for 30 seconds... and then spend the next half hour helping your aunt clean fried egg goo off the ceiling...

similar theory. :wink:
Title: Re: Internal water pipes bursting in Adel Hills
Post by: rescue5271 on June 20, 2006, 07:56:53 AM: Does a good job on fire sprinklers in large shopping centres just think of all that water being pumped into the place till the brigade arrives....