SA Firefighter
Equipment => All Equipment discussion => Topic started by: Doug on October 24, 2006, 03:25:11 PM
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I heard a romour on the radio this morning about CFS trucks not functioning properly and they had alot of problems. are these the new 34s?. i think heard the guy say Mclaren Flat had alot of troubles with theres and had been mentioned in the newspaper.
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This has been discussed elsewhere in this forum. I understand old 34's and very limited problem.
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This has been discussed elsewhere in this forum. I understand old 34's and very limited problem.
Its to do with the weight over the front axle, and by mounting the pump on the rear of the appliance, puts the truck 650kg light on the front causing no traction when in 4WD on the front axle when negotiating steep inclines :-D
This has caused the appliances to raise off the ground therefore creating an unsafe situation for crews :wink:
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Would a mid-mounted pump fix that? (Or rather, what would fix that?)
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Remove the crew deck or shift it to the back and put the water tank right against the cab?
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As far as i am concerned this whole thing has been blown out the water and a few people need their butts kicked and as said i think this is in another section.
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Maybe if we printed all the forums this discussion has occured in, we could use the paper weight.... to fix the problem :evil:
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Trucks don't drive like cars.
The trucks manufactured meet the spec.
600 KG on the front axle will put it over the manufactures weight specifications. (full of people, full of water, full of stowage)
You can not put the tank any further forward as it will not meet spec for weight distribution.
The answer may be use a more suitable cab chassis than the Isuzu type.
Spec trucks more suitable to doing the job.
Be more realistic about what is to be carried on one truck, where it is to go and the task it is to perform.
A fundamental problem exists between the weight carring requirement, weight carry capacity, weight distribution requirements and axle loading. The government also dictates what may be carride per axle. It is a complex compromise to achieve the balance.
Andrew
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McLaren Flat has got there 34 back and they stuck 300kg of lead in the front of it to fix the problem :wink:
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did 300 kg fix the problem? R they happy now?
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Dont know if they are happy but the crew I spoke to the other day didnt mention anything bad about it now its back
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McLaren Flat has got there 34 back and they stuck 300kg of lead in the front of it to fix the problem :wink:
if true, that's absurd. so now they cart around a useless extra 300kg? how's the performance?
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Andrew werent you saying that they were pretty much maxed out already on the front axle? and now they have just slapped another 300kg on the front?
What exactly were the complaints?
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It didn't handle like a car......
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Thats funny as its not a CAR......
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It didn't handle like a car......
Strange that... An appliance that doesn't handle like something tonnes lighter with the wheels in a different spot...
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Those 34's aren't the best handling of vehicles they bounce alot jump all over the road but all it takes is for people to adjust their driving style to suit the truck not adjust the truck to suit the driver.... if you can't do that then you don't deserve to have a lisence.