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SA Firefighter General / Re: Private Assistance
« on: July 20, 2008, 07:30:41 PM »
Great thread! Just remember to play the ball not the person. In other words debate the issue, do not attack people...Thanks

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Country Fire Service / Re: Fire Trucks/Appliances
« on: July 20, 2008, 07:25:47 PM »
Bill... you need to realise we use most practise the US does... all the fire servicing and maintenance and install is copied off US. All fire truck Pumps are copies of US systems... all rescue strategy are copied off US

With the name private contractor and saying im not in service 6 times you might get the idea im not... funny about that ey.

I don't have BFF or MFS or Service training cause for the majoirty of the stuff i do and the company i work for does... those same practises will leave someone dead...

I have conducted rescues above 100m... pratice and for real. Am BA qualified instructor, hazmat qualified, confined space qualified, EMS vehicle qualified through transport sa, transport NSW, transport QLD.

I have done a cadetship in training... cert 4. Work for RTO. I have been doing this stuff since i was in my late teens.

I have been taught by ex sas, ex star, and ex MFS training officers. I am fully trained in the use of pumper, tanker, brushtruck and arials.

I will aknowledge i don't know filtered all about wildifre, CRC, chainsaw use but i have been working with fire engineers for 15years and they have taught me structural fire fighting to same if not above MFS...

Hope that enough for you mate.

Not knowing much of your background  :-) it is clear you are not familiar with Aus fire services. Most of our strategies and tactics have nothing in common with the US way of doing things at all, not even close. If I am forced to make a comparison we are much more like European fire services.

It is interesting to me that you are claiming vast experience and ability to train people better than fire services, but if you have not worked in fire services how would you know? Not an attack a genuine question.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Private Assistance
« on: July 19, 2008, 10:43:40 PM »
Lot's of variables in this question.

While I don't think we have a need for a vertical rescue contractor as the state currently has the skills, there are certainly times when special skills are needed.

Companies that offer special skills or equipment can be called upon in times of need eg think of bulldozer operators, Airport Fire going to fuel tankers or service stations fires etc. etc.

If the need arises and the skills/equipment is available I don't see too any issues.

If we needed vertical rescue specialists there is one company I can think of that is so well trained internationally it boggles the mind! The state is well placed with best of the best expertise in vertical rescue.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Fire Trucks/Appliances
« on: July 19, 2008, 05:32:06 PM »
People are allowed to share what they do and where they do it. The only stipulation is that people are not here for the purpose of soliciting for business purposes.

So you can talk about the stuff you do SAPC. It's so fine!!!!! 8-)

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Country Fire Service / Re: Fire Trucks/Appliances
« on: July 19, 2008, 02:56:20 PM »
I have had a chat and there is no intent to advertise....Carry on with the great discussion!

It raises some interesting thoughts!

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Country Fire Service / Re: Fire Trucks/Appliances
« on: July 19, 2008, 02:13:18 PM »
Perhaps there are some wondering if you may be disguising your intent to advertise by generating discussion. If you wish to advertise PM me.

If you wish to discuss interesting topics with excellent people then carry on, just be assured we are watching....

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if you want to know some thing ask your captain and follow the chain of command that is what it is there for, the system wont work properly if you dont follow the chain of command. And as usual the people that want to email the cheif cause of some bull filtered issue in their brigade or group are the biggest problem. USe the chain and see how well it acctually works

Chain of Command is for running incidents! Not running services. The sooner people realise that staff are there to serve the volunteer the better!

People should feel empowered to seek advice and information from a range of levels within the system. That maybe a senior firey or a captain or a staff member. Why is it so hard for CFS to communicate effectively?

These days everyone has an email address or is mates with someone who does - a novel idea send information direct to people. Surely information should not be locked in a command structure that is designed for incidents! People abuse information and use it as power or currency to be traded around. The way I see it take information flow out of the chain of command and direct to the consumer is both more efficient and a healthy way to go!

End Rant.....

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Burnside Pumper
« on: July 11, 2008, 04:29:05 PM »
Yeah, its good for them, but what about the rest that don't have huge bank accounts....what ever happened to everyone being equal now, isn't this a typical example of the old days pre-ESL where we have those with bucket loads of money getting top of the range gear, and those without getting the basic "what can be afforded" truck and some of us have to push you know what up hill to get even that !

I just find it outrageous that CFS allows brigades like Mt Barker, Millicent,Nuriootpa, Morphett Vale etc to get around in the bare basics, and less and then agree's to this very well specced pumper to be built for Burnside-----who essentially have nothing to speak of in their very small area, remember we can't use the MFS back up arguement, those of us that have worked on SFEC upgrades know full well about that !!

I am not having a go at Burnside at all, all the power to them for convincing the CFS to allow this, I just hope that this is not a once off, but for that kind of money, thats going to be the last and only one we see. Its not for lack of trying from some other brigades, but how the filtered are we supposed to bargain when we don't have money to bargain with.  If CFS offers you a Type 2 what are you suppose to say "no thanks, we don't want one, we are going to hold out for something better" again, if you have no money and the risk to need a pumper what are you suppose to do.

Ps: I am sorry if I offend anyone, but thats how I feel.


What would be achieved by refusing Burnside. I hate the all should be equal philosophy. If they have done the hard yards to afford something that benefits the community I am all for it. The fact that they have little in their own area is a mute argument. Look at what they actually respond to and the immediate risks in the hills above. It's may prove to be an ideal appliance to support other brigades. These days a brigades own area is becoming less important with the closest most appropriate resources going.....(but that's another story.. :wink:

Progress is progress the state needs brigades to show leadership and demonstrate what can be achieved. Good on them!

I hope Burnside people will post pics here when they can!!!!


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All Equipment discussion / Re: Cleaning of Appliances
« on: July 08, 2008, 06:08:27 PM »
Do not use Foam it has health and safety risks!!!!!!! Not to mention if corrodes big time!

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Country Fire Service / Re: CFS STC
« on: July 01, 2008, 08:45:20 AM »
Ridiculous! There was nothing in that video that portrayed the service in a poor light. Who told you to remove it?

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Fire Fighter Training / Re: CFS Courses
« on: June 26, 2008, 12:27:39 PM »
Was talking to a DGO down south and they have been waiting well over 2 years for PBI gold,so why not give them level 3 nomax?? If lion can't keep up then CFS need to do something as brigade's are  going to working fire's and wearing level one gear with CABA and before you start jumping up and down about level one gear we used to do it for years......

I have said it before it is not Lion.....That cause these delays!!!! They can meet almost any demand. Look else where for someone to blame. :roll: Like the agencies

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire 000
« on: June 22, 2008, 11:20:06 AM »
I thought introducting oxygen to an oxygen starved fire was called a backdraft, not a flashover...?

to be technically correct introducing oxygen could cause either phenomenon to occur. All depends on the conditions in the room/structure.

I am shocked at the lack of BA use for car fires!!!

To be technically correct, if there is limited ventilation and hence a lack of oxygen - the introduction of oxygen causes a sudden deflagration, thats a backdraught.

You can introduce as much oxygen as you want to a room, but until the room and its contents are heated sufficiently, and there is an ignition point for the released pyrolysis gases, it ain't flashing.

6739264 but you are only partly correct.  8-)

If an increase in oxygen causes a sudden event such as blow torching from openings then that is likely to be a back draught. A back draught is only likely to occur in a room where there is a lot of heat and the room is rich in fuel, most probably above the UFL.

By definition a flash over is the point at which a growing fire transitions and becomes a fully involved fire (that could be a very fast and violent event but not a back draught. So in the absence of sufficient heat in an oxygen starved fire a back draught may not occur, however the overall increase in fire behaviour due to more air may infact cause the fire to become rapidly fully involved by flashing over especially if the room is already rich in fuel.

But that's off topic, still would not put out a car fire without BA. Too many firies are dying of cancer. The national UFU are having a campaign right now about awareness of workplace exposure to all sorts of nasties.

Only need one fire fighter to Don up and only takes 30 - 50 seconds to do.

Play safe I say!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire 000
« on: June 19, 2008, 10:00:21 AM »
I thought introducting oxygen to an oxygen starved fire was called a backdraft, not a flashover...?

to be technically correct introducing oxygen could cause either phenomenon to occur. All depends on the conditions in the room/structure.

I am shocked at the lack of BA use for car fires!!!

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Country Fire Service / Re: posting on youtube
« on: June 03, 2008, 10:23:23 AM »
I would think a volunteer service would welcome free marketing, especially a medium as powerful as the net and You tube.

If a volunteer fire service is going to be attractive to Younger people perhaps more you tube videos is needed.

Just a thought..... 8-)

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SA Firefighter General / Fire Rescue Related Video Links
« on: May 23, 2008, 03:18:10 PM »
This thread is for posting video links related to fire rescue etc etc. Try to keep the discussion on videos to a minimum. Best bet is to start a new thread to discuss a video. That way this thread may be a fun and useful link reference.

Thanks

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Forum Suggestions / Re: videos
« on: May 23, 2008, 03:15:31 PM »
how about a section to post fire video links??

I'll start a thread and you can post video links in there.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Farewell decent discussion.
« on: April 26, 2008, 10:25:57 PM »
Don't prove me wrong! Though. :-P :wink:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Farewell decent discussion.
« on: April 25, 2008, 10:47:59 AM »
VTIC

 :-D :-D So now I know the reason why the site has seemed calmer and more reasonable. Numbers was away!

Note to self Ban Numbers....Oh wait he doesn't deserve it...... 8-) :-D :-D :-D

 :wink: :wink: :wink:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Burn the Mouse Competition
« on: April 23, 2008, 11:39:30 AM »
Fire Safety Solutions has kindly come on board as a sponsor. And to run some cool competitions, with surprisingly nice prizes. Wish I could have entered  :-)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Burn the Mouse Competition - Winners
« on: April 22, 2008, 09:27:17 PM »
We have three Winners!

Well done to the those who delved into the Fire Safety Solutions Web site and found five Burn the Mouse Logos.

A huge thanks to Fire Safety Solutions! Check out their site now www.firesafetysolutions.com.au

They have a great range of Fire, Rescue, Medical and associated products.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Burn the Mouse Competition
« on: April 20, 2008, 09:50:47 AM »
Reminder  - Competition opens 10am Monday 21st

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Raggy
« on: April 16, 2008, 10:19:39 PM »
Yep - saw that ad several times in the last few days....Starts Monday.

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SAMFS / Re: Beulah Park
« on: April 16, 2008, 09:36:06 AM »
Although I do like the idea of a station manned with nothing but recruits.  :mrgreen:

Be a motivated by the book station :-P :-D :-D :-D :wink:

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Bunker Boots
« on: April 14, 2008, 07:57:30 PM »
SAMFS wear Haix, SAMFS is part of safecom like SACFS, so would there be an argument supporting the wearing of Haix?

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