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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: December 02, 2005, 08:18:02 AM »
They are alot taller than the old 34's, maybe Andrew from moores can tell us the dimensions.

I am unsure of it's exact dimensions apart from the fact it's 7 metres long, but it is taller than our 2000 model 24p by about 6 inches witout the lights on top and probably about 8 inches with the lights up there, but that is a guess only. It's definitely got more room between the front wheel and the guard, but we will see if the springs sag like on earlier trucks it may settle down to be the same height as the old Isuzu's  :lol:

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: November 27, 2005, 02:25:14 PM »
We were instructed that it wasn't neccessary to startup or wind down, but the way the trucks are driven (usually flat out when cold) anything that could prolong the life of a turbo because you blow one of them and you'll blow your budget just fixing it, but it's up to the brigade whether you do or don't i suppose. :|

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: November 26, 2005, 09:26:36 PM »
Thanks it looks like we will get the first driver in the door to start it up and let it idle while we all get ready then. We just first need to receve the truck.


That usually helps doesn't it :-P  :lol:. Just watch that turbo when it kicks in there's a fair surge behind it compared to the older trucks. :wink:

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: November 26, 2005, 03:18:30 PM »
The members would like to know when we get back from a job do we have to leave the truck running for a while to cool down or wind down? for the turbo part.  :? :?

We at goolwa were told by our region TO on delivery that we didn't have to let the truck wind down but on talking with Moore's and N.E Isuzu they said it would be good to let the turbo wind down for a few minutes, and to idle the truck for a minute or two before rolling, so i guess if the first person in the door turns the truck on by the time the crew is dressed and ready the turbo would have had time to lubricate. Hope that helps!!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New 34P
« on: November 23, 2005, 05:39:37 PM »
The area that our brigade covers behind Mt Barker is one of the fastest growing areas in the state,

The area that our Brigade covers (ie: Goolwa and surrounds) is, after Mt Barker, one of the fastest growing areas of the state.

Think that's what was meant :-)

Yes sorry that wasn't clearer :oops:thats what was meant, and we only have four sets as do most brigades i would assume however three years or so ago our group under the direction of region i belive took two off of us because we had four on our 24p and two on 34. 

So how many BA sets do you have?

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New 34P
« on: November 21, 2005, 02:46:25 PM »
The area that our brigade covers behind Mt Barker is one of the fastest growing areas in the state, in the not to distant future Hindmarsh island will have more houses than Goolwa itself of which probably only half will be covered by hydrants!! We are lucky in that for half of the year our area only has a population of 6000 mainly elderly residents, however during holidays it ballons out to as many as 15-20,000, we had some of the CFS heirachy come down to asses our area and they found that we cover a substantial urban risk. What does this mean for our brigade?? In my opinion nothing! This assessment was made but nothing will be done about it. We had some people in our group trying to get our 34 changed yo a 14 unit because of the H.Island rural risk!!yet around 75% of our brigade jobs would be classed as urban!! With this "substantial urban risk" we can't even get back the two BA sets we had removed from our 34 about 3yrs ago so i don't know what it would take in our area to have 6 BA sets back in our station.

 Apologies about straying from the topic but i had to get that out :evil: :-D.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: New 34P
« on: November 20, 2005, 02:06:32 PM »
A few new 34P's at NE Isuzu almost ready for delivery. They include Belair, Athelstone, Birdwood and Crystal Brook. Must nearly be the end of this years lot.


Just curious as to what athelstone 34p with be replacing their 24p or 34?? surely if it's replacing their 24p there are a lot of other brigades out there that are busier and would put that appliance to use?? I'm not having a dig at athelstone but the CFS really needs to look at where they are sending the new appliances, brigades doing 10-20 calls p/year are given brand new 24p's (last year) while brigades with a high call rate and rescue/hazmat equipment are still going round in original 24p's (seaford) AFC 24p's (salisbury) why not give brigades like that the new appliances and give the 2nd hand ones to quiet brigades?? One reason i was told was because brigades out in the sticks had further to travel so they got new dualcabs?? surely a second hand d/cab is as good as a new one??  We weren't even  going to get a new 34 this year until a RO came to our brigade and we pointed out on our then 19yr old 34 the rust, and the fact that the pump would pack it in on a regular basis, and there are brigades out there that have got a 6-7 year old 34 that aren't very busy and are getting theirs replaced this year, Seriously it's beyond my understanding how this system is worked out :?.

   Just my view though and probably just repeating what has been said before :-).

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Incident Operations / Re: Flooding (Nov '05)
« on: November 16, 2005, 11:18:09 AM »
Yes it was pretty lucky it was a two lane highway or could have been much worse, the guys and gal from aldinga took it pretty well but i still reckon there were a couple smelly people from that truck :wink: :lol: It wasn't the smallest of tree's either it nearly covered both northbound lanes of port wakefield road. And yes the e-flares were an interesting idea however it failed miserably :-P

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Incident Operations / Re: Flooding (Nov '05)
« on: November 15, 2005, 01:46:53 PM »
Ha Ha My Work Backs Onto The Torrens Too.

Yes I Made The Long Trip Down To Two Wells Yesterday.  Good Fun Sand Bagging For Most Of The Day.

We Will See How It Goes Friday.  So Far From What I Saw Every One Has Done An Great Job.  Even The Mets Guys Were Down There Sand Bagging, Now That Was A Sight :-D The Guys In Their Blues.

Good Work Guys

Yes also made the looong trip down on Wednesday. Have to say the cement mixer was my favorite. The trip down was a hazardous but very lucky one with mundoo car2 Aldinga 24p Goolwa 34 Yank 24 and Compass A34 in convoy on Port Wakefield road a tree come down smashing the beacons and aeriel's on Mundoo car 2 and in no part some great evasive driving by the Aldinga B. 24p driver they only copped a smashed windscreen, but could have been a damned sight worse.
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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: November 02, 2005, 02:06:37 PM »
Andrew,

I know youre a busy man but do you think you could post some photos of the locker layout. There are plenty of photos of the truck but none with the lockers open.

Cheers.

TillerMan i believe there are photos of our 34 on goolwa cfs website in photos section on page 8 or 9..
 
  Andrew, much appreciated the work you guys did on our 34 last week all problems were fixed and hopefully it's the last time you guys have to see the appliance :wink:

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: November 02, 2005, 09:45:29 AM »
Just another couple of nifty things on this years 34 thatmay or may not have been on last years. The foam drum is kept in a locker with the hose and spike in through the side of the locker (much cleaner and easier to use than the spike and reservoir), if the recirc valve is turned off it's got its own "blow-off" valve so theoretically it is impossible to cook the pump, and the water level is now read by sonar :|, however any moisture in the unit causes it to fail, moores had to cover any wiring or switches up to do with this because it wasn't done properly the first time. :oops:

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: November 02, 2005, 09:19:35 AM »
When at moore's the other day they had 5 34's almost ready for delivery and four halfway through building, they are for Stirling North, Kapunda, Roseworhty, Bordertown, and Port Clinton, seems the CFS is replacing these brigades late 90's Hino 34's with the newies.  These 34's are different from the first five built this year. They now have Darley 500gpm pumps (was told they aren't as good pressure as the 250gpm waterous pumps but actually more cost effective), a revised inlet/outlet setup, and a spray system around the crew cab for burnover protection??? However i didn't see it in action so I'm unsure how it works.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: October 29, 2005, 08:55:40 AM »
Yes, when the beacons switch is turned on the limiter is overridden.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: October 28, 2005, 04:11:24 PM »
Have to agree with you on that one OMGWTF, had to return ours to Moore's yesterday for a long list of warranty work  :-( and the strath end of the strath to goolwa road makes for some white knuckle driving :-o below the speed limit let alone on a P1 drive!! An adjustment on the limiter for an extra 15-20 kph would be better than a free for all on open roads that may not be familiar to the driver!!

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: October 25, 2005, 05:30:41 PM »
Well, yes, but not fair....

The 24P we have had for just over a year now is a real goer but the limiter cutting in at 105ish is really quite painful.

Given that we often travel in excess of 20km to priority one jobs on open (110kmh) roads it would be a very, very nice trick.

Interesting someone i spoke to at Happy Valley CFS said that Clarendon's 24p had that function?? Possibly 34's only??

Maybe if you spoke to your regional maint. person or sandy patterson you could get it put on your truck, considering on a  pretty flat road they reckon 130kph isn't out of the question!

Not normally a jealous fire truck envy type person, but.....

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Incident Operations / Re: PETROL STATION FIRE
« on: October 24, 2005, 04:58:55 PM »
Nice save on the petrol stn. fire.  Could have been very nasty!

 Cheers, we estimated another 5 Min's and it would have hit A.I.T and it would have been a big one from there, i couldn't praise our two BA operators enough on their work that night. It was good for them to use their compartment FF techniques, considering they both had only done it in the last couple months. It's not very often down here we can use that because normally it's all gone by the time it gets called in. Thank God for monitored alarms !! :|

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Incident Operations / Re: PETROL STATION FIRE
« on: October 24, 2005, 11:00:24 AM »
I'm not completely sure, i think the alarm went to mfs and it then came through our alerts.  A second call came about 30 sec. before we arrived on alerts from someone on scene saying there was a fire but we already knew that.  But one other point I've had to call our fire phone before and can testify that the alerts system is a pain in the a..! if i was a member of the public i would have been pretty disgusted. But then it all comes down to training doesn't it.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: October 21, 2005, 05:04:24 PM »
David you said one went to the pump, the other went straight to the tank? I must be missing a link in the brain my next question then will be why? :? :? I thought it would be better to be able to hook up to the boosters. Could you try to explain it to me.

SA water is kicking up a stink about back flow in to the mains so the inlet has a one way valve and goes straight to the tank.  Yes the new 34 does travel a bit because anymore weight to the front and the front axle would be overloaded and you would end up with springs like the AFC 24p's. apparently that model isuzu without a back on it with seven people in the cab was near the front axle max weight.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: October 21, 2005, 04:45:31 PM »
So yeah, back to the 34, it is a nice rig, its about time C.F.S started building some practical (non plastic) appliances. Would be nice to test one of the new turbo isuzu's compared to the first non turbo isuzu's.

I assure you from the 2000 model 24p (Non Turbo) to this years 34 (Turbo) there is a lot of difference. It leaves our 24 for dead. It is limited in normal driving to 108kph but when the "Oscars" are on the limiter is off. we've had ours up to 125kph but that was on a very flat road. Speaking to a moores eng. rep the other day he believes on the freeway they should top 135kph, but thats pretty excessive for a top heavy truck like that.

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Incident Operations / Re: PETROL STATION FIRE
« on: October 20, 2005, 12:08:54 PM »
Sorry bout the caps, I'm not the most computer literate of people. Unfortunately there are only a few in our brigade that turnout to all possible calls not just the "good ones". I've been warning the brigade for six months now that 99% of the time the alarms are nothing but there Will always be that one. However a second page upgrading the situation certainly got the other members out of bed. !!!

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Incident Operations / PETROL STATION FIRE
« on: October 19, 2005, 09:04:18 PM »
GOT A GOOD OLD PRIVATE ALARM CALL AT 3AM YESTERDAY MORNIN TO THE LOCAL SERVO, BEING AN ALARM A LITTLE MORE TIME WAS TAKEN TO GET TO THE STATION BUT ON THE WAY I HAD TO PASS THE SERVO. SLOWED DOWN GOING PAST SUDDENLY REALIZED THAT THERE WAS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF SMOKE COMING FROM THE PREMISES. AT THE STATION FELLOW MEMBERS SPEED AT GETTING DRESSED QUICKLY CHANGED WHEN TOLD OF THE SMOKE. WHEN WE ARRIVED STILL NO FIRE PRESENT BUT ONE OF THE LOCAL YOKELS WITH THE KEYS OPENED THE FRONT DOORS JUST AS WE ARRIVED LUCKILY THE FIRE WASN'T MORE ADVANCE OR HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TOAST (LITTERALLY) FIRST BA CREW UNDERTOOK COMPARTMENT FF. TECHNIQUES AND CONTAINED EVERYTHING QUICKLY. WOULD HAVE BEEN A MASSIVE FIRE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE MONITORED ALARMS.

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Incident Operations / Re: Friends / relations in an incident
« on: October 19, 2005, 08:42:15 PM »
BEEN TO 3 ACCIDENTS THAT I HAVE KNOWN THE PEOPLE. THE FIRST WAS A GOOD FRIEND THAT WAS KILLED IN A HIT RUN FEW YEARS BACK THAT WAS PRETTY TOUGH, A GUY I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH AND KNEW WELL HIT A TREE AND DIED, AND HAD TO CUT THE SISTER OF ONE OF OUR MEMBERS OUT OF A CAR ONE CHRISTMAS. HOPEFULLY THEY ARE THE LAST OF THOSE I GO TO BUT AROUND HER I DOUBT IT. IN EACH CASE SPAM WAS TERRIFIC

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Country Fire Service / Re: What's a pumper?
« on: October 17, 2005, 05:37:49 PM »
Bugger we just got our new 34 delivered 2 months ago, pity we only got the 250gpm pump.  but does the job pretty good compared to what we did have.  the only boosters in our area are two out two in and our 24p has had no problem boosting that, but as for any booster bigger than that i doubt that anything other than pto driven pumpers could do it.

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Country Fire Service / Re: station numbers again
« on: October 17, 2005, 05:23:19 PM »
Howdy, first time on this site. it's interesting that mfs have the ability to page some brigades (even though some only do very few calls) and not other busier ones. my brigade did over 100 calls last year and quite a few were from mfs but diverted to our alerts.  I think that any brigade that does 80+ calls a year should be able to be responded direct by mfs. the delay in mfs diverting the call to group alerts system can be upward of 30seconds to 1minute if no one answers the phone. whats anyone else's opinion on this????

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