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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire warnings
« on: November 13, 2009, 10:49:53 AM »
Hi all, thought the new system was going to give the same message for the same threat:-

I never got that impression - I thought it was just the warning messages that were the same... (as in the Advice message, Watch and Act and Bushfire Warning messages)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire Season
« on: November 11, 2009, 10:56:05 AM »
might have to Lobby for the legislated right to be the sole seller of appliances to CFS.....surely can't be that hard can it?  :evil: :evil: :evil:

Well you can't do much worse than some of the trucks out there, and it's pretty much a licence to print money... :P

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire Season
« on: November 10, 2009, 10:52:03 PM »
oh yes and we all listen to people with no medical background about health related issues....

It's like me trying to sell you lot a firetruck (sic) because I see them at work sometimes on the road....and I work alongside firies at VA's...and I sat in one once....And I did a workplace Fire Extinguisher course once....and I once owned a Scania...and a Hino...and a mitsubishi canter..... and that makes me an expert! 

Regardless of their health expertise, it's still their legislated responsibility.
If an act of parliament said that boredmatrix was responsible for the sale of firetrucks, you'd at least give it a shot wouldn't you?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: November 10, 2009, 12:29:28 PM »
What the filtered, who are Link employing.....do they read messages back to you when you dictate them ?

Not to be picky, but I don't think Link has done our paging for a while.  It's now run by Telstra, subcontracted to a mob called Xacom.

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Country Fire Service / Re: SACFS Service Medals
« on: November 06, 2009, 02:49:48 PM »
I think we should acknowledge that at least someone is trying to recognise the time and effort put in by CFS volunteers.  There's a lot of complaining that we're unappreciated by SAFECOM, but it looks like we don't appreciate efforts they make for us either...

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I believe they're talking about the smaller 6,000 litre per drop jobbie.
Article is on the indaily website today only!  http://www.indaily.com.au/  - flip though to the independent weekly, it's after indaily.

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Anyone else see the article on page 5 of The Independent Weekly today?

Allegedly Lloyd Johns and Peter Schwerdtfeger, (CFS CO and Board chairman in Ash Wednesday), want the CFS to get a SuperScooper aircraft.  The claim the current CFS 'regime' is working hard to prevent anything like this from ever entering the CFS...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Region 1 group boundary rationalisation proposal
« on: September 24, 2009, 03:22:38 PM »
Remembering that the leader of the libs is from the hills area.

I think we would be better off.

Yeah, and the Labor leader is a CFS vol.  Don't get your hopes up.

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Incident Operations / Re: Kilburn plastics fire
« on: September 21, 2009, 11:18:25 AM »
hmm, well in that area i reckon theres about 5 type 2 pumpers for a start....they are better than just ur average broken down old MFS Volvo for a start....

Is that fact, or opinion?

...and outfit the MFS fleet with single hoseline 24s......cos thats all u need for alarm calls, bin fires and 90% of the calls they do....

So with that logic, the CFS should only need a couple of rescue vehicles and a fleet of scooters that can be sent out to check if MVA's have persons trapped.  We all know 90% of MVAs are clean up only...

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SAAS / Re: anyone hear this one on the radio?
« on: September 19, 2009, 11:44:59 PM »
so...they're not allowed to buy alcohol, not allowed to buy smokes, are considered a minor in all facets of law - yet they're considered a "senior" (sic) by St JOhn?

To be fair it is senior cadet, and cadets are pretty low in the ranks by anyone's standards...

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SA Firefighter General / MOVED: Recruitment Age
« on: September 18, 2009, 09:31:10 AM »

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SA Firefighter General / Stay or Go Policy
« on: September 15, 2009, 01:50:37 PM »
The media seems very keen to push the point that the Stay or Go policy is flawed and should be canned in order to save lives.

Does anyone else see this is a stupid move?

What other choices are there?  None!  I thought that was pretty obvious.

Throwing the "Stay or Go" policy into doubt simply encourages people not to make a bushfire action plan because they think that choosing to stay or go will get them killed.

Discuss.

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SA Firefighter General / Bushfire taskforce recommendations
« on: September 15, 2009, 01:42:07 PM »
Quote
News Release

Premier Mike Rann
Hon Michael Wright, Minister for Emergency Services
Hon Jay Weatherill, Minister for Environment and Conservation

Thursday, 10 September 2009

GOVERNMENT TAKES ACTION ON BUSHFIRE TASKFORCE


The State Government today responded to comprehensive recommendations by the Bushfire Task Force, set up to analyse key issues arising from the Victorian Bushfires Royal Commission.

A new telephone and text messaging warning system will be up and running in time for this year's fire danger season.

Premier Mike Rann said the State Government would invest $12.4 million over the next five years to establish and roll out the system in tandem with the Federal Government, which is injecting $15 million into the project.

"This new warning alert system means alerts relating to the most severe fire threats will be sent to landlines and mobile phones based on the owner's billing address for this bushfire season.

"People will also be able to 'opt in' to the service should they have friends or relatives living in bushfire prone regions," Premier Rann said.

"I am told that by the 2010/11 Bushfire Season, the system will be advanced enough to send messages to mobile phone users travelling through a defined emergency area.

"We want to have as many warning systems in place as possible to protect South Australians in the event of a serious bushfire.

"People need to remember that they must exercise vigilance and responsibility and not rely on a single warning system during a bushfire threat.

"I can also announce that we'll be adopting a new nationally agreed slogan of PREPARE. ACT. SURVIVE.

"This is being introduced to reinforce the very real message that people simply won't survive unless they are prepared and take the appropriate action," Premier Rann said.

The PREPARE. ACT. SURVIVE slogan will be used extensively in all communication material during the impending bushfire awareness campaign.

A new Fire Danger Ratings scale will be implemented which will include the new categories of "Severe"; "Extreme"; and "Catastrophic" (Code Red) ? indicating that the Fire Danger Index exceeds 100," Mr Rann said.
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"The purpose of this new category is to let South Australians know that if a fire starts on one of these catastrophic days it is highly likely to be fast moving, uncontrollable and they should not try to defend their homes but relocate," Minister Wright said.

Other key recommendations made by SA's Bushfire Task Force that will be implemented include:

- CFS introducing guidelines and procedures for "directed evacuation" involving Police and other emergency services
- Identifying "Neighbourhood Safer Places" to be used as an alternative for shelter from a bushfire
- Conduct "Bushfire Prevention and Awareness Week" in preparation for fire danger season
- Develop a dwelling bushfire shelter guideline
- Amend the CFS siren policy recommending that working CFS station sirens can be used to provide warnings to communities in specified bushfire emergency situations
- Conduct an audit for the provision of more sirens
- Investigate a framework where State and Federal Government call centres are inter-linked and a capacity for mass incoming calls established

"Another recommendation includes encouraging commercial radio operators to enter into a Memorandum Of Understanding, similar to those that currently exist with the ABC and 5AA for the broadcasting of bushfire warning messages," Mr Wright said.

"I have written to those stations asking that they get on board with the CFS to broadcast bushfire-warning messages this fire danger season, which is just 51 days away.  Obviously this would extend community warnings even further during the danger season, and the more people we can reach the better."

"Whilst SA fire and emergency services can provide advice and warnings to communities, ultimately each individual living in a high risk area needs to be prepared to take protective action should a bushfire strike."

"Since 2002, the Rann Government has implemented a number of important initiatives relating to bushfire prevention and we will continue to ensure that South Australia has the most effective bushfire management practices in place," Minister Wright said.

Environment and Conservation Minister, Jay Weatherill said that the Government also was announcing changes to the rules about managing native vegetation for bushfire prevention purposes.

"People can now clear all native vegetation within 20 metres of a building without approval, Mr Weatherill said.

"Approval processes for other clearances, including for fuel reduction and fire breaks, have been simplified, with most approvals now being granted by the CFS rather than the Native Vegetation Council.

"A new, simplified guide setting out the new rules will be released in coming weeks."

Continuing the Government's commitment to increasing its prescribed burning effort to reduce fuel loads on public lands, more prescribed burning over a larger area is planned for this season.

And in the Mt Lofty Ranges, the three public land agencies ? Department for Environment and Heritage, SA Water and Forestry SA, will join in a combined fuel reduction program.

"This joint approach will allow Government to undertake more burns over a wider area, and to take greater advantage of the small windows of opportunity for burning provided by the weather," Mr Weatherill said.

"In SA we are heading towards the Fire Danger Season and want to see our communities prepare, act and survive the bushfire threat. Now is the time to start preparing," Premier Rann said.

I look forward to seeing what makes it through the CFS chain of command and gets to the volunteers, particularly the evacuation and "Neighbourhood Safer Places" proposals.

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SASES / Re: Search at Paney Station 8th Sept
« on: September 10, 2009, 10:57:38 AM »
With the distance that some of the CFS trucks would be potentially travelling to this search location, would you empty some water out of the truck to make it travel lighter ?

I'm not sure how much difference it would make for a 24/34, but we'll often leave our Tanker empty for a long trip home from a strike team.  (after assessing the risks of course...)

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Country Fire Service / Re: Map of regions
« on: August 31, 2009, 09:52:14 AM »
I might post my meager attempt on Google later this week if there is any interest.

I'd be interested!

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Fire Fighter Training / Re: Vertical Rescue training
« on: August 30, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »
You have to ask will these brigades be located strategically to benefit other brigades and the community or is it the case of just buying some bling!!!

If it is just the bling, is that a problem if they have the money and dedication?  I'd argue it's not.

So the foundation for your hypothesis if brigades have the money (a few) and the dedication (most) they can go out and buy what they want and do what they want, that's a sound arguement?

"Buy what they want and do what they want" is a little different to "get trained and equipped for rope rescue".  If a brigade has the money and dedication, then furthering their Fire Service related skills and equipment is a good thing. 

Rope rescue skills aren't limited to mine shafts and cliffs - they can be applied in situations involving high roofs, steep slopes, even fast flowing water or slippery surfaces. - All of which are probably quite common in Bridgewater (for example).

Having rope rescue as a discipline in a brigade will also add variety to training and help keep the 'younger' generation interested.

I certainly don't think brigades should go out and buy anything or do what they want, but I think there are plenty of things they can buy, or train in that aren't a problem.

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Fire Fighter Training / Re: Vertical Rescue training
« on: August 30, 2009, 11:45:21 AM »
You have to ask will these brigades be located strategically to benefit other brigades and the community or is it the case of just buying some bling!!!

If it is just the bling, is that a problem if they have the money and dedication?  I'd argue it's not.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Map of regions
« on: August 29, 2009, 02:42:14 PM »
  One other question on daylight saving. Do you move into/out of daylight saving as the same time as Victoria or is there a couple of weeks where the time is not 1/2hour difference?

Daylight saving period in South Australia is from the first Sunday in October each year until the first Sunday in April the following year.  I have no idea what Victoria has, and if that's the same or not!

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Is it really so bad that a fire service can assist members of the public with what is a relatively simple task for the service, but difficult for the caller..?

I agree with Pip.  Since the SES took over cat up tree jobs, doesn't the fire service need to take any PR jobs it can?

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Country Fire Service / Re: vaccum continues in staff ranks
« on: August 23, 2009, 02:57:57 PM »
Very helpful... Im sure its no secret and i cant imagine it would cause anyone any issues??

Was just curious but not to worry.

Knowledge is power!

:|

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Country Fire Service / Re: vaccum continues in staff ranks
« on: August 21, 2009, 04:13:51 PM »
What's a vaccum?

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Country Fire Service / Re: vaccum continues in staff ranks
« on: August 20, 2009, 09:14:44 PM »
Who is it this time?

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Fire Fighter Training / Re: Vertical Rescue training
« on: August 20, 2009, 12:54:06 PM »
L hear that a Mt Lofty brigade has also done some twin rope training last year.I think it is Bridgewater as I remember seeing something about them using it at a chimmney fire recently? But I understand they did it off their own back to protect their members when working @ heights.

I say good on them!

The two rope rescue brigades in Mt Lofty Group are Burnside and Stirling, and they have been for some time.  I haven't heard anything about Bridgewater being trained.  (remember if it was a going fire, most brigades in Lofty Group would have been there :P )

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Fire Fighter Training / Re: Vertical Rescue training
« on: August 16, 2009, 10:23:59 PM »
Bill will CFS be trained in the single 11mm rope system SES use or the twin 13mm rope system SAMFS use?

I don't know what they're teaching on current courses, but previous SACFS courses have taught the twin rope system.

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12:02:18   13-08-09   MFS: HI GEOFF, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A BOOSTER TEST ON AT 1315. THAT WILL SEE 6 TRUCKS OUT OF THE SYSTEM, WE WILL NEED AT LEAST ONE OF YOUR TRUCKS BACK BY THEN. MJ.
MFS Car 40

Why don't they just use some of the 34P's they have at angle park to test the boosters?

..oh wait

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