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All Equipment discussion / Re: CFA Heavy Concept Tanker
« on: September 23, 2010, 11:38:57 AM »
Below is a link to a video and more photo's of the CFA Heavy Concept Tanker

All Equipment discussion / Re: Japanese Concept Tanker
« on: August 24, 2010, 12:06:04 PM »
The following link provides better information and photo's

All Equipment discussion / Japanese Concept Tanker
« on: July 26, 2010, 05:58:24 PM »
If you think the CFA Concept Tanker is hi-tech have a look at the Japanese version

Japanese Concept Tanker (pdf 221 kb)

PS Make sure you scroll down to the last page

Country Fire Service / Re: ABC Stateline
« on: May 03, 2010, 02:47:45 PM »
The Skycrane (S-64E) used in SA has a maximum capacity of only 7500L
The Elvis Skycrane (S-64F) has a maximum capacity of 9800L

All Equipment discussion / Re: CFA light tanker
« on: February 01, 2010, 01:24:53 PM »
For anyone interested the ABC's New Inventors have a episode on "Fighting Fire" this week. It's going to feature the CFA Light Tanker, Guardian Comms System and EYEfi SPARC.

Emergency Vehicles / Re: New CFS QRV's
« on: January 20, 2010, 11:13:03 AM »
The Victorian version costs $120,000. Seems very expensive for a glorified slip-on.

Emergency Aircraft / Helitack 534
« on: December 15, 2009, 09:40:09 AM »
Below is a link to the Sunday Mail article on Helitack 534 (including video),22606,26471005-2682,00.html

Country Fire Service / Re: CFS Appliances involved in MVA
« on: November 26, 2009, 07:22:32 AM »
The USA have a "Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Centre" where all safety reports/investigations are published.

I also cannot understand why in Australia these reports aren't made public.

Emergency Aircraft / Re: SA watches trial of giant waterbomber
« on: November 07, 2009, 09:15:07 AM »

A MULTI-million dollar super water-bomber capable of soaking a 1.2km bushfire in one hit will join our firefighting arsenal this summer.
The water-bombing jet will be able to reach anywhere in Victoria in just 45 minutes, and is being billed as an important weapon in heading off another Black Saturday disaster.

With forecasts of a fierce summer, Premier John Brumby moved quickly to get an Australian-first firefighting jet lease, most likely a modified DC-10 or 747 jumbo carrier.

Police and Emergency Services Minister Bob Cameron told the Herald Sun the aircraft would be one important weapon in fighting fires and protecting Victorians.

"This will be another asset as we leave no stone unturned to help deliver on our goal of making Victoria as fire safe and as fire ready as possible," he said.

Country Fire Service / Re: New CFS pumpers
« on: September 21, 2009, 09:43:38 AM »
Just some information on the CFA "Light Pumper"
Costs around $200,000
2500 LPM Pump
1100L Water

SA Firefighter General / Re: Fire Ban MLR 23 April
« on: April 24, 2009, 10:14:20 AM »
I think it's odd with all our modern technology, we are still using a FDI that was developed in 1967.

All Equipment discussion / Re: CFA light tanker
« on: March 12, 2009, 10:44:30 AM »
The Light Tanker is due to be tested in the CSIRO Bushfire Simulator (Burnover Simulator) in April/May. It could be a "firey end" for the Light Tanker.

Country Fire Service / Re: Burn Over Curtains for Command Cars
« on: March 10, 2009, 02:53:14 PM »
I'm sorry for any misinterpretations in my last post. I've tried to correct the errors.

Below is a link to a BushfireCRC presentation on the development of the Tanker Protection Spray System and the testing that was carried out,d_perth04.pdf

Country Fire Service / Re: Burn Over Curtains for Command Cars
« on: March 09, 2009, 07:50:49 PM »
I think its important to remember that no firefighters were lost on Black Saturday. In some cases this was due to luck but improved training, tankers and safety first firefighting since the Linton Tragedy played crucial roles

Below is some links to CSIRO research into vehicle burnovers (You've probably already seen it). While no vehicles were fitted with radiant heat curtains, Toxic Gases were a greater concern than thermal limits.

I'm sorry for any misinterpretations

Country Fire Service / Re: Burn Over Curtains for Command Cars
« on: March 09, 2009, 09:54:49 AM »
A command vehicle fitted with Burnover Curtains is only marginally safer than a standard vehicle. I think "Safety First" is a better option.

Country Fire Service / Re: Burn Over Curtains for Command Cars
« on: March 08, 2009, 10:47:31 AM »
Personally I think fitting Burnover Curtains to command cars is pointless. It gives the occupants a false sense of security.

Country Fire Service / Re: Interstate deployments
« on: February 24, 2009, 09:35:16 AM »
Just a word of warning. The "Halo" and other protective spray systems are only designed for fires less than 10MW/M (FDI 40, 20 Tonnes/Hectare). During Black Saturday the FDI was 100-300 and the fuels loads were 40+ Tonnes in places. Any tanker (Halo eqipped, Fire King etc) could not survive these conditions.

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