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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: mengcfs on September 27, 2007, 05:13:53 PM
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MFS: NOTIFICATION ONLY: SEVERE WEATHER WARNING FOR THURS 27TH SEPT, ISSUED FOR LEP, MLR, AM, YP, KI, MUR, USE, LSE. HIGH WIND GUSTS, MAY BE EXPECTED. 27/09/2007 2:30:57 PM
Should relevant Regions be sending this info to Vollies?
Your thoughts........
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yeh i thourt they would have sent it. they have sent similar msges in the past.
i think it just lets brigades/units know- (even though they can look out the window and see the wind :-P)
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who cares lol.....we know its windy by looking out the window :-P
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Yes I agree with you there Adam,having said that region five did send out a page....mind you it was blowing well before we got the page...
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I'm more along the lines of to let us know the weather is coming, not when it's hit. What's the use of a page when the weather is already here. Yes, i can look out the window, but it's all too late then.
Anyway just thought we should be making more use of this fantatic resource.
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I believe the weather warnings are issued to SES volunteers in specific areas when the Bureau of Meterology advises that it is a high probability of the weather reaching the ground . Thus the high risk of storm damage to buildings.
Some Units will then have volunteers on active standby at the LHQ's so that callout response is quicker.
Trees snap in any weather (incl no wind days), so alerts for this risk is constant. For example, the Adelaide hills area yesterday & last night. The pager would be activated every day if they wanted to warn volunteers of this risk.
CFS heirarchy receive the pager message when a 'severe weather alert' is issued. It is up to them to decide if they wish to disturb the volunteers.
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Understand all of this. My question was
Should relevant Regions be sending this info to Vollies?
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not really...cos volunteers are smart enough to know its windy :-D
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not really...cos volunteers are smart enough to know its windy :-D
I don't know many volunteers who can predict how windy its going to be at what time and where, hours before it happens though ;)
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not really...cos volunteers are smart enough to know its windy :-D
What, your a mobile weather station are you?
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hahaha no! lol....but use ya eyes and ears...and thats enough warning for a volunteer to know of a high chance of storm damage/tree jobs.
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Let us know what the weather will do at 1500hrs on Tuesday Dezza.
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do it urself :-P :-D
but im predicting what i want....sunshine :)
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sunshine and about 26 with north winds....
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Let us know what the weather will do at 1500hrs on Tuesday Dezza.
he he gotta put my prediction in. lol
at 1500hrs (precise). 16, northly winds, cloudy.
will see wat happens
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Let us know what the weather will do at 1500hrs on Tuesday Dezza.
Yeah, and I want to know the Barametric pressure and what the tide will be doing..
A good firefighter knows how good pre-planning can be Dez.. Its alot more involved than just "looking out the window"..
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Yeah, and I want to know the Barametric pressure and what the tide will be doing..
Barametric pressure will be up or down and the tide will be in/out or dodge. :-D :-D :-D
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Yeah, and I want to know the Barametric pressure and what the tide will be doing..
Barametric pressure will be up or down and the tide will be in/out or dodge. :-D :-D :-D
he he okay, considering wat weather today and using averages the barametric pressure will be round 760 mark, and the tide, should be coming in (in theory) but hey anyone can prove me wrong on that, as i do live in the country not on the beach. and still going with wat i said b4 16, wind and cloud at 1500hrs.
not being a smarty pants just using knowledge. coz apparently i have that. :? LOL
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A good firefighter knows how good pre-planning can be Dez.. Its alot more involved than just "looking out the window"..
haha, but is it my job to be the one pre-planning right this second...while im not at a job? no lol....and thats why im chilling a relaxing on a early saturday morning :)
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We will be right soon Adam,as its almost summer so we should get daily weather reports????
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Just forget it.. - What I was getting at Dez is the comment "Just use your eyes and ears" is a little too blase! .. It can often be too late by then.
You comment re: not planning unless your at a job..- Well heck, don't be anywhere near me when its the middle of January! I want someone who knows a bit about what to expect that day! At 8am when its already passing 30 degrees, hot northerly winds gusting at around 50/60kmh are starting to come through the gully's and the R/H is 0% with an FDI of 105.. - When the pager drops its going to be too bl00dy late! .. Pre planning or the information regarding weather and what its going to be doing can be crucial. So never just say ....but use ya eyes and ears...and thats enough warning for a volunteer..
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Just forget it.. - What I was getting at Dez is the comment "Just use your eyes and ears" is a little too blase! .. It can often be too late by then.
You comment re: not planning unless your at a job..- Well heck, don't be anywhere near me when its the middle of January! I want someone who knows a bit about what to expect that day! At 8am when its already passing 30 degrees, hot northerly winds gusting at around 50/60kmh are starting to come through the gully's and the R/H is 0% with an FDI of 105.. - When the pager drops its going to be too bl00dy late! .. Pre planning or the information regarding weather and what its going to be doing can be crucial. So never just say ....but use ya eyes and ears...and thats enough warning for a volunteer..
I agree with you one hundred and fiftey percent RescueHazmat. A good firefighter is able to use their knowledge to work out , to a certain degree, what could happen if a job was to happen in a given weather situation, or even the type of job to expect. Ie. wet weather- expect vehicle accidents to occur as somepeople dont drive to conditions. Or, in the middle of summer when, as you said it is 8am and passing 30 degrees- expect a rural type job, grasss, scrub or forest, and expect it to be filtered hard to control.
Most jobs, summer expecially, when the pager drops, the time for pre planing is gone.
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Not to mention you can only pre-plan before the job. After that it stops being a pre plan, and becomes a plan... (Obviously)
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Its VERY hard to pre plan Rural responses...
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thats why you have a group responce plan ...
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Or pre-planning like 2 days in advance to the perfect fire day is good as well :-)
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Let us know what the weather will do at 1500hrs on Tuesday Dezza.
its nice and warm, but a little windy here... ;)
anyway, back on track a bit. Adam, completely up to the regional coordinator at the time to contact Adelaide fire and request the message be sent to vols... im all for it, we need to know if severe weatehr is on its way... good for preplanning ;)
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who cares lol.....we know its windy by looking out the window :-P
Not if it hasn't reach you yet :-D