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General Discussion => SAMFS => Topic started by: JamesGar on June 16, 2005, 01:51:31 PM

Title: 204
Post by: JamesGar on June 16, 2005, 01:51:31 PM
Just in at Wakefield Street MFS HQ (Station 20) and got to see what looks to be the new replacement for 204. Looks to have the same buildup on the back as current, including the Palfinger Crane, but with a new Scania Cab/Chassis. Only new addition is a winch on the front.

It would be nice if the CFS could run similar Rescues!
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Good times on June 16, 2005, 02:08:21 PM
Yeah not a bad bus that! Built by the workshops, crane is off the old 204 spare. Has been around for a while, just not on the run.

I think for the cost CFS could build half a dozen Canter rescue's, so it would never happen.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: JamesGar on June 16, 2005, 04:24:40 PM
I think the crane is an interesting add on for that appliance. I believe it is from the old rescue tender with the pod system where they could transfer a pod to the ground. Don't know how much it gets used, but have only heard of it once with a patient removal from a balcony on a 2 storey house at Seaview Down recently.

I don't think any other fire services in oz have a crane on there heavy rescue tenders.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: oz fire on June 17, 2005, 09:34:39 AM
The crane and pod configuration have come from the 'old' 204.
The crane has been used a number of times to retrieve vehicles and other items and I also believe a few times to assist in stabilisation (although not sure how you would feel working in car with that style of stabilisation James???)
WAFB did have similar and they are also used O/S - but for a variety of different reasons - in Europe they seam to have a better pod set up - from RCR to Hazmat, to Medical to water recovery, to salvage - probally the precursor to what MFS are doing with the roll on roll off.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Good times on June 17, 2005, 12:58:37 PM
I think that's why they have now gone to a fixed body on both 204's, the Volvo was rebuilt with a fixed body, the Scania also has a fixed body. The POD system seems to be developing.
I have also seen the crane used several times.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: JamesGar on June 17, 2005, 06:15:32 PM
I heard it was used last week for a horse (ney!) recovery last week at Williamstown
Title: Re: 204
Post by: strikeathird on June 17, 2005, 11:56:59 PM
Awesome truck.

Have seen the crane stabalise a car at a rescue before, gets used a fair bit.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: CyberCitizen on June 20, 2005, 11:27:35 AM
Anyone Got A Pic To Post???
Title: Re: 204
Post by: strikeathird on June 20, 2005, 02:07:06 PM
On my other PC, will put a few up tonight.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: JamesGar on June 29, 2005, 09:05:21 PM
Got a bit of a low down on the truck:

Moore did the Build up, MFS workshops did the fit out. Some of the panels are now lifting as they were put on with double sided 3M sticky tape! True Story no bull! Apparently using the sticky tape is what fire appliance manufacturer is europe have been doing for years!

Interesting though!
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Good times on June 29, 2005, 09:09:58 PM
Is this the new or the old one, as I have noticed the older one missing some bits.

I could have sworn SAMFS workshops did the whole body on the new one as I dropped in a few times in the early stages and they were doing it.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: JamesGar on June 29, 2005, 09:15:15 PM
No it definitely the new one, talked to one of the Workshop guys about it the other day.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Good times on June 29, 2005, 09:38:13 PM
Well Moore's must have done just the basic shell, as when I saw it, it was unpainted, had no roller doors fitted and was sitting on blocks of wood on the chassis in the workshops, and it took ages, I reckon the truck itself would be nearly 2 years old!
Title: Re: 204
Post by: strikeathird on June 29, 2005, 09:51:22 PM
The 3M tape sounds a little dogy!

Wonder if the union knows about this    :?
Title: Re: 204
Post by: oz fire on July 01, 2005, 09:18:25 AM
Using 3M tape saves money and time - hence more for the pay rise  :wink:
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Mike on July 08, 2005, 01:07:55 PM
Here are a few pics I aquired....

http://www.safirefighter.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=42
Title: Re: 204
Post by: CyberCitizen on July 08, 2005, 01:49:14 PM
http://www.safirefighter.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=15&pid=42&slideshow=5000

Nice Looking Truck, I Want One.  Does It Come In White?
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Firefrog on July 09, 2005, 07:57:35 AM
Just for interest I am happy for you to link an image from the gallery into the forum by using the actual image url and the img tags. (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/Themes/default/images/bbc/img.gif) Click this button found in your message entry screen.

To find the actual images url right click the image in IE and click properties - copy the url and paste it between the img tags in your post.
You will then see your image load into the forum like below.

(http://www.safirefighter.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10042/20050416%20C%20002%20copy.jpg)
Title: Re: 204
Post by: corocfs on July 09, 2005, 09:26:32 AM
i presume we can then link images from our own galleries/web pages???
p.s. would have replied in the other topic area, but its locked....
Title: Re: 204
Post by: JamesGar on July 09, 2005, 10:30:59 AM
By the looks of the two or three new MF S appliances I've seen I think they're fitting additional airconditioning unit to the roof like you can see on 204. I love better a/c's in some of our vehicles, they are currently good, but don't cut the mustard on hotter days!
Title: Re: 204
Post by: strikeathird on July 09, 2005, 03:19:42 PM
That is one thing i havent found to be a huge problem with our 2001 Model 24P.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Good times on July 09, 2005, 05:12:44 PM
2000 model, toughen up guys............ :-P
Title: Re: 204
Post by: strikeathird on July 09, 2005, 06:57:41 PM
same sh*t, different channel.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Andrew on November 26, 2005, 05:17:15 AM
A bit of news for an old thread, but....

Moore Engineering manufactured the first vehicle on the volvo, also manufactured the body of the second vehicle on the scania. Workshops did the fit out, Skilled did the electrical and painting.

Moore Eng used 3M tape for the panels - it is a tried and tested method of manufacture, some of the panels lifted. Combination of problems, but it was re worked and seems fine now.

Moore Eng have also used a glue, this is common in vehicle manufacture - cars. It also works well.

Andrew
Title: Re: 204
Post by: TillerMan on November 30, 2005, 04:30:54 PM
Very nice trucks, it just goes to show that moores can make an excellent product when given the right direction and money, unfortunatly alot of the complaints about trucks coming out of moores is because of a lack of funds and c.f.s trying to squeeze too much out of them.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Wagon 1 on December 01, 2005, 09:10:33 AM
Here Here, you only have to look at the SES Rescue trucks, they do a great job of those.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Andrew on December 02, 2005, 03:31:26 AM
Thanks all for the feedback and positive support. we do (as with most manufactures) the best job that the budget allows. If we could all get those money trees growing and blooming thing could be a lot diffrent.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: pete on February 04, 2006, 11:00:09 PM
If you want some info on 204,i can tell you that it was decked out by MFS engineering.The frame was made by Moore Engineering.A guy called Richard at MFS manufactured and welded the locker floors in it,set up the wheel arches and panelled parts of it.Then it was sent back to Moores to be finished.By the way 3m aint no good...
Title: Re: 204
Post by: oz fire on February 06, 2006, 11:09:18 AM
Interesting that services write the specifications and sign off on the final product and styling, workmanship etc, etc, etc and then that same service has issues with the product and who cops the blame - the manufacturers, who were only following the specs written by the service.

Good to see mfs engineering working with local manufacturers to complete projects!
Title: Re: 204
Post by: probie_boy on April 06, 2006, 03:41:55 PM
it sounds like this truck ahs done more miles when getting built than on response.

I often see this truck if i'm in town, and i've been to an RCR where it was responded. A good truck, methinks.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: PF_ on April 06, 2006, 04:12:57 PM
I saw an unidintified MFS truck today near Gawler station.  THey were just sittin there outside the centrelink building.  Looked like Salisbury's older one but didnt have Salisbury written on it.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on April 06, 2006, 05:21:17 PM
Might have been one of the spares, when we were at Two Wells for flooding last november a couple of the MFS guys had brought the spares up with them and they looked like Salisbury 329??
Title: Re: 204
Post by: PF_ on April 06, 2006, 05:26:20 PM
Yeah, most likely.  Wonder what it was doing down here though.  Was probably less than 1km from Gawler MFS.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on April 06, 2006, 05:31:28 PM
Might have been replacing 359 or sitting on a boundry for a COQ job or promo job could've been anything i suppose.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: PF_ on April 06, 2006, 05:33:12 PM
Yeah I guess, bro was drivin so fast didnt really get a chance to see what was happening.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: strikeathird on April 06, 2006, 07:01:25 PM
List about as long as my arm for what could have been happening.



Nxt time just ring MFS and ask... Its easier..





 :-P
Title: Re: 204
Post by: PF_ on April 06, 2006, 07:05:20 PM
Do you have midget arms or are you an octopus? :-P

Where are the spare MFS appliances kept?
Title: Re: 204
Post by: strikeathird on April 06, 2006, 07:08:35 PM
Im a tall filtered.



MFS spares are usually kept at adelaide, or the training facility..  Very occasionally u might see one being stored at a station for a short time...

When the bush fires were happening in Jan through adelaide hills and pt lincoln etc, cause they were stretched, they called extra crews in, to man training appliances... Saw and heard a few going Priority 1 around the place.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: probie_boy on April 07, 2006, 09:29:50 AM
hey wheres the training facility? is that where they do the intake tests and stuff?
Title: Re: 204
Post by: SA Firey on May 17, 2007, 03:01:12 AM
hey wheres the training facility? is that where they do the intake tests and stuff?

Angle Park see pics
Title: Re: 204
Post by: SA Firey on May 17, 2007, 03:03:04 AM
more
Title: Re: 204
Post by: SA Firey on May 17, 2007, 03:05:12 AM
more
Title: Re: 204
Post by: RescueHazmat on May 17, 2007, 07:58:55 PM
Nothing like resurrecting the dead ...  (Threads)
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Camo on May 18, 2007, 05:47:53 PM
I think SA Firey must get bored and just go looking through all the old threads....Im guilty of this occasionaly
Title: Re: 204
Post by: Firefrog on May 18, 2007, 06:15:26 PM
In a lot of ways it's a good thing. Especially for new users who get to see some of the old discussion made new.... 8-)
Title: Re: 204
Post by: SA Firey on May 19, 2007, 10:10:43 AM
I think SA Firey must get bored and just go looking through all the old threads....Im guilty of this occasionaly

Why you jealous Cam :lol:

A lot of the old threads didnt have photos :-P
Title: Re: 204
Post by: josh on May 25, 2007, 07:06:02 PM
SA Firie,

have you got a close up pic of all the people who got in the march intake? would be good to see if any of the blokes that i talked to etc at the test days got in.
Title: Re: 204
Post by: SA Firey on June 30, 2007, 08:33:37 PM
As you can see by Picture 009 how many there are,but to have their faces shown here would be abusing the privledge :wink: