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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: Crankus Maximus on November 22, 2006, 09:33:24 PM
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Hey cranks... Anybody have any idea or some inside info on the chances of Region 1 deploying a Strike team to the Blue Mountains or Victoria?? Im keen to go and wanted to just put it out there... Let us know your opinion!!
Bogan
Crank
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Put your filtered back in your pants and settle down. Bit gunhoe me thinks
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If we are talking about in the next week or two .....zero.
Too much of a risk in SA, and the NSW guys haven't been out there that long....when CFS sent appliances previously, the NSW guys had been chasing fires for several weeks AND the fire danger in SA at the time was quite low
Pip :-D
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Put your filtered back in your pants and settle down. Bit gunhoe me thinks
you mean "gungho"? it means teamwork, not what people usually think it means, see: http://www.chinapage.com/word/gungho.html (http://www.chinapage.com/word/gungho.html)
(info thanks to Bob Kearney)
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bogan, I agree with Pipster...there would be almost no chance of us sending help eastward at this point...if you weren't involved with Tuesday's action, then I can appreciate you being so keen...our current threat level is way too high to leave the state.
We even consider the threat in our own Region before leaving...be patient..there will be many more fires to come this season...in our State.
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too crank mate, too crank...
lol
i highly doubt we will be sent interstate over the next couple of weeks, as others have stated the fire weather here has been a bit too exciting lately.
just be content with some local action
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The name says it all :-P
Worry about our own backyard before you jump in someone elses :-D
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I think it might be a stir :lol:
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16:10:44 24-11-06 PMGCC: Strike teams are required for Victoria - Dergam NOW please call 87 382 555 or 87 382 497 if you wish to attend
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16:10:44 24-11-06 PMGCC: Strike teams are required for Victoria - Dergam NOW please call 87 382 555 or 87 382 497 if you wish to attend
Heard on the radio they had those fires under control? Either they just want some fresh crews or something drastic has happened.
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I think that would be Little Desert National Park men :-D
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strike team is going to casterton to assist CFA
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Fires at casterton and dergholm arent contained. 2 other fires nearby are.
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The major difference here is that the Strike team has been requested from what is basically the next door Group / Region to where the fires are..it just so happens that the fire is across the border into another state, rather than another Region. It is not a lot different to what we have been doing here in SA in the last few days...)
Pip
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Its an interstate deployment no matter which way you look at it, and its just the closest available resources.
there are a few region 5 brigades that regularly hop across the border into Vic
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look if he wants to go let him pack his bag get on the bus and go offer his help.....mind you when he gets there he will be so pissed off that we are all running around trying to deal what is goin on back here.Its not summer yet settle down and wait your turn we will all see load's of action this summer.. Mind you I have seen eneough this week and have not seen much of my wife as she is the boss of the catering/aux here and we just say hello or good bye..Mind you we did have tea the other night at the station with our boy's...
SO WAIT MORE TOURS TO COME.....
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Yep just remember those funny little pages we got last season...
ANYONE WANTING TO GO ON AN ALL EXPENSES PAID TRIP TO KANGAROO ISLAND FOR 3 DAYS PLEASE CONTACT GROUP OFFICER :-D :lol:
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He needs to experience a deployment to know that as interstaters you don't get to get in and get dirty...only the blacking out and mopping up and support to others...play in your own state and you get to be in control and on the front line... :wink:
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Im yet to experience a deployment interstate as well :wink: :-)
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Plenty time Robert....they can be very boring...if you've ever had interstaters come and help us...we only give them the shite tasks to do...nothing different for us... :lol:
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Last time I went to Sydney we worked our butts off doing backburns around all the towns for six days straight.....30kms later we could say it was safe,but it was backbreaking work.
Make sure your fit Rob
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And if they are disorganised you sit on your donkey for 3 hours waiting for trucks to turn up so you can get to the fire ground. e.g Dergholm!
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And if they are disorganised you sit on your filtered for 3 hours waiting for trucks to turn up so you can get to the fire ground. e.g Dergholm!
And when the RFS get bored they light up an area further up from you, which takes off and jumps the railway line, and everyone has to scramble to save it from getting out of control :evil:
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And if they are disorganised you sit on your filtered for 3 hours waiting for trucks to turn up so you can get to the fire ground. e.g Dergholm!
mate, you don't have to go interstate for that luxury! Just go to KI and experience a hot crew change. Mund will know what im on about...and burnside bogan for that matter. :wink:
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As a member of a brigade that goes over the border alot its no big deal we have had in place for years a respoce plan that works on both sides.this year we had to seek permission from our local council to get there 18,000lt water tanker to come on border strike teams into Victoria as there is no water. i would not look at it as a interstate deployement but rather a region to region job.....
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Thats rubbing shoulders with your neighbours, whereas Sydney is a charter flight flying Qantas full of firefighters and staying in motel accommodation,and hot bedding between shifts..you'll get four hours sleep if your lucky :-D
Breakfast is great full of scrambled eggs,bacon, sausages, hash browns cereal etc
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Look at this
ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS STRIKE TEAM PERSONEL REQUIRED FOR POSSIBLE DEPLOYMENT 5 DAYS NSW BURNSIDE 24 & TANKER PLS PH CRAIG -------- IF AVAILABLE
EDIT: sorry craig
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Look at this
ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS STRIKE TEAM PERSONEL REQUIRED FOR POSSIBLE DEPLOYMENT 5 DAYS NSW BURNSIDE 24 & TANKER PLS PH CRAIG ********** IF AVAILABLE
Well you beat me to it.. looks like they are just assesing number of those available at the the moment tho... :-o
ps im not too sure if craig would be happy with ya posting his mobile no all over the web...
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and is Burnside's bogan going to go?
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It must be quite serious tho
MCFLAT INFO POSSIBLE TASKING FOR CREWS ONLY TO NSW FOR 5 DAYS AT TIME IF INTERESTED CALL KYM -------, NOTHING CERTAIN YET
ORO INFO ONLY: SIGNIFICANT FIRES BURNING IN THE RIVERLAND (WAIKERIE) SEVERAL GROUPS HAVE STRIKE TEAMS RESPONDING. DEPLOYMENT TO NSW FROM CFS HAS ALSO STARTED. BE READY! TKS Lt 2
30/11/2006 11:56:06 PM Successful: Msg: 594 [To INFO ONKAPARINGA] Seeking an indication of who MAY be available to go to Sydney. Not sure when. but region wanted an idea if anyone would be available. It would be a five day shift, 1 going,
OR PREPLANNING, INTERESTED CREW FOR A 5 DAY DEPLOYMENT TO SYDNEY, CONTACT CL CAPT ASAP ON -----
and many more that you can read yourself
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Well what is the weather for the state for the next week?
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and is Burnside's bogan going to go?
Well he might just get his wish after all :lol:
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and is Burnside's bogan going to go?
oh the bogan is going dont you worry... and ill crank it up a notch and send you a postcard... hahaha... well it still remains to be seen if they actually send anyone... but if they do expect a postcard ryan... :mrgreen:
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Dont see the need to go to NSW as RFS only have 15% of there members on the ground,better we stay here and deal with what we have at hand in our own back yard.Next week going to be warm to very hot....
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A bit more lightning will continue to keep things interesting over here anyway :-D
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i dont think anything re going to NSW has actually be confirmed... looks like some groups are getting excited though.
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I would like to think that sense would prevail and we don't seriously consider sending anyone interstate when we have so many active fires in our own patch!
The current pattern of lightening (which I heard on a long range forecast is going to continue until January) would see us having new fires every week...let alone the ones that are still burning from last week... :?
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i dont think anything re going to NSW has actually be confirmed... looks like some groups are getting excited though.
1908960 07:54:24 01-12-06 ANYONE WISHING TO GO ON KYEEMA COMPOSITE STRIKE TEAM TO NSW LEAVING SUN FLYING RING ME ASAP BRADLEY
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Be interested to see what numbers they are chasing...and get...
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i dont think anything re going to NSW has actually be confirmed... looks like some groups are getting excited though.
1908960 07:54:24 01-12-06 ANYONE WISHING TO GO ON KYEEMA COMPOSITE STRIKE TEAM TO NSW LEAVING SUN FLYING RING ME ASAP BRADLEY
as i said, still not confirmed. just excited groups...
personally i dont see why 'we' are all so keen to go interstate.
if ppl are keen to go to NSW then why not the bookmark fires instead? or KI fires when they happen...
what is so good about interstate? just the crank factor?
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Like ive said before we should be worrying about what is in our own backyard first,and remember when you go you leave your own community short of crews :wink:
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I couldn't agree more Medevac....I suppose it's sounds exciting and there's that aspect but vollies don't believe us when we say it's better fighting our own fires than being back up interstate... :lol:
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and....you have to have a level of experience and training before being allowed to go...any newbies aren't/shouldn't be included...it's a time when you have to trust your team to know what to do when you are in unfamiliar territory, weather, fire behaviour and working with another organisation...something to seriously consider... :-o
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They'd be mad to consider it with the level of activity at the moment...
1909827 14:00:20 01-12-06 R1HQ: URGENT MESS. REGION HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR 3 STRIKE TEAMS 1 TO REGION 3. 2 S/T TO R5 TO FOREST FIRE NEAR MT GAMBIER. COULD ALL GROUPS PLEASE CONFRIM WITH REGION AVAILABILITY. 1/12/2006 1:59:39 PM
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They'd be mad to consider it with the level of activity at the moment...
1909827 14:00:20 01-12-06 R1HQ: URGENT MESS. REGION HAS BEEN REQUESTED FOR 3 STRIKE TEAMS 1 TO REGION 3. 2 S/T TO R5 TO FOREST FIRE NEAR MT GAMBIER. COULD ALL GROUPS PLEASE CONFRIM WITH REGION AVAILABILITY. 1/12/2006 1:59:39 PM
A sign of whats coming for summer and beyond :-o
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Hey look
ATTENTION MEMBERS RE NSW DEPLOYMENT DUE TO FIRES DOWN SOUTH ALL CREWS HAVE BEEN CANCELLED THANKS DEAN YOU KNOW NUMBER
Weather this is just in a certain brigade i don't know But?
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noone is going to NSW at this stage...
there are too largwe going fires in SA!!!
im sure we all know about the current risks with the bookmark fires and LSE forest fire near burrungule.
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and is Burnside's bogan going to go?
oh the bogan is going dont you worry... and ill crank it up a notch and send you a postcard... hahaha... well it still remains to be seen if they actually send anyone... but if they do expect a postcard ryan... :mrgreen:
Sick mate 8-)
There is a minimum experience level needed to go interstate Captain Commy, 2 years "experience." (cause we all know length doesnt equate for fireground experience necessarily :wink: )
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With whats happening in the SE this afternoon that deployment will be a distant dream for some...maybe next time Bogey :-D
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ive heard gambiers a bit of a non event. everyones just gone mental coz its in a pine forest.
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ive heard gambiers a bit of a non event. everyones just gone mental coz its in a pine forest.
Hmm, spoken like someone who hasn't seen a going forest fire or has any knowledge of the potential of these incidents...
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Well we got home from the gambier fire at 2330 hrs and our team worked well in trying to stop the spread from the east side into 3 year old pines. many times the fire broke out further up the line where wattle range and gambier group appliances where working.This fire only small in size around 250/300hcts of pine did have the potentaion to spread and spot into glencoe and compton. The wind just kept on blowing and at one stage I had wind speed at ground level at 30kmph but further up the hill it was more like 50/60.One thing I will say those firekings are worth there wait in gold. The region one strike time arrived about 2130 hours anhd where put onto the ground not sure what they would be doing as the area is very step and if anyone has been to a forest fire before will know that there are more hazards there than at a grass or scrub fire.... I did take some pictures and these will be posted on the CFSPROMO SITE. The 4 bombers did the best they could and some very windy and rough conditions....
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1919088 13:39:00 02-12-06 taylorxh:D and C shift NSW deployment on Monday not going ahead..Planning for A shift deployment on tuesday and/or Wednesday.Further details from DO Thompson S
Well for all the crankers out there it looks like you have to be MFS to go to NSW sorry :cry: :lol:
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*Sigh* :roll: summer hasnt even showed its true colours yet and another fire is running rampant :-(
1908992 16:40:39 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER, MYLOR, STIRLING, UPPER STURT & BRADBURY TANKER RESPOND STRIKE TEAM TO HARROGATE FIRE - STAGING AT LITTLEHAMPTON FIRE STATION - AWAIT ARRIVAL OF LOFTY DO.
1909538 16:00:32 02-12-06 SHQ: SIGINC: FYI: BIM (IGNITION DEVELOPMENT) ISSUED FOR HARROGATE FIRE - DSC MILLER
1912670 15:15:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: AIRCREW RESPONSE REQUIRED FOR GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE - PLEASE CONFIRM PAGE AND PICKUP LOCATIONS WITH SOCC ASAP
1925153 15:30:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: HELITAK 533 & 534 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE NEAR RANGE RD
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mm was having a listen to the scanner on that one...
around 30 appliances.... five groups
only 20ha :lol:
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I may have stated in another thread but that kind of response will mean that by mid December crews will be absolutely sick of being that 4th or 5th strike team who rocks up and does nothing I have been on two already and in my brigade it is taking a toll in people who stay home from work to do piss all the the fire.
It doesn't really sound right that we want to fight a large fire but it is kinda true that I would rather give up time to work my but off than stand around.
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Mt gambier fire burned 185Ha.
I better refrain from saying anything else otherwise i may end up in hot water.
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Some things are best left unsaid Camo :wink:
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*Sigh* :roll: summer hasnt even showed its true colours yet and another fire is running rampant :-(
1908992 16:40:39 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER, MYLOR, STIRLING, UPPER STURT & BRADBURY TANKER RESPOND STRIKE TEAM TO HARROGATE FIRE - STAGING AT LITTLEHAMPTON FIRE STATION - AWAIT ARRIVAL OF LOFTY DO.
1909538 16:00:32 02-12-06 SHQ: SIGINC: FYI: BIM (IGNITION DEVELOPMENT) ISSUED FOR HARROGATE FIRE - DSC MILLER
1912670 15:15:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: AIRCREW RESPONSE REQUIRED FOR GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE - PLEASE CONFIRM PAGE AND PICKUP LOCATIONS WITH SOCC ASAP
1925153 15:30:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: HELITAK 533 & 534 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE NEAR RANGE RD
can any 1 give any more details about this fire that wasn't already on the paging site? as i'm not in the area to know or see anything!!
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*Sigh* :roll: summer hasnt even showed its true colours yet and another fire is running rampant :-(
1908992 16:40:39 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: ALDGATE, BRIDGEWATER, MYLOR, STIRLING, UPPER STURT & BRADBURY TANKER RESPOND STRIKE TEAM TO HARROGATE FIRE - STAGING AT LITTLEHAMPTON FIRE STATION - AWAIT ARRIVAL OF LOFTY DO.
1909538 16:00:32 02-12-06 SHQ: SIGINC: FYI: BIM (IGNITION DEVELOPMENT) ISSUED FOR HARROGATE FIRE - DSC MILLER
1912670 15:15:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: AIRCREW RESPONSE REQUIRED FOR GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE - PLEASE CONFIRM PAGE AND PICKUP LOCATIONS WITH SOCC ASAP
1925153 15:30:58 02-12-06 SHQ: *CFSRES: HELITAK 533 & 534 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, BONDLEIGH RD, HARROGATE NEAR RANGE RD
can any 1 give any more details about this fire that wasn't already on the paging site? as i'm not in the area to know or see anything!!
The reason why most of us know about fires in different regions is because we have scanners that can pick up GRN voice traffic as well as bomber aircraft traffic on 132.550 Mhz (aircraft band)
Maybe you should think about investing in buying a uniden scanner like the t8 or 780 off of ebay or from a local electronics store thats how some of us vollies are able to know before hand how serious an emergency is by just listening to Forestry,NPWSA,SAAS or SES radio traffic
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what else is there to say lil_missfirey?
around 5 groups worth of appliances, for a 20Ha fire..... rather strange :-P
Camo - whats the go mate? it was only 185Ha but from my understanding was crowning in a young pine forest.... quite dangerous really... and huge risk to the townships of glencoe, compton, etc...
? so whats the inside scoop from a local?
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ive heard gambiers a bit of a non event. everyones just gone mental coz its in a pine forest.
Hmm, spoken like someone who hasn't seen a going forest fire or has any knowledge of the potential of these incidents...
dude... fair enough if your sooo experienced...but wow... way to be condecending... turns out he was right mt gambier was a really long drive and a 24 hour day to basically mop up... biggest flame we saw we saved to boil the billy at about 530 this morning... so an apology might be in order...
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Well we got home from the gambier fire at 2330 hrs and our team worked well in trying to stop the spread from the east side into 3 year old pines. many times the fire broke out further up the line where wattle range and gambier group appliances where working.This fire only small in size around 250/300hcts of pine did have the potentaion to spread and spot into glencoe and compton. The wind just kept on blowing and at one stage I had wind speed at ground level at 30kmph but further up the hill it was more like 50/60.One thing I will say those firekings are worth there wait in gold. The region one strike time arrived about 2130 hours anhd where put onto the ground not sure what they would be doing as the area is very step and if anyone has been to a forest fire before will know that there are more hazards there than at a grass or scrub fire.... I did take some pictures and these will be posted on the CFSPROMO SITE. The 4 bombers did the best they could and some very windy and rough conditions....
hey mate... yeah from the looks of things it went scone hot!! you guys must have done a great job coz things were well contained and knocked down by the we got there... lots of smoking dirt and stumps for us to soak... HOW COOL ARE THOSE FIRE KINGS!!! hahaha im such a crank... till next time...
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The reason why most of us know about fires in different regions is because we have scanners that can pick up GRN voice traffic as well as bomber aircraft traffic on 132.550 Mhz (aircraft band)
you won't be able to pick up talkgroups from different regions, only local regional talkgroups and some state ones. This is where people streaming their scanners onto the internet from different locations around the state will be very useful.
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If your trunk tracker is in trunk mode it can only pick up regional & state talkgroups programmed but in open scan mode its able to pick up every piece of radio traffic around
Trunk Scan:Searches programmed data sites for GRN voice traffic
Open Scan: Scans every frequency freely and picks up any traffic weak or strong
:-D
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I'm not talking about what's programmed into your scanner but rather what traffic is carried on the GRN sites. If only your regional (and the state) talkgroups are on the GRN sites in your area then that's all you'll get.
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I'm not talking about what's programmed into your scanner but rather what traffic is carried on the GRN sites. If only your regional (and the state) talkgroups are on the GRN sites in your area then that's all you'll get.
True Darius but my scanner has both trunk & open scan capabilities meaning if im sick of missing out on conversations i can just turn off the trunking and leave it to run in free scan cause that way i'll be able to pick up any talkgroup or voice traffic cause its not searching through data sites
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From what im told the Mt Gambier fire was started by a Forestry SA Slasher (poor bugga)
and at the start they came within a hose length to controlling it until they ran short of hose and then the wind picked it up and sent it flying!
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From what im told the Mt Gambier fire was started by a Forestry SA Slasher (poor bugga)
That proves the rumour I heard :-D
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Yes Ryan and also Prevent Injury or Suppress Wildfire...I am well aware of what is required....there is nothing worse than taking probies interstate...too keen..too green.. :evil:
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What I get on GRN is constant screaching and locking on channels...and most of the time its Ambos and bus drivers convos..but I do get fire info..but its constant pressing the scan button........NO!! My scanner is not Trunk...its a Radioshack Pro 71 also can get access to UBC780XLT but its not currently programmed for Trunking and gets same screaching squelching noise
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True Darius but my scanner has both trunk & open scan capabilities meaning if im sick of missing out on conversations i can just turn off the trunking and leave it to run in free scan cause that way i'll be able to pick up any talkgroup or voice traffic cause its not searching through data sites
I don't think this is the place (or thread) to talk about scanning, probably the sa-scan group would be more appropriate so all I'll say is you should read up on how trunked radio networks operate (there's tons of info just google) and repeat "If only your regional (and the state) talkgroups are on the GRN sites in your area then that's all you'll get."
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With around 50 fires in VICTORIA all in the high country where CFS went almost 4 years ago I think you may see a call for help but who will go with still fires in our own back yard....its going to be a long hot summer and everyone will get a run....
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Not sure of the details but im told the GRN fell over at the start of the Burrungle (Mt Gambier) Fire. Bill do you know the details?
As for Interstate deployments. I think we can say that each state is on its own this year until someone has some substantial rain they can release trucks and firefighters. But going on current trends all our firefighters are going to be filtered by the end of January maybe even December.
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read somewhere that the CFA have pulled back their strike teams from NSW as well cause of the potential of these fires
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MT LOFTY GROUP: CREW REQUIRED FOR 2 DAY SHIFT AT WAIKERIE LEAVING 0500 TOMORROW 5/12/06. CONTACT CAPTAIN IF AVAILABLE. CAPTAINS CONTACT D.O. RAINER WITH NAMES
AT THIS RATE WE WONT HAVE TIME TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE... anyone on here going to waikerie?? or know any more than has been paged about it?? :? :-D :evil:
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Just got of the phone from my OLD CFA mate he tells me CFA have around 50 appliances interstate in NSW and they will review what to do as the fires in the high country are small at this stage but with hot north winds later this week anything could happen....Cam,as for the GRN going down yes there where some problems in the early part not sure why or what but more than likely over use of the system............
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A question for our MFS full time counterparts. Do you get paid if you go on an interstate deployment? If so do you go when you are rostered on for your 4 days? Or do you go voluntarily on your days off?
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they do get paid.
i wouldnt be able to tell you how it works around there shift structure though...
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they do get paid.
i wouldnt be able to tell you how it works around there shift structure though...
last time i went to NSW (2001) talking to the MFS guys they said they volunteered their time to go over and were'nt getting paid to do it.
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Well thats as clear as mud.lol
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Looking at the trouble the CFS is having now filling strike teams for 2+ days and interstate deployments they may need to find a new path to go down. I dont have any suggestions but at this time of year a lot of people are flat out at work and just cant take time off to go. Especially without pay. Not that money is everything but it helps.
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then abolish the 2 year experience rule so students can go, theyre at home or only casual so can go to thse call outs. The 2 year rule limits it majorly.
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the 2 year thing is there for a reason. Personally I think they're having trouble cos they're not organised. We got 1 "ask" to go to wakerie for a 2 day shift. I was keen to go but it wasn't convenient at the time they asked. Given it's been going for over a week now if they had asked for just about any other 2-day shift I would have gone.
Why not have each group offer a crew for X trucks for 2 days on dates (a), (b) and (c). Put that to region and they collate and choose teams from the groups and dates. I don't know about R3HQ but R1HQ has some major organising problems they need to fix and think a bit more flexibly (the day shift idea to KI was a good move so hopefully they are changing).
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they do get paid.
i wouldnt be able to tell you how it works around there shift structure though...
last time i went to NSW (2001) talking to the MFS guys they said they volunteered their time to go over and were'nt getting paid to do it.
speaking to one of the MFS guys in our brigade, they get paid normal rates but can only elect to go on their days off for extra cash
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the 2 year thing is there for a reason.
Which is?
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You need to have previous experiance to go into a potentially very dangerous situation in an are you dont know. Mind you, your two years 'experiance' is going to be very different depending on the number of jobs your brigade does a year.
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precisely, just doing BFF1 doesn't give you experience which is what you need especially for a strange/different terrain/vegetation/etc than you're used to. Of course 2 years in some brigades sends you to hundreds of jobs compared to maybe none in other brigades, but regardless there's got to be some minimum level for both your own safety and the safety of your crew (that you don't become a liability to them).
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Yes but it shouldnt be 2 years instead how bout a recommendation from captain instead. Some people might go having done 2 yars but done filtered all for 2 years compared to someone who has done a fair bit in 12-18 months.
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Yes but it shouldnt be 2 years instead how bout a recommendation from captain instead. Some people might go having done 2 years but done filtered all for 2 years compared to someone who has done a fair bit in 12-18 months.
Should be discretion of OIC,as many crews have under two years service but attended 150 incidents a year,which in my view is plenty of experience,also fitness should be considered as well :wink:
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should be based purely on skill, if your not a gun firey you no go.
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i thought it was based on craqnk factor????
and then they allocate crews by putting you with the three most annoying people they could find, that have all bought there banjos for a sing a long....
oh yer... and usualy an IC that has less experience than most cadets.
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I think the two years thing is absolute bull twang...It should be done purely on experience, or OIC's opinion. I have done 4 years with the cadets, but only 6 months as a FF, so can't go on strike teams. But according to their stupid rules you could get guys who have been inactive for the last who knows how long that get to jump straight on a truck.
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i thought it was based on craqnk factor????
and then they allocate crews by putting you with the three most annoying people they could find, that have all bought there banjos for a sing a long....
oh yer... and usualy an IC that has less experience than most cadets.
it depends.
On my last 3 day deployment to KI i reckon I got with the 3 of the best dudes out there (i could only think of 2 or so others who i'd be 100% happy to go with).
The crank fact or has to be high for an interstate trip, come on.
I disagree with the 2 years experience rule. As said on here, some people may be in a brigade for 10 years and only have been to 20 jobs or so. And so what if its a potentially dangerous situation we're going to: so is every other frickin fire and road crash we go to. I agree that it should be each brigade captains discretion who does/doesn't go.
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Well as reported in The Advertiser Euan has stated that we wont be going anytime soon due to the low numbers of volunteers here,and the risk this summer.
So unpack your swags everyone as the fire season aint finished yet :wink:
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Well as reported in The Advertiser ...
it must be true then!