hicksflat - that is a very interesting post
you still have explained very little behind the actual reasoning of the group and why they were so reluctant to issue it, other than paperwork. and judging by your post they have supposedly recieved there gloves and are now issuing it without the said paperwork anyway? so i guess the delay was pointless then, as the gloves only took a week after they got off there asses and sized firies up for them...
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you know for a fact that it offers a higher level of protection for the firies at structure jobs (which is its sole purpose in CFS)
do I?
the protection offered by PBI over nomex is superior in its ability to protect from radiant heat and also the firies gettin steamed... the gear also has a number of little nice bits n pieces that help to cover your filtered, including a collar that doesnt flip flop around and is actually high enough to cover your whole neck and thumb hooks to actually help protect your wrists properly!!! but you should know this as i get the impression that your a paid firie (or at least wish you were) and possibly wear it regularly.
short of walking around in some kind of futuristic bubble i am not sure what would protect you from a falling wall, or falling through the floor or off a ladder... so perhaps stop coming up with rubbish to try to make yourself sound intelligent as it just gives the opposite effect.
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All the group is doing is putting firies at more risk than necessary.
No the line is the same as it has ever been if you don't feel you have the equipment or training to do a task safely then don't do it. You can be injured and die in nomex you can be injured and die in PBI. There is a wide spectrum of risks many of them larger then externally generated heat.
firies are at more risk than necessary in nomex than PBI at structure fires. this point is obvious. whether you are inside a structure or just doign a surround and drown the gear offers a higher level of protection from the radiant heat, and also covers all parts of your body properly.
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also i am interested... why would a mt lofty firie be wearing his PBI to a strike team?
Who said it was a male? In this case both genders were involved.
Anyway you ask them. (and this was a strike team they sent to Mt Gambier) but you see them at other grass fires wearing it as was photographed by the Advertiser a few months back. Not that Lofty fire fighters are the only ones.
Have to admit i dont particularly care what the lofty group are doing and fail to see how much the efforts of the so called "MFS-wannabes" and posers really matters, as i have no interest in wearing it to any call other than structure related which is why it has been supplied.
Also I think you will find that business interest is a supplier of PBI gold as well
the business i believe you are referring to has nothing to do with PBI, nor did it get the CFS tender for flashhoods (i believe).... perhaps they are supplying the gloves to the group, i dont know.
Not rolling out PBI has not lead to the purchase of any extra nomex and never will
so the large stockpile of nomex came from where??? sure wasnt bought to go straight on any hooks at stations... id say it definitely lead to more nomex being bought
Also you could run the line that why is CFSHQ issuing proban grass fire uniforms when you would know for a fact nomex offers a "higher level of protection" to use your words. (I actually think CFSHQ may have back flipped on this and may go for nomex for grass fire uniforms as it wears better and therefor has lower life costs)
the nomex treatment may be superior to the Proban treatment, however the nomex gear in use currently by CFS does not conform to australian standards, whereas the proban does.
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not to worry though hicksflat - I'm actually in the process of a formal letter to region re the PBI
I hope you were going to asking them to provide the Sturt group with the simple documentation the group has been asking for, for the last 6 months or so.
actually it was gonna be more along the lines of why has my personal issue gear been sitting in the sturt store rooms for the past 4 or so months, please explain. the gear doesnt belong to the group in any way so why have they been holding onto it, the group store is just a central delivery point for LION apparel.
Well this issue is now dead
I fail to see how the issue is now dead...
@ ATH
The fact is this whole PBI topic is a fan boy issue. "I want it as the people who get paid and I urn to be wear it"
actualyl mate ATH does get paid to wear it.... but you know that cos your a long time reader first time poster? (or poser???)
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