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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: CFS_Firey on May 08, 2006, 11:26:50 PM
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I don't want start a 'mine is bigger than yours' thread, but I'm wondering who the busiest brigades in the CFS are...
From the promo website, the busiest I can find are: (from last year)
Dalkieth 459
Salisbury 421
Morphett Vale 347
Mount Barker 339
Stirling 325
Does someone have a handy list of who they are, or how the calls are distributed? There was some statistic floating around that only a few percent of brigades attend more than 200 calls a year...
[EDIT] Added Salisbury
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I think Salisbury are the biggest but I dont have time to find their stats at the moment.
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I think Salisbury did about 420 odd calls last year
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happy valley, hahndorf, strath, belair, aldinga beach and goolwa would be pretty high up there IMO
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And to open a can of worms again on this topic :-D are we counting stop calls :?
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i spose we should count the amount of calls according to CFS promotions. But then again there are brigades who get stop calls and private alarms as 80% of their calls (80% is a guesstimate)
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happy valley, hahndorf, strath, belair, aldinga beach and goolwa would be pretty high up there IMO
Happy/V bout 280, Handorf bout 120, Strath bout 90, Belair bout 160, Aldinga/B bout 140, (don't bash me i have a really freaky memory for numbers :oops:) at Goolwa last year we did 107 and have done 102 so far this year.
I think the over 300 brigades are Dalkeith, Salisbury, Morphett Vale, Mount Barker, and Stirling sorry if i missed anyone :-D
And CFS Firey go to CFS Promotions website and hit the find dtation website and you can bring up all CFS stations and their stats...
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Yeah, I've been doing that, but you have to know what stations to search for, you can't search by call stats ;)
I've added Salisbury to the list at the top... Does that mean Dalkieth is the busiest brigade in the CFS? They seems to keep quite a low profile...
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Thats cause they stole a McLoeds Daughters set piece :-P
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Just to add something fun to the mix:
"RED TRUCK CHASERS"
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Dalkeith / Sailsbury are generally the busiest brigades...
Tehnically stop calls were originally Call outs.. (E.G - validated a Response) - so yes, they should be counted..
(even if that does put some of the top brigades into the 150-200 mark :P )
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During last night's brigade meeting our captain updated all the attendees about progress which was being made on building the Penola Pulp Mill
According to what was said Kalangadoo might become a very busy brigade as mills like Carter Holt Harvey tend to have so many fires a year requiring CFS response in which case it might be the same story once this new pulp mill is established
However i have no doubt that the Penola Pulp Mill will have its own emergency response team (whoops i went way off topic :oops:)
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Well you have opened the can of worms,so make sure you count all calls,stop,tree down,cat up,dog over and the all the happy fixed alarm........
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Off topic even more, but do you guys generally put down what the incident was if its a stop call, or do you put "Did not Arrive". Eg, if you get responded to an MVA, but another brigade gets there first and puts a stop on you, will you put DNA or MVA on the AIRS report?
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Depends who fills in the paperwork,but I would say put donw details of job.
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if you dont arrive then your incident report should be for a "did not arrive/stop call"
anything that your pager goes off for/attend station for/whatever, whether the truck leaves stn, stays in stn or just doesnt get all the way there is an incident...
btw; i think the top three so far this year are salisbury, stirling, dalkeith... respectively.
other ones up there would be barker, morphett vale, happy, blackwood and seaford i would guess, there the usual front runners...
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Aldgate and Burnside are around the 200 odd mark.
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Aldgate and Burnside are around the 200 odd mark.
just to add i think salisbury is around the 320 mark and dalkeith about 260.(these figures may not be accurate)
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Off topic even more, but do you guys generally put down what the incident was if its a stop call, or do you put "Did not Arrive". Eg, if you get responded to an MVA, but another brigade gets there first and puts a stop on you, will you put DNA or MVA on the AIRS report?
If you read the AIRS sheet describing all incidents it says for stop call "Stop called for call in Primary Response area" sooo technically if you back up a brigade and stopped then you should put down what the actual incident was???
260 dor Dalkeith they must be enjoying being a bit quieter, the police must have locked up most of the arsonists this year.
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Aldgate and Burnside are around the 200 odd mark.
i recon there a bit closer to the 100 mark...
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Aldgate and Burnside are around the 200 odd mark.
i recon there a bit closer to the 100 mark...
per year I'm talking about
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ahh i stand corrected
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i think blackwood is about 160
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i think blackwood is about 160
Somewhere between there... 195 - 200 Calls
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as of today 10/05/06 at about 1800 salisbury is standing at 319 calls
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That's a lot of calls :|
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Burnside currently to date is about 160 i think. Last year ended up about 225 or so....
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Well at least it's almost too wet for all you hills brigades to be going to all the donkey's that can't control their burnoff's up there, last year seemed pretty ridiculous in may and june the amount of "Burnoff Out Of Control" calls were up there :-o
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Unfortunately, the "burnoff out of control" calls seem to have been replaced with MVA calls... Wet roads... ;)
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Naracoorte is up to 104 calls,little down on last year
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I heard littlehampton are in a slump this year. A while ago they were on like 90 calls when they normally get about 170
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A couple years ago they only used to get 60 a year, ahhh the joys of backing up Barker, it does wonders for your call stats. :-D
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yeah and doesn't it show! Do they also have much involvement with STC? I know they're not closest to there, but they're close enough. by involvement i mean taking a truck up there when a course is on etc.
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who knows??? that wouldnt be an incident anyway...
in all reality littlehampton dont really back barker up that much at all, watch the paging site, the only things in barkers primary that littlehampton get paged for are grassies (littlehampton tanker, or heysen BWC i guess only) and any structure fire that is called in as a school, commercial or factory...
barker do it all by themselves in there area...
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who knows??? that wouldnt be an incident anyway...
in all reality littlehampton dont really back barker up that much at all, watch the paging site, the only things in barkers primary that littlehampton get paged for are grassies (littlehampton tanker, or heysen BWC i guess only) and any structure fire that is called in as a school, commercial or factory...
barker do it all by themselves in there area...
LH are duel response for all structure fires & Grass Fires fires in Barker. last year they also responded to all fire alarms, hence the drop in calls this year.
LH only do about 25 - 30 primary calls a year.
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Yeh... thats what i said. do they go to all domestics?
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Robert34 i dont think your calls will go up that much, you may gothere 10 times in a year but it wont be hundreds...
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If mount barker did not respond to other brigade areas for dual turn out well there call's will come down.. But why is it that they only respond themself to alarms in their area but always have to dual respond to others area in the group?????
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Because if they can get two trucks out the door, there is no need for a second brigade to be responded.
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I agree with you on that statement Toast but bear in mind brigades do have trouble in getting crews for one appliance because most of their members are either at work or picking their kids up from school when the pager sounds
Kalangadoo learnt that lesson last monday when we were called to CHH Nangwarry and only 2 crew rocked up after the page was sent out with the Captain arriving a few mintues later
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Robert, don't forget that brigades differ in their ability to crew appliances. Mt. Barker can, 90% of the time, get two trucks out the door. If they can,t then they turn out the next brigade to get the second appliance responding if its needed
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you are 100% right Toast and it's because Mount Barker has more volunteers who can man the truck at all hours when available
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differant horses for differant courses...
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Robert how many jobs has the Group down their predicted for your brigade and will they be putting in for a pumper?
Mt Barker are like any other brigade if they don't turn out to a job they get defaulted. The reason Littlehampton get so many jobs a year is because the group officers invite the tanker to out of area jobs and heysen tanker is on automatic response for ANY rural incident during summer to boost their call rate.......
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There is no way that kalangadoo will get a pumper as there is one at Millicent,a 24p at Penola and at this stage the Mill may not be going ahead due to the community dont want it in there town...the best the brigade may get is a recon 34 or a new 34 but that is up to the group.....
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rescue5271 is right pumprescue due to our very low callout status were not really in the position to have a pumper plus fr0m what i have heard around the traps were getting a refurbished 34 in coming months
Should the new pulp mill be built and our brigade is still operational when that happens Kalangadoo 'might' get a 34P but until that happens we have to make use of the current 34 appliance
But the pulp mill might be like our Auspine mill and have their own emergency response team
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Seems like everythread makes its way back to Kalangadoo (Spelling).
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Heard that they might put a full time crew in K'doo!! :-D
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Were not in an MFS area Senior_ Firey70 but as i said in my pervious reply the pulp mill may have a emergency response team and if they do have one i'll be sure to get a job there maybe as part of their crew
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...oh god... :|
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and a 7 bay station
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"ill believe that when my shite turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert..."
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Well to tell the truth CFS are going to make Kalangadoo an air rescue brigdae,no fire applinaces just a little old rescue chopper once I complete making it out of the model :lol:
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Very funny rescue5271 :-P :lol:
Even though like i have before it may not happen yet but at moment the way were not getting any support from Kalangadoo township or members
joining our brigade Kalangadoo CFS may not be operational once the pulp mill is running in 2008/2009
From what my parents have heard & said is if Kalangadoo CFS goes into recession the Kalangadoo township will be crying because they dont have a local brigade to protect them
This will be squarely their fault for not wanting to support or join Kalangadoo CFS and thats a true fact :-)
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Seems like everythread makes its way back to Kalangadoo (Spelling).
queue banjos;
dada ding ding ding ding ding ding dee...
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There was a brigade in the same boat a few years ago. Somewhere around Strathalbyn in region 1. They had severe membership issues so they did a letterbox drop to the whole town, basically saying `we need you, if no-one joins, your CFS will be disbanded`. Suffice to say they had a poor response and the CFS folded. All their calls are now handled by nearby brigades. Not a great result but what can you do?
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thats true ath but if the current Kalangadoo CFS brigade goes in recession chances are it will arise from the ashes as a much better brigade with lots of members
Who knows if the Kalangadoo CFS is reborn after recession i might end up being the captain :lol:
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Dont mean to be rude but i believe this thread was just about busy brigade call numbers, not a soapbox for brigades with no members....
sorry but im just fed up with hearing it in every thread i read...
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We need a dedicated Kalangadoo thread.
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Dont mean to be rude but i believe this thread was just about busy brigade call numbers, not a soapbox for brigades with no members....
sorry but im just fed up with hearing it in every thread i read...
But it's KALANGADOO!
Second only to Station 20
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I think the thread has spoken ;) and I couldnt agree more....
3 call to make it to 100 for the year!!!! that'll be a first for us!!! (feels wrong being excited abouted getting MORE calls)
Knowing our luck we'll make it to 99 :roll:
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luv ya work Toast
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Knowing our luck we'll make it to 99 :roll:
Burn your toast and call the fire service ;)
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In reality we only do about 5 calls a year... we just pad it out with MFA's to attempt to get more funding :-P
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Knowing our luck we'll make it to 99 :roll:
Burn your toast and call the fire service ;)
A few years back twice in a row we got to 99 with around two weeks left and do you think we could get that 1 call, Nope, i can say though i think a few members were tempted to do something for the extra call but thankfully sanity prevailed.
But last year we got there and been there done that this year, but Mike trust me it's an anti-climax :roll:
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hah - were sitting on 93 at the mo'
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where now on 112
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Maybe you should have a celebration once your brigade reaches 100 callouts medevac :-D
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HAH cant wait... hopefully we'll make it this year... we usually get to around 97ish then stop lol...
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Buy some lucky charms and stick them on your pager and in the truck
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In Victoria the have awards for members who reach,500,700 and 1000 calls in some CFS brigade's may be we can all do that..
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One of our newer members went away to Brukunga for a course and came back saying there were two blokes wandering around with 500-club t-shirts on and looked a bit silly but this might be a way a brigade celebrates for it's members reaching this milestone???
There would have to be a few long serving members in busy brigades that must be close to the 3000-club :-o :-P
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Funny that.
There'd be three guys in my brigade that could wear the 500 shirt I reckon. As for the captain...I honestly reckon he'd be pushin 750 jobs. Thats a rough guess but I wouldn't doubt it if a number like that came up!
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wouldn't surprise me of your captain had done more than that probie_boy... He's been a member for long enough... is there anything he isn't trained in?
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Compton (Gambier Group) although not as busy as the hills brigades etc, we are looking at about 50 calls this year up from 40 last year.
Although Yahl & Moorak may push the 60 barrier thanks to some persistant fire alarms!
considering we are only rural brigades with some EMA work our group has been very busy this year and seems to be getting busier.
Had two house fires within a week of each other where normally we would be lucky to see two in two years.
Camo
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wouldn't surprise me of your captain had done more than that probie_boy... He's been a member for long enough... is there anything he isn't trained in?
Yeah, now I think about it, he'd probably be over 1000.
Yeah, I don't think that theres any course he hasn't done either!
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I know Happy Valley have an individual 1000 call award which a lot of their guys have got.
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Who keeps count? Its a good idea though - recognizing individuals input..
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We have an award at the end of year for most calls( we call it get a life award)
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LOL :lol:
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98.... ** twiddled thumbs and whistles** :roll: :wink:
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I think were on about 280 ish at the moment.
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98.... ** twiddled thumbs and whistles** :roll: :wink:
You know mike for a few $$ that 100 calls could be arranged.... :evil: :lol:
KIDDING, for all the serious folk ou there 8-)
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Sitting near/around the 260 mark...
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42 baby, yeah! :roll:
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mmm yeah, weve been sitting on 93 for quite a while now, i dont think were gonna bust that triple figure mark... :roll:
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I think i've said this to someone else medevac you might as wel purchase some lucky charm and whack 1 in your main response appliance and tie the other to your pager
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Are you on drugs ?
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no striker im not :lol:
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he's expressssssing himseeeeeelf freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeely thorugh unviolent waaaaaaaaaaaaays maaaaaaaaaaan. Peeeace to the lucky chaaaaaaaaarm duuuuuuuuuuuuuude from kalaaaaaaaaaaaangadoooooo maaaaaaaaan. :mrgreen:
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nah, im wuite happy to be quiet robert, means everyones not out there hurting themselves, or getting there property destroyed, its just nice to whack that 100mark every few years.
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I would love to see my brigade reach the 100 callout mark but its not likely to happen :-)
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I think its kinda sick that your wishing more call outs on your brigade....sure if your nearly at 100 then yeah then milestone would be cool but wanting your brigade to get more call outs really is weird!
Camo
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It really isnt that sick, everyone wants some action.
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Our call out went up by one tonight as there was a fire at our place in the chimney....
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Yeah Bill its embarrasing when you have to call your own brigade to your house. I had to do it when I was still a cadet at Barker for guess what, a chimney fire too. lol
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About 5 years ago i answered the fire phone at the station and it was our next door neighbour calling in a shed fire at my house, i just about fell over but luckily was just our other neighbour burning off. lol jeez it was funny afterwards though :lol: :-o
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I think we up to 469 calls :-D
Any wonder I feel tired :wink:
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Doesn't that little black thing just annoy the scheiße out of you sometimes? going off that often?
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well... I think we cracked it last night (i slept through the pager - must have been tired!) apparently it went off twice, or so the other half says anyway. lol. Good ol' fixed alarms....
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We where paged for a fixed alarm this morning,i spent more time getting the ice of my car than what I did driving to the station.....
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have had to call the services numerous times myself for VAs right outside my house, first one actually came through the fence and ended up on its roof just centimetres from the lounge room my parents had been sitting in, and a couple of rollovers right on the corner we live on as well as cars into the creek, aaah good times.
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oh, you live on THAT corner
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theres a couple of those kinds of corners in my area... im on a t-intersection/corner...
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I think we up to 469 calls :-D
Any wonder I feel tired :wink:
Heard you guys had a bit of action at the Mill fire. (What was the result?)
And a couple more callouts during the day..
Busy times..
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Apologies slightly off topic... I've noticed lately Murray/B MFS have been having some serious crewing issues, on the weekend they were responded to a kitchen fire and it took them around 10mins to request more crew for first appliance and around 14-15mins to get CFS responded and then this morning it was a rubbish fire and it took i think 15-20 minutes to default to CFS again.
This is a pretty serious issue, if we can't raise a crew in the CFS within 8-9mins the bulk of us would have turned out another brigade but why is it that retained MFS get so much longer???
Is it left up to the local station as to whether they respond other resources or does Adelaide fire handle that??
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ego? pride?
believe its the same as CFS, we acknowledge the call with MFS or SOCC then its on that persons head to ensure the trucks get out the doors.
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Thats BS if thats occuring...
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Yep Strikeathird,
Was quite a busy day.
It's strange sometimes how all the action can happen at the same time or 24 hour period!
Regards, Mat
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Also in reply to Mundcfs comment about the "little black thing" annoying the hell out of you, it's obviously gone off way to many times in our household as we have a Rainbow Lorikeet as a pet that can perfectly mimic tone 1 AND tone 7.
Really great when she does a pager "test" of her very own! :-D
Regards, Mat
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Thats amazing Senior Fiery70 as my pet galah only goes nuts when the dog barks
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Maybe your Galah's from the country :-P :lol:
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hmm. yeah i pranked a non CFS friend with the response tone via voice record at 2am. hahaha. He had no idea what it was!he deserved it!
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04-05 Statistics for "busiest brigades"
Dalkeith Total Incidents for 2004-05 459
Assist Other Agencies 2
Building Fire 34
Combustible / Flammable leak 11
Cover Assignment 1
Did Not Arrive (Stop Call) 25
Dump 1
Equipment Malfunction (CFS) 3
Fixed Alarm Fault 16
Flood 5
Good Intent Call 5
Grain / Crop Fire 2
Grass or Stubble Fire 102
Haystack 1
Hazardous Material 5
Heat Related and Electrical 3
Investigation (Burnoff) 3
Investigation (Smoke) 9
Malicious False Alarm 6
Mobile Property / Vehicle 52
Other (Specify in notes box below) 7
Private Alarm 5
Rubbish Bin 11
Rubbish Fire 31
Scrub and Grass Fire 26
Tree Down 1
Tree Fire 7
Vehicle Accident / No Injury 20
Vehicle Accident Rescue 24
Vehicle Accident With Injuries 40
Water and Smoke 1
Salisbury Statistics for 2004-05 - 421 Responses
Animal Rescue 1
Assist Other Agencies 1
Brush Fence 1
Building Fire 51
Combustible / Flammable leak 5
Cover Assignment 5
Did Not Arrive (Stop Call) 7
Dump 3
Extrication/Rescue(not vehicle) 3
Fixed Alarm Fault 21
Flood 8
Good Intent Call 4
Grain / Crop Fire 1
Grass or Stubble Fire 59
Hazardous Material 1
Investigation (Burnoff) 6
Investigation (Smoke) 14
Malicious False Alarm 2
Mobile Property / Vehicle 52
Other (Specify in notes box below) 7
Private Alarm 20
Rubbish Bin 6
Rubbish Fire 23
Scrub and Grass Fire 22
Severe Weather and Natural Disaster 1
Tree Down 22
Tree Fire 4
Vehicle Accident / No Injury 30
Vehicle Accident Rescue 12
Vehicle Accident With Injuries 29
Morphett Vale Statistics for 2004-05 - 347 Responses
Animal Rescue 1
Assist Other Agencies 1
Building Fire 26
Combustible / Flammable leak 12
Did Not Arrive (Stop Call) 22
Equipment Malfunction (CFS) 1
Explosion 1
Extrication/Rescue(not vehicle) 1
Fixed Alarm Fault 41
Flood 7
Good Intent Call 16
Grass or Stubble Fire 25
Hazardous Material 2
Heat Related and Electrical 5
Investigation (Smoke) 13
Malicious False Alarm 4
Mobile Property / Vehicle 34
Other (Specify in notes box below) 7
Private Alarm 27
Rubbish Bin 4
Rubbish Fire 24
Scrub and Grass Fire 18
Severe Weather and Natural Disaster 13
Tree Fire 4
Vehicle Accident / No Injury 12
Vehicle Accident Rescue 7
Vehicle Accident With Injuries 19
Mount Barker Statistics for 2004-05 - 339 Responses
Animal Rescue 4
Assist Other Agencies 2
Brush Fence 1
Building Fire 18
Combustible / Flammable leak 5
Cover Assignment 1
Did Not Arrive (Stop Call) 3
Equipment Malfunction (CFS) 3
Extrication/Rescue(not vehicle) 1
Fixed Alarm Fault 51
Flood 8
Good Intent Call 7
Grass or Stubble Fire 15
Hazardous Material 2
Investigation (Burnoff) 9
Investigation (Smoke) 13
Malicious False Alarm 5
Mobile Property / Vehicle 16
Other (Specify in notes box below) 5
Private Alarm 28
Rubbish Fire 16
Scrub and Grass Fire 32
Severe Weather and Natural Disaster 1
Tree Down 8
Vehicle Accident / No Injury 37
Vehicle Accident Rescue 10
Vehicle Accident With Injuries 36
Water / Ice Related Rescue 1
Water and Smoke 1
Stirling Statistics for 2004-05 - 325 Responses
Animal Rescue 2
Assist Other Agencies 2
Building Fire 12
Combustible / Flammable leak 3
Cover Assignment 2
Did Not Arrive (Stop Call) 11
Explosion 1
Extrication/Rescue(not vehicle) 2
Fixed Alarm Fault 33
Flood 3
Good Intent Call 6
Grain / Crop Fire 1
Grass or Stubble Fire 15
Hazardous Material 4
Heat Related and Electrical 1
Investigation (Burnoff) 4
Investigation (Smoke) 13
Malicious False Alarm 1
Mobile Property / Vehicle 22
Other (Specify in notes box below) 2
Private Alarm 32
Rubbish Bin 2
Rubbish Fire 16
Scrub and Grass Fire 20
Tree Down 8
Tree Fire 6
Vehicle Accident / No Injury 45
Vehicle Accident Rescue 14
Vehicle Accident With Injuries 42
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thanks assistant...we all knew that anyway :roll: :wink:
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^^ I didn't..
:roll:
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touche
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There is some serious call numbers!
I wasn't aware that some of those stations pulled so many calls. :-o
We hit our 500 the other night. :-)
Regards, Mat
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Yeah cheers TheAssistant... out of curiosity, whats a 'dump'? Salisbury and Dalkieth both responded to a few of them... :|
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numbers twos....
i mean a (rubbish) dump fire.
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numbers twos....
Too much chilli last night :evil:
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From the stats above, what is a 'good intent' tasking ? :?
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conducting burn off's for people (?)
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A "Good intent call" Is when someone calls in a false alarm with good intentions, as opposed to bad intentions (Malicious False Alarm). For example, if a neighbour calls in a cat up a tree, but when we get there the owner tells us its the cats favourite sitting spot, and it comes down at night... ;)
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conducting burn off's for people (?)
That wouldnt be a call...
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conducting burn off's for people (?)
that would be entered on an "other activity form" P F
as was stated good intent call, is purely a false alarm that was called inwith "good intentions..."
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okay doke, thought it meant doing something nice (good intentions towards the community)
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If you look at some of the figures some brigades go to more tree downs than anyting else,may be they could become tree rescue brigade's :lol: But really how many brigade's do you send to a tree down?? I have looked over the years at some figure's and have seen up to 4 brigade's go to tree downs as it is on there brigade boundary, What a waste of time and mann power if one or two brigade's are going is there any need to send two more just because its on the boundary????
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maybe the brigades arent able to handle it by themselves...
you see the same thing everywhere for all sorts of jobs.
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or they just want to get there call numbers up,more calls more money....
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ahh dear...
im not quite sure what you mean, as its early and ive had a long night so ill cover both bases;
as a member from a brigade that puts in a report for every adress attended during 'storm nights', i would say they are covering there asses and providing evidence that the fire service actually attended.
re; multiple brigades attending, whats wrong with that? some brigades get ansty about jobs in there area going to the wrong brigade... i dont see an issue if everyone is happy to attend, although it can seem a bit ridiculous...
"im on scene at this tree down... strike out a third alarm."
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Crank :-D
Third alarm tree down.. That would be hillarious !!
(and a heap of chainsaws :evil: )
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Completely off topic, but in the CFS do we say "strike out a third alarm" or "upgrade to a third alarm"? people seem to say 'strike out' a lot here, but I've never heard it over the radio... :?
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Dunno but I think "strike out a third alarm" is being taken from when Jonny Travolta says it in Ladder 49.
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Completely off topic, but in the CFS do we say "strike out a third alarm" or "upgrade to a third alarm"? people seem to say 'strike out' a lot here, but I've never heard it over the radio...
Generally CFS use "Upgrade to a second alarm". MFS and the crankier CFS brigades like to use "Transmit second alarm" and the real cranks use "Transmit the box".
"Strike out a third alarm" would be from the FDNY - I challenge someone to use that one on the GRN.
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Challenge accepted. Come give me a third alarm and I will use it.
(Note. I do not condone you or any other person starting a third alarm fire for this challenge.) :-P
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"Transmit the box".
hmmm that wouldnt work out too well in the CFS...
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Transmit the Panel...
lol..
Yea, unlike the states we dont have 'Box' assignments....
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04-05 Statistics for "busiest brigades"
Mount Barker Statistics for 2004-05 - 339 Responses
Water / Ice Related Rescue 1
Anyone know what this job was about? There isnt much water in the Mt Barker area, unless someone fell into the septic ponds :evil:
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dont forget the lake near the cinemas....
no idea though.....
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Completely off topic, but in the CFS do we say "strike out a third alarm" or "upgrade to a third alarm"? people seem to say 'strike out' a lot here, but I've never heard it over the radio... :?
i was just ripping off striker's thing...
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04-05 Statistics for "busiest brigades"
Mount Barker Statistics for 2004-05 - 339 Responses
Water / Ice Related Rescue 1
Anyone know what this job was about? There isnt much water in the Mt Barker area, unless someone fell into the septic ponds :evil:
could be anything really...
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Note my signature and username :)
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My bet is if we said "Upgrade to a second alarm" most people would be like wuh?
Its more like "we need more trucks now!"
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mmm well second/third alarm responses are defined by SOPs so shouldnt be a prob...
rural - 2 more appliances
TFB day rural - 4 more appliance, go/dgo/gdo
structure - 2 more appliances (1 CABA)
rescue - 1 more fire, 1 more rescue, go/dgo/gdo
hazmat - 2 more fire, 1 more hazmat, state hazmat, hazmat/cbr officer
vehicle fire - 2 more appliance (1 CABA)
i reckon ive posted that somewhere else before....
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Yeah, everyone should know what the alarm upgrades are...
Mind you, its lucky we only go Inital/1st/2nd/3rd/4th alarm. The poor yanks just keep going
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hah - imagine trying to coordinate something like that... rip your hair out quickly...
would be interesting to see how the upgrades work though, meaning the additional appliances for alarms...
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Me like CFA system better,make pumper or make tankers 4,its easy and simple and so much faster as you ask for what you want...
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But how is, "Upgrade, 2nd Alarm" *not* easy? It gets all appropriate rescources responded as necessary. Plus, everything can use the alarm system. Hazmats, RCR, fires, they can all use the upgrading.
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A recent fire in melbourne a MFB OIC stated that the fire was a 7th alarm, what the???
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We (CFS) stop at 4th alarm, others do not. More alarms, more trucks. Somewhere I heard that the 99th/100th alarm was struck for the Twin towers in NY, but I'm not 110% sure thats the truth.
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I was always under the impression we had 6 alarms...
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, Send Help Its Terrible, and Send Help Its Frightfully Terrible...... (read the acronyms) ;) :-D
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That was a huge fire though. Chemical factory inferno, 100 firefighters battling it and there was a tank of flammable liquid in a precerious position.
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MFB in melb goes up to a 9th alarm,which is a state responce has been used a few times over the past 10 years for large chemical fire's
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Didnt NSWRFS use a 4th alarm during the NSW bushfires as CFS went over to assist or is there another alarm beyond 4 alarms :?
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We (CFS) stop at 4th alarm, others do not. More alarms, more trucks. Somewhere I heard that the 99th/100th alarm was struck for the Twin towers in NY, but I'm not 110% sure thats the truth.
No.
Each tower went 5th alarm... *EACH*
Effectively having a 10th alarm response.
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We (CFS) stop at 4th alarm, others do not. More alarms, more trucks. Somewhere I heard that the 99th/100th alarm was struck for the Twin towers in NY, but I'm not 110% sure thats the truth.
No.
Each tower went 5th alarm... *EACH*
Effectively having a 10th alarm response.
Yeah, suspected that was more like it. Good old silly news reports.
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anyone know how the4 MFS alarm system works???
i know the mitcham shopping centere was a 4A... and know the basics of 1A and 2A;s but would be interesting to see an actual document, that specified responses for A, B and C class multipel alarm responses...
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anyone know how the4 MFS alarm system works???
i know the mitcham shopping centere was a 4A... and know the basics of 1A and 2A;s but would be interesting to see an actual document, that specified responses for A, B and C class multipel alarm responses...
Yea, i think that is the crucial thing, the document / set risk and alarm response.. Every risk in the MFS area is given a set response, confirmed fire response, and upgrade response, so it would come down to the individual building as to what the upgrade would consist of..
Im not sure if this information is accessable.. I would presume, and hope, that its not open to the public.
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Why would you hope its not open to the public?
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Cause fire horny arsonists might find out and try and get the most flashing lights they can.
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If they want more flashy lights, they just light a bigger fire.... I doubt they would go to the effort of researching what building gets the highest response.... Lets face it, arsonists aren't that smart are they? :P
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you calling me dumb, i mean of course they are! :-P
JOKE
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"fire horny" eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuwww.......
i hear theres a cream for that.
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A 4A response in Adelaide is almost the whole Adelaide Fleet isnt it?
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A 4 Alarm response to a multistory high rise would be nearly the whole of SAMFS for the metro areas....
Including CFS response, and CFS COQ...
And to answer the Q cfs_firery... If you know who is coming, and from where.. Wouldn't you plan to light somethign in or around that area at the same time to reduce resources??
You are kidding yourself if you think some of these sick bast ards aren't smart !
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If i remember correctly the Response for Kimberley Clark Australia @ Millicent is
1A = Millicent, Tantanoola & SAMFS (Mt Gambier) (Millicent have a Type 2 Pumper)
2A = Wattle Range Group Response - Mt Burr, Glencoe, Penola (maybe one or two more) (Penola have a 24P)
3A = Strike Teams From Gambier & Naracoorte Groups (Naracoorte have a Pumper)
4A = Regional Response (Robe & Lucindale have 24P's)
Just thought i would share a response plan from outside the city.
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DONT POST AT STUPID O'CLOCK
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camo,have never seen the mfs paged there as its always group first then strike team....
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Are the letters not just showing the risk class? Eg: 1st alarm, B risk fire would be 1B. Etc? All response pages for the MFS, only state the alarm number, not any letters.
when we are saying A here i personally was just abbreviating alarm...
but yes, the responses to upgrading alarms of differant class would be differant...
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A 4 Alarm response to a multistory high rise would be nearly the whole of SAMFS for the metro areas....
Including CFS response, and CFS COQ...
And to answer the Q cfs_firery... If you know who is coming, and from where.. Wouldn't you plan to light somethign in or around that area at the same time to reduce resources??
You are kidding yourself if you think some of these sick bast ards aren't smart !
when you think about it, MFS rely very heavily on CFS to be there should the scheiße hit the fan...
they seem to me to be a very undermanned and undergunned fire service...
never the less id love to be a MEt...
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camo,have never seen the mfs paged there as its always group first then strike team....
Whether they do or not im not sure...but was shown the response plan at my level 3 last year and they were on the 1st alarm list.
Camo
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geez medevac you filtered MFS wannabe! :x
Only joking people, dont go nuts!!!!! :-P
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Bear in mind Camo Kimberley Clark Australia's emergency response team would be first to respond followed by Millicent,Tantanoola,SAMFS if requried brigades from Gambier,Wattle Range,Naracoorte and Lucindale groups
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They are probably like the response team at the old Pt Stanvac oil refinery they are there for OH&S but can't really do much...
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the mcleouds daughters peice was a gift from the cast and crew. All signed aswell
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There a lots of emergency response teams at major industrial sites around Australia for example
Auspine Limited
Kimberly Clark Australia
Carter Holt Harvey
Green Triangle Forest Products Sawmill
Olympic Dam
Port Stanvac
Portland Aluminum
All of these above have emergency response teams who respond to fire & accidents on their industrial worksite under the OHS&W policy
When the Penola pulp mill is up and running in a couple years time i dare say that they will have a emergency response team as well
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How is the new truck going rob?
I saw a new Kalangadoo 34, and i saw a old Kalangadoo 34 today and yesterday..... Looked pretty good.
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So, getting back on topic, how busy have peoples brigades been this year?
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I got a glimpse of the inside of our new truck last night and it has alot more leg room as there is a 3 shelf metal cupboard in between the seats where siren,intercom & portable radios are gonna be house
I wonder what is gonna happen to our old 34 Appliance maybe it will be converted into a tanker :-)
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Naracoorte has been flat out in the past week I think we are around 136 jobs.....Robert as for your old 34 I would say it will be sold at the government auctions once they remove items and give it a cut and polish.....
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I think were up to 114 this year, busiest one yet but been to alot more prangs and the filtered nursing home this year.
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think we've got to ~115.... will have to go check!
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I wonder what is gonna happen to our old 34 Appliance maybe it will be converted into a tanker :-)
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it will likely meet its new friend, the car crusher
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Compton has had 52 calls this year 6 calls up on our previous record.
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I think we are sitting on 139, up a few calls from last year.
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Well, bang on 325, two years in a row :D
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Ended up with 367
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When will CFS crack the 500 mark for a brigade i wonder.... :roll:
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When will CFS crack the 500 mark for a brigade i wonder.... :roll:
Dalkieth got reasonabaly close last year about 459?
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well.... 99 for the year. doeant that suck :wink:
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Oh well you get that medevac....
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maybe next time... its been a few years since we cracked the 100 mark
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Slow year only 88
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a quiet year for us too. oh well, its good in a way i guess...
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I'd be suggesting that you guys at Littlehampton and Mt. Barker would be expecting a few more calls, due to thing like the large housing estates going in around the place?
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Its funny it is not that way, Littlehampton peaked at around 180 two years back but now we are getting less and less or actual calls, but more and more alarms. But as they say there is not pattern to it all.
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How busy a brigade is also depends on the demographic of the community.... Things such as average age of the community, income status things like that.
Our town is made up of more older people than younger ones and they tend to be more responsible etc etc..
I mean no offence to anyone living in the following areas but if you put the northern suburbs demographic of people in to say, Burnside then Burnsides call out rate would probably increase by maybe 50%.
I don't know if anyone could follow that but thats what i believe has a big effect on how busy some areas are to others.
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people who think fixed or private alarms are stupid really need to have a better understanding of how alarms work.When an alarm goes off it does it for a reason and that can be human or mechanical and all alarms should be treated as a genuine call until its proven to be false alarm. just because your call rate's have dropped does not mean people are being safer on the road it just means in your area there are more police and more media coverage of what goes on....