SA Firefighter

I'm sure you've all heard by now...
London Terror Attack, 6 seperate seemingly well planned and well organised attacks on seperate public transport (soft) targets.

Current estimate on news was 45 dead and up to 1000 injured.

I think the London Emergency response looked well organised but manic as expected.

My thought go out to them all.

Could we deal with something as big? I don't what to think about it know, but will ponder it later.

Has Virginia got their new 34P? If so what are their thoughts? Any photos?

Pump on the Louisville is the same as on Belairs, a Darley JMP 450 GPM (2 Stage for Volume or Pressure), Type 2 comes with a Rosenbauer Multistage (3 Stage) 750 GPM pump which should be able to simultaneously pump pressure and volume! On paper it should almost be twice the pump!

Seagraves... Too big, to square and slow take off! I think a new Dennis Sabre would out perform, out pump and out manevour it any day! I've heard that when the Dennis come of the production line you can leave rubber on the road with all it's torque! I'm sure some will find all the firgures and stats between them, I just want to antagonise a little!

I was there when a 'heave ho' happened in the BA mask, was 10 years ago, but I still have a chuckle about it

I like the look of the vehicle, and don't mind the rear mount PTO.
Steve, just a few quick questions from me!

Does the Pump have 4 inlets (64mm) + 100 suction and 4 outlets?

Hard to judge in the photos, but on the passenger/officer side of the appliance at the front of the lockering is that a direct inlet to tank for filling?

Does it have a monitor?

When's it going on line?

Hope you guy's like it!

I heard it was used last week for a horse (ney!) recovery last week at Williamstown

After reading through a few articles I have found that a NZ university has done quite an extensive trial comparing CAFS, Class A foam and Water in controlled structural burns for a study and the findings were reasonable non conclusive. In saying that it was noted that CAFS offered better cooling in most situations, which I found interesting as I thought CAFS would extinguish, but not offer that water run off which I think would cool better.

I would like to see some trials done with this technology as there are a few CAFS unit popping up now, most are for rural appliance (Beliar 14, Bradbury 14 and Morph Vale 14), but the Blackwood set might prove its worth with a trial. The concern I have is that CAFS is more efficient with a Smooth Bore Nozzle offering a jet/stream of CAFS, but powercone and fan pattern offer somewhat better firefighter protection.

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has come across and information or studies comparing CAFS and Compartment Fire Behaviour Techniques? I've looked through the Fire Tactics page and found nothing really descript about CAFS. If any of you have had experiences with both please let me know!

Cheers

Not really sure Bill. I think that the CFS has to go away for prototype appliances and stick to what is available 'off the shelf' now. It seems a bit like everytime a new appliance is required for the CFS we need to reinvent the wheel. Time to just look around at what other services use and see whether it's appropriate for our use.

I think that CFS is now recognising that each region has differing needs and equipment may in the future be region specific. Say in Region 3 and 5 water supply is a constant concern then the majority of appliance may end up being 34's or bigger, where in Region 1 and 2 there is a need for some smaller appliances for the hills trails and a more significant urban interface leading to different appliances in thoses area. Hopefully it will produce a more relative and common sense system instead of a one size fits all system which we've seen in the past

Now I think this is a touchy subject, and possibly very damaging to the CFS and VFBA. For equity to exist in any organisation it need to firstly recognise it's shortcomings as an organisation, whether it's a volunteer emergency service or a multinational billion dollar company, in the areas of culture, gender, ethics, race, sexuality, and diversity. This should take place as a proactive procedure, not reactive or presumptuous. (That sound almost political in tone doesn't it?)

My believes as follows: 'If' the CFS/MFS has an appropriate code of conduct for its employees (including volunteers) it should cover all aspects of equity for gender, race, culture and creed in its mandate. Having stuctures in place like 'women in the cfs' may have benefit immediate needs of recognition of this group, but from an external point of few the fact that this group exist may mean to people that problems of gender exist, which I don't believe is the case!

I will stand infront, behind, next to any of my piers in the CFS regardless of there culture, gender, race, ethnisity, sexuality, believes because I believe we share some things in common. They are that we wear our uniform to protect our communities, friends and family in times of crisis, and that we do it without thanks, at all times and in all conditions.

Harassment  in the volunteer setting is a whole other topic and is rife through many organisations and dare I say probably in the CFS is certain areas

I agree the season should be continued until we have sufficient rain to give some green undergrowth! I might add a poll...