SA Firefighter

The sooner that the initial CRD function is undertaken by an independent party the better. A body or group who is under a performance contract with penalty clauses etc to ensure correct performace, each and every time!

Better than the fiasco of having people who either don't want to or have to due to incopacity undertaking the initial CRD function.

Interesting SAAS and an internal review process for ever dispatch where an issue is raised and they do have mechanisms to manage the staff and ensure such occurrences don't occur again - if this was mirrored elsewehere there would be a lot of unemployed people!

The joint ESO's are working with Government to have the sped limit reduced to 25 kh/h past any emeregency services vehicle on a road way with beacons operating - ahhhh that will be nice to see and a little more uniformed when we already have 25 km/h for other things!

And when did CFS have verticle instructors??

To the best of my knowledge the original verticle training to some CFS brigades was by SES, then other have used a private provider - who, of course wil only promote the system they use - i.e. twin line.

Seach the net and you will see O/S where there are specialist teams for verticle resuce, who undertake many resuces each year, that use single line resuce. Twin line in SA has been introduced by a private provider and through their association with MFS.

Technically - cave resuce is classified as a confioned space rescue. IN SA - SAPOL STAR and SES (Noarlunga and Whyalla) have trained, accredited and equiped teams for this. I believe there are also limited trained persons within MFS.

As we all know thought, there are many different style of caves - open, sink holes, verticle, horizontel and then those filled with H2O.

Guss in first instance a verticle team from SES, SAPOL or CFS could begin, however if in a hazardous environment or confined then a specialist team would be required.

Maybe if we printed all the forums this discussion has occured in, we could use the paper weight.... to fix the problem 

From what I have seen in various parts of the state - what ever they arrive at the station in!!!!!!!

Much like CFS - how many of us get changed before attending the station?

Blinky - KI is like Ngarkat - burns every year, we have debriefs every year and each year we get some things improved - slow wheel to improvement.

Interesting though - we go to NSW and Vic and seam to get most of it right, but can't in our own back yard - go figure???

If i flew cropdusters for a living i'd certainly wouldnt bag the CFS for failing to page me to every big fire as i would be putting my name down for the bombing contract well before the fire season even starts   

One lonley crop duster would not even scratch the surface of the CFS contract.

Need to bear in mind that the agricultural aircraft that CFS use, are converted during summer, specifically for fire fighting operations - the sprays are removed and special computer controlled bomber doors fitted - most ag sprayers don't have these, not the money to invest in them.

I say congrats to our bomber pilots and to AMR (the contractor) for the excellent work they have done and do for us and the state - they do things and go places that most pilots would never dream of doing and they are committed to helping us and making our lives easier - not just geting good $$$$$

An alarm call doesn't worry me so much, esp during working hours, but reports of fire is another matter entirely. BTW the request for CFS not to go to alarms in MFS area came from our CFS management, not from the MFS.

Well and truely aware that the request came form CFS, and rightly so when a large % of MFS work is instilations - the issue here though, is the time delay and anyone can se that in this instance lack of action was negligent!

Easy really - communicate what is vital and requires transmittion - the extra and background can wait until later.

Pip agreed - codes while good if you use them all day everyday, are not so good when used infrequently!

Fantastic effort to Laura SES - Well done.

Great to see a Volunteer team win, Great to see a SA team win and most of all great recognition that each day there are people out there who Volunteer their time to saving their community and they are amongst the best in the World.

Yes CFS should have one - we have access to places normally we wouldn't, we see people i their time or need - or at their worst and YES people like to talk over a beer and tell war stories - most keep exact locations and names out but some dont - which discredits the individual, the brigade and the service

Activity based Funding - allocation of budgets on incidents attended, specialist roles undertaken etc.

I gues budget modeling needs to start somewhere and more importantly, being public money the process needs to be somewhat transperant with all levels accountable - otherwise there would be people running around buying toys and gadgets, because they can, not because they need them