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I understand this may rise up again as CFS Budget is rumoured to be getting cut by up to 25% & this comes from a very good source!
MFS: *CFSRES INC026 10/04/10 11:24,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,177 GLEN OSMOND RD,FREWVILLE MAP 131 B 5 TG182,CAR INTO FOODLAND. VEHICLE NOW IN FRUIT,AND VEG SECTION. NO PERSONS TRAPPED.,EAS020 ADL204 GLO441
Vehicles these days seem not happy enough to just hit the wall and sit still....nup...they have to go in about 10-20 metres into the building
well i can honsly say from exsperances. than it can also be 000 falt. i being exsperanced fire fighter had a car accedent involving work car and moterhome bus. not fun but hay rang 000 ask for polices and fire. get pached thow to local sapol "ok will send them out" 10 min later no sapol no fire respons being my brigade is respons for thist locashon. luckly one of the deperty group officers turned up at the scen. contates adl fire and presto. fire are responed. the scary thing is 20 min from the origanal call cfs have arrived 25 min latter sapol arrive got to love it. but ya thats just my exsperances.
also talked to some of orer officees who say to ask for fire. becaues we atlest respon the other agencesy at the same time hopfaly this all gets better with sacad.
probly wont
.....u taken d pisss!
9 mins isn't to bad, as what you will often find is the SAAS call taker will take the details and it will get dispatched, as you will see the page, but they will stay on the line a few more mins to get more out of the caller, then they might notify SAPOL, there goes anther couple of mins, then they ring the fire service, then the fire service rings ALERTS for those brigades that don't put data into the system, then after arthur, martha and dulcie work out who to send the page will go out. 9 mins, doesn't take long.
21:45:32 02-04-10 MP181 CatB Walkers Flat Rd, Mount Pleasant SAAS Road Crash Research
22:31:04 02-04-10 MFS: *CFSRES INC059 02/04/10 22:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT MAP 0 0 0 TG096,CAR V'S TREE, NIL ENTRAPMENTS, SAPOL,ON SCENE. WALKERFLAT RD EAST OF MT,PLEASANT,MPLT19 CFS Mount Pleasant Response
Why so long to respond the fire service?
SOP
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Jaff -'succession planning'(or lack of), probably one of the single biggest failings in the CFS currently.
Mmm not a bad solution JAFF, but for most incidents; ie minor VA, alarm calls, small fire incidents, neither a group officer nor a command car should be necessary. Can be run from an appliance and by the brigade easily.
And thats why noone ever gets any incident control experience. Rife in a lot of groups. Some people just cant let go of certain things when they step up the ranks.
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.... ... , BUT SHOULD YOU SAY THAT?
1908084 12:03:18 07-03-10 INFO DEPLOYMENT TO VICTORIA IS LEAVING TODAY OR TOMORROW BACK WEDNESDAY PLEASE PHONE MATHEW IF ABLE TO ATTEND SES Sturt Info
Is it that bad?
I've seen "Unconscious entrapment" used a fair bit, consistency would be nice...SACAD God comes to save the day.
Jaff
You might also have noticed that CFSVA hasn't stepped in here to shut down the thread.
'nuff said about that.
I think all the other things you question have been covered in the thread
already, or in other threads going back to when this site was started. Not
going to do your research for you.
Personally, I really hope it doesn't come to action. I hate confrontation.
Basically, we need some form of feedback from the CFSVA. Even a time frame for what we expect would be enough for the moment.
I tend to think that any form of action not sanctioned by CFSVA would be treading a fine line. The whole idea is for a coordinated effort!
This discussion came as an extension to the knowledge that a few vollies paid an impromptu visit to a minister.
Why a fine line? The CFSVA have hinted that they have teeth with the questionnaire, now they need to back it up and bare them a little. Anything not sanctioned by them will effectively undermine what WE WANT them to do.
I like the idea, but we need to be pressuring the right people to make it happen.
.....one could say typical CFSVA organising
nearly two weeks in and no interesting reading same as usual
Well have to admit it was do your 3 monthly BA wear and play soccer while your doing it with a dash of basketball while your at it...great for fitness.
It is pretty good to see that SAAS are taking a fairly modern approach to getting their messages and info out there, however I feel that people have trouble giving way to normal sized Ambulances let alone these new ones. Too many times have I seen idiots just race in front of an Ambulance entering an intersection. I think that there needs to be more hard hitting advertising to bring peoples attention around. Perhaps SAPOL can allow Ambulances to be fitted with cameras which Paramedics can use to report people who blatantly don't give way?
