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Incidents / Re: House Fire Middleton
« on: January 31, 2007, 05:31:48 PM »
There is a way of making them to issue them quicker, everytime you go to a housefire, and have to go inside waering nomex. When you get back to the station do a hazard near miss form. After a few of these, region will start asking questions, or ring region everyweek to ask them why it hasnt been issued, this  will have region asking your GO's what the hell is going on.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Ordering of PBI Gold
« on: January 26, 2007, 12:37:53 PM »
i believe that MFS were issued with two sets of PBI so they shouldn't have replacement sets? Maybe they want something cfs has got for once. :-D :-D :-D

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Compartment Fire Behaviour / Re: Using 25mm Sidereels at Structure Fires
« on: January 26, 2007, 12:23:38 PM »
Yep a good example of surround and drown by MFS the other weekwith a HP line....we were second arrival,and they had already emptied their whole tank into the roofspace causing the whole ceiling to come down,when we went in with BA.Fire was in front bedroom...doh

I thought by doing compartment fire behaviour you should use less water :wink: 

You are correct, but as of may/june there were more CFS f/fighters trained in CFB than MFS. Only the last two MFS drill squads have had CFB included in there 14 week course. They had to put every single MFS firefighter through it before this. The only exceptions are the MFS Training guys who did instructors courses.

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Incidents / Re: House Fire Middleton
« on: January 26, 2007, 12:15:15 PM »
PBI is the only way to go, but if you only have nomex then you do what you gotta do. Didn't stop us before we were issued with PBI.
Think back to the days of overalls, woolen turnout coats and topgaurd helmets. :wink:

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Incident Operations / Re: Water Restrictions
« on: January 26, 2007, 12:08:17 PM »
I would hope it wasnt the case either. Who knows. :?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Denis Pumper
« on: January 26, 2007, 12:05:59 PM »
just get some of these
528 i mean

I think that appliance is similar to the URPs that cfs has. PTO pumps, but have secondary pumps for pump & roll. The URP is the type of appliance most brigades with big urban/rural risks should be getting. You have the best of both worlds.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Clayton CFS (cab curtains)
« on: January 26, 2007, 10:28:47 AM »
Did you see the CFA crew on the ABC special the other night? The did a demo of a burnover and they used woolen blankets fro protection on the back!! And this is after Linton.

Even though i had ago at cfs in my last post about this subject, i still believe that cfs is the best equipment and safety standards of any volley fire servive in aus.

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Country Fire Service / Re: The role of IMT
« on: January 26, 2007, 10:25:59 AM »
I was under the impression that when strike teams are called for they respond the closest groups first, then if more are required they leap frog groups after that so as not to pull to many resources from certain areas. ie from mt bold heading south, they would have left 1-2 groups untouched to respond to other major incidents. I could be wrong but i think thats how its meant to work. Someone correct me if im wrong.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Denis Pumper
« on: January 26, 2007, 10:13:10 AM »
Word on the grapevine is it will go to Morphett Vale and yes seaford would struggle to man three trucks with the member numbers they have. I believe that taking a 4WD appliance from them and replace it with a 2WD pumper is not wise for the rural risks they have.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Denis Pumper
« on: January 26, 2007, 06:45:04 AM »
If it goes to seaford it will still be busy jobs wise, but the distance it has to travel will be greatly reduced.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Clayton CFS (cab curtains)
« on: January 26, 2007, 06:41:45 AM »
There may not be enough money, but one would think that they might BUDGET some money to assist brigades/groups with getting these important safety features installed. It not a new idea there have been several financial years roll by they could have done this over. Just because a brigade doesn't have a new truck, doesn't mean they should miss out on basic safety devices.
Final point- You dont see to many regional cars going around that are more that 2-3 years old. There is the money CFS needs to put firefighters safety first.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Burnover Training
« on: January 26, 2007, 06:29:06 AM »
It was taught in Basic Firemanship in EFS 30 years ago :mrgreen:
Correct, so its by no means a new thing, just has had updates and improvements to keep it in line with the updates and improvements of our vehicles.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Post Deployment Stand down
« on: January 26, 2007, 06:22:33 AM »
Thats a very interesting point 5271, can anyone confirm this. I would hope the same rules apply to paid staff.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Burnover Training
« on: January 25, 2007, 03:20:53 PM »
What we do is watch the Deadman Zone video thn go out and do the burn over drill.  thought that was what was meant to happen...
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I think it is, but some brigades seem to have forgoten about Deadman zone since the burnover training has really come into play in the last couple of years.
Its been around since i started as a youngster, its just been revamped and made into an official training package.

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It could be a good idea, depending on the size of the sticker. Id say in the limited seconds you have in a burnover it wouldn't be any help, but when your spending time on the back of the truck driving around you will all ways have it there to remind you of the steps.
This also may sound abit harsh but its not a hard thing to remember if you do proper training on it. The thing that some people get caught out on is that when they practice it, they only practice it doing the same role ie crew, driver, officer. For people that could find themselves in all roles, they should practice all roles.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: January 25, 2007, 02:59:07 PM »

He/she should be aware of all movements with appliances within the group.
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I would think that all GOs would, its just sometimes they dont pass that info on when you get a job and want backup asap.

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Incident Operations / Re: Water Restrictions
« on: January 25, 2007, 01:05:00 PM »
that's crap...there is no restriction on water if it's in the action of fire fighting....I agree with you, what a waste of resources...

as far as I'm aware, the only restrictions we have been given is in the area of cleaning appliances....certainly not in the act of extinguishment...imagine if the media got wind of that!  :?

There are no restrictions at all at incidents, granted you should be wasting water, but you use what you need to stop, control and extinguish the fire. Captcom is right, only the washing of vehicles is affected by restrictions (only using buckets etc.) I do believe all brigades should incourage the use of portable dams or similar during training to recycle water.
And yes that is an extreme waste of resources. Wonder what the owner of the hayshed thought. Not happy Jan.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Post Deployment Stand down
« on: January 25, 2007, 05:50:25 AM »
SACFS Operations Management Guidelines-40

Rest period on return

Upon return crews will be expected to remain "off duty" for a period of two days.During this time they are not expected to attend any incidents

48 hours everyone :wink: 
me SA firery

I assume that this is only a guideline and not a black and white rule.
I believe you, your brigade and group needs to be sensible about how they approach this rule.
You really need to base your decision on your personal needs ie family, work and how hard you actually worked whilst away. If your tasking was full-on take the time off, relax. If it wasn't yeah turnout, but remember if something happens to you when on a call, when you should be taking this 48hrs of rest there will be a few please explain going on.
A fit and refreshed firey is the way to go, not a firey that is so wornout, a poor decision they make or action could not only affect them but his/hers fellow firefighters.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: January 24, 2007, 03:29:00 PM »
Believe it or not it is handy to know if your an officer when you get a job and may require there assistance esspecialy during bushfire season, you know not to respond them but the next brigade in the response plans.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Denis Pumper
« on: January 24, 2007, 03:04:13 PM »
Thats what i have told the guys pixie, dont believe a word till its sitting in the station with seafords name on it. Id call it a fair swap for the Logistics car though.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Burnover Training
« on: January 24, 2007, 09:43:51 AM »
People are forgeting that burnover training isn't the only important training you need to do pre fire season, Deadman zone training is just as important as burnover training, if you can understand the concept of wind speed/change + slope + fuel loading, anchor points etc, you shouldn't find yourself in a position where you need to use your burn over training. Not saying that burnover training is not important,it should go hand in hand with deadman zone.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Denis Pumper
« on: January 24, 2007, 09:25:17 AM »
Hoping it can stay a group resource and stay at mawson base.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Denis Pumper
« on: January 24, 2007, 06:20:24 AM »
From what i have heard about the Dennis (apart from the mechanical issues) they are a fantastic truck to work from, totally designed for firefighting.
p.s. apparently the boys from seaford where told on Monday from a GO that they will be getting it and they also measured the station to make sure it fits, and if they can make the 24 fit into the third bay they can keep the 24 as well.

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Incident Operations / Re: Hills Fires 10/01/07
« on: January 23, 2007, 10:29:11 AM »
If there going to start pulling firefighters of the fireground that have bee sting allergies thats a joke, i know that many cfs guys n girls who are allergic to bee stings its not funny, as long as you have your meds on you you'll be fine.

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OFF Topic / Re: The rain is coming
« on: January 23, 2007, 05:27:22 AM »
It was good to see rain, rare sight up here at roxby, had 70mm in 4 hrs, along with the best lightning storm i have ever seen. It was still 25deg during the night, felt like darwin.

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