SA Firefighter
General Discussion => SAMFS => Topic started by: wicky on December 26, 2008, 09:25:36 AM
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Thought i would get it started. I will apply again who else is having another crack at it,
Gasman no doubt you will be in the mix.
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I will be applying again when applications come up. Hopefully this time I am more prepared.
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i was going to, but have recently found out that my eyes are not upto scratch. i dont wear glasses or anything but my eyes are 6/15 in one eye and 6/9 in the other. bugger!
now saving for lasic eye surgery! $5k
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i was going to, but have recently found out that my eyes are not upto scratch. i dont wear glasses or anything but my eyes are 6/15 in one eye and 6/9 in the other. bugger!
now saving for lasic eye surgery! $5k
Give it a go anyway and apply in 2009. The process will be good practise and you never know you may pass the medical.
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i was going to, but have recently found out that my eyes are not upto scratch. i dont wear glasses or anything but my eyes are 6/15 in one eye and 6/9 in the other. bugger!
now saving for lasic eye surgery! $5k
Give it a go anyway and apply in 2009. The process will be good practise and you never know you may pass the medical.
ive been through in 2007 and did all stages prior to medical, so i know what to expect.
once they get you in for the medical, you are in, providing everything checks out. i dont want to get all the way to the medical to get knocked back for eye sight. that would be a bummer, specially if i couldnt get to that stage again in the future.
i dont think there will be any slack allowed in the medical. just like the other stages, if you dont meet the requirements, your out.
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Does anybody know when the applications might open this year. Also can anyone give me information to what to study about the aptitude test?
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Have a good look at the sample questions on the MFS Website
http://www.mfs.sa.gov.au/site/join_us/fulltime_firefighters.jsp
That should give you a good idea of the sorts of questions they will ask....
Pip
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hey Wicky, I'll be there, just have to shed a few bonus kgs left over from Christmas and i will be right
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That makes two of us :-D
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Does anyone know when the MFS will call for applicants. ?
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doubt any current firefighters would want to retire now....im gonna guess 2010.
Try CFA Career firefighting.
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Does anyone know when the MFS will call for applicants. ?
next round of PAT 1s in June/July to fill 2 maybe 3 drill squads after that this year
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next round of PAT 1s in June/July to fill 2 maybe 3 drill squads after that this year
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When will they start the next lot of recruitment. :-)
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next round of PAT 1s in June/July to fill 2 maybe 3 drill squads after that this year
When will they start the next lot of recruitment. :-)
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it would be a fair guess to believe....sometime before June or July :|
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All speculation,noone knows
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All speculation,noone knows
Heard a rumour that the MFS might not be losing as many numbers as they thought to retiremant due to the global economic crisis and its effects on superannuation have made people rethink their plans. This may effect the number of recruits for this year??
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All speculation,noone knows
sorry wdnulk2no......but some people do, funny that
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Applications for Full Time Firefighter positions will be open 9.00am on Saturday 21 February 2009. Please visit this website again on this date for further information and instructions.
From the MFS website,
ON YOUR MARKS, GET SET, ??
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Applications for Full Time Firefighter positions will be open 9.00am on Saturday 21 February 2009. Please visit this website again on this date for further information and instructions.
From the MFS website,
ON YOUR MARKS, GET SET, ??
thanks for the heads up
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hey guys, im going to apply for the first time in the 2009 recruitment, anything that i should get prepared for apart for the physical side of things as well and the HR, first aid, and computer skills? any help would be greatly appreciated.
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hey guys, im going to apply for the first time in the 2009 recruitment, anything that i should get prepared for apart for the physical side of things as well and the HR, first aid, and computer skills? any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rejection :evil:...........it seems to be the thing, most applicants dont seem to get through on their 1st attempt, but as in all things persistence has its rewards!
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well that wasnt really what i was hoping for, lol. but yeah i have heard that before. however i dont want to treat this as im not going to get in, might as well still give it the 100%. Although im interested to why the majority of first attempts fail. (mainly so i dont make more mistakes than i have too)
- Is it just to see if people really want to be a part of the service by making them reapply?
- Or people mess up their applications?
cheers!
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Typically people are poorly prepared or miss their deadlines/appointments.
Make sure you have everything you need, utilise the MFS website (http://www.mfs.sa.gov.au/site/home.jsp) for example questions and explanations of the Physical aspects... but MOST of all treat it like any other job interview.
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well that wasnt really what i was hoping for, lol. but yeah i have heard that before. however i dont want to treat this as im not going to get in, might as well still give it the 100%. Although im interested to why the majority of first attempts fail. (mainly so i dont make more mistakes than i have too)
- Is it just to see if people really want to be a part of the service by making them reapply?
- Or people mess up their applications?
cheers!
A lot of first timers got in from the 2008 applications maybe due to the fact that they took 4 drill squads from the apps. Hard to give any tips for the aptitude and psych testing but if you get to the interview stage then a few tips are:
Being involved in a community or volunteer group eg. lifesaving club, coaching or helping out with a sporting team or club will help.
Make sure you read up on all the info provided on the SAMFS website, the more you can talk and provide answers at the interview the better. Have answers and examples for all the " Is firefighting for me?' questions on the website
If you know someone in the MFS make sure you quiz them about the day to day duties of a member, if dont know anyone just go into a station and ask to speak to someone.
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Being involved in a community or volunteer group eg. lifesaving club, coaching or helping out with a sporting team or club will help.
Am wondering why the CFS is not mentioned? I would have thought being a volunteer protecting your community and being a member in a fire service would be close to being number one on the recruiters list?. Or is there a bit of us and them going on,does the MFS value the training and standards of the CFS?. As a memeber of the public and a home owner living in a rural area I certainly do!. Look forward to hearing comments.
Cheers
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Being involved in a community or volunteer group eg. lifesaving club, coaching or helping out with a sporting team or club will help.
Am wondering why the CFS is not mentioned? I would have thought being a volunteer protecting your community and being a member in a fire service would be close to being number one on the recruiters list?. Or is there a bit of us and them going on,does the MFS value the training and standards of the CFS?. As a memeber of the public and a home owner living in a rural area I certainly do!. Look forward to hearing comments.
Cheers
Pretty sure CFS would help. Was just listing a couple of examples in my post. I am not an expert on the recruiting process just listing a few tips that i was given.
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Question:
When you do the PAT/1 (shuttle run), do they stop you at the requisite level 9.6 or just let everyone run on to take the highest scorers?
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Previously, stopped you.
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Question:
When you do the PAT/1 (shuttle run), do they stop you at the requisite level 9.6 or just let everyone run on to take the highest scorers?
Last year they stopped us at 9.6 Pretty sure it is a pass/fail test. No prizes for going above
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yeah they stop you after 9.6 last year we were stopped part of the way through 9.7
maybe the mods can merge this thread and the new round of firefighting jobs thread. considering its about the same thing. :-D
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Im happy to leave it here. Its in the SAMFS section, and is based on 2009 Recruitment, which is still what is being discussed. :)
If it strays too much, PM me and we can make something happen.. ;)
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'maybe the mods can merge this thread and the new round of firefighting jobs thread. considering its about the same thing.'
Im happy to leave it here. Its in the SAMFS section, and is based on 2009 Recruitment, which is still what is being discussed. :)
If it strays too much, PM me and we can make something happen.. ;)
Thank you for illuminating those two points, RescueHazmat.
I certainly won't be straying off topic as the abuse of forums wastes everybodies' time in having to sort the 'wheat from the chaff': I'm here for facts & info, not chit chat!
On that, I got through the PAT/1 (at which they did stop us on 9.6 incidentally) and am now looking at the Firefighter Abilities Test & psychometric testing. I know better than to get too excited at this stage but I am keen to hear from anyone with good advice for this next round.
I'm looking at the Firefighter Abilities Test specifically (as I'm already familiar with psyche testing and know there is no advice or prep for those).
I obviously have the info from the SAMFS official website and can read (so please don't duplicate) but I want to hear from real experiences of those who have been through this round of testing.
-What do you recommend?
-What prep can I do?
-What can I expect to face on the day that isn't stated in the literature?
Any useful info will be greatly received.
And good luck to anyone else going for this too :-)
PS: Having waded through the 'Recruitment 2008' forum, I gather the F.A.T is basically a new name for what was the PAT/2. Is this correct? And where can I locate the dvd that Gasman referred to?
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Get yourself a copy of the DVD of the PAT 2 testing. Will give you a bit more knowledge,
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'maybe the mods can merge this thread and the new round of firefighting jobs thread. considering its about the same thing.'
Im happy to leave it here. Its in the SAMFS section, and is based on 2009 Recruitment, which is still what is being discussed. :)
If it strays too much, PM me and we can make something happen.. ;)
Thank you for illuminating those two points, RescueHazmat.
I certainly won't be straying off topic as the abuse of forums wastes everybodies' time in having to sort the 'wheat from the chaff': I'm here for facts & info, not chit chat!
On that, I got through the PAT/1 (at which they did stop us on 9.6 incidentally) and am now looking at the Firefighter Abilities Test & psychometric testing. I know better than to get too excited at this stage but I am keen to hear from anyone with good advice for this next round.
I'm looking at the Firefighter Abilities Test specifically (as I'm already familiar with psyche testing and know there is no advice or prep for those).
I obviously have the info from the SAMFS official website and can read (so please don't duplicate) but I want to hear from real experiences of those who have been through this round of testing.
-What do you recommend?
-What prep can I do?
-What can I expect to face on the day that isn't stated in the literature?
Any useful info will be greatly received.
And good luck to anyone else going for this too :-)
PS: Having waded through the 'Recruitment 2008' forum, I gather the F.A.T is basically a new name for what was the PAT/2. Is this correct? And where can I locate the dvd that Gasman referred to?
The dvd is available for $20(i think) from Wakefield st Station. The PAT2 is more about technique than fitness so by watching the dvd it will help you pick up any methods that may assist you. My tips would be: dont let go of guide rope during tunnel crawl and hold drums with 2 hands during the final incaptulated suit test as it is hard to get your gloved hands around the handle.
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'maybe the mods can merge this thread and the new round of firefighting jobs thread. considering its about the same thing.'
Im happy to leave it here. Its in the SAMFS section, and is based on 2009 Recruitment, which is still what is being discussed. :)
If it strays too much, PM me and we can make something happen.. ;)
Thank you for illuminating those two points, RescueHazmat.
I certainly won't be straying off topic as the abuse of forums wastes everybodies' time in having to sort the 'wheat from the chaff': I'm here for facts & info, not chit chat!
On that, I got through the PAT/1 (at which they did stop us on 9.6 incidentally) and am now looking at the Firefighter Abilities Test & psychometric testing. I know better than to get too excited at this stage but I am keen to hear from anyone with good advice for this next round.
I'm looking at the Firefighter Abilities Test specifically (as I'm already familiar with psyche testing and know there is no advice or prep for those).
I obviously have the info from the SAMFS official website and can read (so please don't duplicate) but I want to hear from real experiences of those who have been through this round of testing.
-What do you recommend?
-What prep can I do?
-What can I expect to face on the day that isn't stated in the literature?
Any useful info will be greatly received.
And good luck to anyone else going for this too :-)
PS: Having waded through the 'Recruitment 2008' forum, I gather the F.A.T is basically a new name for what was the PAT/2. Is this correct? And where can I locate the dvd that Gasman referred to?
you can buy the pat 2 DVD at head office $20
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Was funny to see a few people turning up late to the Firefighting testing this week at Angle Park and getting rejected. How hard is it to turn up on time? Shows how serious they were about getting in. A lot of people were there a good 30-40min early.
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what day were you there monger? I was there Tuesday and three people were denied entry.
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what day were you there monger? I was there Tuesday and three people were denied entry.
Was there everyday, am in the last drill squad. We could see people turning up late and running in from where we are training and then see them come back out 5 or 10 min later.
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Can't have been to serious then
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anyone received confirmation of the next stage?
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Any news yet people? Is there anyone progressing further this year?
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Any news yet people? Is there anyone progressing further this year?
Have heard that a few people got notified yesterday about interviews.
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I can confirm that, going in for interview on 1st June
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got an interview next monday ! woop!
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got an interview next monday ! woop!
How do you feel your interview went? I know they dont give you much indication but were you happy with how it went?
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Hey, it was a strange/cold experience. They seemed to make an effort to give me no feedback whatsoever - avoid eye contact and just seemed happy to let me ramble on.
Therefore I found it really hard to judge whether or not I was saying the right thing.
Guess i'll find out when they post the results.
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Course 38 graduated today and Course 39 is due out in 6 weeks.
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Does anyone have any idea how many were still left in before the interview process started?
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Does anyone have any idea how many were still left in before the interview process started?
Pretty sure they were interviewing 192 people for 18 positions this year and maybe another squad next year if there is retirements
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didnt get through. devo
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Missed out again, going for number five next time... AAArrrgggghhh :x
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Sorry to hear that mate, any clues as to why or do they leave you in the dark?
Cheers
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Bad luck mate better luck next time have you herd when the next recruitment is best of luck tho when it does come along :oops:
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Have no idea where i went wrong, no idea when next recruitment will be, have no idea how many are being taken this year. Starting to wonder if after five years of trying is it really worth the trouble? :|
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Have no idea where i went wrong, no idea when next recruitment will be, have no idea how many are being taken this year. Starting to wonder if after five years of trying is it really worth the trouble? :|
Keep your chin up mate, keep applying. I know blokes who tried 6-7 times before getting through & if in your late 20s, early 30s you have plenty of time.
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Turning forty this september, i think the family has had enough of the whole process.
Problem i have is my life gets put on hold for months, my business suffers and i get very frustrated. Just wish i had the right answers for them at the interview stage.
At least i have a minimum of twelve months to figure it out.
:|
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I reckon thats very piss poor if they give you no feedback at all!!!! :x, sounds like a cruel process I guess it is intentionally done this way due to the shear number of people wanting to get in, the old supply versus demand. Just turn into Arnie Schwarzenegger for next year and throw one of the interviewers over your shoulder and run around the block five times, that would be sure to impress them :-D.
Cheers
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Turning forty this september, i think the family has had enough of the whole process.
Problem i have is my life gets put on hold for months, my business suffers and i get very frustrated. Just wish i had the right answers for them at the interview stage.
At least i have a minimum of twelve months to figure it out.
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You probably did have all the right answers but the way they do the rankings is a mystery to most. I know a lot of police get thru because they can relate all the questions to their current job. It is hard for a carpenter for example to try to compete. Tough year this year too with maybe only 18 positions available, keep trying but definitely do not put your life on hold because i believe luck plays a massive role in getting thru. Just cos you interview well doesnt mean you will be good at the hands on role that majority of job is. Keep trying maybe next year they will take 3 or 4 squads and you will have a better shot.
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Q Does QFRS consider previous firefighter experience?
A Yes. QFRS values any previous firefighter experience that applicants possess.
Applicants with one year or more full time equivalent as a permanent firefighter or three years or more active service as a part time/ auxiliary firefighter, will receive additional points for their application.
Evidence of this experience should be included when submitting an application.
Does this also apply to the SAMFS when looking at candidates? specifically do they value CFS training/volley experience? Anyone in the know?
Cheers
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South Australia's newest firefighters will be welcomed at a special graduation ceremony at the Metropolitan Fire Service (MFS) this morning. Minister for Emergency Services, the Hon. Michael Wright and MFS Chief Officer, Grant Lupton will congratulate the 17 recruits and commend them for their hard work.
Chief Officer Lupton says while the recruits are individuals from a range of backgrounds, today they will graduate as a team. "Our recruits hail from various occupations, from shearing, teaching and horticulture to real estate, trades and policing. "While their personalities and interests may differ, our recruits have completed their training as a tight-knit group focussed on teamwork," Chief Officer Lupton says.
The recruits were selected from hundreds of applicants and faced a demanding, gruelling 14 week training course. They've encountered a daily physical training program, attended more than 100 lectures and completed tough training exercises. "Our new firefighters have gained vital skills that will assist them with responding to emergencies, extinguishing fires, mitigating the effects of hazardous materials and saving lives. "I wish our new firefighters well and encourage them to explore the different opportunities a career with the MFS has to offer, including emergency management, communications, training and community education," Chief Officer Lupton says.
Many of the graduates have a strong background in volunteer work, including the Country Fire Service (CFS), Surf Life Saving, Trees for Life, Army Reserves and umpiring.
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Interseting that they dont mention SES as one of the volly organisations there, maybe that is where i am going wrong..... :roll:
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Interseting that they dont mention SES as one of the volly organisations there, maybe that is where i am going wrong..... :roll:
Doubt it.....................hahhaaahaahhhhaaaahhhhhaaaaaaaa ......aaaaaaaarrrr maybe :-D
No seriously keep trying :mrgreen:
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I doubt it Gasman - the fire services hardly ever acknowledge the existance of SES officially in any state. SAMFS actually works with SESSA cat 2 USAR operators(incase you didn't already know), so I doubt that is the problem - more likely too many applicants not enough spaces. As Jaff said keep trying & good luck next time :-)
cheers
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Hey no worries, enjoying my life as a vollie as well, just wish there were a few less trees to cut up, i hate cleaning chainsaws. :-D
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THE newest batch of 17 Metropolitan Fire Service recruits includes a former international squash player and a winemaker.
They have successfully completed 14 weeks of intensive practical and theory training in order to become firefighters.
Minister for Emergency Services, Michael Wright said the recruits were from all walks of life.
"The recruits have held various jobs as wine makers, geologists and medical scientists, to mechanics, engineers, bankers and personal trainers. There is even a jackaroo among the recruits," he said.
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[quoteThe recruits have held various jobs as wine makers, geologists and medical scientists, to mechanics, engineers, bankers and personal trainers. There is even a jackaroo among the recruits," he said.][/quote]
A jackaroo now thats a prized recruit :-o
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I guess that shows it takes all kinds hey!
I wonder what the next squad will bring?
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So, the next drill squad starts Feb. Good luck to all of you. Anyone here get an offer?
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i was going to, but have recently found out that my eyes are not upto scratch. i dont wear glasses or anything but my eyes are 6/15 in one eye and 6/9 in the other. bugger!
now saving for lasic eye surgery! $5k
Hey Josh, have you considered Contact Lenses. there is a product called Ortho-K (have a google). I got measured for them yesterday. Wear for 8 hours (while you sleep) - gives you 20/20 vision. and for working night shift - wear them during the day - you can still see thru them 20/20, so not just a night thing. And - way cheaper than surgery - about $1200 will cover you for more than 3 years. (There have been previous recruits who wear glasses and/or contacts)
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hi subi
i read that you needto have the level of vision they are after without assistance. so no contacts or glasses. this is part of the medical apparently.
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hey guys, im going to apply for the first time in the 2009 recruitment, anything that i should get prepared for apart for the physical side of things as well and the HR, first aid, and computer skills? any help would be greatly appreciated.
Rejection :evil:...........it seems to be the thing, most applicants dont seem to get through on their 1st attempt, but as in all things persistence has its rewards!
In current squad more than 75% are first time applicants.
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how many drill squads were taken out of the last batch of applicants.?
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how many drill squads were taken out of the last batch of applicants.?
So far 2 lots of 18. first finished mid Dec, second one started 1st Feb 10. We are in week 2 of 15.
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how are you enjoying yourself bunyip?
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how are you enjoying yourself bunyip?
It is a whole lot of fun, with loads of hard work thrown in. we have spent the last 2 days out in the drill yard - HOT HOT HOT!!!!
I have never slept so well in my life.
Such a broad range of learning too. Obviously hoses/pump etc, but add in PT (Physical Training) Polices Procedures, Team Building. Loads of variety, and only 8 days down so far.
Instructors are great. I can see it is going to be a great career.
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how are you enjoying yourself bunyip?
It is a whole lot of fun, with loads of hard work thrown in. we have spent the last 2 days out in the drill yard - HOT HOT HOT!!!!
I have never slept so well in my life.
Such a bread range of learning too. Obviously hoses/pump etc, but add in PT (Physical Training) Polices Procedures, Team Building. Loads of variety, and only 8 days down so far.
Instructors are great. I can see it is going to be a great career.
Wait til week 3, you will be sick of bowling and rolling and hauling hose aloft and pitching ladders. How did the Star Force day go? Sick of push ups??
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how are you enjoying yourself bunyip?
It is a whole lot of fun, with loads of hard work thrown in. we have spent the last 2 days out in the drill yard - HOT HOT HOT!!!!
I have never slept so well in my life.
Such a bread range of learning too. Obviously hoses/pump etc, but add in PT (Physical Training) Polices Procedures, Team Building. Loads of variety, and only 8 days down so far.
Instructors are great. I can see it is going to be a great career.
Wait til week 3, you will be sick of bowling and rolling and hauling hose aloft and pitching ladders. How did the Star Force day go? Sick of push ups??
Heading out with the Staries today - excited and nervous all at once
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When are they going to stop the going out for the stupid day with the Staries. The police recruits can't do it. The amount of recruits that get hurt is ridiculous over the years.
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When are they going to stop the going out for the stupid day with the Staries. The police recruits can't do it. The amount of recruits that get hurt is ridiculous over the years.
Having just gone thru it, I'd say not so stupid. A fantastic team building exercise. Lots of weaknesses identified, and loads of strengths too. 18 Knackered Blokes who are now a whole lot closer together. WOW!, And FARQ I'm sore.
The Star Group fellas are just fantastic guys. Yes they pushed us beyond ou limits, but we are all better off for it. Those Staries are MACHINES!