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Equipment => All Equipment discussion => Topic started by: Jono on September 06, 2007, 08:32:11 PM

Title: Co2 detectors
Post by: Jono on September 06, 2007, 08:32:11 PM
I am wanting to get some prices on a couple of Co2 detectors for our BA gear, similar to the ones MFS have.

Have any other brigades purchased these before?
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: Zippy on September 06, 2007, 08:38:40 PM
i like to hear about the met's dual cylinder BA gear, after seeing them in training few days ago.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: SA Firey on September 06, 2007, 08:53:41 PM
I am wanting to get some prices on a couple of Co2 detectors for our BA gear, similar to the ones MFS have.

Have any other brigades purchased these before?

Possibly Burnside but unless you are a Hazmat brigade not a standard stowage item.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 06, 2007, 10:43:06 PM
What is a Co2 detector?  Do you mean a PID, or is it specifically for Co2?
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: Zippy on September 06, 2007, 10:55:29 PM
a PID would be a good idea for all brigades or more finacially viable: Command Vehicles.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: JC on September 07, 2007, 07:51:11 AM
Hey Jono, think your talking about a PID, is it for gas / chem leaks, if so its a PID your after, unless the brigades buys it out of there own funds you will have stuff all chance of getting one, then there is the training that goes with it. Must admit they are a great piece of equipment.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: 6739264 on September 07, 2007, 10:55:34 PM
What do you want? Do you want a specific CO2 Detector? Or just a gas detector for general use?

The CDU 440 is a good CO2 only detector.

There are many MANY types of gas detectors. PID's are not the be all and end all...
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: JC on September 08, 2007, 09:17:51 AM
What do you want? Do you want a specific CO2 Detector? Or just a gas detector for general use?

The CDU 440 is a good CO2 only detector.

There are many MANY types of gas detectors. PID's are not the be all and end all...

True, PIDs seem to be flavour of the month with CFS, do you have a CDU 440 is it a personal detector or used for general detection, ie confined spaces.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: Jono on September 08, 2007, 10:06:07 AM
What do you want? Do you want a specific CO2 Detector? Or just a gas detector for general use?

The CDU 440 is a good CO2 only detector.

There are many MANY types of gas detectors. PID's are not the be all and end all...

Just the co2 detectors.

Had a quick look around on the net, the CDU 440 isn't cheap  :-o

Another good meter I would like to get would be a meter that measures the flammability of the air and can give you a code readout of the chemical in the air.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: JC on September 08, 2007, 10:14:55 AM
Hey Jono, There are heaps of detectors that test for LELs and gases in the air just have to find a suitable one within the brigades price range.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: 6739264 on September 08, 2007, 12:09:57 PM
You're going to be hard pressed to find a cheap device that can narrow down exactly what is present.

Your best cost effective solution is something like a multi headed gas detector that will detect O2 Levels, % LEL's, presence of H2S and CO. This covers all bases pretty well, and depending on what you get should also tell you your STEL's and TWA's for what ever is in the air.

The MSA Orion 4-head Gas Detector is a pretty good one.

Anything more than a general Gas Detector and you're looking at something really only useful at HAZMAT's and big nasty ones at that. The cost would greatly outweigh the benefits.
Title: Re: Co2 detectors
Post by: fireblade on October 02, 2007, 11:54:47 AM
6793264 hit the nail on the head MSA make a nice detector and so do Drager both 4 sensor H2S, LEL, Co and O2. The only problem I could see for a CFS brigade is a training course in operating gas detectors and the cost of sending them away for repair, service or paying for a coulpe of your members to be trained to service them. Not hard to service and repair once you do the course.

MFS use BW one's we had them for a trial period and were not the best by far.