SA Firefighter
Equipment => All Equipment discussion => Topic started by: bajdas on May 15, 2009, 06:02:59 PM
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With the fire fighting gun, is the advantage a saving in water & being able to more direct the cooling to specific areas rather than drown ?
Question from a non-firefighter trying to understand why it was invented.
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the compartment fire behavior course trains firefighters to understand that using a lot of water, while being inside...can cause more bad than good.
The resulting effect of applying water to a fire = Steam...which is a threat to a firefighter's safety if not controled.
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Question from a non-firefighter trying to understand why it was invented.
ditto here- only solution I could come up with was eco-friendly water fights....
at that sorta pressure- whoever you hit ísn't going to get up in a hurry hence less water used secondary to short term fight?
could this potentially replace the paintball gun......??
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Question from a non-firefighter trying to understand why it was invented.
ditto here- only solution I could come up with was eco-friendly water fights....
at that sorta pressure- whoever you hit ísn't going to get up in a hurry hence less water used secondary to short term fight?
could this potentially replace the paintball gun......??
Nahh re paintball, no range or precision in the shot. Maybe if you were replacing a paintball shotgun version.
Maybe useful in an ambulance to keep the violent relatives/friends of the casualty calmed down ???? Hey, maybe New Years Eve at Glenelg. hee hee
Seriously, what advantage does it have over existing methods ??
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Nahh re paintball, no range or precision in the shot. Maybe if you were replacing a paintball shotgun version.
range? paintball?! how are you supposed to seriuosly bruise anyone with range?
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I'm assuming it's designed to save water, (but has applications in compartment fire fighting).
...that and it would be fun to use!
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the fun factor is cool :-D
the short of it, or my 2c, is small particles are better than 1 jet especially in confined spaces.
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the fun factor is cool :-D
the short of it, or my 2c, is small particles are better than 1 jet especially in confined spaces.
Especially in confined spaces, or almost exclusively in confined spaces?
I've seen videos of Europeans using this type of technology in compartment fires, and my God it looks impressive...
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The system is called IFEX, and stands for Impulse Fire Extinguishing Technology
More more information go to http://www.ffti.com.au/page/2/. It covers all about how it works, different applications etc.
This gear is widely used in Europe and some Asian nations. I saw it when visiting a Singaporean Fire Station. They had the back pack setup mounted on motorbikes.
Cheers
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Wow. That's really impressive. Have a look at the car fire examples in Darcyq's link above...
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there might be a use for 300 Bar 9 Litre SCBA Cylinders now!
Tree Fire > Bang....
Tree Down > Bang...
Tree Alive > Bang...
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for those brigades lacking in crew numbers, lets go for a gun mounted on a Hummer ( there is one in the clips) then you would only need a crew of 2 or 3 (or 1 group person) to handle the initial attack :wink: :wink:
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the fun factor is cool :-D
the short of it, or my 2c, is small particles are better than 1 jet especially in confined spaces.
Especially in confined spaces, or almost exclusively in confined spaces?
I've seen videos of Europeans using this type of technology in compartment fires, and my God it looks impressive...
cones and fogs work well at scrub fires.
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In the Kuwait Fires, the same technology was used.
The Sweedish Fire-fighters used the same technology by fitting a jet engine on a military tank.
They would drive as close as practical connect the a hose to the turbine and blast a pulse of water at the base of the engulfed oil well head. The hard penetration of water stopped the fire process for a small moment of time and the fire was put out.
A DVD by national geographic had this piece of equipment featured.
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the DVD i saw said the jet engine on the tank worked more because it "blew" the fire out rather than used the cooling effect of water. Although there was many hoses being used at the same time so there might have been some similar effect created.
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The principal is the same jsut on a bigger dimension