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Equipment => All Equipment discussion => Topic started by: medevac on April 13, 2006, 10:32:12 AM

Title: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: medevac on April 13, 2006, 10:32:12 AM

just noticed on the OZfire email group some pics of stirling boys at op. easter brake wearing what looked like SES helmets with visors... any benefit/reason for this??? anyone from stirling...

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: probie_boy on April 13, 2006, 04:01:22 PM

PM cfs_firey. he'll be your key to knowledge victory

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: strikeathird on April 13, 2006, 07:06:00 PM

pics pics pics   :evil:

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: medevac on April 13, 2006, 07:41:57 PM

hmm i deleted them sorry...

uhh... little stack hat kind of things, almost no brim, with a placcy visor and a hole in it for a torch...

surely someone else is an oz-firey?

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: 24P on April 13, 2006, 07:53:18 PM

this one?

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: Firefrog on April 13, 2006, 10:16:06 PM

can't comment on Stirling but have used similar helmets for RCR work, very useful for getting your noggin into tight spaces for a look at entrapment etc.

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: Toast on April 14, 2006, 01:06:43 AM

We use them due to their small size. They allow the protection needed at the rcr with a smaller size so you dont have to contend with a huge structure helmet inside a vehicle. They also have (kinda visable in the pic) a small UK4AA torch mounted in the helmet. We carry 3 on our rescue appliance with a couple of spares. All but one are white with 'Stirling Rescue' on them, and the other is yellow with 'OIC Stirling Rescue'.

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: medevac on April 14, 2006, 08:48:09 AM

24P - yeah thats the one... with the guy picking his nose... lol

cheers toast

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: strikeathird on April 14, 2006, 11:05:47 AM

I first saw these last year being used by CFA at the Rescue comps.

Look like they have many positives in reguards to RCR and inside vehicle/ confined space work..

Is the visor rated as "Ïmpact Resistant" ?

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: PF_ on April 14, 2006, 04:37:12 PM

Pacific BR1T

(http://www.pacifichelmets.com/img/new_helmets/thumb/wildland_bushfire/BR1T.jpg)
BR1T
A variation on the BR1 with the added feature of the built in torch pod which accomodates the Mini Q4 UKE Torch, allowing for hands-free lighting.

Certified to AS1801 Type 3 and EN397.

From the pacific helmet website.

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: rescue5271 on April 14, 2006, 08:49:07 PM

I understand a CFS staff member is in the process of having a one helmet does it all. The idea is that you will have one helmet rural type if you are paged for a RCR or structual fire all you have to do is change the outer shell of the helmet and that is all you have to do mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm  So what do people think about that???? The group would have to buy the new helmets along with say six shells and your in business,boy how confusing is the CFS going to get...............

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: PF_ on April 14, 2006, 10:41:35 PM

Its quite stupid really.  Keep the helmets the way things are or give everyone structure helmets, those that have them only wear them anyway.

My thoughts.

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: strikeathird on April 14, 2006, 11:57:43 PM

Ill still just wear my structure...

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on April 15, 2006, 01:03:15 AM

One of our members works for Mercury Fire and Safety and mentioned thode helmets the other day, says they're not too bad and the price is around the same as a standard structure helmet. I think cairns make them but don't hold me to that i'm probably wrong..

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: Toast on April 15, 2006, 04:52:02 PM

A module system would be ok but in all honesty a structural helmet does the job quite well. Even the old solid Bullard helmets. Nothing like the flimsy rural helmets.

Title: Re: stirling rescue helmets??
Post by: strikeathird on April 16, 2006, 11:22:36 PM

Couldn't agree more about the structural helmet.. As i have said a number of times.. I wont wear a rural, for the simple fact that I dont think they are made well enough, and do not offer as much protection in the case of an impact from above..

MAny will say " But you would probably break your neck anyway"..   - but, if you dont, and end up wil half a head ... Then ur knackered...

As long as you understand the heat and thermal protection properties, and understand you need to take it off after 45 mins of active fire fighting, to cool down, then I dont see a problem with it being used for both rural and structural responses..

Its hard explaining to people who have never worn one, why they are so up there when it comes to helmet choice..

Wouldn't wear anything other than my Cairns :)