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Title: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firefrog on July 02, 2007, 03:06:18 PM
This is the place to discuss interesting paging the other thread is now reserved for humorous stuff only.

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Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 02, 2007, 03:23:05 PM
Quote from: mack on Today at 01:49:31 PM
UP TO 20 PEOPLE MISSING NEAR GRANITE ISLAND ALL BOATS AND CREWS REQUIRED URGENT VMR 521



Nice to see it took 6 incidents for south coast SES to call in some assistance with storm damage albiet from yankalilla.

5 jobs on the go and then they get this

1908073 13:39:32 02-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 44 - 02/07/07 13:39,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,FOSTER PL,GOOLWA, MAP 307 L 6 ,,GARDEN SHED ABOUT TO BLOW INTO NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR HOUSE. MRS LEWIS 8555**** P2,79550 73229*CFSRES

Only 300metres from our station.

Yes i realise storm damage isn't our primary job but with this many calls shouldn't they be passing some of these jobs onto CFS?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 5271rescue on July 02, 2007, 04:35:10 PM
Yes they should be passing on these calls to the nearest brigade/service
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firefrog on July 02, 2007, 07:32:05 PM
SES don't think like a fire service.......They run job boards which fill up and they will work all night finishing all the jobs and clearing the board.

Fire Services call in resources until each job has been resourced.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on July 02, 2007, 09:36:06 PM
20:03:56 02-07-07 MENG: PLS BE AWRAE THAT MFS MAY NOT BE ON ALERTS CALLS. BRIGADES WILL HAVE TO TAKE DETAILS AND CALL MFS ON 84129007 TO ACTIVATE PAGERS. CFS COMMS MANAGER IS AWARE. CRNG COMMS OFFICER. 2/07/2007 8:03:35 PM

Seems like a big step backwards.  Hope only a brief glitch in the new system.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sapolpd on July 03, 2007, 01:11:54 AM
1927478 18:42:00 02-07-07 AS12 at a burns case 11 wk old with blistered genitals from nappy that was in microwave - they are ICP - 

Some parents should have to get a licence to have children... Poor kid.  :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 03, 2007, 11:10:19 AM
10:16:58   03-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 43 - 03/07/07 10:16,RESPOND Private Alarm,MT BARKER POLICE STATION,64 GAWLER ST,MT BARKER, MAP 172 M 8 ,,FIRE ARMS STORE,1279*CFSRES:

oh scheiße....it betta just be a false alarm....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 03, 2007, 10:20:51 PM
1927478 18:42:00 02-07-07 AS12 at a burns case 11 wk old with blistered genitals from nappy that was in microwave - they are ICP - 

Some parents should have to get a licence to have children... Poor kid.  :-o

Could'nt believe my eyes when I read that one :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 03, 2007, 11:58:50 PM
1909114 23:21:30 03-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 109 - 03/07/07 23:21,RESPOND Private Alarm,BAROSSA VALLEY RD,ROWLAND FLAT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ORLANDO. AREA 13, WAREHOUSE FIRE PANEL,20624*CFSRES: 

Lyndoch have a job but they didnt get this page in full for some reason
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on July 04, 2007, 01:04:11 PM
1909114 23:21:30 03-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 109 - 03/07/07 23:21,RESPOND Private Alarm,BAROSSA VALLEY RD,ROWLAND FLAT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ORLANDO. AREA 13, WAREHOUSE FIRE PANEL,20624*CFSRES: 

Lyndoch have a job but they didnt get this page in full for some reason

how so?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 04, 2007, 01:12:32 PM
Yeah, looks pretty darn good to me?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 04, 2007, 05:30:23 PM
Listening on the scanner they only got half the page the rest gobledegook....ended up responding 9 minutes later though :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on July 04, 2007, 07:03:20 PM
lol - well pager corruption happens everywhere every day.... i sit to close to the TV and my pager doesnt work. :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 08, 2007, 09:11:49 PM
1909366 17:54:12 08-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 08/07/07 17:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KALANGADOO CFS,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR 721372 RAPID NO,5688*CFSRES:

The first emergency page from Adelaide Fire to Kalangadoo CFS even though they spelled wepar wrong it was a good message  :-) yes i did go to the incident but didnt get off the truck cause someone was needed for spotlighting to see if the driver was hiding in the paddock somewhere
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 09, 2007, 12:40:03 AM
Oh.. I thought you put it in the interesting page cause it was actually a callout.. :P


Just kidding rob.. hee hee  8-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: littlejohn on July 09, 2007, 08:31:14 AM
1909366 17:54:12 08-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 08/07/07 17:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KALANGADOO CFS,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR 721372 RAPID NO,5688*CFSRES:

. . . . it was a good message  :-) . . . .

What exactly consitutes a bad message? 

The poor comms brigade took five mintues to figure out which brigades had been paged (same message sent to a couple of brigades). By the time they put their glasses on, fished out the MFS appliance code list and . . . BINGO!

Does anyone else think the page could be laid out a little more clearly, possibly:
1909366 MFS: KALANGADOO RESPOND Vehicle Accident, KALANGADOO. MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR RAPID NO 721372,5688 DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 17:54:12 08-07-07*CFSRES:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 09, 2007, 11:27:34 AM
Actually littlejohn only Kalangadoo was dispatched along with SAAS NG81 & MG81 but yeah i agree that it could have been laid out abit more clearly however our brigade knows the back roads like Medhurst and Wepar very well  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on July 09, 2007, 12:30:36 PM
1909366 17:54:12 08-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 42 - 08/07/07 17:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KALANGADOO CFS,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEDHURST RD NEAR DRAINS WETAR 721372 RAPID NO,5688*CFSRES:

. . . . it was a good message  :-) . . . .

What exactly consitutes a bad message? 

i dunno... including a rescue resource might havebeen good though? i dunno what went on with this job though..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 09, 2007, 12:58:02 PM
It was an RCR with no entrapments cause like i said before the driver bailed out after crashing his car although were not sure if he walked back to town or called a mate to pick him up :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: littlejohn on July 09, 2007, 01:19:04 PM
Actually littlejohn only Kalangadoo was dispatched . . . . . . 

Robert, Millicent Rescue was also paged (which created confusion with Comms, as the accident was in Penola's area), but they were stop-called enroute after your crew confirmed no entrapments.

I understand SAPOL spent some time trying to track down the driver, who was nowhere to be found.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 09, 2007, 02:14:07 PM
Technically littlejohn Wepar Road is on the borderline between Millicent and Penola Rescue response areas so i can imagine it would have caused confusion, yes SAPOL did spend some time trying to locate the driver but couldnt find him   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on July 09, 2007, 06:21:12 PM
They found him at home apparently.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 09, 2007, 08:26:32 PM
It sounds like he called a mate to come and pick him up  :-o i wonder if he had any cuts or grazes  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 10, 2007, 09:21:35 AM
hmm...this sounds very much like the MVA > Search at woodside early yesterday....pretty much the same! :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 10, 2007, 12:59:41 PM
Yeah it sounds like it Dezza although we had 2 SAPOL cars on scene who did the land search with aid of local farmers on Medhurst Road i suggested to one of the SAPOL officers why not turn it into a land search or bring out the sniffer dogs :lol:   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 11, 2007, 09:47:09 AM
For the SAAS Guru's .. :

1925616 09:01:28 11-07-07 HQ401 Cat2 Cnr Florence St, Fullarton 131 A6

Is this a Commander or SOT or in ICP/CTL ? .. - Or something totally different..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on July 11, 2007, 10:23:31 AM
i believe it is a paramedic crew. persons working on secondment in HQ still have there quals, and are able to respond to jobs in one of the busses kept there... i think there only usually used when SAAS are a bit stretched, btu i spose since its just around the corner...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 11, 2007, 11:35:26 AM
Thanks  :-) .. Had never seen the call sign before.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 11, 2007, 03:14:09 PM
For the SAAS Guru's .. :

1925616 09:01:28 11-07-07 HQ401 Cat2 Cnr Florence St, Fullarton 131 A6

Is this a Commander or SOT or in ICP/CTL ? .. - Or something totally different..

It is Fleet 401 CTL or Crew Team Leaders car :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on July 11, 2007, 04:19:49 PM
r u sure SAFirey?

i have been told it is crewed by either paramedics or ICPs seconded to HQ for other duties? i dont believe its a normal on the road car.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 11, 2007, 05:52:37 PM
Whichever it is, CTL is Clinical Team Leader.   :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on July 11, 2007, 07:59:25 PM
 This means it is a HQ spare fleet ambulance,they give the 40 code to ambulances on standby at sporting or non-operational tasks,in this case 401, if there were more than one it would get 402, occasionally they may be needed to respond. As to what level of crewing they could have been anything from AOs to ICPs, but probably paramedics or ICparamedics being a Cat2 they were responding to.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 11, 2007, 08:28:14 PM
Cheers.

For info they were downgraded to Cat3 shortly after.

Thanks for all the info.. :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 14, 2007, 03:24:47 PM
1909029 13:07:00 14-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 35 - 14/07/07 13:06,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,STRATHALBYN CFS,STRATHALBYN, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STRATHALBYN TO GOOLWA RD, 10KM FROM STRATHALBYN. 2 X MOTORBIKES,73329 1558*CFSRES:

1908895 13:13:59 14-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 35 - 14/07/07 13:14,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,STRATHALBYN CFS,STRATHALBYN, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STRATH TO GOOLWA RD, 10 KM FROM STRATHALBYN. 2 MOTORBIKES. DEFAULT FOR SES.,18119*CFSRES: Mt Compass response


Hmmm interesting obviously they don't read the RCR resource directory for the correct 2nd rescue  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on July 14, 2007, 04:41:40 PM
Then take it up with the relevant people... Dont use this medium as an MFS bashing tool.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 15, 2007, 03:04:41 PM
1909366 10:49:52 15-07-07 MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 25 - 15/07/07 10:49,RESPOND RCR,KALANGADOO TOWN,KALANGADOO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER INJ UNKNOWN NANGWARRY ROAD 2 KM EAST,5749 5688*CFSRES:

Kalangadoo brigade's second callout page sent from Adelaide Fire the interesting thing is that we had no driver or crew except for me as i was the only one who rocked up at the station  :-) meaning that it was my responsibility to radio Wattle Range Base and inform we had no crew or driver

   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 5271rescue on July 15, 2007, 05:02:28 PM
your a good lad robert so i take it you have done ya BFF1 now??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 15, 2007, 06:30:56 PM
Nah blinky everything has been sorted out now :-)i responded right away after reading it was an RCR but still i cant quite put my finger on why there wasnt anyone in town today :? after all the message said injuries unknown that should have resulted in a good crew turn out

I was tempted to set the station siren off but was advised by Wattle Range Base to wait around after getting on the radio to acknowledge our page when no-one turned up i radioed back and advised we had no crew at all 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Smokey Bear on July 15, 2007, 10:00:19 PM
How does this qualify as an interesting pager message? Is it interesting because Kalangadoo actually had a call out? or that they had no crew?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 5271rescue on July 16, 2007, 07:37:30 AM
Two MVA's in a week in the doo
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 16, 2007, 09:50:34 AM
Hey i'm interested, 2 calls in a week thats like a busy brigade doing 30 calls in a week, almost a record :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on July 16, 2007, 01:54:47 PM
13:06:46 16-07-07 SE6 Cat2 Western Hwy, Coonalpyn POLICE REQUIRED

MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 31 - 16/07/07 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TINTINARA CFS,TINTINARA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,1 TRAPPED. ON HIGHWAY HALFWAY BETWEEN COONALPYN AND TINTINARA,30419 30624*CFSRES:

This could be confusing, Coonalpyn and Tintinara are on the Dukes Highway albeit the highway does continue as the Western Highway, but only when it enters Victoria. Hope SE6 is familiar with the area.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 16, 2007, 03:00:25 PM
Hey i'm interested, 2 calls in a week thats like a busy brigade doing 30 calls in a week, almost a record :-P

It was the second Sunday in a row Kalangadoo has gotten called to an RCR which is really unusual especially seeing as how were a non RCR brigade :? If what happened yesterday with no crew but me being available happens during a Fire Ban Day this coming season well were gonna be in alot of trouble  :|     
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 16, 2007, 06:27:22 PM
13:06:46 16-07-07 SE6 Cat2 Western Hwy, Coonalpyn POLICE REQUIRED

MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 31 - 16/07/07 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TINTINARA CFS,TINTINARA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,1 TRAPPED. ON HIGHWAY HALFWAY BETWEEN COONALPYN AND TINTINARA,30419 30624*CFSRES:

This could be confusing, Coonalpyn and Tintinara are on the Dukes Highway albeit the highway does continue as the Western Highway, but only when it enters Victoria. Hope SE6 is familiar with the area.

SE6 is (I believe) a RTL ... Probably backing up a Paramedic Bus or vollie crew.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 17, 2007, 10:27:03 AM
1909213 19:04:38 16-07-07 ANY PERSON WISHING TO HAVE MORNING TEA WITH THE PRIME MINISTER FRI 20TH JULY - 10.30 AM - 12.30 PM AT EVANSTOWN - PLS CONTACT DBA CAPTAIN  ################
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 17, 2007, 10:29:02 AM
07:34:50   17-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 17 - 17/07/07 07:34,RESPOND Tree Down,POUND RD,ASHTON, MAP 121 Q 12 ,,TREE ACROSS RD. CONTACT name - number. P2,72220*CFSRES: SES Campbelltown Response

now thats a bit far from there response area ey!.....and in terms of closest availble resource...wouldnt it be Norton Summit/Ashton???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on July 17, 2007, 11:05:37 AM
Pound Road is definitely Norton Summits area....and Campbelltown would have to drive past the front door of Norton Summit station to get to the tree, or if they came up another way, past Montacute & Cherryville stations....

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on July 17, 2007, 12:11:30 PM
07:34:50   17-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 17 - 17/07/07 07:34,RESPOND Tree Down,POUND RD,ASHTON, MAP 121 Q 12 ,,TREE ACROSS RD. CONTACT DAVID DUFFY - 83920172. P2,72220*CFSRES: SES Campbelltown Response

now thats a bit far from there response area ey!.....and in terms of closest availble resource...wouldnt it be Norton Summit/Ashton???

Bring on SACAD & then the computer database will be combined properly...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on July 17, 2007, 02:02:09 PM
13:06:46 16-07-07 SE6 Cat2 Western Hwy, Coonalpyn POLICE REQUIRED

MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 31 - 16/07/07 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TINTINARA CFS,TINTINARA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,1 TRAPPED. ON HIGHWAY HALFWAY BETWEEN COONALPYN AND TINTINARA,30419 30624*CFSRES:

This could be confusing, Coonalpyn and Tintinara are on the Dukes Highway albeit the highway does continue as the Western Highway, but only when it enters Victoria. Hope SE6 is familiar with the area.

SE6 is (I believe) a RTL ... Probably backing up a Paramedic Bus or vollie crew.

Yep, he is a RTL.....and yep, backing up a vollie crew.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 22, 2007, 03:59:56 PM
14:02:05   22-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:01,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PENOLA RD, 8KM FROM ROBE. NEAR WATER TANKS WITH FOOTY CLUB LOGO.,5799*CFSRES: CFS Robe Response

14:08:52   22-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:08,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8KM FROM ROBE ON PENOLA RD. BRAY DEFAULT FOR ROBE.,5799 5768*CFSRES: CFS Bray Response

14:17:18   22-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:17,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PENOLA RD, 8KM FROM ROBE. ** MT BENSON DEFAULT FOR ROBE AND BRAY **,5788*CFSRES: CFS Mount Benson Response

14:17:50   22-07-07   ROBE: STOP CALL RECEIVED 22-07-07 14:17 CFS Robe Response

14:25:33   22-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 30 - 22/07/07 14:25,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,ROBE CFS,ROBE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PENOLA RD ROBE. 8KM FROM ROBE. ** GREENWAYS DEFAULT FOR ROBE, BRAY & MT BENSON.,5778 5799*CFSRES: CFS Greenways Response

14:28:16   22-07-07   MFS: ROBE GROUP OFFICER PLS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE URGENTLY. 22/07/2007 2:28:05 PM CFS Robe Group Officers Info

 :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on July 22, 2007, 04:07:50 PM
Sounds like someone NOT HAPPY
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 22, 2007, 04:30:07 PM
Kinda sounds like what happened to Kalangadoo last Sunday with that car accident when no one but me turned up so Nangwarry & Penola were defaulted  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 25, 2007, 09:39:44 AM
Would'nt want to be a house fire would it,3 brigade default :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 25, 2007, 03:48:35 PM
1909144 12:16:17 25-07-07 HERM: ATTN ALERTS OPERS, YOU ARE TO FOLLOW SOP 10.12 WHEN TAKING ALERTS CALLS. IF ADEL FIRE SAYS "ALL VOLUNTEERS HANG UP" YOU ARE TO IGNORE AND MAINTAIN SOP 10.12 - SIGNED HERM CAPT. CC GUM GROUP OFFICERS 25-07-07 12:17:20

Intersting..... don't know what to make of that.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 25, 2007, 04:36:18 PM
Thats why its so important that someone makes contact with Adelaide fire, otherwise that happens, default after default after default, nothing more they can do!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on July 27, 2007, 11:47:20 AM
17:19:24   26-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 47 - 26/07/07 17:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,188 MAGILL RD,NORWOOD, MAP 119 A 6 ,,CAR FIRE IN WORKSHOP,205 41 201 202 203*CFSRES: MFS Car 41

Apparently a "Heritage" listed Volvo belonging to a well known radio personality and Sunday Mail columnist.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 28, 2007, 09:08:07 AM
MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 19 - 28/07/07 07:51,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,MT BARKER RD,EAGLE ON THE HIL, MAP 132 A 16 ,,NEAR THE OLD BULLOCK TRACK,2919 2924 9019 441*CFSRES:
Not so much interesting but bizzare. That many appliances to a single car fire?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on July 28, 2007, 11:35:35 AM
2919 and 2924 are both Burnside for a start. Stirling are 9019, so that there is a CFS appliance coming from  both above and below. That system has been in place for many years. 441 (MFS) also get responded as they are so close to the bottom of the freeway and get to jobs there pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 28, 2007, 12:01:53 PM
So 4 appliances to a car fire, but only 2 to a house fire? Still bizzare if you ask me, so why dont MFS send 4 appliances to a car fire in MFS area?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on July 28, 2007, 01:36:04 PM
It's the politics of the area - no one could decide who's area it was, so instead they respond 3 brigades (including 441) to any jobs there.  A good waste of resources, and volunteers time.  I believe the situation has been sorted for when SACAD is implemented though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on July 28, 2007, 02:08:01 PM
The freeway jobs go back to the old days of the Mt Barker Road. There were few places to do u-turns along the road. The decision was made therefore to send appliance(s) from above and below allowing for the fact that appliances might have to drive past the job and turn around and go back to it.
For example between the Crafers turn off and Eagle on the Hill there was nowhere to do a u-turn. MFS send appliances to a lot of jobs just into CFS areas. Thats just the way it is. Not ours to wonder why..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on July 28, 2007, 03:57:40 PM
And know one can say who will do it with SACAD
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 29, 2007, 03:15:56 PM
Edithburgh 14:29:50   29-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 38 - 29/07/07 14:29,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,64 PARK TCE,GLADSTONE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,,44724*CFSRES: CFS Edithburgh Info

Gladstone, Coltowie14:30:57   29-07-07   MFS: *CFSRES:GLADSTONE AND CALTOWIE RESPOND (HOUSE FIRE,64 PARK TCE GLADSTONE) 29/07/2007 2:30:48 PM CFS Gladstone Response

Gladstone, Laura SES 14:32:19   29-07-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 39 - 29/07/07 14:31,RESPOND RCR,GLADSTONE CFS,GLADSTONE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RESPOND VEH ACC, PIRIE TO GLADSTONE RD, APPROX 2KM FROM GLADSTONE, NEAR UP$ TURNOFF, FROM PT PIRIT POLICE,75929 49224*CFSRES:

Edithburgh14:37:24   29-07-07   MFS: *** STOP CALL *** NOT REQUIRED FOR GLADSTONE INCIDENT - THANKS ADEL FIRE. 29/07/2007 2:36:40 PM CFS Edithburgh Response

Quite full on for two single appliance stations....probably acutally need Edithburgh for assistance...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on July 29, 2007, 04:34:26 PM
Hmm, and then:

MFS: *CFSRES: R/O Ludborzs pls contact Adel Fire on 8204 37## re poss suspiscious house fire and MVA at Gladstone 29/07/2007 2:54:07 PM
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 29, 2007, 07:45:29 PM
Anyone listen to the scanner on this one, Gladstone advised SES were giving them BA backup, ummmmm, righto, since when do SES fight house fires.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on July 29, 2007, 08:41:10 PM
probably acutally need Edithburgh for assistance...

bit of a drive for them though (they are some way down Yorke Peninsula).  It would appear to be another example of the wrong brigade being responded.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 29, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
ahhh k.....Jamestown should have gotten to that job me thinks...being BA, RCR etc
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on July 29, 2007, 09:47:02 PM
Mistakes happen.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 29, 2007, 10:50:58 PM
Anyone listen to the scanner on this one, Gladstone advised SES were giving them BA backup, ummmmm, righto, since when do SES fight house fires.......

SES for BA support (im assuming you mean operational firefighting) at a house fire?  - Your kidding right??


-Not ragging on SES at all, but that is like responding the CFS to a full USAR without the SES..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 29, 2007, 11:50:18 PM
Mistakes happen.
All to often lately, hey?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 30, 2007, 02:24:00 AM
You better put your hand up to run it mate, if only they gave the job of running the fire service to forum members, the world would be a better place....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 30, 2007, 09:07:43 AM
Like the page for South Coast SES to Assist MFS at a Hazmat job at Victor Harbour on Saturday :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: piriejono on July 30, 2007, 09:10:31 AM
Do you think that they may have said VA back up and not BA as the MVA at the same time was only 1 to 1 1/2 kms from the house fire and Laura SES are primary Rescue for that area and attended the VA not the fire.   Only my views as to what may have been said but i didnt hear the call only from the ses area talkgroup.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 30, 2007, 09:16:21 AM
That MVA turned out to be a fatal :-(
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 30, 2007, 09:55:20 AM
Like the page for South Coast SES to Assist MFS at a Hazmat job at Victor Harbour on Saturday :-o

That job was an oil spill a few kilometres long, believe they got the ses in for they're good broom work :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on July 30, 2007, 05:49:05 PM
I am pretty sure that you will find SES were responded to the Victor job for traffic. They have the signs etc and are usually much quicker to the scene than council/DRT. SAPOL in country areas often respond SES to jobs like that to assist with manpower for traffic control. Of course we all know that SAPOL in country areas are under manned.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 01:13:58 PM
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:


WHY?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 31, 2007, 01:21:08 PM
I can only "assume" it would be to help with road blocking or the likes...

(Hopefully well away from the scene)..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on July 31, 2007, 01:42:24 PM
Or perhaps threats have been made to burn something down...so having CFS on stand by at an RV point might be a just in case of that happening....  :|

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on July 31, 2007, 02:03:21 PM
MFS: MANNUM APPLIANCE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE ON TG 209 31/07/2007 1:06:56 PM
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 31, 2007, 02:36:40 PM
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:

Did anyone notice on the page MFS: INC # 32? Looks like they are doing a bit of changing around.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on July 31, 2007, 02:47:37 PM
Could these be related

MP400 Cat3 Mannum-sedan Rd, Sanderston MULTIPLE HAZARDS

1of2:Afternoon, notification of self harm case @ Sanderston, Barossa crew and Mt Pleasant level 4 crew attending stand by point with SAPOL, patient has 2of2:weapons on scene. Thanks, Emma - comms

MFS: MANNUM APPLIANCE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE ON TG 209 31/07/2007 1:06:56 PM

Craig further to incident at Sanderston, the patient is DOA, but are treating scene as crime scene now. Regards Fadil

PS: Did notice the 'Daily' has dropped off.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 03:24:38 PM
1908895 14:41:06 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 42 - 31/07/07 14:41,RESPOND Tree Down,VICTOR HARBOR RD,VICTOR HARBOR, MAP 000 0 0 ,,P1 CNR CAHLOOGLEN/VICTOR RD ALAN ##########,18119*CFSRES:

PAGED TO MT COMPASS, SURLEY COUTH COAST SES OR EVEN MFS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firefrog on July 31, 2007, 03:55:26 PM
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:


WHY?

It's common for the fire service to attend siege situations for fire cover.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: MATTY on July 31, 2007, 04:14:52 PM
1924962 15:09:34 31-07-07 G81 Cat2 667 Main North Rd, Elizabeth North 52 A12 POLICE REQUIRED

1909187 15:32:15 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 31/07/07 15:32,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,667 MAIN NORTH RD,ELIZABETH NORTH, MAP 52 A 12 ,,,329 72920 9219*CFSRES:

Nice  delay in rescue being dispatched
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 31, 2007, 04:34:20 PM
1919416 12:33:00 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 32 - 31/07/07 12:33,RESPOND Assist Police,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,RV: MANNUM - CAMBRAY RD NEAR WALKERS FLAT RD,RESIDENT WITH GUN,36419*CFSRES:

Did anyone notice on the page MFS: INC # 32? Looks like they are doing a bit of changing around.

Got changed at midday :wink:

Maybe they are starting to wise up for the better
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 31, 2007, 04:45:42 PM
1908895 14:41:06 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 42 - 31/07/07 14:41,RESPOND Tree Down,VICTOR HARBOR RD,VICTOR HARBOR, MAP 000 0 0 ,,P1 CNR CAHLOOGLEN/VICTOR RD ALAN ##########,18119*CFSRES:

PAGED TO MT COMPASS, SURLEY COUTH COAST SES OR EVEN MFS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED

Was opposite the strawberry farm at Mt Compass the tree was blocking road on blind corner.

BTW you might wan't to remove peoples phone numbers. I'm not keen on my no. being splashed around :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on July 31, 2007, 04:50:42 PM
MATTY, instead of whining about the response on here, send a discrepancy(sp) form in about it.. - I (along with others) are getting sick of people CONTINUALLY sh!t-canning the Comcen.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 31, 2007, 04:51:44 PM
Makes sense closest resource and in a life threatening position if soemone hits it and a bit far for Victor MFS. :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 31, 2007, 06:36:59 PM
1908898 17:52:26 31-07-07 BRIGADE CHAINSAW WILL BE REPORTED AT STOLEN TO SAPOL AFTER 0800HRS TOMORROW 1/8 - WE WILL NOT BE RESPONDING TO TREES DOWN UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE - FROM CAPTAIN  CFS Goolwa Info

Now that cuts deep :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on August 01, 2007, 12:05:14 PM
1924962 15:09:34 31-07-07 G81 Cat2 667 Main North Rd, Elizabeth North 52 A12 POLICE REQUIRED

1909187 15:32:15 31-07-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 31/07/07 15:32,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,667 MAIN NORTH RD,ELIZABETH NORTH, MAP 52 A 12 ,,,329 72920 9219*CFSRES:

Nice  delay in rescue being dispatched

The second page is BUILDING IMPACT for a shoring team to check the building before removing the car. Metropolitan SES units do not respond to road crash rescue taskings.

MFS are responded automatically, because they can check the situation quickly while volunteers respond with more specialised equipment. Especially for fire cover with leaking vehicle fluids.

Not all MFS trucks use paging, so the RCR might have already been processed via a different method.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on August 01, 2007, 12:28:58 PM

Did anyone notice on the page MFS: INC # 32? Looks like they are doing a bit of changing around.
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Got changed at midday :wink:

Maybe they are starting to wise up for the better
[/quote]

SAfirey,
Has this change also happend to the messages you get for calls at work?? as i saw this pager msg and it appears you guys at MFS still have the long line of Daily incidint number at the begining

MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 23 - 01/08/07 08:58,RESPOND ALARM 36/081,SUGAR AUSTRALIA PTY LTD (CSR),260 REGENCY RD ,REGENCY PARK, MAP 105 J 5 ,,FIP MAIN ENTRY OFFICE AREA,,361 371*CFSRES:



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 01, 2007, 12:44:11 PM
Standard template for Elizabeth :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on August 01, 2007, 12:57:11 PM
You based at Eliz. SAfirey?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 01, 2007, 01:00:28 PM
Negative not based at Elizabeth but the new station does not receive the MDT signals inside which is why Elizabeth crews are sent GRN pager messages for details of the call.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on August 01, 2007, 04:26:14 PM
Standard template for Elizabeth :wink:
Seems to be Prospect carrying the pager which use to belong to 332?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 01, 2007, 05:40:58 PM
Boms uses the same format for everything, so what you see on the pager is what MFS get on the MDT's, there is nothing special for Elizabeth.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on August 01, 2007, 05:58:14 PM
Negative not based at Elizabeth but the new station does not receive the MDT signals inside which is why Elizabeth crews are sent GRN pager messages for details of the call.

Thanks SAFirey,
That clears it up a bit, Good to hear from someone in the know
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 01, 2007, 06:22:50 PM
How would he know, he isn't in MFS
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 01, 2007, 07:42:24 PM
How would he know, he isn't in MFS

Did I ever say I was :?

Get over yourself,or cant you find anything better to do than criticise people :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jimmy_91 on August 01, 2007, 08:13:17 PM
1929264 16:44:33 01-08-07 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 98

Just wondering where is station 98. Is that for testing or is it going to be one of the new stations???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 02, 2007, 08:57:32 AM
1929264 16:44:33 01-08-07 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 98

Just wondering where is station 98. Is that for testing or is it going to be one of the new stations???

It is used for training purposes Jimmy
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: TillerMan on August 02, 2007, 12:36:39 PM
Not exactly It is actually the MDT in Adelaide station, for those that don't know every station has an MDT. It is used alot for training though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 02, 2007, 11:13:11 PM
For all those that want a list of the station codes go here http://www.cfs.org.au/SACAD/brigade_short_name_codes.pdf
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 06, 2007, 10:27:35 AM
09:48:11   06-08-07   MFS: INC # 29 - 06/08/07 09:41,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,ECHUNGA RD,ECHUNGA, MAP 183 C 5 ,,INTWERSECTION OF DOLMAN,1218 1279*CFSRES: CFS Echunga Response

09:51:05   06-08-07   R1HQ: CFSRES: ECHUNGA & MT BARKER RESPOND 2 CAR MVA CNR DOLMAN RD & MAIN ST ECHUNGA 06/08/2007 9:50:33 AM

09:50:41   06-08-07   MFS: I.T. network being looked into by iIT I.T. DOWLING 06/08/2007 9:51:10 AM


Very interesting R1HQ has cut in there....wonder whats up at  MFS HQ ?!?!

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: firehawk on August 10, 2007, 05:43:28 PM
1908073 16:07:29 10-08-07 CREW REQUIRED RCR TRUCK VS CAR ADELAIDE RD MYPONGA MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW SHORTLY.

followed by:

1928012 16:16:09 10-08-07 MFS: INC # 45 - 10/08/07 16:15,RESPOND RCR,HINDMARSH VALLEY CFS,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CRN MYPONGA RD AND ADELAIDE RD HINDMARSH VALLEY,719 18624 73229*CFSRES:
 
1909068 16:16:03 10-08-07 MFS: INC # 45 - 10/08/07 16:15,RESPOND RCR,HINDMARSH VALLEY CFS,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CRN MYPONGA RD AND ADELAIDE RD HINDMARSH VALLEY,719 18624 73229*CFSRES:
 
1905665 16:15:50 10-08-07 MFS: INC # 45 - 10/08/07 16:15,RESPOND RCR,HINDMARSH VALLEY CFS,HINDMAR[H2VALLEY, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CRN MYPONGA RD AND ADELAIDE RD HINDMARSH VALLEY,719 18624 73229*CFSRES:

A bit of a delay there...?
 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on August 10, 2007, 06:43:57 PM
Looks like a f/service member may have heard a heads up.. ??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on August 10, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
The first page went to an SES pager group, not CFS....

Interesting to see that a number of SES pagers, in other areas, are seemingly not going through Adelaide Fire, but appear to be paged locally, by individuals.....   :|

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on August 10, 2007, 08:22:38 PM
Yeah, sorry meant Fire Serv. or Rescue (SES).. Basically really meant its wasnt from SAAS.  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on August 10, 2007, 09:51:10 PM
Probably got phoned through to their duty officer who rang link?? You'd think you'd just ring adelaide fire and get the whole lot going??

SAAS were paged at 1550 for that job. :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on August 11, 2007, 12:12:53 PM
Interesting to see that a number of SES pagers, in other areas, are seemingly not going through Adelaide Fire, but appear to be paged locally, by individuals.....   :|

most SES units appear to work differently to CFS in that what would be called the response page if it were CFS, only goes to the duty officer / unit manager, ie. one person.  That person then pages the rest of the unit to respond.  Eg. here's what I mean:

11:54:13  09-08-07  MFS: INC # 19 - 09/08/07 11:54,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,21 GULFVIEW RD,CHRISTIES BEACH, MAP 185 G 7 ,,CAR INTO HOUSE,439 72820 431*CFSRES: SES Noarlunga Response

11:59:48  09-08-07  PRIORITY 1 CALLOUT BLDG IMPACT REPORT TO UNIT REGARDS TREVOR SES Noarlunga Info

so the members of the unit only get the second page (5 mins later too) and respond based on that.  Seems a funny way to do things to me but there ya go.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Dave O on August 11, 2007, 01:17:58 PM
Its mainly the metro SES units that do this... And normally to a senior group (4-6 members)
Pretty much aimed at the jobs which may not require a response right that minute.
For example, it allows the duty officer or unit manager to recce a tree down, and perhaps postpone the task until outside working hours to make it more volunteer friendly. Instead of every member rushing to the unit...
A 5 minute difference in SES dispatch/arrival when local MFS/CFS are rolling isnt going to be a major problem..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crank on August 11, 2007, 02:02:23 PM
1908980 12:50:34 11-08-07 M/V INFO: ANYONE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING US WITH MAKING OUR NEW SPARE APPLIANCE OPERATIONAL WE WILL BE AT THE STATION FROM 13:30 WORKING ON IT. LT 1 - MAWSON BASE
                                               

Whats the go here?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 11, 2007, 02:30:31 PM
A breakdown replacement.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 11, 2007, 04:28:48 PM
1908980 12:50:34 11-08-07 M/V INFO: ANYONE INTERESTED IN ASSISTING US WITH MAKING OUR NEW SPARE APPLIANCE OPERATIONAL WE WILL BE AT THE STATION FROM 13:30 WORKING ON IT. LT 1 - MAWSON BASE
                                               

Whats the go here?

They have Moorak 34 as a spare at present :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on August 13, 2007, 02:52:04 PM
Quote
They have Moorak 34 as a spare at present

And what a beast it is, as long as you have a step ladder to get into the cab and can handle the lack of power steering :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on August 13, 2007, 03:01:57 PM
ha, those country types are a bit tougher than you (us) city wusses obviously ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on August 13, 2007, 05:24:18 PM
And perhaps a bit taller!!    :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 13, 2007, 07:59:46 PM
Like the page for South Coast SES to Assist MFS at a Hazmat job at Victor Harbour on Saturday :-o

That job was an oil spill a few kilometres long, believe they got the ses in for they're good broom work :evil:

That explains it Al :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on August 13, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
you should be tall enough to get in the cab Matt,that appliances served the brigade well so look after it(lololololol) it does not like going across hills so dont let anyone in little red cars drive it????? :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 14, 2007, 05:26:43 PM
15:50:26   14-08-07   LOFT: Message to Capts only: Region seeking X2 drivers to transport some 24 appliances over to KI on the 30th August and then get flown back. Meet at Region at 11am drive across and get flown back at around 7pm.Please let me know CFS Lofty Group Officers Info

Looks like a good plan by Region  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on August 14, 2007, 06:31:47 PM
Maybe the plan is to leave a few spare appliances over there for breakdowns, strike teams etc. good thinking.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on August 14, 2007, 06:34:19 PM
well since they are starting to fly strike teams in for a day and out that night this must be so there are some trucks for these crews.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on August 14, 2007, 06:55:17 PM
That is wahat they are going over there for, i thinks it's nine trucks or something that will be over there for the fire season so all they have to do is fly or ship us over there.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on August 14, 2007, 10:22:15 PM
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response

So now the MFS go over the boarder with no water available and through a CFS town
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on August 15, 2007, 08:46:39 AM
i believe MFS were stop called and Paringa attended with CFA...  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 15, 2007, 11:11:52 AM
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response


1919310 18:46:07 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE AERIAL CFSRES 14/08/2007 6:45:54 PM CFS Paringa Response

Also interesting that MFS did not page the additional information of being 40KMS out to Paringa Brigade whereas it was given to Renmark MFS :evil:

Plus they were responded almost 5 minutes later
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jimmy_91 on August 15, 2007, 11:24:42 AM
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response


1919310 18:46:07 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE AERIAL CFSRES 14/08/2007 6:45:54 PM CFS Paringa Response

Also interesting that MFS did not page the additional information of being 40KMS out to Paringa Brigade whereas it was given to Renmark MFS :evil:

Plus they were responded almost 5 minutes later

It is also interesting to note that there were no numbers for the brigade code at the end of the page. :? :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on August 15, 2007, 11:51:27 AM
judging by the date/time stamp and lack of brigade number i would suggest it has been sent via airsource.... a copy and paste jobbie..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on August 15, 2007, 10:54:36 PM
1918616 18:40:26 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE ARIEL - 40 KMS OUT,618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response


1919310 18:46:07 14-08-07 MFS: INC # 48 - 14/08/07 18:40,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,STURT HWY,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BETWEEN NEDS CORNER AND THE AERIAL CFSRES 14/08/2007 6:45:54 PM CFS Paringa Response

Also interesting that MFS did not page the additional information of being 40KMS out to Paringa Brigade whereas it was given to Renmark MFS :evil:

Plus they were responded almost 5 minutes later

It is also interesting to note that there were no numbers for the brigade code at the end of the page. :? :?


Also interesting that it took 3 messages to get the right message through
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on August 16, 2007, 02:29:12 AM
Also interesting that it took 3 messages to get the right message through

Hope someone fills out a "CRD Registration of Issues Form"
 (behind the CRD graphic on the CFS home page)
Unfortunately, Paringa probably have no idea that there was
an extra 5 minute delay paging them...

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on August 16, 2007, 11:38:59 AM
hi guys we had a intersting job the otherday we had VA neer freeling and the pager msg was

mfs daliy inc 27 respond RCR kapunda rd freeling rollover near cematry with entrapments. 75829,22124,26219

for you info thats kapunda rescue. freeling and hamley bridge rescue
the best part was its not even colse to hamley area infact nuriootpa should have come or gawler 359

and can anybody tell me why there are 2 RCR crews attending MVA'S on the first page now?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 16, 2007, 11:49:47 AM
"can anybody tell me why there are 2 RCR crews attending MVA'S on the first page now?"

Guess its better having more than nothing hehe....26219 doesnt mean rescue only...its Fire/Rescue...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on August 16, 2007, 12:31:52 PM
could just be incorrect data for that location in the system.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: dexterstu on August 16, 2007, 03:01:45 PM
Hey guys, I have just come across this forum.

Just wondering what site everyone uses to view the GRN?

I upload a GRN pager monitor to this address:

http://www.sesrescue.com.au/pager/ (http://www.sesrescue.com.au/pager/)

I have worked out all the tags myself, so I can't guarentee 100% accuracy, but they are pretty damn close.

I hide the site from search engines, but don't mind letting other emergency service personelle know the address.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on August 16, 2007, 05:56:06 PM
"1929262 15:41:24 16-08-07 MFS: Mr Morgan you are now #1 Safety Officer 16/08/2007 3:41:15 PM "

doh!! :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on August 17, 2007, 03:31:58 PM
thanks but 26219 came as a rescue appliance and its not the first time we have had the following

respond RCR baggot well road kapunda 3kms from truro car v truck kapunda ses kapunda cfs and eudunda cfs

ambos were paged almost 30mins b4 kapunda cfs and us another 10mins behind kapunda cfs responding with eudunda cfs yet a week earlier we had a mva closer to eudunda and they didnt get paged when the above job would have been at least 20mins travel and not even close to truro
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 18, 2007, 10:39:24 AM
08:33:50   18-08-07   MFS: BOMBER STATUS (date) FOR INFO: BOMBERS 581/582/563/564 ON (AUTO DISPATCH/45 MINS) FROM (Location). 18/08/2007 8:33:41 AM MFS

looks like preparation for this coming fire season is goin well :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 22, 2007, 10:08:17 AM
08:38:46   22-08-07   MFS: NORTON SUMMIT CAPTAIN RADIO IS BLOCKING OPEN TG 124, PLS CHECK RADIO - CONFIRM WITM ADEL FIRE 22/08/2007 8:38:01 AM

whoopsies

Apart from ringing MFS HQ on the phone, is there any contingencie's to call Adelaide Fire on the radio if 124 is Blocked with probably an "unknown problem"???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 22, 2007, 10:43:28 AM
08:38:46   22-08-07   MFS: NORTON SUMMIT CAPTAIN RADIO IS BLOCKING OPEN TG 124, PLS CHECK RADIO - CONFIRM WITM ADEL FIRE 22/08/2007 8:38:01 AM

whoopsies

Apart from ringing MFS HQ on the phone, is there any contingencie's to call Adelaide Fire on the radio if 124 is Blocked with probably an "unknown problem"???

You can use TG111 or at last resort TG150 :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on August 22, 2007, 05:39:06 PM
KIMBA AND LEHUNTE GROUP AGMS TO BE HELD AT WUDINNA MON 27TH AUG AT 8PM TO FORM NEW GROUP. ALL BRIGADES NEED TO ATTEND. CAP BUS LEAVING KIMBA STATION 6,30PM. NUMBERS TO PUMP PLEASE, 22/08/2007 4:46:31 PM CFS: KIMBA GROUP
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 26, 2007, 09:54:39 PM
Yeh i agree, its good that Seaford is doing a great job with turning out with plenty of crew  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on August 27, 2007, 12:40:29 AM
KIMBA AND LEHUNTE GROUP AGMS TO BE HELD AT WUDINNA MON 27TH AUG AT 8PM TO FORM NEW GROUP. ALL BRIGADES NEED TO ATTEND. CAP BUS LEAVING KIMBA STATION 6,30PM. NUMBERS TO PUMP PLEASE, 22/08/2007 4:46:31 PM CFS: KIMBA GROUP

Seems a bit of this happening in Region 6....Ceduna Group changed its name, and is now Western Eyre group....

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on August 29, 2007, 12:39:01 PM
found this odd..

1909000  11:20:53 29-08-07 IS ANYONE AVAIL TO INVESTIGATE CAR LEAKING FUEL IN ALGATE CAR PARK PLS CALL GARY ASAP 04088****3

1908991  11:36:42 29-08-07 MFS: INC # 19 - 29/08/07 11:36,RESPOND FUEL SPILLAGE,FENCHURCH RD,ALDGATE, MAP 157 L 2 ,,REAR CAR-PARK OF ALDGATE VILLAGE SHOPS, BRIGHT BLUE CAR LEAKING PETROL NEAR POSTOFFICE,8824*CFSRES:

1908998  11:44:04 29-08-07 MFS: INC # 19 - 29/08/07 11:43,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,FENCHURCH RD,ALDGATE, MAP 157 L 2 ,,FUEL SPILL, REAR OF VILLAGE SHOPS, DEFAULT FORALDGATE,9019*CFSRES:

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on August 30, 2007, 04:17:04 PM
1908083 13:56:52 30-08-07 MFS: INC # 36 - 30/08/07 13:56,RESPOND SHED FIRE,STRATHALBYN RD,MILANG, MAP 000 0 0 ,,1 KM FRONM MILANG,15424 73329*CFSRES: SES: Strathalbyn

Oops someone made a Boo Boo :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on August 30, 2007, 05:23:12 PM
08065 16:17:50 30-08-07 TASK 25 PRIORITY P2 CALLERS NAME GARSDEN JO- PH 8555**** NUMBER 19 KIGHTLEY RD GOOLWA 5214 - STORM DAMAGED WATER ENTERING VIA WALLS - DAMAGE NUMBER 17 - PLANKS AWAY FROM WALL EXPOSING DOWNSTAIRS WEATHER SES: Saddleworth Duty Crew


Loooong drive from saddleworth to here :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on August 30, 2007, 05:26:14 PM
1908083 13:56:52 30-08-07 MFS: INC # 36 - 30/08/07 13:56,RESPOND SHED FIRE,STRATHALBYN RD,MILANG, MAP 000 0 0 ,,1 KM FRONM MILANG,15424 73329*CFSRES: SES: Strathalbyn

Oops someone made a Boo Boo :|

A few minor mistakes I saw today on the paging website, but generally they were good & accurate.

I telephoned in a damaged veranda tasking this afternoon & the 132500 went to 'music on hold' before answering. So the operators have been busy.

SES SCC will be active by volunteers & paid staff from 1700 Thurs to 0700 Friday. this has been preplanned in case of major damage when the storm reaches Adelaide.

Update: SES SCC & RCC's closed at approximately 2000 on Thurs.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 31, 2007, 01:56:04 PM
11:42:40   31-08-07   STRATH 24P NO OPERATIONAL AT STATION   < sounds like an link operator from another country.

11:46:12   31-08-07   PLS PH IAN SPENCE 0885363639 STRATH T4P NOW NOW OPERATIONAL AT STATION   < woopsies again

11:50:18   31-08-07   DUE TO INCORRECT LAST 2 MESSAGES FROM PAGING SERVICE MESSAGE SHOULD READ STRATH 24P NOW OPERATIONAL - SIMMO    < if no success do it urself :)

Link paging service compared to do-it-yourself airsource?   airsource anyday hehe
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on August 31, 2007, 05:23:59 PM
Should have just done it themselves to begin with..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on September 02, 2007, 03:28:10 PM
1925582 22:39:39 01-09-07 PA181 DRIVE SLOW - WINGFIELD FOOTY CLUB - MAJOR BRAWL 40 PEOPLE - SAPOL ON WAY

 :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on September 02, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
1925582 22:39:39 01-09-07 PA181 DRIVE SLOW - WINGFIELD FOOTY CLUB - MAJOR BRAWL 40 PEOPLE - SAPOL ON WAY

 :-o

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 02, 2007, 08:36:40 PM
40 person brawl... At the Wingfield Footy Club..?? - Thats not major!! Thats just the kids out the back !!


:D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on September 03, 2007, 04:02:56 PM
1911244 14:13:27 03-09-07 CFS: ***** - HOWDY, CAN YOU PLEASE RING ME WHEN CONV RE; A COUPLE OF SHIFTS IN SCC FOR YOU.... COME RELAX, DISPATCH BOMBERS... WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT? CHEERS **** ********> 03/09/2007 14:13:16
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 03, 2007, 04:13:41 PM
open invite???  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on September 03, 2007, 05:52:21 PM
1911244 14:13:27 03-09-07 CFS: ***** - HOWDY, CAN YOU PLEASE RING ME WHEN CONV RE; A COUPLE OF SHIFTS IN SCC FOR YOU.... COME RELAX, DISPATCH BOMBERS... WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT? CHEERS **** ********> 03/09/2007 14:13:16

man, the human resources department have really lost the enthusiasm they once possessed for job writing.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on September 04, 2007, 03:15:55 PM
1911244 14:13:27 03-09-07 CFS: ***** - HOWDY, CAN YOU PLEASE RING ME WHEN CONV RE; A COUPLE OF SHIFTS IN SCC FOR YOU.... COME RELAX, DISPATCH BOMBERS... WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT? CHEERS **** ********> 03/09/2007 14:13:16

Interesting seeing as it wasnt on the paging site at that time :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on September 04, 2007, 03:21:47 PM
SAFirey - taken from the Tea Tree Gully SES paging site... has far less filtering than the sacfs.org one
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on September 04, 2007, 03:40:39 PM
Gotcha...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 04, 2007, 06:18:25 PM
15:39:26   04-09-07   MU71 Cat2 Hartmann Rd, Monarto SAAS Murray Bridge

MFS: INC # 54 - 04/09/07 17:05,RESPOND Assist SAAS,HARTMANN RD,MONARTO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,WASHDOWN AFTER EQUINE EVENT, DEFAULT FOR MONARTO TRUCK U/S,36624*CFSRES: CFS Murray Bridge Response

MFS: PRIORITY 2..~~~ ASSIST WITH WASHDOWN OF CREW AND AMBULANCE FOR EQUINE FLU PRECAUTIONS. CFS Murray Bridge Response

interesting...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on September 04, 2007, 06:56:42 PM
its standard if there is a possible infection like the equine flu then we have to wash down better to be safe the stuff it up for every one
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 07, 2007, 10:31:53 AM
09:35:20   07-09-07   MPS: INC # 19 - 07/09/0="89:35,RESPOND Marine Vessel,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VAlDEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

happy valley would got a shock since the only place a marine vessel would be is on the reservoir!

09:37:18   07-09-07   MFS: INC # 19 - 07/09/07 09:37,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VALLEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

:wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on September 13, 2007, 04:42:56 PM
Quote
09:35:20   07-09-07   MPS: INC # 19 - 07/09/0="89:35,RESPOND Marine Vessel,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VAlDEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

happy valley would got a shock since the only place a marine vessel would be is on the reservoir!

09:37:18   07-09-07   MFS: INC # 19 - 07/09/07 09:37,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TAYLORS RD,HAPPY VALLEY, MAP 166 B 13 ,,CNR HAPPY VALLEY DVE,421 8032*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

And another one.......

MFS: INC # 47 - 13/09/07 15:24,RESPOND Marine Vessel,FAIRBANKS DR,PARALOWIE, MAP 70 E 2 ,,2 X CAR COLLISION,329 9119*CFSRES:

MFS: INC # 47 - 13/09/07 15:27,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,FAIRBANKS DR,PARALOWIE, MAP 70 E 2 ,,CNR KINGS RD 2 X CAR COLLISION,321 9119*CFSRES:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 13, 2007, 07:28:04 PM
sounds like a comm's operator is being overworked ;)   

"oops...Adelaide Fire...did it again"
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Lizzy on September 13, 2007, 07:56:31 PM
SES don't think like a fire service.......They run job boards which fill up and they will work all night finishing all the jobs and clearing the board.

Fire Services call in resources until each job has been resourced.....


its true and i have noticed that some units do this more then others. and thats the way it shouldnt be we are all volunteers so why cant we all work together. in some situations we have to so why not sing out for assistance when we need it! i am a member of the SEs and i know our unit is bad for this but there is nothing members can do that will make them seek assistance.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on September 14, 2007, 10:12:52 AM
SES don't think like a fire service.......They run job boards which fill up and they will work all night finishing all the jobs and clearing the board.

Fire Services call in resources until each job has been resourced.....
its true and i have noticed that some units do this more then others. and thats the way it shouldnt be we are all volunteers so why cant we all work together. in some situations we have to so why not sing out for assistance when we need it! i am a member of the SEs and i know our unit is bad for this but there is nothing members can do that will make them seek assistance.

Indications are that this is changing with major storm events going to a AIIMS style management. Thus the vehicles & crew will be combined into staging areas and allocated taskings. I understand that possible staging sites have been identified in the metro area. This would be a similar response structure to what happened in the Renmark storm event.

Unknown if CFS crews would be involved in the metro area because of risk of depleting of resources in the country areas.

But then, we are talking to taskings that limit structural damage not life threat. Yes SES can respond faster than tree doctors or builders, but sometimes do the tasks really need to be done within a few hours ?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2007, 11:08:15 AM
the way i see it trees that block a road should be done asap...cause of the possibility it will cause other potential events.

1.  ambulance going cat1-2 having to use up quite valuable time to traverse to an accessible route.
2.  vehicles crashing into it...happens more in the hills where tight corners and crests exist...and inattentive drivers...
3.  Fire service having to possibly take a much longer route to a incident.

and also a quick response, makes the person who called 000 or 132500 happy  :-D

we all respond to incidents, but we also undertake incident prevention.  :wink:

#end rant...good way to deviate from tafe work  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 15, 2007, 11:07:07 AM
10:25:03   15-09-07   UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info


Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on September 15, 2007, 12:05:51 PM
10:25:03   15-09-07   UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info


Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??
I thought Region 1 was on 124?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 15, 2007, 12:18:13 PM
thats exactly whats got me puzzled...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on September 17, 2007, 03:52:37 PM
10:25:03   15-09-07   UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info


Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??


just mingers

i rekon i saw another page correcting that sent out afterwards?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on September 17, 2007, 05:10:38 PM
10:25:03   15-09-07   UPST: FYI: BE REMINDED THAT AS OF TODAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE RESPONSE PAGES AND WHEN RESPONDING APPLIANCES RADIO ADELAIDE FIRE on GRN 111. THANKS CAPTAIN :-} 15/09/2007 CFS Upper Sturt Info


Any reason why this is occuring??, urban fringe only??


just mingers

i rekon i saw another page correcting that sent out afterwards?

you saw right mack.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on September 20, 2007, 04:21:06 PM
1919203 15:34:29 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON TO FOLLOW, PLEASE DO NOT RESOND CFS: FLINDERS GROUP
1919207 15:34:27 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON TO FOLLOW, PLEASE DO NOT RESOND CFS: Stirling North

1919203 15:36:29 20-09-07 STLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 20/09/2007 15:35:31 CFS: FLINDERS GROUP

1919203 15:40:10 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON COMPLETED, PLEASE RESPOND TO FUTURE ALARMS AS PER NORMAL CFS: FLINDERS GROUP
1919207 15:40:08 20-09-07 FIRE ALARM TEST FOR PT AUGUSTA PRISON COMPLETED, PLEASE RESPOND TO FUTURE ALARMS AS PER NORMAL CFS: Stirling North


 
1919203 15:43:38 20-09-07 STLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 20/09/2007 15:42:38 CFS: FLINDERS GROUP
1919207 15:43:36 20-09-07 STLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 20/09/2007 15:42:38 CFS: Stirling North


Doh..... :oops:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 25, 2007, 11:00:27 PM
21:59:51   25-09-07   MBKR RESPOND TO FIRE ALARM ADELAIDE HILLS, HOMEMAKER LOT 221 DUTTON RD, MT BARKER *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 25/09/2007 21:58:54 CFS Mount Barker Response


22:16:47   25-09-07   MFS: INC # 89 - 25/09/07 22:16,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,DADDOW RD,MT BARKER, MAP 172 Q 5 ,,FLAMES SEEN FROM HARVEY NORMAN,1279 1268*CFSRES: CFS Mount Barker Response


Thats why a good response to fixed alarm is a must.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on September 25, 2007, 11:17:19 PM
is daddow and dutton rds the same building?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 25, 2007, 11:33:04 PM
sounds like the caller just rambled on with the street he/she lived on....ie doesnt know his/her own town lol
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: filtered on September 26, 2007, 01:11:49 AM
21:59:51   25-09-07   MBKR RESPOND TO FIRE ALARM ADELAIDE HILLS, HOMEMAKER LOT 221 DUTTON RD, MT BARKER *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 25/09/2007 21:58:54 CFS Mount Barker Response


22:16:47   25-09-07   MFS: INC # 89 - 25/09/07 22:16,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,DADDOW RD,MT BARKER, MAP 172 Q 5 ,,FLAMES SEEN FROM HARVEY NORMAN,1279 1268*CFSRES: CFS Mount Barker Response


Thats why a good response to fixed alarm is a must.

Who says there wasn't a good response to the fixed alarm?

I was listening to the scanner at the time and from the sounds of it they had two appliances on scene at the rear of the premises.  They may not have been in view of the caller who reported the flame, but it sounded like they were still on scene dealing with the situation.

Really shits me when people give other brigades a bad name by not getting their facts straight and casting aspersions on their response!

And no, I'm not from the brigade, I just know how pissed I'd be if the same thing was said about my brigade.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 26, 2007, 07:56:08 AM
i wasnt refering to mt barker at all filtered. just the service as a whole.

its just a good example of when a fixed alarm is more than ya think.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on September 26, 2007, 09:35:43 AM
MFS: INC # 4 - 26/09/07 01:15,RESPOND Tree Down,PEAKE CFS,PEAKE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TREE OVER ROAD 1 KM EAST PEAKE - FROM SAPOL - NO OTHER INFO FROM THEM,72729*CFSRES: SES Murray Bridge

MFS: STOP FOR CALL/ CLOSER SERVICE IS BEING DESPATCHED, THANK YOU SES Murray Bridge

MFS: INC # 4 - 26/09/07 01:21,RESPOND Tree Down,PEAKE CFS,PEAKE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TREE OVER RD 1KM EAST PEAKE - FROM SAPOL - NO FURTHER INFO AVAIL - P1,37524*CFSRES: CFS Peake Response

MFS: STOP FROM POLICE TREE REMOVED CFS Peake Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on October 02, 2007, 03:25:23 PM
MFS: INC # 41 - 02/10/07 13:03,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,VINE VALE RD,TANUNDA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CORNER OF LIGHT PASS CLEAN UP ONLY FROM AMB,24324 631*CFSRES: CFS: ANGASTON GROUP

MFS: INC # 41 - 02/10/07 13:05,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,VINE VALE RD,TANUNDA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,UPDATE FROM AMB 2 X PERSONS TRAPPED,24119*CFSRES: CFS: Nuriootpa

oops,  :-(
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 02, 2007, 03:43:35 PM
wasnt much of a delay,  3 car accident, one person was still retrived by Rescue 51 from a school oval in Tanunda...only a few other patients with lesser injuries.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 02, 2007, 05:16:29 PM
wasnt much of a delay,  3 car accident, one person was still retrived by Rescue 51 from a school oval in Tanunda...only a few other patients with lesser injuries.

no delay at all..

first rescue and fire were still sent initially..

goes to show though, that ya cant trust initial information no matter the source... apparently 1 person extricated ?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on October 02, 2007, 08:12:16 PM
1909029 13:25:40 02-10-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 02/10/07 13:23,RESPOND To,6 STIRLING CT,STRATHALBYN, MAP 251 P 2 ,,PATIENT FROM HOSPITAL IN 80S SMOULDERING NEAR BACK DOOR,1558*CFSRES:

anybody know whats going on here?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Smallflame on October 03, 2007, 12:21:54 AM
is daddow and dutton rds the same building?

Yeah, the new homemaker centre I believe... Its where the beds and the electronics are kept i hear...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: squiddy on October 03, 2007, 06:09:20 AM
1909029 13:25:40 02-10-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 02/10/07 13:23,RESPOND To,6 STIRLING CT,STRATHALBYN, MAP 251 P 2 ,,PATIENT FROM HOSPITAL IN 80S SMOULDERING NEAR BACK DOOR,1558*CFSRES:

anybody know whats going on here?

I think it was just very badly worded. Perhaps a person in their 80's just out of hospital called because something was smouldering near their back door?

Mind you, I did a double take when I first read it...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on October 03, 2007, 10:46:24 PM
16:29:28 03-10-07 MFS: INC # 56 - 03/10/07 16:27,RESPOND To,BARMERA CFS,BARMERA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,JETTY AT LAKE BONNY,39124*CFSRES

That gives you a lot of information. Wonder what it was?  Wonder if they can pump out of the lake if theres a fire? now that its closed off to the River
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 03, 2007, 11:37:37 PM
I was there late last year, and they could pump for months if they had too.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on October 04, 2007, 09:47:04 AM
Good rumors made it sound as if it was in big trouble and that they might get blue green algy now with no current.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on October 04, 2007, 12:38:44 PM
16:29:28 03-10-07 MFS: INC # 56 - 03/10/07 16:27,RESPOND To,BARMERA CFS,BARMERA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,JETTY AT LAKE BONNY,39124*CFSRES

That gives you a lot of information. Wonder what it was?  Wonder if they can pump out of the lake if theres a fire? now that its closed off to the River

The actual jetty was on fire. I thought it was a strange page, not much info so i did some investigating  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 04, 2007, 02:11:30 PM
Good rumors made it sound as if it was in big trouble and that they might get blue green algy now with no current.

Those problems may exist if the water stays stagnent, however if needed im sure it could be used for fire fighting purposes.  The water levels were good then though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on October 06, 2007, 12:06:53 PM
09:52:14   06-10-07   MFS: INC # 29 - 06/10/07 09:50,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,WAIKERIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,3 PERSONS ,UNCONCIOUS AND TRAPPED,13 KM TOWARDS BARMERA,35519*CFSRES: CFS Waikerie Response


11:20:27   06-10-07   MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MVA STURT HWY WAIKERIE - 3 FATALITIES - CFS & SAPOL IN ATTENDANCE - FROM DSC MILLER 06/10/2007 11:18:17 AM CFS HQ Info
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on October 06, 2007, 08:22:19 PM
Not sure if it is interesting but certainly tragic. The news report was fairly detailed on the alleged cause. One interesting fact was Barmera SES was responded as well -


1928012 10:58:32 06-10-07 VEHICLE ACCIDENT MEET CHRIS AT HEADQUARTERS AT 12.15PM FROM STUART
1918239 10:58:30 06-10-07 VEHICLE ACCIDENT MEET CHRIS AT HEADQUARTERS AT 12.15PM FROM STUART
1918239 11:20:00 06-10-07 CHANGE OF TIME FOR RCR CHRIS WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY IN HEAD QUATERS NOW FROM STAURT
this was after a phone call from SAPOL Riverland direct to the Unit Manager (Stuart)
The reason this was interesting is that this is a fairly common in this area, Barmera is one of the best SES RCR units in the State (those who know Stuart knows how pationate he is about RCR).
Barmera were called to provide traffic control, Berri were put on notice in case relief were required. Another interesting fact is this -

1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53

Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on October 06, 2007, 08:26:34 PM
Multiple persons trapped in multiple cars, there should have been two rescue trucks going.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 06, 2007, 09:27:32 PM
Quote
1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53

Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers

thats a standard press button message to say need more crew to get the truck going,  often pressed around the 4min mark after reciept of callout in the aim of getting the Crew on the Road within 6 minutes.   pretty much a silent Fire siren.    For this sort of callout, forget a simple pager message,  getting the fire siren going can ensure those in Blackspots get the message theres a going job right now.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on October 06, 2007, 09:33:20 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Zippy cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 06, 2007, 11:11:21 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 07, 2007, 11:00:48 AM
04:56:32   07-10-07   MFS: INC # 15 - 07/10/07 04:57,RESPOND Private Alarm,PYRITES RD,BRUKUNGA, MAP 150 L 15 ,,BRAKUNGA STATE TRAINING CENTRE - 2 ALARMS - CBR A - WEST AND CBR B - EAST,1288 1298*CFSRES:

eek

and something that is strange presently is that:

04:36:27   07-10-07   MFS: INC # 14 - 07/10/07 04:37,RESPOND Private Alarm,NAIRNE RD,WOODSIDE, MAP 137 C 7 ,,WOODSIDE ARMY BARRACKS,1378 1358*CFSRES: CFS Woodside Response

we were responded 20mins after the alarm initally dropped  :|   and it seems the Alarms connected directly to stations arent sending out WDSD: FIXED ALARM RESPOND STATION....so something has changed    :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on October 07, 2007, 01:25:32 PM
they are private alarms so it is a security company eg chubb who rings MFS
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on October 07, 2007, 02:20:49 PM
Naracoorte had the same problem some 2 weeks ago FIP at station went into alarm pagers did not go off...It was luck that a course was on at the time.Techs came and could not find a fault in the system.....Wish they would get a move on with the change over......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 07, 2007, 02:56:05 PM
have to wonder if this is a Telstra problem  :|   lol...sorry i love blaming telstra  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: P P Snake on October 07, 2007, 07:18:34 PM
bittenyakka, they are showing private alarms to Woodside Army camp because of what zippy posted, its not monitored by a security company, its the army camp ringing the ALERTS number to find out why no one has attended the alarm, and ADELAIDE FIRE paging out for a response :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 08, 2007, 09:13:51 AM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.

What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..


Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 08, 2007, 09:55:41 AM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.

What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..


Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.

I agree with RescueHazmat, 3 reported trapped, easy 1st and 2nd rescue on initial call.
It's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 08, 2007, 10:00:19 AM
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It's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.

its SOP, quite often not followed  :|.....2 appliances responding to AFA's,  quite often cant be from the same station due to the chance of not enough crew responding.   theres always gonna be "the day" its more than a AFA, so having 2 appliances initally can knock it down before the fire takes hold....hopefully.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 08, 2007, 10:06:49 AM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.

What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..


Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.

I agree with RescueHazmat, 3 reported trapped, easy 1st and 2nd rescue on initial call.
It's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.


i still feel differantly, if you have multiple vehicles with entrapments in seperate vehicles then sure go 2nd alarm of greater if necessary... but it is up to the first arriving officer to upgrade alarm, not the operator doing intial dispatch. Opens up new issues when we already have too many with responses.

from my experience and knowledge (no not from an RCR brigade) you shouldnt really be getting to work with more than one set of tools on a single vehicle...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 08, 2007, 10:26:25 AM
Thats fair enough mack, but as an officer if saw a page like that for our brigade the first thing i would do is respond second rescue.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 08, 2007, 01:23:28 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.

What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..


Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.

2 Vehicles, 3 reported trapped and unconcious.. Even if the 'only' information was "3 trapped" I would send a second rescue on the ouset as the possibilities are alot higher that a second vehicle involved. (Particularly in areas where rescue resources are some distance..)


I believe in the paper the Ch.Inspector who witnessed the accidents made  reference to thinking there were 4 trapped.

I wouldn't take the risk and "hope" they weren't in the second vehicle.. Its much easier to put a stop back than respond them 15 minutes later because you have multiple entrapments in multiple vehicles..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on October 08, 2007, 07:26:53 PM
Mate you hit the nail on the head. 2nd rescue is about 40 kms away from the town concerned(and as I said were responded by SAPOL later for traffic).
The closest rescue to me about 18kms away, but that would depend in which direction the MVA is. Obviously if it was towards Loxton, they would get the nod. I know in Victoria there is a lot of discussion regarding too many resources crowding the scene. However around here we don't seem to have that problem often & when we do a discussion is held with all of the services involved and if there is nothing to do some go back home-simple.
This works with local SAMFS, CFS & my SES counterparts. Also some of the units here have some specialised gear (lighting towers, traffic lights etc) which we call on for bad MVA's/ Fatals, which means I can rest my people while nothing is going on, again less people at the scene.
Anyway I wasn't being critical of the brigade involved (have worked with them before & not a bad bunch of guys who know what they are doing), just surprised second rescue wasn't responded automatically.
cheers chook
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on October 08, 2007, 07:51:48 PM
Should have been a 2nd alarm Rescue response on the initial call.

What do you base that theory on? purely because of reported entrapments? sounds a bit daft to me mate..


Bittenyakka - the alarm at woodside army barracks is conencted direct to woodside station.

I agree with RescueHazmat, 3 reported trapped, easy 1st and 2nd rescue on initial call.
It's like saying responding two BA briageds to a possible structure fire is a bit daft.


i still feel differantly, if you have multiple vehicles with entrapments in seperate vehicles then sure go 2nd alarm of greater if necessary... but it is up to the first arriving officer to upgrade alarm, not the operator doing intial dispatch. Opens up new issues when we already have too many with responses.

from my experience and knowledge (no not from an RCR brigade) you shouldnt really be getting to work with more than one set of tools on a single vehicle...

Yes you can use more than one set of tools on a single vehicle. You just need to keep the communication up and work together even more than normally.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: countrygirl on October 08, 2007, 10:13:04 PM
Johno,

Yes, it was tragic and perhaps your "BLIEVE" comment might apply to the young lad who was right behind one of the cars involved.
He certainly believed what he saw and it affected him as well.
By the time he got to his home in Waikerie, he needed medical attention for shock.
So how bout you spare a thought for other people in future?
The lad I speak about is related to me.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 08, 2007, 10:34:01 PM
Countrygirl.. What are you talking about?

For starters.. The "BLEVE" tag in Jono's signature stands for "BOILING LIQUID EXPANDING VAPOR EXPLOSION" (BLEVE).. Not Believe, or 'Blieve'..

Secondly, I don't think he meant any dis-respect by the post, if anything, bringing light to the tradgedy!.. I know when I saw the post it was the first I knew of the incident and straight away phoned a family member who I knew was riding a motorcycle in that general area that morning to make sure it wasnt them !!

So how bout you spare a thought for other people before openly attacking them on here !.. Especially when you don't know the intention of their posting, nor the related content in it! .. Because I "believe" Jono meant nothing negative or dis-respectful by it!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on October 08, 2007, 11:02:21 PM
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1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53

Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers

thats a standard press button message to say need more crew to get the truck going,  often pressed around the 4min mark after reciept of callout in the aim of getting the Crew on the Road within 6 minutes.   pretty much a silent Fire siren.    For this sort of callout, forget a simple pager message,  getting the fire siren going can ensure those in Blackspots get the message theres a going job right now.
Often pressed 4 minutes after reciept of call... Notice this page came out 5 seconds later...?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 09, 2007, 12:01:58 AM
hehe mate,   4mins hit the button, hopefully at 5mins everyone's got it :P....or i could hammer it into there head with the siren right away!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on October 09, 2007, 12:08:55 AM
Countrygirl.. What are you talking about?

For starters.. The "BLEVE" tag in Jono's signature stands for "BOILING LIQUID EXPANDING VAPOR EXPLOSION" (BLEVE).. Not Believe, or 'Blieve'..

Secondly, I don't think he meant any dis-respect by the post, if anything, bringing light to the tradgedy!.. I know when I saw the post it was the first I knew of the incident and straight away phoned a family member who I knew was riding a motorcycle in that general area that morning to make sure it wasnt them !!

So how bout you spare a thought for other people before openly attacking them on here !.. Especially when you don't know the intention of their posting, nor the related content in it! .. Because I "believe" Jono meant nothing negative or dis-respectful by it!

Thanks bro,  :-D Saved me from saying it  :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 09, 2007, 09:46:02 AM
 
1909070 20:46:28 08-10-07 MFS: INC # 75 - 08/10/07 20:48,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,HINDMARSH ESP,HAYBOROUGH, MAP 310 P 5 ,,SMALL FIRE ON BEACH AT CHITON ROCKS NEAR WALKWAY,719 18924*CFSRES: CFS Waitpinga Response

Interesting, Waitping being called to the port elliot side of victor, apart from MFS there are easily 3 brigades closer than them, especially port elliot who is only about 3kms away. :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 09, 2007, 09:47:58 AM
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1919385 09:52:19 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53
1919390 09:52:17 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53

Very quick call for more crew? Should this have generated a call for a second rescue crew? (3 trapped) Not that I think it would have made a difference, but if we are to fix on going response issues then everyone needs to play by the rules. If faced with the same message I would definitely have responded a second team. Cheers

thats a standard press button message to say need more crew to get the truck going,  often pressed around the 4min mark after reciept of callout in the aim of getting the Crew on the Road within 6 minutes.   pretty much a silent Fire siren.    For this sort of callout, forget a simple pager message,  getting the fire siren going can ensure those in Blackspots get the message theres a going job right now.
Often pressed 4 minutes after reciept of call... Notice this page came out 5 seconds later...?

im guessing someone knew about the job and hit the button in the station to get a crew, in the meantime while the page dialed out adelaide fire must have put out the response...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 09, 2007, 09:50:38 AM
According to a differant website it was 4mins gap between initial and more crew page
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on October 09, 2007, 04:26:22 PM
the pages were:

09:52:14 06-10-07 MFS: INC # 29 - 06/10/07 09:50,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,WAIKERIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,3 PERSONS ,UNCONCIOUS AND TRAPPED,13 KM TOWARDS BARMERA,35519*CFSRES: CFS Waikerie Response

09:56:16 06-10-07 WAIK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND WAIKERIE STATION 06-10-07 09:53 CFS Waikerie Response

So there was a 4 minute delay in the "more crew" page however the time put in the pager message by the alpha decoder box says 09:53. You would expect this box to get it's time off the paging network so to me that indicates the button was pushed pretty promptly after initial page but then took 3 minutes to dial out and send. So might be worth a Waikerie person looking into that.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 09, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
actually..i find after pressing any button on the alpha decoder its usually a minute before it comes out....i normally wait till 4mins have passed (yeh i generally find myself at the station after 60 seconds lol)...pressing the button too early doesnt make the already driving responders go any faster hehe.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on October 09, 2007, 05:42:19 PM
MFS: From ACO X XXXXXXX, please be advised that due to staffing constraints, the ERV Gallantry will be off duty
untill 1800hrs 09/10/2007. Other services being advised. Pls acknowledge receipt of this page to Comcen

Gee wont the UFU be pleased about that.  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 09, 2007, 06:07:40 PM
isnt that boat just on standby being used rarely???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 09, 2007, 07:23:06 PM
MFS: INC # 60 - 09/10/07 18:28,RESPOND To,MONTGOMERY CT,STRATHALBYN, MAP 251 J 6 ,,TRANSFORMER EXPLODED, POWER LINES DOWN - ETSA NOTIFIED,1558*CFSRES: CFS Strathalbyn Response
MFS: INC # 61 - 09/10/07 18:28,RESPOND Tree Fire,290 LOBBAN RD,MONASH, MAP 000 0 0 ,,FIRE AT REAR OF THIS PROPERTY,39424*CFSRES: CFS Monash Response

MFS: INC # 62 - 09/10/07 18:32,RESPOND To,SANDSTONE AV,NARACOORTE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,UNKNOWN TYPE FIRE, CALLERS # 0887620592,5629*CFSRES: CFS Naracoorte Response

MFS: INC # 63 - 09/10/07 18:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BORDERTOWN RD, 23-30KM FROM PINNAROO,WEST SIDE, GRID REF 780 724,34519*CFSRES: CFS Pinnaroo Response

MFS: INC # 64 - 09/10/07 18:37,RESPOND To,MENINGIE ,MENINGIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,FIRE NEAR SILOS WEST END OF TOWN,32124*CFSRES: CFS Meningie Response

MFS: INC # 65 - 09/10/07 18:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HAHNDORF CFS,HAHNDORF, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SMALL GRASS FIRE ON HAHNFDORF TO ECHUNGA ROAD, 3KM FROM HAHNDORF ON LEFT HAND SIDE,1228*CFSRES: CFS Heysen Group Officers Response

Busy 10mins at Adelaide Fire...at the same time...4 Lots of dispatchs to Private Alarms around Adelaide...Geez...

Radio operations woulda been busy since all of those incidents are spread over 3 Regional talkgroups lol
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on October 09, 2007, 08:14:00 PM
Thats what they're paid for.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 09, 2007, 08:21:47 PM
yep!

but the real test is....will the system hold up to the riggers of the service in the summer...  8-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 10, 2007, 12:09:53 PM
more of a strange response...

MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:27,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR INTERSECTION OF TURNERS RD. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.,4719 8424
9019*CFSRES:

then

MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:30,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR TURNERS AVE. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER. ASSIST BLACKWOOD,4924*CFSRES:


should of been 4719 & 4924 to begin with...


have to wonder if some data has been rejiggled lately without consultation with all groups/parties when ya see differant/strange responses going down...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: wilma on October 10, 2007, 12:11:10 PM
1909332 10:29:05 10-10-07 MFS: INC # 34 - 10/10/07 10:30,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,INGLEWOOD (SE) ,INGLEWOOD (SE), MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAR ROLL OVER, NO ENTRAP, ADEL - MANNUM,ROAD, 2KM PAST INGLEWOOD TOWARDS,CHAIN OF PONDS,5968*CFSRES: CFS Bordertown Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on October 10, 2007, 12:32:58 PM
1909332 10:29:05 10-10-07 MFS: INC # 34 - 10/10/07 10:30,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,INGLEWOOD (SE) ,INGLEWOOD (SE), MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAR ROLL OVER, NO ENTRAP, ADEL - MANNUM,ROAD, 2KM PAST INGLEWOOD TOWARDS,CHAIN OF PONDS,5968*CFSRES: CFS Bordertown Response
Thats a long drive for Bordertown. Mack, you may be right with someone fiddling in town. We have found one week we get responded somewhere (in our area) and the next week we dont. Bizzare happenings up in town unless its operators just having some "manual input" into responses?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 10, 2007, 12:49:07 PM
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INGLEWOOD (SE) ,INGLEWOOD (SE)

would have been the trigger which put bordertown onto that job...just some input error...since theres probably a Inglewood in the SE too.

Just like theres Oakbank in the Hills  and a Oakbank in Region 3 or 4 (pretty much middle of nowhere tho hehe)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 10, 2007, 03:31:40 PM
Have had the same problem as well one minute were responded somewhere for something and then a week later a different brigade goes for the same place  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ltdan on October 10, 2007, 08:26:12 PM
Quite interesting to see what is happening, I am wondering if some data for the SACAD is being placed into Boms etc which is causing some of these problems.  I am aware that this was the plan with the BOMS brigades.  Not sure if this has occurred yet. This could be why we might have some of these unusual responses.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on October 11, 2007, 07:00:56 AM
well they have not collected any data yet for SACAD so they better start pulling there finger and get to work.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 11, 2007, 08:44:37 AM
Yes they have, back in Febuary or March they did :)....i believe it was probably region 1 and 2 they were doing at the time.

It involved a large print map,  and precise boundary drawing of primary and dual response area's.  and probably more but i cant remember  :roll:.

At that time we had discussions with neighbouring brigades/groups on exactly where the line meets to avoid future politics.  :wink:.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 11, 2007, 09:00:31 AM
1905686 08:18:00 11-10-07 MESSAGE ONLY 701 IS NOW OFF LINE RETURNING TO ADELAIDE REPLACEMENT ARRIVING, THIS AFTER NOON MFS Mt Gambier Response

Heres an interesting pager message any idea why 701 is returning to Adelaide  :| :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Comms on October 11, 2007, 09:24:44 AM
I can see how this would have happenned as 'Mannum rd Inglewood' is not in Boms.

You are correct Zippy, if 'Adelaide to Mannum rd' is entered Hermitage is reconmended although looking at the map Paracombe may have been better. Rescue would have been selected from the map and probably would have been Tea Tree Gully. Would this have been correct?

As for the concept of fiddling responses, that is ridiculous. We do our best with information the caller provides and the resources available to provide the right response for any incident. Bring on SACAD!

I hope this helps.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hicksflat14 on October 11, 2007, 10:48:18 AM
more of a strange response...

MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:27,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR INTERSECTION OF TURNERS RD. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.,4719 8424
9019*CFSRES:

then

MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:30,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR TURNERS AVE. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER. ASSIST BLACKWOOD,4924*CFSRES:


should of been 4719 & 4924 to begin with...


have to wonder if some data has been rejiggled lately without consultation with all groups/parties when ya see differant/strange responses going down...


Negative to both of those. That response was correct and as per agreements. Responses aren't specified per street, the response is specified by a zone and the zone is then assigned to a street.
Olave Hill Road Hawthorndene is in the same response zone as Upper Sturt Road Upper Sturt. Since Upper Sturt Road is so long the response for a RCR has been defined as being rescue from Blackwood and Stirling with fire cover from Upper Sturt. So what happened was exactly what it is set in the computer system and agreed to. If it was Turners Ave cnr Olave Hill Road then that would be the 4719 & 4924 response.

So its not strange at all when you actually know what has happened and has been agreed to. SACAD wont change or reduce these "strange" responses. Infact all this discussion goes to prove my point that humans/locals can take more factors into account and can make better decisions than a generic computer response spat out from a data base. This is why any future system needs the flexability for a response/ upgrade to be defined by a human/local at response time.

You all want it both ways. First off you complain when its not as per the database, then you complain when it is done as per the database.
You should just chill a bit over this fanatical response precision. You cant have operators that know every bend and landmark and it cant all be incorporated into a database be it BOMS or SACAD.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 11, 2007, 11:38:27 AM
I realise all of that HF14, but there is no denying it is a strange response no matter the zone... im not havintg a dig, i actually realise how the systems work, just didnt realise it was the same zone, seems odd.

sorry mate ;)

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/station49/map.jpg)

yellow tag is incident location per page
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 11, 2007, 11:39:05 AM
wow that pics come up crap hey  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 11, 2007, 12:52:03 PM
I can see how this would have happenned as 'Mannum rd Inglewood' is not in Boms.

You are correct Zippy, if 'Adelaide to Mannum rd' is entered Hermitage is reconmended although looking at the map Paracombe may have been better. Rescue would have been selected from the map and probably would have been Tea Tree Gully. Would this have been correct?

As for the concept of fiddling responses, that is ridiculous. We do our best with information the caller provides and the resources available to provide the right response for any incident. Bring on SACAD!

I hope this helps.



hehe..just hope the caller states the approximate suburb of the incident otherwise ull be responding pretty much every brigade along that road  :wink:.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 11, 2007, 12:56:29 PM
I realise all of that HF14, but there is no denying it is a strange response no matter the zone... im not havintg a dig, i actually realise how the systems work, just didnt realise it was the same zone, seems odd.

sorry mate ;)

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w231/station49/map.jpg)

yellow tag is incident location per page

easy fix mate....google maps  ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on October 11, 2007, 06:15:17 PM
1905686 08:18:00 11-10-07 MESSAGE ONLY 701 IS NOW OFF LINE RETURNING TO ADELAIDE REPLACEMENT ARRIVING, THIS AFTER NOON MFS Mt Gambier Response

Heres an interesting pager message any idea why 701 is returning to Adelaide  :| :?

For some alterations. New Air Conditioner for the back part of the cab and some new seals for the pump.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 11, 2007, 09:57:30 PM
Oh so that's the truck i seen driving past on my way to Mount Gambier this morning  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on October 12, 2007, 06:04:56 AM
Must not have a big fuel tank stoped in Naracoorte and filled up then off he want,would have been a nice day for a drive to the city......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 12, 2007, 09:55:58 AM
More than likely the 701 driver filled up before he left Mount Gambier and only topped up in Naracoorte  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on October 12, 2007, 05:23:04 PM
16:47:05   12-10-07   PLS PH JOSEPHINE SPECK - CITY OF PROSPECT 83428113 OR 0400676426 RE FASHION FOOD AND WINE FAIR NEED 6 FIREMEN TO ASSIST THE MODELS - HAVE SPOKEN WITH MARK SIDERSTROM RE THIS MFS

Pick me, Pick me.....  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ltdan on October 12, 2007, 08:41:19 PM
more of a strange response...

MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:27,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR INTERSECTION OF TURNERS RD. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.,4719 8424
9019*CFSRES:

then

MFS: INC # 43 - 10/10/07 11:30,RESPOND RCR,OLAVE HILL RD,HAWTHORNDENE, MAP 155 F 10 ,,NEAR TURNERS AVE. SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER. ASSIST BLACKWOOD,4924*CFSRES:


should of been 4719 & 4924 to begin with...


have to wonder if some data has been rejiggled lately without consultation with all groups/parties when ya see differant/strange responses going down...


Negative to both of those. That response was correct and as per agreements. Responses aren't specified per street, the response is specified by a zone and the zone is then assigned to a street.
Olave Hill Road Hawthorndene is in the same response zone as Upper Sturt Road Upper Sturt. Since Upper Sturt Road is so long the response for a RCR has been defined as being rescue from Blackwood and Stirling with fire cover from Upper Sturt. So what happened was exactly what it is set in the computer system and agreed to. If it was Turners Ave cnr Olave Hill Road then that would be the 4719 & 4924 response.

So its not strange at all when you actually know what has happened and has been agreed to. SACAD wont change or reduce these "strange" responses. Infact all this discussion goes to prove my point that humans/locals can take more factors into account and can make better decisions than a generic computer response spat out from a data base. This is why any future system needs the flexability for a response/ upgrade to be defined by a human/local at response time.

You all want it both ways. First off you complain when its not as per the database, then you complain when it is done as per the database.
You should just chill a bit over this fanatical response precision. You cant have operators that know every bend and landmark and it cant all be incorporated into a database be it BOMS or SACAD.

HF 14

The Rescue Dual Response was an initiave by Upper Sturt CFS and Sturt Group and was agreed by The Lofty Group.

Unfortunately at this stage the dual Rescue response has not been occuring at all times.  But the dual response has been occuring as Upper Sturt and Sturt Group have been responding the appropriate responses on acknowledgement of the page.

At this stage the co-operation and commitment by brigades and groups involved in this response area have been making it work well for the community they serve.

I believe by all parties the responses are working well, adequate and correct resources are being responded in the overall situation.  Their is a good working relationship between Upper Sturt, Sturt Group and Lofty Group and in this response zone and I believe this relationship will continue and get stronger in future.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 15, 2007, 04:48:57 PM
1908870 15:26:50 15-10-07 MFS: INC # 51 - 15/10/07 15:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MOORES RD,NORTON SUMMIT, MAP 121 Q 1 ,,ASSIST DEH, BURNOFF SPOTTING, ENTER VIA MORIALTA PARK,10824 9419*CFSRES: CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response

Maybe yesterday wasn't such a good day to do a HR Burn :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on October 15, 2007, 04:53:51 PM
it sounds like it's going a bit to quick on the scanner :oops:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 15, 2007, 11:18:06 PM
Going.. Going... GONE!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 16, 2007, 01:32:08 AM
definately! not the best week to have done a HR burn.   that spot fire was enough to get our hair raised and set up for burnover...then it just died lol.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on October 16, 2007, 07:16:43 AM
Just show's you all how dry the bush is and  its not summer yet....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 16, 2007, 08:49:40 AM
removed... :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on October 16, 2007, 04:00:38 PM
MFS: Call Sign ELZ331  changed to 331. MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

Any one know what this is about?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 16, 2007, 04:12:19 PM
15:35:09   16-10-07   MFS: INC # 40 - 16/10/07 15:35,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PARNDANA ,PARNDANA KI, MAP 087 F 3 ,,FIRE AT MT BROWN,PARN19*CFSRES: CFS Parndana Response

**PARN19**
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on October 16, 2007, 09:30:26 PM
1908906 17:44:43 16-10-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 16/10/07 17:44,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,RAZOR BACK RD,MEADOWS, MAP 000 0 0 ,,2-3KM FROM CUTHILL RD,MDWS19 MBKR19 ECHG00*CFSRES: CFS Echunga Response

this must be the new codes. from this message im gathering codes ending in 19 are rescue still and 00 are standard fire response.

1925389 20:41:26 16-10-07 MFS: INC # 61 - 16/10/07 20:41,RESPOND Smoke in Area,WANDEARAH RD,PORT PIRIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BEHIND THE SCHOOL,501*CFSRES: MFS Pt Pirie

But i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on October 16, 2007, 09:52:27 PM
Quote
But i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno 

you can't teach and old dog new tricks :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on October 16, 2007, 09:54:15 PM
Quote
But i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno 

you can't teach and old dog new tricks :evil:

Does that make the CFS a young dog? :P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Comms on October 17, 2007, 12:27:58 AM
MFS codes have also changed, just not retained yet. Some examples follow.

INC # 68 - 16/10/07 23:48
RESPOND Vehicle Accident
GRANGE RD MAP 116 F 3
SEATON
INT OF TAPLEYS HILL RD.
WDV249

DAILY INC. NO. 65 - 16/10/07 22:07
RESPOND ALARM 11/134
MYER CENTRE
NORTH TCE  MAP 4 A  4
ADELAIDE
FIP S FIRE CONTROL ROOM PANELS 1--7

ADL205 ADL201 ADL204 ADL203


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on October 17, 2007, 06:14:15 AM
What has brought on the change.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 17, 2007, 08:00:21 AM
i can think of a few people who requested this change...but i think there were a whole lot more!

tis good to see its done , nice work mfs comcen :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 17, 2007, 09:39:56 AM
SES changing????
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on October 17, 2007, 11:23:06 AM
The short names on the pager messages were what we were promised from the start of the new CRD system.....but when the new CRD system commenced, it was found there were software issues, and short names couldn't be used without changes being made to the software.

At least two Regions were insisting on the short names (I am guessing the others did too - but I haven't heard anything from them about it)

It is good to see the change has now occurred.

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on October 17, 2007, 11:25:57 AM
Quote
But i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno 

you can't teach and old dog new tricks :evil:

But you're never too old to learn  :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 17, 2007, 01:00:39 PM

But i also noticed that MFS haven't changed. I dunno  :|


perhaps MFS are smart enough to remember a few numbers... and dont need to change a perfectly good system..

has everyone got the info re: that.. i believe it is on the CFS website...

good news is with the new system we should at least be able to tell when rescue, hazmat and tankers have been responded still...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on October 17, 2007, 01:07:58 PM
this must be the new codes. from this message im gathering codes ending in 19 are rescue still and 00 are standard fire response.

it was explained in a fax to all brigades in the group back on 20th August ("brigade short names").  For the 2 digit suffix 00 is the default/generic one replacing 24.  The others (19, 28, 42 etc) remain the same as before.  There are more changes concerning CRD coming very soon, not quite finalised yet though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on October 17, 2007, 04:49:06 PM
MFS have seemed to have changed as well.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on October 17, 2007, 06:17:53 PM
Quote
Does that make the CFS a young dog?  :-P

young and agile unlike another service that could be sonsidered old and stale :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 17, 2007, 07:00:50 PM
SES changing????

meant to be some time
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 18, 2007, 06:40:07 PM
09:15:03   18-10-07   R4HQ STLN: INFO ONLY. STIRLING NORTH WILL BE DUEL RESPONDED TO PORT AUGUSTA WITH MFS FOR FIRE CALLS FOR DURATION OF WATER DISRUPTION - DUE TO BURST MAINS 18/10/2007 9:14:53 AM CFS Stirling North Info

Port Augusta has no water at all.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 18, 2007, 07:49:45 PM
MFS: INC # 86 - 18/10/07 19:04,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,208 ESPLANADE ,SEAFORD, MAP 195 F 14
,,,SEAF00 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:




hahaha seafoo.........  everyone knows what im talking about...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on October 18, 2007, 07:55:41 PM
Not sure Mack is that the same as SNAFU? :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 18, 2007, 08:04:05 PM
19:23:58   18-10-07   MFS: *CFSRES: RESPOND OPERATION BINGLE, PORT LINCOLN AIRPORT, 18/10/2007 7:23:45 PM MFS Pt Lincoln Response

wonder what this is  :-o     an operation with a scripted stuff up?? lol    or a real incident gone pear shaped lol
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on October 18, 2007, 09:00:15 PM
They had the real incident yesterday...and the training exercise today!!

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 18, 2007, 09:02:59 PM
lol.. they musta felt  "knew we should planned it a week early"
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 26, 2007, 11:34:21 PM
removed by request.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: littlejohn on October 27, 2007, 07:58:48 AM
....soo  why not just see WHEN the pager goes...how many people rock up...?

I am GUESSING that page was sent becuase a fire ban was declared, and no one (or not enough) has bothered to let the BDO know if they're available. (I'm also assuming it's a statewide practise to have a radio sched on a fire ban day?)

If you think about why those scheds exisist - so the group (GOs, DGOs, captains etc) have an accurate idea of what resources area available in the instance of an incident, it strikes me as quite fair to give the brigade a rev for being a bit slack.

Waiting ten minutes after a page has gone out to discover that a brigade has no crew is unneccessary on a high fire risk day. Similarly, if you know a neighbouring brigade is low on numbers you can make a conscious effort to fill your own truck, with the knowledge that you'll lose a couple of crew when you reach the fireground.

Lots of good reasons to have a fire ban sched. Bit harder getting crew to keep you informed!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on October 27, 2007, 11:49:30 AM
I can never understand why we still have to see if we can get crews on a fire ban day by doing a radio check or call captains...We should treat each day as the same and if its a fire ban then you know you have to page extra units....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on October 27, 2007, 11:53:21 AM
I can never understand why we still have to see if we can get crews on a fire ban day by doing a radio check or call captains...We should treat each day as the same and if its a fire ban then you know you have to page extra units....

hence why any rural incident on a TFB is 2nd alarm initial response per SOP.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ltdan on October 27, 2007, 06:00:19 PM
Guys

But why wait 4, 5 ,6 10 minutes etc to wonder if an you are able to provide an appliance on a high risk fire danger day.

Smarter I would think to know what you have in your station as crew and skill level.

I guess the other stations which perform pre-planning also are incorrect in their management and leadership.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on October 27, 2007, 07:05:11 PM
Guys

But why wait 4, 5 ,6 10 minutes etc to wonder if an you are able to provide an appliance on a high risk fire danger day.

Smarter I would think to know what you have in your station as crew and skill level.

The same could be argued for other (equally urgent)types of call outs......  :| :evil:

It is ultimately up to the Captain to ensure that there are enough crews for various call outs, whatever they may be..... I suppose some brigades do so in a more public fashion than others, via the pager, while others perhaps do so in a less public manner (eg at training, or via some other means). 

How the brigade chooses to determine its potential crewing levels is a matter for each individual brigade.   :-D

Pip


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on October 28, 2007, 06:35:39 PM
State Control Centre make mistakes too.



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on November 01, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
1908894 13:57:39 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 01/11/07 13:57,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MONUMENT RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND, MAP 308 Q 6 ,,,MDDL42*CFSRES: CFS Middleton Response

1908893 14:06:18 01-11-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 01/11/07 14:06,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MONUMENT RD,HINDMARSH ISLAND, MAP 308 Q 6 ,,UNNATTENDED BON FIRE,GLWA19 CUCK00*CFSRES: CFS Goolwa Response

tanker gets called first?  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 01, 2007, 04:12:10 PM
Yes bit of a muff up there, luckily was just a big pile of tree's, but still :|

Was definatly weird having the tanker pull in 5 mins after us considering it doesn't go over 50 :oops:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on November 01, 2007, 05:10:30 PM
Yes bit of a muff up there, luckily was just a big pile of tree's, but still :|

Was definatly weird having the tanker pull in 5 mins after us considering it doesn't go over 50 :oops:
One way of getting it there quicker i suppose.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 01, 2007, 09:53:53 PM
22:03:26   01-11-07   MFS: INC # 85 - 01/11/07 22:03,RESPOND Fire Alarm,MT GAMBIER MFS,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,INTERSECTION OF BARROWS AND,MINGBOOL ROADS,MTG029*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

22:07:05   01-11-07   MFS: INC # 85 - 01/11/07 22:06,RESPOND Fire Alarm,MT GAMBIER MFS,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,INT. OF BARROWS AND MINGBOOL ROADS,MTG701*CFSRES: MFS Mt Gambier Response

22:07:09   01-11-07   MFS: STOP FOR FIRE ALARM. SES Mt Gambier Response

 :|  haha 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on November 02, 2007, 09:27:53 AM
ANYONE AVAILABLE FOR STRIKE TEAMS IF REQD INSTATE OR INTERSTATE CONTACT THE CAPTAIN ASAP PLEASE CFS Weetulta/Nalyappa Info

So the question here is, is something going down somewhere that the news hasn't picked up on, or is someone just being very efficient in their pre-planning?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: captain on November 02, 2007, 01:00:47 PM
No its just good pre-planning, bacause at our last group meeting (Mawson Group) all the Captains were asked to submit name of people who could go on task jobs in or out of state and for how long they could go for.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on November 03, 2007, 01:49:12 AM
No its just good pre-planning, bacause at our last group meeting (Mawson Group) all the Captains were asked to submit name of people who could go on task jobs in or out of state and for how long they could go for.

That part is the easy bit.
The head-scratcher is this...
You've just sent your only 5 people in-district off on a strike
team to the neighbouring group's area. All the rest of your
members work out-of-area in Adelaide CBD or further..
How to crew the second appliance for _possible_ local fires having
regard for members losing pay (food & shelter).
Remember, there isn't actually a local fire - just the possibility
of one.  It may not even be a TFB day.  How to spring your members
free of their employers without losing pay & good-will....

cheers
AJ

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on November 03, 2007, 07:23:14 PM

MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region

NOA029

Noarlunga i presume?? Does this make them a primary RCR response unit now??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on November 03, 2007, 07:56:48 PM

MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region

NOA029

Noarlunga i presume?? Does this make them a primary RCR response unit now??

rescue code is 19. this is the new codes for SES responses, like our standard fire code is 00, theres is 029.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 03, 2007, 08:21:06 PM
Possibly wrong dude, no body knows what the codes are (no notification or information give out as yet), but I can tell you this every page for a RCR unit so far is 029 regardless of the task, every page for a non RCR unit is 020. Except NOA029 of course! So who knows, but Noarlunga is the same as Tea Tree Gully, Eastern Suburbs & Metro South - USAR, Shoring,Vertical etc. All metro units are General Rescue units, Storm/Flood damage, so I'm not sure why Noarlunga would be 029 possibly a mistake. Wouldn't be the first :wink: easy way to find out though check out the number on their truck if it is 91, then it is RCR if it is 31 (or 2, 3) then its not. Hope this clears up the confusion.
cheers chook
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on November 03, 2007, 08:31:25 PM
Quote
MFS: INC # 69 - 03/11/07 12:46,RESPOND Tree Down,LOT7 COXS HILL RD,ONKAPARINGA HILLS, MAP 187 F 7 ,,50 CM TREE OVER BUILDING P3 THWE NAME DELAMERE ON THE GATE CHRISTINE 83251176,NOA029*CFSRES: SES Central Region

isn't this akin to sending a fire truck to put out a cigarette butt in an an ash tray?!! :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on November 03, 2007, 09:41:12 PM
50cm is quite a large limb for an un equipped person
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on November 03, 2007, 09:44:29 PM
50cm is quite a large limb for an un equipped person

Depends if you're measuring length or girth...

In some situations I would consider 50cm very well equipped... :P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on November 04, 2007, 06:32:30 AM
The call takers usually ask the diameter of the tree/branch not the length. Be a bit hard to call a 50 cm length a tree wouldnt you think?? Would suggest it is the diameter.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on November 04, 2007, 08:12:49 AM
1909101   09:13:46   04-11-07   MFS: INC # 30 04/11/07 9;10, RESPOND TO STATION EMERGENCY, DETAILS TO FOLLOW, MAP 000 0 0 *CFSRES: CFS: Angaston

1909101   09:18:48   04-11-07   MFS: LAST MESSAGE HAS NOT BEEN SENT FROM ADELAIDE FIRE CFS: Angaston

Very Interesting....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on November 04, 2007, 02:01:18 PM
looks like things got a bit hairy down in the SE last night too...

1929715 02:51:26 04-11-07 STN 70 EMERGENCY PAGE MFS Mt Gambier

1905686 03:00:35 04-11-07 EVERY FIREFIGHTER TO REPORT TO STATION,, GAS METRE TORN, NEED EVERYBODY TO RESPOND, TO HELP WITH SITUATION AND EVACUATION. MFS Mt Gambier Response

and also...

1906658 04:27:20 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:27,RESPOND Tree Down,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CALLER 0405 393 818 TWO TREES OVER ROAD,SAPOL SAY ROAD HAZARD,MTG029 TRPN00*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

1906658 04:27:58 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:27,RESPOND Tree Down,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8 KMS SOUTH OF TARPEENA,MTG029 TRPN00*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

1906658 04:35:47 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 04:35,RESPOND RCR,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,UPGRADE CALL TO TARPEENA TO ROAD CRASH RESCUE FROM SAPOL MT. GAMBIER,MTG029*CFSRES: SES Mt Gambier Response

1906674 05:00:33 04-11-07 MFS: INC # 17 - 04/11/07 05:00,RESPOND RCR,RIDDOCH HWY,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,8 KMS SOUTH OF TARPEENA/ CALL SES HQ AT MOUNT GAMBIER FIRST,MIL029*CFSRES: SES Wattle Range Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 04, 2007, 03:20:52 PM
And earlier today too! Mother Nature has been having some real fun this week
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 05, 2007, 04:58:20 PM
18:16:24   05-11-07   MFS: INC # 42 - 05/11/07 18:16,RESPOND RCR,CUDLEE CREEK CFS,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEA TREE GULLY,CHAIN A POND RD,CUDL00*CFSRES: CFS Cudlee Creek Response

Thats the 2nd time recently that Cuddle Creek has been called to a RCR, without a RCR brigades assistance.  wheres the SOP?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 05, 2007, 05:13:20 PM

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1909141 18:29:43 05-11-07 DRIVER REQUIRED ASAP AT THE STATION CFS: Cudlee Creek

 
1909130 18:25:41 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: GUMERACHA GROUP
1909139 18:25:39 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: Paracombe
Sorry guys that top page would never happen in my unit, no driver default to next resource - simple.
And still no rescue
 :-(
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 05, 2007, 09:45:41 PM

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1909141 18:29:43 05-11-07 DRIVER REQUIRED ASAP AT THE STATION CFS: Cudlee Creek

 
1909130 18:25:41 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: GUMERACHA GROUP
1909139 18:25:39 05-11-07 MFS: INC # 44 - 05/11/07 18:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CUDLEE CREEK ,CUDLEE CREEK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2KM FROM CUDLEE CK TOWARDS TEATREE GULLY ON CHAIN A PONDS RD,PARC00*CFSRES: CFS: Paracombe
Sorry guys that top page would never happen in my unit, no driver default to next resource - simple.
And still no rescue
 :-(

OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on November 05, 2007, 10:06:57 PM
OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:

The what? :P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 05, 2007, 10:27:49 PM
OMG....doesnt anyone read the RCRD anymore :evil:

The what? :P
Road Crash Resource Directory aka the GREEN BOOK :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on November 06, 2007, 07:58:32 AM
06:47:50 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 13 - 06/11/07 06:47,RESPOND FACTORY FIRE,PRINCES HWY,MURRAY BRIDGE, MAP 349 F 12 ,,,MNTR00*CFSRES: CFS Mintaro Response

 :-D Long drive!  200km's.

Later corrected to Monarto.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crank on November 06, 2007, 02:04:36 PM
I may have misread the pager messages but MFS were never paged?

Yet they call in crews from monarto and jervois?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Shiner on November 06, 2007, 02:12:30 PM
Rural location - Murray Bridge MFS would not be responded to this??
Monarto are closest brigade to incident so would of been first call, backed up by Murray Bridge with the Jervois bulk water carrier being called due to the remote nature.
Jervois34 also called to assist but stop called shortly afterwards due to the decision to take a defensive strategy......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on November 06, 2007, 02:41:40 PM
busier night than usual for these guys...

1919066 00:10:43 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 1 - 06/11/07 00:10,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,14 YORKTOWN RD,ELIZABETH EAST, MAP 52 B 15 ,,NUMBER 50,LOCATED AT SERATODA RD,ADL205 31 ELZ331 ELZ332 SAL329*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

1919066 00:26:41 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 2 - 06/11/07 00:26,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,YORKTOWN RD,CRAIGMORE, MAP 52 H 9 ,,EASTERN PARK FOOTY CLUB CARPARK,ELZ331 ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

1926877 00:43:45 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 06/11/07 00:43,RESPOND Tree Fire,MAIN NORTH RD,MUNNO PARA, MAP 42 M 6 ,,,ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 332 Response

1919066 01:29:43 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 5 - 06/11/07 01:29,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,PEACHEY RD,DAVOREN PARK, MAP 51 N 5 ,,NEAR FORTINGBRIDGE RD,ELZ331*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

1919066 01:53:18 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 7 - 06/11/07 01:53,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,ULEY RD,CRAIGMORE, MAP 52 H 2 ,,IN CARPARK OF RUGBY CLUB.,ELZ331 ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

1919066 02:47:22 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 8 - 06/11/07 02:47,RESPOND RCR,CONYNGHAM ST,ELIZABETH EAST, MAP 62 C 4 ,,CAR V PHONE BOX. CAR ON FIRE. OUTSIDE NO 30.,SAL329 ELZ331*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

1926877 03:11:11 06-11-07 MFS: INC # 10 - 06/11/07 03:11,RESPOND To,HEWITTSON RD,ELIZABETH WEST, MAP 51 J 8 ,,UNKNOWN TYPE FIRE NEAR OLD DINER,ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 332 Response

7 jobs in 3 hours, i guess thats what they're paid for.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on November 06, 2007, 03:42:53 PM
Just a normal night in Elizabeth, never a dull moment. Dont reckon the Elizabeth crews would ever get much sleep on their night shifts, lol.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on November 06, 2007, 04:07:09 PM
I may have misread the pager messages but MFS were never paged?

Yet they call in crews from monarto and jervois?

It might be because the location of the premises is actually Monarto, not Murray Bridge, with it being just about halfway between Monarto & Murray Bridge.

Hence the 2 closest brigades were called initially.....

As for Jervois - the first call was for the Tanker - something the MFS Murray Bridge don't currently have.

I can't see any problem with the responses thus far....

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crank on November 06, 2007, 05:42:02 PM
fair enough i was under the impression it was in or near murray bridge....never mind.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on November 07, 2007, 02:11:16 PM
1909007 11:44:07 07-11-07 Congratulations to Allan McGough on this day for 40 years dedicated service to the Upper Sturt Brigade....Thankyou Allan and Well Done!!......Daniel & The Brigade CFS Upper Sturt Info
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on November 07, 2007, 06:36:54 PM
Well done Allan,so I guess where all going to gate crash the party :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on November 08, 2007, 07:01:12 PM
some interesting pages in the way they were sent...

1909165 18:10:18 08-11-07 MFS: INC # 57 - 08/11/07 18:10,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,18 GEOFFREY ST,LEWISTON, MAP 20 F 7 ,,P4 ROOF DAMAGED FROM WIND, YESTERDAY, MRS BRADY PLEASE RING 0418 823 565,GWLR00*CFSRES: CFS Gawler River Response

that was actually a storm damge call for the SES


and this one...

1909304 18:33:34 08-11-07 MFS: CFSRES: BLACKFELLOWS CAVES & KONGORONG RESPOND GRASS FIRE, NEAR CARPENTERS ROCKS CORNER, PT MACDONNELL TURNOFF, CONTACT PORT MAC COMMS CAPT FOR DETAILS 08/11/2007 6:33:22 PM CFS Blackfellows Caves Response

done the old fashioned SHQ way  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 08, 2007, 07:15:55 PM
whenever you receive a Airsource sent message from MFS....youll always know....its from ya trustie CFS OCO :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 11, 2007, 03:05:51 PM
1919416 14:53:43 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 11/11/07 14:53,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TUNKILLO HOTEL,CAR V 3 MOTORBIKES,MNNM19 PLMR00*CFSRES: CFS: Mannum
1919413 14:53:56 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 11/11/07 14:53,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TUNKILLO HOTEL,CAR V 3 MOTORBIKES,MNNM19 PLMR00*CFSRES: CFS: RIDLEY GROUP
1919417 14:53:54 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 47 - 11/11/07 14:53,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TUNKILLO HOTEL,CAR V 3 MOTORBIKES,MNNM19 PLMR00*CFSRES: CFS: Palmer
1908045 15:02:34 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:02,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ADEL-MANNUM RD, 5KM WEST PALMER, MCYCLE V TREE.,MURR00 MRB029*CFSRES: SES: Murray Bridge

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1928012 15:02:33 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:02,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ADEL-MANNUM RD, 5KM WEST PALME SES: SHQ Duty officer pager 2

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1919403 15:02:20 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:02,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ADEL-MANNUM RD, 5KM WEST PALMER, MCYCLE V TREE.,MURR00 MRB029*CFSRES: CFS: Murray Bridge
1909116 15:13:32 11-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 11/11/07 15:13,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MT PLEASANT CFS,MT PLEASANT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAR V 3 X BIKES OUTSIDE TUNKILLO HOTEL,MPLT19*CFSRES: CFS: Mt Pleasant
1909111 15:41:30 11-11-07 Mt Pleasant 24p arrived on scene Mannum CFS, Palmer CFS, Murray Bridge SES, Police and Ambulance are also on scene. Vicki 11/11/07 15:48:22 CFS: BAROSSA GROUP

Enough fire cover or what? And before anyone says anything yes initially looks like two incidents but still!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 11, 2007, 03:37:01 PM
Actually is 3 rescue resources and one fire cover
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 11, 2007, 03:44:56 PM
Your correct my appologies  :oops:- still overkill? After all they were motorbikes little risk of entrapment. And yet in other areas fire is responded without rescue to RCR's seems like Raffety's rules out there cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on November 11, 2007, 04:21:24 PM
No not Rafferty's rules out there. Palmer could not get enough crew to start with for what they thought was 2 different RCR so why not make sure you get enough cover on the road. Are you sure no cars involved to start with they where told 1 car so what is it dammed if you do dammed if you don't.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 11, 2007, 04:58:20 PM
SAAS were at a stage of thinking there was two RCR's,  then back to one,  then back to two...lol

better dispatching too much rather than too little.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 11, 2007, 05:31:18 PM
true, true If I was in a similar position I would have called for support as well. A neighboring unit had a similar problem two jobs very close to each other - turned out two different people called triple 0 and gave slightly different locations. Being called to some else's area I called them up (the other unit) and asked were we really needed. Of course the answer was no. Anyway better to have too much than not enough. The Rafferty's rules comment was about rescue not being called to jobs at all, but fire cover is paged seems to me that the Green book isn't being followed all of the time. cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 14, 2007, 05:37:05 PM
MFS: INC # 86 - 14/11/07 18:34,RESPOND Rescue Animal,LOT 91 MAIN ST,LEASINGHAM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,PETER WOULD LIKE A CALL 8XXX XXXX SNAKE IN LAUNDRY MINTARO TO LEASINGHAM RD RAPID 847 377,CLA029*CFSRES

We are turning out TO WHAT :?

You can go in first :-P

MFS: *** stop for call *** inc 86 not req 14/11/2007 6:38:39 PM CFS Clare Response

Bet they dont teach that in BFF1
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 14, 2007, 06:21:54 PM
filtered that! Hate snakes its obvious the call triage is working well - not sure what the girls & boys at Clare would have done when they got there. Chop it up with cutters? Suppose you could catch it with the spreaders - if they closed quick enough :wink: Bet they were sweating on that stop call. I do know of one unit around here who have a registered snake catcher but as I said at the start filtered that! cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on November 14, 2007, 07:18:49 PM
filtered that! Hate snakes its obvious the call triage is working well - not sure what the girls & boys at Clare would have done when they got there. Chop it up with cutters? Suppose you could catch it with the spreaders - if they closed quick enough :wink: Bet they were sweating on that stop call. I do know of one unit around here who have a registered snake catcher but as I said at the start filtered that! cheers


i believe sellicks did a 'snake extrication' back in the day... lol


ya wouldnt catch me doing it though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 14, 2007, 07:30:17 PM
Fill it with Luke Warm water, set for trumble dry.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 14, 2007, 07:47:04 PM
filtered that! Hate snakes its obvious the call triage is working well - not sure what the girls & boys at Clare would have done when they got there. Chop it up with cutters? Suppose you could catch it with the spreaders - if they closed quick enough :wink: Bet they were sweating on that stop call. I do know of one unit around here who have a registered snake catcher but as I said at the start filtered that! cheers


I believe Sellicks did a 'snake extrication' back in the day... lol

ya wouldnt catch me doing it though.

Did they do a risk assessment first :lol:
In the words of a well esteemed snake catcher last week on Today Tonight "if you dont get it the first time you wont get a second chance"

There was a page last fire season from a brigade that had one near their BA gear in the station, and members to watchout if they got a call :-o

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jimmy on November 14, 2007, 10:26:10 PM
Also interesting that the call went out to Clare SES but the stop call to Clare CFS. Hope SES got the message in the end.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Dave O on November 15, 2007, 01:28:17 PM
1909188 14:25:46 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 39 - 15/11/07 14:25,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HEASLIP RD,MACDONALD PARK, MAP 40 P 10 ,,CORNER CURTIS RD,DALK19 SAIR55 ELZ331*CFSRES:

Anyone know what SAIR55 is?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on November 15, 2007, 01:37:27 PM
a bomber??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Dave O on November 15, 2007, 01:47:38 PM
Might be notification to someone in CFS that bomber might need to be dispatched...???
 :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 15, 2007, 02:07:46 PM
I would say that would be Air op's...wouldnt have been any bombers since that aint in the Lofty Primary Zone...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on November 15, 2007, 03:29:58 PM
Rescue55???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on November 15, 2007, 04:15:08 PM
let the theories begin....  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on November 15, 2007, 04:24:50 PM
It's actually a code for ASIO - when fires occur near secret bases, or when it's suspected terrorism....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on November 15, 2007, 04:53:49 PM
MFS: INC # 57 - 15/11/07 17:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,FLOWER ST,ELIZABETH DOWNS, MAP 52 F 6 ,,,SAIR55 ELZ332*CFSRES: MFS Elizabeth 332 Response

MFS: INC # 49 - 15/11/07 16:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GOODRINGTON WAY,MOANA, MAP 205 J 11 ,,,MCLV00 SAIR55 SEAF00 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS McLaren Vale Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on November 15, 2007, 04:57:17 PM
It's actually a code for ASIO - when fires occur near secret bases, or when it's suspected terrorism....

 16:28:16 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 49 - 15/11/07 16:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GOODRINGTON WAY,MOANA, MAP 205 J 11 ,,,MCLV00 SAIR55 SEAF00 CDN431*CFSRES

17:27:58 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 57 - 15/11/07 17:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,FLOWER ST,ELIZABETH DOWNS, MAP 52 F 6 ,,,SAIR55 ELZ332*CFSRES:

I dont think its ASIO somehow...

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on November 15, 2007, 05:01:04 PM
I dont think its ASIO somehow...

It was a joke.. Just so we're clear... :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on November 15, 2007, 05:37:45 PM
Its the Air Desk at CFS, goes to a pager to alert them to a rural incident, then they decide if the bombers are needed and page them. So if you see this on your pager, don't assume the bombers are coming, its not directly to the bombers.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hair on November 15, 2007, 08:58:01 PM
Hope this clarifies things.

The MFS BOMS system will be updated over then next few days to include a pager message to the State Air Desk (located within the CFS State Coordination Centre) for all rural incident types. 

        Incident Types in BOMS are;
        GB Grass Fire Ban Day
        GF Grass Fire Danger Season
        GO Grass Outside Fire Danger
        RW Rubbish/Waste
        SA Smoke in area
        TF Tree Fire

Note if incident type TO is used for a despatch and the incident is believed to be rural please make sure that SAIR55 is attached to the response.

The State Air Desk will be a recommended response for all of the above incident types statewide, we have not allocated zones just incident types. 

Under no circumstances will this resource be removed from a rural despatch, if the incident is not relevant to the State Air Desk it will be ignored by the State Air Desk.

Appliance Name for State Air Desk is SAIR55.

SAIR55 will be displayed as a resource despatched on pagers and MDT messages state wide for the above mentioned incident types.

Note: This does not mean that aircraft will be attending

Upon receiving the pager message the State Coordination Centre Support Officers working in the State Air Desk, assess if the incident is occurring within the primary response zone.  If incident is within primary response zone, then State Coordination Support Officers will responds aircraft via pager, included on pager message will be a distance and bearing from the allocated airbase to the incident.

State Coordination Centre Support Officers will then allocate the aircraft to incidents within CRIIMSON

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on November 15, 2007, 09:01:21 PM
but is there much point in sending them to air ops at this time of night?

1919134 21:39:56 15-11-07 MFS: INC # 75 - 15/11/07 21:39,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,ELIZABETH RD,MAITLAND, MAP 0 0 0 ,,COUNCIL DUMP FIRE,SAIR55 MTLD00 PTVC00*CFSRES:

or is that unavoidable?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 15, 2007, 09:24:22 PM
i believe that SAIR55 cant be removed from the recommended response for the incident types as Hair has outlined.   

From what ive been told bombers for the Mount Lofty Primary Zone started today,  with FDI's above 20 making a Auto Dispatch plan in effect roughly between 10am and 5pm.

i think it would be great if it came up as SHQ108  bit more relevent to who it is.  SHQ - 108 being Air Ops.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 18, 2007, 07:10:42 PM
1924962 20:08:50 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research 
1924962 20:06:45 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1909713 20:06:41 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Berri
Does this indicate a MVA? if it does no rescue no fire cover called. Decision made by an operator over 200 ks away, I know fire is a bit busy today - Cobby but there is still SAMFS.
If its not why was SAAS Road Crash Research paged?
Curiouser & Curiouser. If this is an MVA someone had some big kuhunas not to respond anyone else.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 18, 2007, 09:00:55 PM
1924962 20:08:50 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research 
1924962 20:06:45 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1909713 20:06:41 18-11-07 BE171 Cat2 Sturt Hwy, Berri C59 A9 SAAS Berri
Does this indicate a MVA? if it does no rescue no fire cover called. Decision made by an operator over 200 ks away, I know fire is a bit busy today - Cobby but there is still SAMFS.
If its not why was SAAS Road Crash Research paged?
Curiouser & Curiouser. If this is an MVA someone had some big kuhunas not to respond anyone else.
cheers


This happens more than you think! However be aware that this could be anything from a person being hit by a car to someone falling off their pushbike, a vehicle related accident on private property etc etc. It doesn't always denote a jobe that requires other services. :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on November 19, 2007, 04:39:06 PM
06:00:22   19-11-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 10 - 19/11/07 06:00,RESPOND ALARM 43/056,SOUTHLINK SEAFORD BUS DEPOT,ERIC RD ,SEAFORD, MAP 195 P 13 ,,,SEAF00 CDN431 STM409*CFSRES: CFS Seaford Response

Only A 25km Drive.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 19, 2007, 04:41:00 PM
06:00:22   19-11-07   MFS: DAILY INC. NO. 10 - 19/11/07 06:00,RESPOND ALARM 43/056,SOUTHLINK SEAFORD BUS DEPOT,ERIC RD ,SEAFORD, MAP 195 P 13 ,,,SEAF00 CDN431 STM409*CFSRES: CFS Seaford Response

Only A 25km Drive.......
They were at O'Halloran Hill
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 19, 2007, 04:46:10 PM
MFS: INC # 72 - 19/11/07 17:50,RESPOND RCR,PORT AUGUSTA ,PORT AUGUSTA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ABOUT 70KMS NORTH ON STAURT H/WAY CAR AND HORSE FLOAT ROLLOVER,PAU519*CFSRES: MFS Pt Augusta Response

MFS: CFSRES: respond fire cover RCR 70k nth PT AUG 19/11/2007 5:59:03 PM CFS Stirling Response

MFS: CFSRES: RESPOND FOR FIRE COVER RCR 70K NTH PT AUG 19/11/2007 6:03:36 PM CFS Stirling North Response

Now that would have been a long drive :-o

MFS: ***STOP CALL - OPERATOR ERROR*** 19/11/2007 6:08:55 PM CFS Stirling Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 19, 2007, 04:55:52 PM
"This happens more than you think! However be aware that this could be anything from a person being hit by a car to someone falling off their pushbike, a vehicle related accident on private property etc etc. It doesn't always denote a job that requires other services."
Sturt Hwy Berri is the bypass road. not the Old Sturt hwy Berri which is the road thru town - highly unlikely that some of your scenarios would occur. But I take on board your comments as I dig further.
Cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on November 22, 2007, 12:40:24 PM
question: how do you know when you have an arsonist in your brigade??

answer: when you get pager messages liek this one;

1908054  14:06:59 22-11-07 Any members able to attend call out at 16.30, please phone Ian - 04********




hahaha
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: country kid on November 22, 2007, 01:39:22 PM
ha ha it took me a minute but i get it now!

clever!
*clap clap*
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on November 22, 2007, 08:15:48 PM
   18:28:15   22-11-07   MFS: Contact comcen 82043790 asap re st marys appliance breakdown 22/11/2007 6:28:04 PM MFS
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on November 24, 2007, 08:35:07 AM
1925577 04:59:54 24-11-07 F174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Fulham
1925576 05:00:52 24-11-07 BP171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Brooklyn Park
1924962 05:02:15 24-11-07 LW2 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1925594 05:02:45 24-11-07 P171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Xark 91 F16 POLx{ SAAS Prospect
1925595 05:03:00 24-11-07 P181 Cat3 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Prospect
1925587 05:11:03 24-11-07 CT174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS City

Looks like an interesting job, anyone know what happened.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on November 24, 2007, 09:09:42 AM
1925577 04:59:54 24-11-07 F174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Fulham
1925576 05:00:52 24-11-07 BP171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Brooklyn Park
1924962 05:02:15 24-11-07 LW2 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1925594 05:02:45 24-11-07 P171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Xark 91 F16 POLx{ SAAS Prospect
1925595 05:03:00 24-11-07 P181 Cat3 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Prospect
1925587 05:11:03 24-11-07 CT174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS City

Looks like an interesting job, anyone know what happened.

car v tree, 2 persons extricated
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on November 24, 2007, 04:17:17 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like were gonna see more RCR's and fires during summertime  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 24, 2007, 09:18:15 PM
Well Rob unless you've become a Psychic who knows mate :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on November 25, 2007, 05:27:11 AM
Just get that ball out Robert and keep rubbing it.........
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on November 25, 2007, 06:18:26 AM
1925577 04:59:54 24-11-07 F174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Fulham
1925576 05:00:52 24-11-07 BP171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Brooklyn Park
1924962 05:02:15 24-11-07 LW2 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1925594 05:02:45 24-11-07 P171 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Xark 91 F16 POLx{ SAAS Prospect
1925595 05:03:00 24-11-07 P181 Cat3 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Prospect
1925587 05:11:03 24-11-07 CT174 Cat2 Adelaide Beachfront Van Park Car25 Military Rd, Semaphore Park 91 F16 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS City

Looks like an interesting job, anyone know what happened.

car v tree, 2 persons extricated

Cheers Mack
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on November 25, 2007, 10:45:05 AM
Two large taskings yesterday

13:32:15 24-11-07 MFS: INC # 33 - 24/11/07 13:32,RESPOND Explosive Device,WANDEARAH RD,PORT PIRIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MEET AT CNR BALMORAL RD - CORDONED OFF AREA - CAR LOAD OF EXPLOSIVES - POLICE ON SITE - P2 - CALL FROM POLICE,PTP029 PPI501 NAPP00* SES North Region

14:58:04 24-11-07 MFS: INC # 37 - 24/11/07 14:57,RESPOND Hazmat Incident,KIDMAN RD,DRY CREEK, MAP 82 B 12 ,,ON SIDE OF ROAD NEAR TOLL IPEX,SLSB19 APK361 OAK301 SAL329 ADL206 31*CFSRES: CFS Salisbury Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 29, 2007, 05:26:17 PM
SES are the Bomb Squad now are they :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on November 29, 2007, 06:19:42 PM
SES are the Bomb Squad now are they :?

well if police specifically request them to assist in traffic control... your gonna refuse?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on November 29, 2007, 06:48:38 PM
Believe the Bomb tech who attended the Piri job was Military.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: piriejono on November 29, 2007, 10:03:55 PM
Yes ses attended and assisted with traffic and cordons no one in at all was the direction from sapol, the Tech was military and attended with a sapol bomb tech under lights and siren from adelaide. For info Napperby 34 and MFS Pirie 509 also in attendence.

Jono a SES member who attended.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 30, 2007, 12:42:56 PM
SES are the Bomb Squad now are they :?

well if police specifically request them to assist in traffic control... your gonna refuse?

I was being sarcastic boys as the page did'nt say required for traffic control :lol: 8-)

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on November 30, 2007, 04:17:36 PM
17:39:11   30-11-07   TRUR: INFO ONLY- STILL BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR 3 ABORIGINAL MALES IN TRURO AREA-CONSIDERED DANGEROUS PLZ RING SAPOL IF YOU SIGHT THEM. MSG FROM SAPOL- (name) 30/11/2007 5:38:34 PM CFS Truro Info
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 01, 2007, 04:16:49 AM
So what we now work for SAPOL????
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on December 01, 2007, 07:25:44 AM
Community policing maybe?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on December 01, 2007, 08:18:20 AM
Does that mean we get 50 percent of what SAPOL get from the emergency service levy  :? :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on December 01, 2007, 01:59:14 PM
Does that mean we get 50 percent of what SAPOL get from the emergency service levy  :? :-P
Hmmm, so that would be nothing?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on December 01, 2007, 09:11:09 PM
1908852 09:21:54 01-12-07 CFS: SIG INC: FYI: 32000 HECTARE SCRUB FIRE AT PENONG DEH WEST REGION. REFER CRIIMSON FOR DETAILS -DSC WATTS. < 01/12/2007 9:21:42 AM CFS HQ Info

sounds like a good one. Just nothing out there to burn of any concern.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 02, 2007, 05:44:13 AM
The day before this fire was only 400 hct,so must have got very strong winds over night......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 02, 2007, 09:51:54 AM
The day before this fire was only 400 hct,so must have got very strong winds over night......

The 400 Hectare fire was at Block 11 at Ngarkat Bill...the other one is on the West Coast between Ceduna and Nundroo :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: scrawns1 on December 06, 2007, 07:01:27 PM
LOFT: Capts: Region now looking for appliances to go to KI ASAP X6 uncontrolled fires - if you have available crews and appliances please contact Lofty Base soon as poss. Thanks GO (Name) 12/6/2007 CFS Lofty Group Officers Info.

Look's like someone's going on a free overseas trip to KI :-D

Going to be very busy aswell, at least the weather will be nice :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on December 06, 2007, 08:27:10 PM


1919398 21:39:54 06-12-07 MFS: INC # 201 - 06/12/07 21:39,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ETTRICK ,ETTRICK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SUNNYSIDE OFF OF MARRWONG,ETTR00*CFSRES: CFS Swanport Group Officers Response

 1919400 21:44:22 06-12-07 MFS: stop for sunnyside house fire, caller called back to say burn off. 06/12/2007 9:44:11 PM CFS Ettrick Response

One would hope they didn't stop being a TFD and all :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on December 07, 2007, 10:42:54 AM
00:18:41 07-12-07 BE171 Cat2 Jellett Rd, Berri C61 D1 SAAS Berri
00:18:45 07-12-07 BE171 Cat2 Jellett Rd, Berri C61 D1 SAAS Road Crash Research


01:21:11 07-12-07 MFS: INC # 5 - 07/12/07 01:21,RESPOND Assist Police,J C SMITH RD,BERRI, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL AND TOW TRUCK TO REMOVE VEHICLE FROM PREVIOUS ACCIDENT. P3, CONT: BERRI SAPOL,BRI029*CFSRES: SES Berri

Hay Chook what is going on down there? 
what happened to fire cover as well?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on December 08, 2007, 11:32:31 AM
All ready passed on a complaint to Regional command & a SAAS guy who happened to be standing in the office. It appears our local SAAS people believe its not there job to enquire about fire & rescue cover. Interestingly the SAAS guy I was talking to said they have been told by management on numerous occasions to follow procedure (the guy is not from the local SAAS station but one near by :wink:).
Also the tow truck was called at 12:30, my guys weren't pleased when they found that out!
Hopefully we might get some action this time, I'm hoping that I might be able to talk to the SAAS guys after the exercise on Monday.
I will also be talking to our local SAPOL guy(unit member) on Monday as well, as the patrol had the road blocked with the tow truck but no warning lights or anything.
The incident was a 4x4 ran off the road, landed on its nose, spun 180 & finally sat on the vines. All we did was cut some strainer wires and dragged a vine out of the way. The driver was fine I was told.
Hopefully this was an isolated incident (not being called) and it won't happen again.
However if you see anything like this happening again put a complaint into kingy, I do the same to Scott and we may get things resolved.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on December 08, 2007, 10:27:45 PM
Lithgow Howards Fire Works Factory 4 KM North West of Wallerawang on Wallerawang Portland Road 0 Non Bushfire activity 0 Going 08/12 : 11:00PM
Mmmmmmmm. Interesting.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on December 09, 2007, 12:39:21 PM
1909225 12:56:16 09-12-07 CFS: SIG INC: THERE WILL BE A DIAL IN TELECONFERENCE AT 1330 HRS FOR ALL REGIONAL DUTY OFFICERS, DEH & FORESTRY SA DUTY OFFICERS, RE INTERSTATE DEPLOYMENT TO KI - PLEASE CONFIRM WITH SCC ON 8231 7999 - DSC EDEN.

Hmmm it sounds like NSW and Victoria are gonna return the favour by sending their fire crews to help battle the KI fires allowing our mainland crews to return home  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on December 09, 2007, 01:00:46 PM
12:21:26 09-12-07 DISAPPOINTING RESPONSE AGAIN FOR ROSEWORTHY CREW STRIKE TEAM FOR MONDAY THEREFORE CANCELLED. CFS Roseworthy Info

Time some people realised that most people put their paying jobs as a priority ahead of CFS. Especially two weeks before christmas, many workplaces are flat out and asking for time off maybe even unpaid is just not an option. Not to mention those that need to stay behind to protect their own patch..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on December 09, 2007, 01:58:12 PM
maybe thats why CFS are looking interstate for releif?
 CFS: SIG INC: THERE WILL BE A DIAL IN TELECONFERENCE AT 1330 HRS FOR ALL REGIONAL DUTY OFFICERS, DEH & FORESTRY SA DUTY OFFICERS, RE INTERSTATE DEPLOYMENT TO KI - PLEASE CONFIRM WITH SCC ON 8231 7999 - DSC EDEN. > 09/12/2007 12:56:15
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 09, 2007, 02:10:27 PM
1909181 12:21:26 09-12-07 DISAPPOINTING RESPONSE AGAIN FOR ROSEWORTHY CREW STRIKE TEAM FOR MONDAY THEREFORE CANCELLED. CFS Roseworthy Info



Maybe no one wants to go as they have work/family/business commitments if these fires are going to drag on and affect our resources(members) then time to call in out side help.  this kind of pager message is not needed and some members might take offence!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on December 09, 2007, 05:34:09 PM
Is there an echo in this thread?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 09, 2007, 05:39:47 PM
I did not see it already on there at the time....It is good to see that CFA/TASSIE and NSW along with MFS are now coming into help along with one skycrane from Victoria
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Smokeydk on December 09, 2007, 06:41:21 PM

May I ask where the pager messages people are posting are from..I seem to have lost the Site??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on December 09, 2007, 08:02:35 PM
Is there an echo in this thread?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 10, 2007, 06:54:11 AM

May I ask where the pager messages people are posting are from..I seem to have lost the Site??


Here you go smokey
http://www.sacfs.org/paging/ (http://www.sacfs.org/paging/)

or
[link removed - no longer working]
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Smokeydk on December 10, 2007, 06:57:47 AM

Thanks Mate....noted, I felt out of the loop....^5s, our brigade as crew on KI.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 14, 2007, 10:22:08 AM
MFS: INC # 42 - 14/12/07 11:38,RESPOND RCR,TWENTYTHIRD ST,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,2 CAR MVA CNR STURT HWY,NIL ENTRAPMENTS FROM SAAS,REN029 REN618*CFSRES: MFS Renmark Response

MFS: FROM SAAS - PERSONS MAY BE TRAPPED CFSRES MFS Renmark Response


Hmmm okay so which is it :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on December 14, 2007, 12:08:53 PM
They were a slight entrapment Renmark got them out after they got a crew - not too serious I was told both PT's out of vehicle before we arrived.
I was notified of the requirement to respond a minute or so before the page below:-
1918237 11:45:41 14-12-07 MFS: INC # 42 - 14/12/07 11:45,RESPOND RCR,TWENTYTHIRD ST,RENMARK, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CNR STURT H/WAY..RENMARK PROBLEMS GETTING CREW,BRI029*CFSRES: SES Berri
So can only go by what I was told over the radio.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firefrog on December 17, 2007, 06:56:12 AM
05:09:00   17-12-07   THANKS everybody only ONE person has turned up for this call you are making it very easy for MFS to move in. Seaford Captain - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info

 :-o :-o :-o :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on December 17, 2007, 09:56:38 AM
And people want to take rescue tasks off us - what can I say.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 17, 2007, 09:57:56 AM
maybe no one was available at all..people do need sleep before work in the morning...Defaulting isnt the death knell.

fighting against MFS just for a rubbish fire...ehhh im sure they would have it in hand b4 the CFS truck was mobile.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on December 17, 2007, 10:40:54 AM
No its not, however when elements with in CFS/SAMFS are constantly pushing for the demise of SES Rescue then it should be an indication that such plans are potentially dangerous
1908931 11:15:47 17-12-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 17/12/07 11:15,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAY TCE,PENNESHAW, MAP 0 0 0 ,,NEAR THE FERRY - CAR VS FENCE,PENN00*CFSRES: CFS KI Group Officers Response
1908937 11:15:45 17-12-07 MFS: INC # 38 - 17/12/07 11:15,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAY TCE,PENNESHAW, MAP 0 0 0 ,,NEAR THE FERRY - CAR VS FENCE,PENN00*CFSRES: CFS Penneshaw Response
1908931 11:29:30 17-12-07 MFS: RESCUE 51 REQUIRES A LANDING SITE FOR HELECOPTER AT PENNESHAW - PLEASE ADVISE ADELAIDE FIRE OF LOCATION 17/12/2007 11:29:17 AM CFS KI Group Officers Response
1908937 11:29:28 17-12-07 MFS: RESCUE 51 REQUIRES A LANDING SITE FOR HELECOPTER AT PENNESHAW - PLEASE ADVISE ADELAIDE FIRE OF LOCATION 17/12/2007 11:29:17 AM CFS Penneshaw Response
No rescue again?
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on December 17, 2007, 11:59:27 AM
An MFS appliance was also sent to this call at 1121 Hrs...not sure if they had rescue gear on board.....?

However, even if they did have rescue gear, the set down protocols for that area are not being followed.....

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: captain on December 17, 2007, 12:39:50 PM
OK yeah sure it was only a small rubbish fire (infact play equipment i think in the end) and it was in MFS area (just). So does that make it OK for my crew to lay in bed and make the call not to go, just because it might be some crappy little rubbish fire, and MFS might beat us there, so what. The pager has gone off for a reason what ever it might be, how do any of my crew know that the Christies units might be doing at that time, they might be committed with a Fixed Alarm or a MVA else were in their own area and require our help. My personal thoughts are, we get too much info on the pagers and crews make up their minds weather to get out of bed or not, if it was a call for an MVA or a domestic I bet I could have had 2 units on the road no problems. Bring back the old link pagers I say (a tone and a red flashing light) back then we could get 2 units on the road and have 2 relief crew at the station on standby. AHHH bring back the good old days.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on December 17, 2007, 01:27:25 PM
Yep I would be filtered too - good on you!
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jimmy on December 17, 2007, 03:03:00 PM
With regards to the KI RCR,

SES have a dedicated vehicle and crew on the island based at Pandana Basecamp for the duration of the fires so they can relieve local crews. They will not be responded by pager, instead directly by phone or radio (or even tapping them on the shoulder) by SES Command. Although Kingscote SES is still active and Penneshaw would be their area normally (??) I'm sure the SES rescue truck also went.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on December 17, 2007, 03:22:04 PM
I believe Kingscote SES is the rescue response for that area...besides, anything at Parndana is about a 40 minute or so drive......

Interesting tho', there was a crash part way between American River & Penneshaw last night (Sunday night)- both CFS & SES in attendance, but I can't find a pager message for either.....so the radio / phone contact might have been the way things were done...

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 17, 2007, 05:31:16 PM
OK yeah sure it was only a small rubbish fire (infact play equipment i think in the end) and it was in MFS area (just). So does that make it OK for my crew to lay in bed and make the call not to go, just because it might be some crappy little rubbish fire, and MFS might beat us there, so what. The pager has gone off for a reason what ever it might be, how do any of my crew know that the Christies units might be doing at that time, they might be committed with a Fixed Alarm or a MVA else were in their own area and require our help. My personal thoughts are, we get too much info on the pagers and crews make up their minds weather to get out of bed or not, if it was a call for an MVA or a domestic I bet I could have had 2 units on the road no problems. Bring back the old link pagers I say (a tone and a red flashing light) back then we could get 2 units on the road and have 2 relief crew at the station on standby. AHHH bring back the good old days.

They are still Volunteers.

You keep sending pager messages like that, and you won't have members. . Even harder to respond then.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firefrog on December 17, 2007, 05:51:15 PM
I tend to agree.....

I always have believed that it is better to value what time can be given rather than ridicule people for not giving what you may expect.

By actively thanking people for what they can give I have found they in turn want to give more. It takes time but you can turn the tide..... :-)


 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on December 17, 2007, 06:29:37 PM
But these people who are not turning up are the same people that where screaming blue murder when all the whole seaford MFS thing started, you cant jump up and down trying to defend your brigades existence one week then role over and not rock up to jobs the next.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 17, 2007, 06:37:05 PM
.. & granted.. - However I don't think messages like the one shown, are the method to improve response / crew issues!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 17, 2007, 06:42:27 PM
Well if members are not willing to get out of bed for all type of call outs and only want to go to the ggod one then there is a need for the action that was taken..Good on their captain for doing it....Time members if able to attend call outs stopped selecting what they want to go to....Its the same with fixed alarms at 3am in winter no one wants to get out of bed but one day there will be a working job from a fixed alarm....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 17, 2007, 07:02:04 PM
My opinion still stands. - Treat vollies like that, and you won't have them for long.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: littlejohn on December 17, 2007, 07:19:31 PM
My opinion still stands. - Treat vollies like that, and you won't have them for long.

Maybe not, but odds on that the thoughts of the vollies when they saw the response message were "ah, we always get a crew, someone else will get this one." and back to sleep they go.

Sometimes it pays to remind members that 'someone else' won't always get there.



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 17, 2007, 10:42:01 PM
Well they got their domestic job and it was a clan lab explosion very protracted incident :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on December 18, 2007, 07:58:21 AM
I love people who jump all over 'lazy' vollies.

We have had times that during the day, we might at best, have 6 people available. 2 of those are shift workers, 2 are self employed and 2 of them are student. What happens when two blokes are on shift, the self employed blokes are busy and the student are studying?

Granted, it doesn't often happen, but if I have the choice of staying at work or pissing off my boss to attend a job in MFS area, that MFS will beat us to and we will almost certainly get stopped en route, what am I going to do?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on December 18, 2007, 07:34:42 PM
19:51:34 18-12-07 MFS: INC # 56 - 18/12/07 19:51,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KANGARILLA CFS,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,IN FRONT OF KANGARILLA CEMETRY,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Kangarilla Response

20:16:37 18-12-07 MV171 Cat2 Kangarilla Rd, Kangarilla POLICE REQUIRED SAAS McLaren Vale


.....and you lot were bagging SAAS comms for not calling quick enough! 

there's a story about people and glasshouses and stones...but I can't remember how it goes - can anyone enlighten me??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on December 19, 2007, 03:40:14 AM
Fire Bug in and around the Happy Valley area maybe.  :?

00:27:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 19/12/07 00:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,2 PRIDHAM CT,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 K 6 ,,,HPPY00 CRML00 SAIR55 OHH421*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

02:11:28 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 6 - 19/12/07 02:10,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,15 BROOKS CCT,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 F 14 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

04:46:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 9 - 19/12/07 04:45,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SOUTHBOUND AV,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 C 13 ,,MULCH BURNING IN PLAYGROUND,SAIR55 HPPY00*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 19, 2007, 04:53:30 AM
Fire Bug in and around the Happy Valley area maybe.  :?

00:27:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 19/12/07 00:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,2 PRIDHAM CT,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 K 6 ,,,HPPY00 CRML00 SAIR55 OHH421*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

02:11:28 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 6 - 19/12/07 02:10,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,15 BROOKS CCT,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 F 14 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

04:46:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 9 - 19/12/07 04:45,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SOUTHBOUND AV,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 C 13 ,,MULCH BURNING IN PLAYGROUND,SAIR55 HPPY00*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response


You missed one

MFS: INC # 11 - 19/12/07 05:03,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,INVESTIGATOR DR,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 G 11 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES:

Yeah thanks for no sleep filtered :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 19, 2007, 08:58:11 AM
i can see what a lot of members woulda done.   "Sleep time for the pager"
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 19, 2007, 09:33:57 AM
MFS: INC # 30 - 19/12/07 10:45,RESPOND RCR,PALMER CFS,PALMER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,TRUCK ROLLOVER 6 KMS FROM PALMER ON THE PALMER TO MURRAY BRIDGE ROADNEAR RIEDY CREEK

Palmer                    1045AM
Mannum & Mt Pleasant 1051AM
SES Murray Bridge      1053AM

Could comm's do a bit of thinking before paging just a Fire Only responding brigade, it'd get things running smoother and quicker for incidents. Its quite easy to know a single brigade that doesnt have RCR equipment other than a Toolbox cant deal with a Truck rollover themselves.  the only thing that helps RCR brigades out in the Palmer District is 100km/h designed roads.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 19, 2007, 09:34:17 AM
Reminder, unit breakup family fun night tonight, BBQ and soft drinks supplied. bring a salad. 6-30 rotary park Rankine st. Water slide so be prepared SES Strathalbyn

What about the water restrictions fellas :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 19, 2007, 09:39:02 AM
MFS: CFSRES MT PLEASANT ** STOP CALL** FOR MVA, PALMER, FROM MANNUM CAPTAIN 19/12/2007 10:52:39 AM CFS Mount Pleasant Response


MFS: CFSRES: MT PLEASANT RESPOND MVA TRUCK ROLLOVER, MURRAY BRIDGE - PALMER RD, 6 KMS FROM PALMER, CREW STILL REQUIRED FROM MT PLEASANT CAPT 19/12/2007 11:00:15 AM CFS Mount Pleasant Response


OOPS :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on December 19, 2007, 07:53:24 PM
Fire Bug in and around the Happy Valley area maybe.  :?

00:27:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 3 - 19/12/07 00:26,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,2 PRIDHAM CT,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 K 6 ,,,HPPY00 CRML00 SAIR55 OHH421*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

02:11:28 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 6 - 19/12/07 02:10,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,15 BROOKS CCT,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 F 14 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response

04:46:03 19-12-07 MFS: INC # 9 - 19/12/07 04:45,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SOUTHBOUND AV,ABERFOYLE PARK, MAP 166 C 13 ,,MULCH BURNING IN PLAYGROUND,SAIR55 HPPY00*CFSRES: CFS Happy Valley Response


You missed one

MFS: INC # 11 - 19/12/07 05:03,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,INVESTIGATOR DR,WOODCROFT, MAP 177 G 11 ,,FIRE IN CREEK BED,MRPH00 HPPY00 SAIR55 CDN431*CFSRES:

Yeah thanks for no sleep filtered :evil:

Hadnt had that job when i posted, fun night for the guys n girls, you would have been walking around like a zombie today.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on December 19, 2007, 08:15:37 PM
Does it really make sense to respond Morphett Vale, Happy Valley and MFS to jobs in Woodcroft? Why wasnt Woodcroft divided up into areas? ie this part is Morphett Vales and this part is Happy Valleys...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 19, 2007, 08:25:55 PM
i totally agree,  Seems a lot of the dual response/ema work is causing a lot of grief around the fringe.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 19, 2007, 08:48:16 PM
Why grief?.. Can't hear the crews complaining.

Grass fire, FDS, CFS area. 2 Brigades for CFS isn't it?.. + 1 from MFS due to the EMA.. - Seems to be working if you ask me.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 19, 2007, 08:59:01 PM
talking about "around the fringe"  all the way from Seaford to Dalkeith.  not singling out any incidents, just general consistant stop calls to incidents where MFS could easily be by themselves, or MFS leave it to CFS.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 19, 2007, 10:14:10 PM
EMA Zippy..  =)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on December 20, 2007, 05:53:21 AM
Does it really make sense to respond Morphett Vale, Happy Valley and MFS to jobs in Woodcroft? Why wasnt Woodcroft divided up into areas? ie this part is Morphett Vales and this part is Happy Valleys...

woodcroft IS split between Happy and MV....

havent we heard of SOPs for minimum responses?? wow... we talk about them pretty often.

as rescuehazmat said:

Grass fire, FDS, CFS area. 2 Brigades for CFS isn't it
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on December 20, 2007, 12:57:39 PM
Don't forget Mack, 99% of CFS brigades don't know what an SOP is, so you can't expect them to understand why these brigades such as Happy Valley and Morphett Vale do what they do. I think its very professional to cover your backside. Most brigades in the urban fringe have a setup like this, the public expect it. Bob's ute isn't acceptable in 2007 even though a large number of CFS in not so small towns still do it day in day out, with no come back, its funny how the brigades that try and do the right thing cop the most abuse from their fellow vols, yet the one's that constantly screw up never get a mention, in fact get supported by people in HQ. Sigh, makes me wonder......... :roll: 

PS: Kudos to those brigades, especially with the call rates those guys have been doing the last week or so. Makes you more appreciative of those slow spells  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 20, 2007, 01:33:07 PM
I think you will find that most members are  well aware of what SOP's are and how they work the problem is that CFS does not explain how the busy brigade's are able to keep going the way they do. Its also well knowen that region one brigades who do EMS are by far the busiest in the state,time that we as a service stopped knocking each other and gave more support to these brigade's. CFS also needs to start looking at putting in more pumpers to these brigade's rather than part time pumpers....Its not only city brigae's that are busy some country stations are getting more work now than they ever have had before.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on December 20, 2007, 07:07:18 PM
If it is split why are 2 brigades responded so often?

SOP is 2 appliances not necesarrily 2 brigades. Happy Valley has 3 units and Morphett Vale 2 last I heard...

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on December 20, 2007, 08:56:30 PM
Quote
If it is split why are 2 brigades responded so often?

SOP is 2 appliances not necesarrily 2 brigades. Happy Valley has 3 units and Morphett Vale 2 last I heard...

Because neither brigade can guarantee two appliances every time. Thefore to ensure that appropriate B.A. backup is responding to C Class and above incidents two brigades are responded.

For info Morphett Vale has a 24P, 24 and a 14 CAFS.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 21, 2007, 05:59:36 AM
In metro area's you should always  page two brigade's and send one appliance from each station,how ever that does not work in the country as some brigades are 45km apart.....or more.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on December 21, 2007, 06:45:58 AM
If it is split why are 2 brigades responded so often?

SOP is 2 appliances not necesarrily 2 brigades. Happy Valley has 3 units and Morphett Vale 2 last I heard...

So is there any single brigade that can 100% guarantee they can respond one, let alone two, appliance to an incident 24/7... and in a timely manner?

I think you will find that most members are  well aware of what SOP's are and how they work the problem is that CFS does not explain how the busy brigade's are able to keep going the way they do.

was that meant to say "how the busy brigades are meant to keep"??

otherwise i think there are only two words that explain it for you; professionalism & commitment.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on December 22, 2007, 06:08:18 PM
Good timing...



1908919 19:31:55 22-12-07 FIVE PERSONS REQUIRED FOR B SHIFT PLEASE PHONE 0438801329
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Admin/Info

19:34:57 22-12-07 MFS: INC # 121 - 22/12/07 19:34,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,NORTH RD,NAIRNE, MAP 162 A 8 ,,CORNER SYDNEY RD CAR INTO CREEK,MBKR19 NAIR00*CFSRES:
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on December 23, 2007, 03:41:10 PM
1919413 16:55:20 23-12-07 MFS: INC # 36 - 23/12/07 16:55,RESPOND To,MANNUM CFS,MANNUM, MAP 0 0 0 ,,SETUP OVAL FOR LANDING SITE .RESCUE 1 ETA 1700HRS. FROM MANNUM CAPTAIN,MNNM19*CFSRES: CFS Ridley Group Officers Response


Well thanks for the short notice,yet again......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on December 30, 2007, 02:52:13 PM
F70 WITH THE STATE OF THE CALL TAKING SHE COULD BE DEAD BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE SAAS Fulham


Ummmm, I think someone in SAAS comms dont like some procedures
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 30, 2007, 05:48:55 PM
F70 WITH THE STATE OF THE CALL TAKING SHE COULD BE DEAD BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE SAAS Fulham


Ummmm, I think someone in SAAS comms dont like some procedures


F12 OOPS PLEASE DISREGARD - LEARNER AT HELM -

This might explain it :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on December 30, 2007, 07:16:36 PM
1929055   20:38:43 30-12-07 MFS: STOP FOR THE NUFFER... 30/12/2007 8:38:31 PM
1929055   20:38:30 30-12-07 MFS: *CFSRES: NUFFER RESPOND TEST ONLY, TEST STREET, TEST TOWN, DO NOT RESPOND TEST ONLY 30/12/2007 8:38:18 PM CFS messages ?

If this really where a brigade it'd be funny to see the look on the faces of the public when they realise the CFS has gone and responded the Nuffer brigade...... they'd all be doomed...

Edit: Wrong thread....woops
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 30, 2007, 07:30:48 PM
F70 WITH THE STATE OF THE CALL TAKING SHE COULD BE DEAD BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE SAAS Fulham


Ummmm, I think someone in SAAS comms dont like some procedures


F12 OOPS PLEASE DISREGARD - LEARNER AT HELM -

This might explain it :-P

Those messages went too different cars.. - Im guessing they are un-related..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 31, 2007, 08:42:24 AM
Quote
1929055   20:38:43 30-12-07 MFS: STOP FOR THE NUFFER... 30/12/2007 8:38:31 PM
1929055   20:38:30 30-12-07 MFS: *CFSRES: NUFFER RESPOND TEST ONLY, TEST STREET, TEST TOWN, DO NOT RESPOND TEST ONLY 30/12/2007 8:38:18 PM CFS messages ?

It'd be funny to know who recived these messages,  must be a real nuffer! to annoy adelaide fire.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on December 31, 2007, 10:59:47 AM
 :roll:  it's a comms operator doing testing (quite common!)

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on December 31, 2007, 06:51:30 PM
1925389 20:08:18 31-12-07 MFS: INC # 129 - 31/12/07 20:08,RESPOND Tree Down,2 HYDE ST,PORT PIRIE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,AT THREADGOLD PARK, BLOCKING 3/4 OF ROAD. PRIORITY 2,PPI501*CFSRES: MFS Pt Pirie
Why SAMFS?
 :-(
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on December 31, 2007, 08:37:42 PM
Im guessing the ' potential risk to life ' was deemed high enough for an immediate response. (Port Pirie being fulltime)..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firey9119 on December 31, 2007, 09:26:37 PM
1918578 22:51:11 31-12-07 MFS: INC # 157 - 31/12/07 22:51,RESPOND LPG TANK/BULLET,MOONTA ,MOONTA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,BULLET AT BP IN MOONTA LEAKING,MNT681 KAD661*CFSRES: MFS: Moonta


Dont light that match!!!! :-o :-o

someone is in for a long night


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on December 31, 2007, 10:01:40 PM
Im guessing the ' potential risk to life ' was deemed high enough for an immediate response. (Port Pirie being fulltime)..
And?
Other responses aren't? This task isn't a SAMFS task, remember these are the same guys who are complaining about lack of resources
But I guess that doesn't matter & I thought that they were both full time & retained.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on January 01, 2008, 12:42:01 AM
Do they still have a tears icon on here, far out  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on January 01, 2008, 08:52:00 AM
Ah but when the tables are turn - who are the first to complain :wink:
Personally I don't care, however the act states Storm/ Flood SES.
And when you consider about 80% of the SAMFS budget is wages, then you can see why there isn't any money for extra appliances, fire fighters etc.
I posted the Pirie job to highlight the hypocrisy in the services, this is one of many!
However if you guys want to keep doing those type jobs, which you don't get funded for - fine. I'm sure the Pirie SES crew were happy not to interupt their  New Years eve celebrations.
Oh and here is the tears icon :cry:
Cheers :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on January 01, 2008, 09:20:25 AM
Im guessing the ' potential risk to life ' was deemed high enough for an immediate response. (Port Pirie being fulltime)..

Business rules state it should have been a dual response....common problem in major regional centres & metro areas...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 02, 2008, 08:36:44 PM
TRUR: ALL MEMBERS INVOLVED IN TODAYS GRASSFIRE ARE TO REPORT IN PERSON TO THE STATION IMMEDIATELY - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:26:59 PM CFS Truro Info

TRUR: ALL MEMBERS NOT WORKING ARE TO REPORT TO STATION NOW - REGIONAL COMMANDER 2/01/2008 9:53:27 PM CFS Truro Info

Oh oh :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on January 02, 2008, 08:37:57 PM
Yeah whats up with that????? :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 02, 2008, 08:40:55 PM
Yeah whats up with that????? :?


Oh to be a fly on the wall  :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on January 02, 2008, 08:42:28 PM
Don't think its a pat on the back
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on January 02, 2008, 10:55:38 PM
wonder if it has anything to do with

15:54:18 02-01-08 TRUR: HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL, WHAT BETTER WAY TO WORK OFF A HANGOVER AND ALL THAT FOOD THAN ATTENDING TRAINING TONIGHT? - EXERCISES INVOLVING - DRAUGHTING, WATER RELAY, SMD 1, RUNNING GRASSFIRES AND MOPPING UP TACTICS - TIMED TEAM BASED EVENTS CFS Truro Info 

and/or

17:33:54 02-01-08 MFS: INC # 69 - 02/01/08 17:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,TRURO CFS,TRURO, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ST KITTS, 4KN NW OF TRURO,SAIR55 TRUR00 NTPA19*CFSRES: CFS Truro Response
then
20:56:18 02-01-08 TRUR: TRURO 3-4 & 2-4 ARE NOW BACK AT STATION, RESPONDING AS NORMAL 2/01/2008 8:55:59 PM CFS Truro Info


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 02, 2008, 11:09:21 PM
I thought it was the captain being sarcastic but when an RO demands an attendance I think it is much more involved...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on January 03, 2008, 07:22:22 AM
Then came these 2 pager messages for the TRURO brigade  :|

1909108 21:27:35 02-01-08 TRUR: ALL MEMBERS INVOLVED IN TODAYS GRASSFIRE ARE TO REPORT IN PERSON TO THE STATION IMMEDIATELY - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:26:59 PM CFS Truro Info

1909108 21:34:48 02-01-08 TRUR: FURTHER TO LAST - CAN ALL AVAILABLE PERSONNEL NOT INVOLVED IN TODAYS FIRE ALSO RESPOND TO THE STATION - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:34:11 PM CFS Truro Info
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Smallflame on January 03, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
Then came these 2 pager messages for the TRURO brigade  :|

1909108 21:27:35 02-01-08 TRUR: ALL MEMBERS INVOLVED IN TODAYS GRASSFIRE ARE TO REPORT IN PERSON TO THE STATION IMMEDIATELY - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:26:59 PM CFS Truro Info

1909108 21:34:48 02-01-08 TRUR: FURTHER TO LAST - CAN ALL AVAILABLE PERSONNEL NOT INVOLVED IN TODAYS FIRE ALSO RESPOND TO THE STATION - CAPTAIN 2/01/2008 9:34:11 PM CFS Truro Info

Because one, all encompassing page wasn't funny enough!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firey9119 on January 03, 2008, 03:13:35 PM
does anyone know anymore about this??
 :-o :-o :? :? :-o :-o

sounds  like a bend over and kiss your donkey good bye thing!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 03, 2008, 05:30:10 PM
I am sure it will come out......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Smallflame on January 04, 2008, 05:53:19 AM
Good timing...



1908919 19:31:55 22-12-07 FIVE PERSONS REQUIRED FOR B SHIFT PLEASE PHONE 0438801329
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Admin/Info

19:34:57 22-12-07 MFS: INC # 121 - 22/12/07 19:34,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,NORTH RD,NAIRNE, MAP 162 A 8 ,,CORNER SYDNEY RD CAR INTO CREEK,MBKR19 NAIR00*CFSRES:
MBKR: Mt Barker (Station 127) CFS Brigade Page - Response

Darn straight it was... B shift starts at 20:00!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on January 06, 2008, 08:09:37 AM
MFS: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM LOCHABER 34 PORTABLE RADIO. GO, DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELADIE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. *CFSRES: 06/01/2008 9:31:59 AM CFS Lochaber Response

opps someone pushed the wrong button...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 06, 2008, 08:14:22 AM
They did push the wrong button.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on January 06, 2008, 11:57:42 AM
MFS: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM LOCHABER 34 PORTABLE RADIO. GO, DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELADIE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. *CFSRES: 06/01/2008 9:31:59 AM CFS Lochaber Response

opps someone pushed the wrong button...

Before that page went out, this one from Southern Fleurieu went.
MFS: EMERGENCY CALL RECEIVED FROM STH FLEURIEU CAR 2. GO, DGO & CAPTAIN CONTACT ADELADIE FIRE IMMEDIATELY. *CFSRES: 06/01/2008 8:39:51 AM
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 06, 2008, 01:36:53 PM
Wonder what page of the SOP's they misread,  on Testing communications equipment lol...

Im sure the guys at Adelaide Fire would have lifted an eye brow.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on January 06, 2008, 02:22:34 PM
MFS: INC # 43 - 06/01/08 13:01,RESPOND To,213 WEST TCE,CALLINGTON, MAP 000 0 0 ,,ASSIST AMB WITH 13 YEAR OLD WITH BRAKE HANDLE THROUGH LEG,CALN00*CFSRES: CFS Swanport Group Officers Response

Ouch
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on January 06, 2008, 03:14:02 PM
Dare say that job should have included a Rescue resource..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 06, 2008, 03:50:17 PM
From the radio traffic SAAS wanted man power to lift gear and the patient....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 07, 2008, 06:44:46 AM
 MFS: INC # 29 - 07/01/08 08:11,RESPOND To,1 ROBIN ST,MURRAY BRIDGE, MAP 350 F 15 ,,COMPLAINING OF
 SMELLING SMOKE IN HER HOUSE - BELIEVED TO BE THE 3RD TIME,MBR721*CFSRES:


surely enough is enough....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 07, 2008, 07:53:43 AM
time to umm...sweep out the druggies?  :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on January 07, 2008, 11:01:57 AM
12:08:05   07-01-08   LOFT: All Brigades who wish to transfer to "ONLINE" AIRS ie: submit AIRS on your computer.. Please let Rainer know 0438 560 ### 07/01/2008 CFS Lofty Group Officers Info

Online AIRS reports... Finally!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 07, 2008, 11:28:23 AM
i think its only a select few brigades being allowed to trial it for a while... sometime soon.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: littlejohn on January 07, 2008, 06:30:24 PM
i think its only a select few brigades being allowed to trial it for a while... sometime soon.

An article in the latest volunteer directed any brigades interested in using online reporting to contact someone-whose-name-I-don't-remember. Didn't give a timeline on when it would be implemented by the masses.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mengcfs on January 08, 2008, 10:01:41 AM
i think its only a select few brigades being allowed to trial it for a while... sometime soon.

An article in the latest volunteer directed any brigades interested in using online reporting to contact someone-whose-name-I-don't-remember. Didn't give a timeline on when it would be implemented by the masses.

SOPO Yvette Dowling.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on January 08, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 98 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response


UH??? STATION 98, WTF???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on January 08, 2008, 03:17:44 PM
Could be a number used for a station MDT or a training MDT? A few on here will probably be able to clarify..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 08, 2008, 03:44:14 PM
98 & pump 981 are training numbers i believe... training & testing.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 08, 2008, 05:13:29 PM
331's MDT has been playing up i believe...hence it may be fixed now ;)

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 08, 2008, 05:41:15 PM
331's MDT has been playing up i believe...hence it may be fixed now ;)



theyve always had MDT problems... i think the problem now is an MCT
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on January 09, 2008, 06:12:12 PM
1909108   19:39:15   09-01-08   TRUR: ** EXERCISE ONLY ** INC # 1, RESPOND GRASS FIRE, TRURO CFS, TRURO, MAP 0 0 0 ,, ST KITTS RD, 6KM NW OF TRURO, RAPID NO 264 954, TRUR00*CFSRES: **EXERCISE ONLY** 9/01/2008 7:38:40 PM CFS: Truro

.........
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on January 09, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
....?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on January 09, 2008, 06:23:39 PM
This was a previous incident that has been remarked as an exercise....so something must have been really borked for them to need to review or re do their turn-out procedures or whatever it is, if you look back at the previous page(s) you will see what has led up to this.

It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on January 09, 2008, 07:13:07 PM
This was a previous incident that has been remarked as an exercise....so something must have been really borked for them to need to review or re do their turn-out procedures or whatever it is, if you look back at the previous page(s) you will see what has led up to this.

It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong.

I think it is fantastic that the Brigade or whoever is mature enough to realise something has gone wrong, identify the training need and quickly train whoever to prevent it happening again.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on January 09, 2008, 07:36:44 PM
No Andrew I think they got kicked :wink: So I think they didn't get a choice.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on January 10, 2008, 02:22:05 PM
No Andrew I think they got kicked :wink: So I think they didn't get a choice.
cheers

...ahhhh for some people the cup of life is half-full, not half-empty...I still think the specific training in an identified knowledge gap is great...at least the volunteers did not say 'we were told off so stuff it' & walk away.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on January 10, 2008, 06:33:09 PM
Filtered Hell!
1928011 19:48:35 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: SES Central Region
1908016 19:48:33 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: SES Enfield Response Duty Officer?
1908870 19:48:24 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response
1908871 19:48:22 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS Athelstone Response
Good to see the services working together but.
I'm a half filled person Andrew :wink:
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 10, 2008, 06:40:31 PM
K77 no fire and Stop Call from 301.  situation found 210 or 310 (pipe rupture or medical assistance) lol bit fuzzy...and action take 21 (assistance/rescue)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on January 10, 2008, 06:45:38 PM
Ok thanks Zippy
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Master of Disaster on January 10, 2008, 11:05:58 PM
1908870 19:48:24 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS East Torrens Group Officers Response  
1908871 19:48:22 10-01-08 MFS: INC # 83 - 10/01/08 19:48,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,7 GILLES CR,HILLCREST, MAP 95 K 12 ,,EXPLOSION AND INJURY IN DOMESTIC STRUCTURE,ATHL19 ENF020 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS Athelstone Response   

Yeah we arrived upon getting the stop, guy tried to set himself alight medical treatment only taken to hospital CAT 2 with the police escort :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on January 11, 2008, 06:12:01 AM
1909508 22:45:16 10-01-08 Name:JOHN SIGNORIELLO Number:08******** Address:PARK ON KURRAJONG AVE -KOALA HAS BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR 3 HOURS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED THE KOALA TO THE BASE OF THE TREE AND JUST WONT STOP DRINKING JOHN IS QUITE CONCERNED Suburb:ATHELSTONE DEH Northern Lofty Duty Officer

If it wont stop drinking that means it must be severly dehydrated  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on January 11, 2008, 03:43:27 PM
1909508 22:45:16 10-01-08 Name:JOHN SIGNORIELLO Number:08******** Address:PARK ON KURRAJONG AVE -KOALA HAS BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR 3 HOURS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED THE KOALA TO THE BASE OF THE TREE AND JUST WONT STOP DRINKING JOHN IS QUITE CONCERNED Suburb:ATHELSTONE DEH Northern Lofty Duty Officer

If it wont stop drinking that means it must be severly dehydrated  :-)

It also means there sick.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on January 11, 2008, 04:13:05 PM
1925563 17:06:20 11-01-08 P127 Cat5 Riverton Ambulance Stn Ri Torrens Rd, Riverton C251 D10 SAAS Prospect

bit of a drive.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on January 11, 2008, 06:19:50 PM
not unusual anymore

the RFDS has implemented a policy in which they refuse to fly any patients to the city from the riverland, yorke Peninsula and the southern end of the mid-north anymore!  wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick and choose your work and defer it onto another agency?!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Blue on January 11, 2008, 07:13:19 PM
1909508 22:45:16 10-01-08 Name:JOHN SIGNORIELLO Number:08******** Address:PARK ON KURRAJONG AVE -KOALA HAS BEEN IN THE SAME SPOT FOR 3 HOURS PEOPLE HAVE MOVED THE KOALA TO THE BASE OF THE TREE AND JUST WONT STOP DRINKING JOHN IS QUITE CONCERNED Suburb:ATHELSTONE DEH Northern Lofty Duty Officer

If it wont stop drinking that means it must be severly dehydrated  :-)

It also means there sick.

Sounds like many other Aussies on a Thursday evening, drinking to excess and not moving much.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on January 12, 2008, 05:27:55 AM
Quote
not unusual anymore

the RFDS has implemented a policy in which they refuse to fly any patients to the city from the riverland, yorke Peninsula and the southern end of the mid-north anymore!  wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick and choose your work and defer it onto another agency?!!

as a nursing student who has completed attachment days with both adelaide and port augusta RFDS bases i would suggest that unless it is a retrieval (not all rfds jobs are) that by the time you factor in the 45 minutes it takes them to get airborne after recieveing call combined with flying time.......it may actually be quicker to drive them into town from yorke peninsula. (ps: wallaroo now has 5 ATS officer's)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 12, 2008, 06:25:07 AM
Understand it has something to do with the green stuff(money) and that the cost of fuel and running cost,they will still be doing medivacs...That might explan why we are seing the chopper down here more often these days...They tell me SAAS used to have their own aircraft years ago and they gave them to RFDS in the end....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 12, 2008, 08:53:34 AM
1908981 06:00:20 12-01-08 Good morning everyone in future can we all turn up to fire calls regardless of the call thank you - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info


Not helping the issue is it :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 12, 2008, 08:56:55 AM
Attention all some of you are supposed to be at a First Aid course today nobody has shown up please rectify MFS Whyalla Response

OOPS
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 12, 2008, 08:59:30 AM
MFS: SIG INC: INFORMATION ONLY: AIRDESK UNABLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO 60 WAYMOUTH STREET. AIRDESK OPERATING FROM MFS COMMS UFN. AFTER HOURS ATTENDING TO FIX PROBLEM. 12/01/2008 8:00:25 AM CFS HQ Info

I SAID "OPEN SESAME" :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on January 12, 2008, 09:52:02 AM
MFS: SIG INC: INFORMATION ONLY: AIRDESK UNABLE TO GAIN ACCESS TO 60 WAYMOUTH STREET. AIRDESK OPERATING FROM MFS COMMS UFN. AFTER HOURS ATTENDING TO FIX PROBLEM. 12/01/2008 8:00:25 AM CFS HQ Info

I SAID "OPEN SESAME" :-P

Maybe the internet service provider that Airdesk uses was down at the time probably having maintenance  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 12, 2008, 10:36:05 AM
lol nah robert...i believe it means they were locked out of the building ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Sam on January 12, 2008, 02:48:43 PM
What is the issue with this response????

MFS: INC # 48 - 12/01/08 16:05,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAROSSA VALLEY HWY,GAWLER EAST, MAP 24 B 7 ,,1 VEH VS FENCE UNKOWN INJ NEAR CONCORDIA CFS DVR INTOXICATED,GAW359*CFSRES:

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 12, 2008, 02:55:21 PM
My theory:  Response was based on the "Barossa Highway, Gawler East" address rather than the extra information given.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on January 12, 2008, 03:08:59 PM
Here's a bit of a muff up

1924962 10:52:06 12-01-08 V81 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11

1908895 10:54:27 12-01-08 MFS: INC # 31 - 12/01/08 10:54,RESPOND RCR,WAGGON RD,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 303 M 11 ,,CAR VS BUS 3 KNOWN CASUALTIES NEAR GREENHILLS ADVENTURE PARK,MCMP19 HIND00*CFSRES: CFS Mount Compass Response

1924962 10:55:43 12-01-08 GO81 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11 SAAS Road Crash Research

1924962 10:55:36 12-01-08 V76 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11 SAAS Road Crash Research

1924962 10:59:00 12-01-08 OC4 Cat2 Greenhills Adventure Park . Waggon Rd, Hindmarsh Valley 303 M11 SAAS Road Crash Research

1905665 10:59:42 12-01-08 MFS: INC # 31 - 12/01/08 10:59,RESPOND RCR,WAGGON RD,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 303 M 11 ,,CAR VS BUS 3 CASUALTIES NEAR GREENHILLS,VHB719*CFSRES: MFS Victor Response
 

 1908073 11:04:34 12-01-08 MFS: INC # 31 - 12/01/08 11:04,RESPOND RCR,WAGGON RD,HINDMARSH VALLEY, MAP 303 M 11 ,,CAR VS BUS NEAR GREENHILLS,STH029*CFSRES: SES South Coast Response

Thats a fair distance for Mt Compass, about 25kms to that scene, considering it's only about 4km for MFS, and 8km for SES.  And Goolwa is probably closer than Compass as well










 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on January 12, 2008, 03:14:30 PM
well at least the correct resources were responded without too much delay though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on January 12, 2008, 04:17:06 PM
it reccon it would depend on traffic from compass or goolwa
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on January 12, 2008, 06:17:18 PM
Quote
not unusual anymore

the RFDS has implemented a policy in which they refuse to fly any patients to the city from the riverland, yorke Peninsula and the southern end of the mid-north anymore!  wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick and choose your work and defer it onto another agency?!!

as a nursing student who has completed attachment days with both adelaide and port augusta RFDS bases i would suggest that unless it is a retrieval (not all rfds jobs are) that by the time you factor in the 45 minutes it takes them to get airborne after recieveing call combined with flying time.......it may actually be quicker to drive them into town from yorke peninsula. (ps: wallaroo now has 5 ATS officer's)

I can see your point, but considering that SAAS is struggling with it's current workload in metro - it's hardly smart to send a metro resource out on a country transfer.

whilst some of these cases are RV's - there are a large number of known and documented cases where a crew drives to Renmark or Berri from metro and return - thus blowing your theory of it being faster out of the water.

PS: thank you morgan, for informing me of Wallaroo RMTS - which started 4 years ago!

PPS: Yes - I'm taking the piss!! :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on January 12, 2008, 09:16:40 PM
it reccon it would depend on traffic from compass or goolwa

18km from Goolwa to Victor (dead flat all the way)

25km from Compass to Victor (quite hilly)

But anywho Hindmarsh Valley and the mets lads would have been there pretty quick and had it over in a jiffy.

And definatly not suggesting we should have been called either. :wink: In case anyone was thinking that. :-)

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 12, 2008, 09:50:24 PM
lol theres a point where its a cluttered scene...pretty close to it me thinks...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hair on January 12, 2008, 10:22:16 PM
MFS: INC # 73 - 12/01/08 23:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,CEDUNA CFS,CEDUNA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,END OF JETTY AT FORESHORE HOTEL ON FIRE,CEDU19*CFSRES: CFS Ceduna Response
MFS: CFSRES CEDUNA MORE CREW REQUIRED, SECOND APPLIANCE IS NEEDED ON SCENE 12/01/2008 11:32:49 PM CFS Ceduna Response :? :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 12, 2008, 10:43:01 PM
Ceduna's 2nd Alarm brigade's are a fair distance away, and they actually serve a large area as "the BA/RCR/Hazmat Brigade" in the region.

So there 2nd Appliance rolling is quite vital i assume.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 13, 2008, 05:41:18 AM
Welcome to remote area firefighting......Not sure if they have the man power but if they did may be time for a 3 pump at ceduna???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 13, 2008, 06:37:56 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:

aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on January 13, 2008, 08:43:49 AM
Welcome to remote area firefighting......Not sure if they have the man power but if they did may be time for a 3 pump at ceduna???
Obviously not if they have to page out for a 2nd crew?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on January 13, 2008, 08:45:14 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:

aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????

MFS maybe re-writing the response areas already. Or just our magnificent CRD system working efficiently again.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on January 13, 2008, 09:07:03 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:

aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????

MFS maybe re-writing the response areas already. Or just our magnificent CRD system working efficiently again.

That is a very odd response indeed, considering Willunga & Sellicks are closer to that area than M/Vale & Christies and Seaford. Nice way for the guys at MV to be woken up, an incorrect page at 8am Sunday morning:? : :-(
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 13, 2008, 10:08:14 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:

aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????

MFS maybe re-writing the response areas already. Or just our magnificent CRD system working efficiently again.

That is a very odd response indeed, considering Willunga & Sellicks are closer to that area than M/Vale & Christies and Seaford. Nice way for the guys at MV to be woken up, an incorrect page at 8am Sunday morning:? : :-(

OMG well there is going to be MFS at Aldinga eventually so maybe Christie Downs are getting an area familiarisation :-P

Should have been Aldinga,Sellicks,Willunga.

Then again not as bad as paging Stirling to go to a RCR job 70kms north of Port Augusta....instead of Stirling North :oops:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 13, 2008, 10:34:57 AM
It would be very nice to see the Prescribed plans existing in Bom's for recommended responses.  Brigades could point out  'No thats incorrect'.

At Least...when something goes wrong...CORRECT IT permanantly.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on January 13, 2008, 10:43:36 AM
It would be very nice to see the Prescribed plans existing in Bom's for recommended responses.  Brigades could point out  'No thats incorrect'.

At Least...when something goes wrong...CORRECT IT permanantly.
Been there, tried that. We got a copy of ours, worked out what needed to be changed and guess what? Nothing happened. Stiil chasing it now.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on January 13, 2008, 10:45:39 AM
MFS: INC # 14 - 13/01/08 07:52,RESPOND Private Alarm,ALDINGA RD,ALDINGA, MAP 224 D 4 ,,10 EMERALD RD CROSS RD ALDINGA BEACH RD,ALDB19 MRPH00 CDN431*CFSRES:

aldinga, christies & morphett vale??????

I wonder if the MFS will be asking for their $50  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 13, 2008, 10:47:37 AM
Yeh how about we just say...how about we edit the system for you...personally perform the changes  FREE of CHARGE  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 13, 2008, 10:52:28 AM
Are you sure you want to do it for free you'll be there a while Zippy
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on January 13, 2008, 01:03:02 PM
Are you sure you want to do it for free you'll be there a while Zippy
At least it WILL get done!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 13, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
hahahaha...at least something will get done other than sitting on this forum in my free time :P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on January 13, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
1908971 10:32:39 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 28 - 13/01/08 10:32,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,LESS THAN 1 KM TOWARD MCLAREN FLAT,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Kangarilla Response


1909048 10:32:35 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 28 - 13/01/08 10:32,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,LESS THAN 1 KM TOWARD MCLAREN FLAT,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Blackwood Response


1908910 10:32:24 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 28 - 13/01/08 10:32,RESPOND RCR,MAIN ST,KANGARILLA, MAP 0 0 0 ,,LESS THAN 1 KM TOWARD MCLAREN FLAT,MDWS19 BKWD19 KANG00*CFSRES: CFS Meadows Response

1924962 10:30:00 13-01-08 N81 Cat2 Easton Rd, Clarendon 178 J9 SAAS Road Crash Research
1925572 10:29:56 13-01-08 N81 Cat2 Easton Rd, Clarendon 178 J9 SAAS Noarlunga


1908969 10:28:24 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 27 - 13/01/08 10:27,RESPOND RCR,EASTON RD,CLARENDON, MAP 178 J 9 ,,VEHICLE ROLLOVER POSSIBLE FIRE,MDWS19 BKWD19 CLDN00*CFSRES: CFS Clarendon Response


1909048 10:28:18 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 27 - 13/01/08 10:27,RESPOND RCR,EASTON RD,CLARENDON, MAP 178 J 9 ,,VEHICLE ROLLOVER POSSIBLE FIRE,MDWS19 BKWD19 CLDN00*CFSRES: CFS Blackwood Response

1908910 10:28:07 13-01-08 MFS: INC # 27 - 13/01/08 10:27,RESPOND RCR,EASTON RD,CLARENDON, MAP 178 J 9 ,,VEHICLE ROLLOVER POSSIBLE FIRE,MDWS19 BKWD19 CLDN00*CFSRES: CFS Meadows Response

1929698 10:27:41 13-01-08 MV71 Cat2 Kangarilla Rd, Kangarilla SAAS McLaren Vale

Interesting, wonder if its the same job or just a bad case of timing as both rescue resources have been responded to both jobs, also interesting to see the SAAS pages.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 13, 2008, 03:35:51 PM
two separate jobs...with a heap of confusion in the first 10 mins ive been told.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 14, 2008, 06:03:55 AM

Interesting, wonder if its the same job or just a bad case of timing as both rescue resources have been responded to both jobs, also interesting to see the SAAS pages.


i wondered that for a moment also, but the first one is a road north of clarendon, where as the second is the main drag, south of kangarilla... very differant locations. Pretty handy having Meadows on that dual response actually... got the appropriate resources going for both (just divert a rescue resource), otherwise ya would have only had Meadows on the road to begin with.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 15, 2008, 02:24:12 PM
BURNSIDE TWO FOUR WILL BE OFFLINE UNTIL EARLY NEXT WEEK - REAR DIFF IS TOTALLY DESTROYED & WAS ABOUT TO LET GO IN A BIG WAY - PARTS ARE BEING SOURCED AT THE MOMENT - FROM DAVID

Another KI casualty....I reckon they should give you a new one Dave 8-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 15, 2008, 03:17:31 PM
Burnside 24 was off line recently for repairs after KI then i think was offline again for something else, went back online in the last few days and broken again makes you wonder whats going on with these trucks   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on January 16, 2008, 11:05:44 AM
our 24 has had a broken rear axle and just replaced the clutch all during this season.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on January 16, 2008, 12:57:47 PM
...makes you wonder whats going on with these trucks   

Simple really. Busy brigades that actually use their appliances are stuck with one and two decade old junk heaps that are falling apart and held together by masking tape and goodwill, whereas brigades that do a handful of jobs a year get the first trucks out of the factories...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 17, 2008, 09:16:09 AM
10:30:52 17-01-08 PLS PH NICOLE ELY <number removed> OR <number removed> FROM ABC TV NEWS RE FIRE TOWERS IN ADELAIDE HILLS
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 17, 2008, 09:33:47 AM
08:30:19 17-01-08 CFS: BOMBER 583 DEPLOYED TO BUNBURY WA FOR INTERSTATE SUPPORT TO SW-WA. BOMBER 558 BEING ACTIVATED AS BACK UP AIRCRAFT AT WOODSIDE - SARC ELLIS.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on January 17, 2008, 12:48:35 PM
10:30:52 17-01-08 PLS PH NICOLE ELY <number removed> OR <number removed> FROM ABC TV NEWS RE FIRE TOWERS IN ADELAIDE HILLS

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/17/2140461.htm
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on January 17, 2008, 02:56:36 PM
all crew the skyjet has landed cheers the boss
       -= MFS Port Lincoln Repsonse =-
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 17, 2008, 04:39:28 PM
 MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:03,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CNR ALMA RD. TRUCK VS PEDESTRIAN.,RIVN19 TARL00*CFSRES: CFS Gilbert Group Officers Response

 MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:21,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,SAD029*CFSRES: SES Saddleworth

 MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,KAP029*CFSRES: SES North Region

just a few mistakes in the paging but oh well
my question is what was riverton doing responding to a VA on our area the job was a motorbike v truck
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boss on January 17, 2008, 05:19:32 PM
MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:03,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CNR ALMA RD. TRUCK VS PEDESTRIAN.,RIVN19 TARL00*CFSRES: CFS Gilbert Group Officers Response

 MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:21,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,SAD029*CFSRES: SES Saddleworth

 MFS: INC # 35 - 17/01/08 13:25,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,CHARLES ST,TARLEE, MAP 0 0 0 ,,ASSIST SAPOL WITH TRAFFIC CONTROL AT MVA,KAP029*CFSRES: SES North Region

just a few mistakes in the paging but oh well
my question is what was riverton doing responding to a VA on our area the job was a motorbike v truck

the tarlee area has all ways been riverton and hamley area for rcr kapunda's area stops just be for quarry on the hill plus being an rcr job who cares which area it is as long as you get the job done
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 18, 2008, 01:25:59 PM
every other road crash that has been in the tarlee area for the last 2 years at least has been ours we have only seen riverton or hamley at one other crash in the area ant that was at linwood 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boss on January 18, 2008, 01:41:01 PM
every other road crash that has been in the tarlee area for the last 2 years at least has been ours we have only seen riverton or hamley at one other crash in the area ant that was at linwood 

i think you need to check your facts more carefly riverton & hamley has responed to more rcr in tarlee area than kapunda ses has and i konw that for a fact
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Blue on January 18, 2008, 02:45:14 PM
MFS: INC # 34 - 18/01/08 12:27,RESPOND Assist Resident,8 MCDONALD ST,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAT STUCK IN A TREE FOR 3 HOURS ACROSS FROM FREW PARK,MTG701

"mew....mew"
"here kitty kitty kitty!"

64 on straight jet me thinks....   :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on January 18, 2008, 03:06:18 PM
every other road crash that has been in the tarlee area for the last 2 years at least has been ours we have only seen riverton or hamley at one other crash in the area ant that was at linwood 

How do you know if you weren't called? ;)  Are you sure you didn't mean "Every Road crash that we were called to has been ours..."
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 18, 2008, 05:41:03 PM
CFS_Firey thanks sorry i did mean every one we have been called to which has been to many in that area
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on January 18, 2008, 08:27:20 PM

just a few mistakes in the paging but oh well
my question is what was riverton doing responding to a VA on our area the job was a motorbike v truck

The RCR resource directory lists for Tarlee
1st rescue- Rivereton CFS
2nd rescue- Hamley Bridge CFS

No mention of SES

So it doesnt look like as many mistakes in the paging as you think
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Gungellan34 on January 21, 2008, 09:13:29 PM
Quote
MFS: INC # 34 - 18/01/08 12:27,RESPOND Assist Resident,8 MCDONALD ST,MT GAMBIER, MAP 0 0 0 ,,CAT STUCK IN A TREE FOR 3 HOURS ACROSS FROM FREW PARK,MTG701

"mew....mew"
"here kitty kitty kitty!"

64 on straight jet me thinks....   


Maybe use the roof monitor of your Scania for the ultimate wet pussy launching contest, Blue!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on January 22, 2008, 07:35:52 AM
1909105 17:30:54 21-01-08 ANGN: Burnover Wednesday night, If not done you will be unable to attend Grass Fires, Also training wil be on Truro 34 .From Lt 1 1/21/2008 5:30:21 PM CFS Angaston Info  :? thought this was meant to be done before the fire season??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 22, 2008, 02:00:06 PM
15:05:25   22-01-08   HAVE CONFIRMED FROM REGION 3 CAMBRAI IS NO LONGER RCR OR BA BRIGADE DUE TO LACK OF TRAINED MEMBERS-MT PLEASANT AND MANNUM TO RESPOND IN CAMBRAI RESPONSE AREA-FROM JASON CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

its a bit sad when it comes to this
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 22, 2008, 07:45:14 PM
Last time I called Cambrai to a job they turned up in shorts and a t shirt to a grass fire...only one person had his full PPE. :-o

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 23, 2008, 04:17:46 AM
Whats wrong with shorts and a T Shirt??? only joking yes its sad when this happens but the truth is NO ONE is joining the service in some of these area's as people are leaveing the land or moving to the bigger city's for work..It will only get worse before it gets better...Now where did I put that new RCR chopper with all that remote area gear.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on January 23, 2008, 12:16:59 PM
MFS: INC # 40 - 23/01/08 13:09,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MILLBROOK RD,INGLEWOOD, MAP 74 M 13 ,,2 CARS INVOLVED NO INJURIES - FROM POLICE MESS NO 499,HERM00 TTGY19*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 43 - 23/01/08 13:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,YATALA VALE RD,YATALA VALE, MAP 73 C 16 ,,SCRUB FIRE STARTED BY A QUAD BIKE,TTGY19 SAIR55 GGV311*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 44 - 23/01/08 13:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GUNDA RD,BANKSIA PARK, MAP 85 K 5 ,,IN THE CREEK,TTGY19 SAIR55 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully

Would have been a bit frantic lucky they have 3 trucks, dunno how easily they can man them all on demand tho.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 23, 2008, 12:19:59 PM
with the comment about t shirt and shorts i was looking at the pics on the compton website and there is a pic of a firey doing fire cover at a va with sneakers and turn out gear gpes to show nobody is perfect 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on January 23, 2008, 05:31:22 PM
1st try

08:40:20   23-01-08   SEAF MRPH RESPOND FIRE ALARM ELDERCARE DUAL RESP, CNR SEAFORD RD & GRAND BOULEVARD, SEAFORD *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 23/01/2008 08:38:56 CFS Morphett Vale Info

2nd try

08:43:48   23-01-08   SEAF MRPH RESPOND FIRE ALARM ELDERCARE DUAL RESP, CNR SEAFORD RD & GRAND BOULEVARD, SEAFORD *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 23/01/2008 08:42:28 CFS Seaford Info

3rd time lucky!!!!

08:44:37   23-01-08   MFS: INC # 26 - 23/01/08 08:44,RESPOND To,SEAFORD RD,SEAFORD, MAP 195 F 14 ,,RESPOND WITH CFS TO FIRE ALARM AT ELDERCARE CNR GRAND BOULEVARD,SEAF00 CDN431 MRPH00 CDN439*CFSRES: CFS Seaford Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 23, 2008, 05:39:17 PM
gave morphett vale a 4min head start ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Blue on January 23, 2008, 06:33:45 PM
with the comment about t shirt and shorts i was looking at the pics on the compton website and there is a pic of a firey doing fire cover at a va with sneakers and turn out gear gpes to show nobody is perfect 

Special issue sneakers, gas tight, splash proof, rated to 1000degC  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on January 23, 2008, 06:36:42 PM
with the comment about t shirt and shorts i was looking at the pics on the compton website and there is a pic of a firey doing fire cover at a va with sneakers and turn out gear gpes to show nobody is perfect 

Wish i knew that at the time.....that photo is bit over 2 years old and first time ive noticed that.

Incorrect PPE is a pet hate of mine!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 23, 2008, 06:47:08 PM
18:56:45 23-01-08 REPLACEMENT RURAL APPLIANCE IN THE STATION WHILE 24 IS BEING REPAIRED - CALL SIGN IS ,BURNSIDE 34, DRIVERS AND CREWS PLEASE FAMILIARISE YOURSELF WITH BASIC RURAL STOWAGE PLUS 2BAZ CFS Burnside Info
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 23, 2008, 07:20:31 PM
mmmm Must be the one of the many old 34 that is floating around,i am sure they would have gear to put on it.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on January 23, 2008, 08:43:35 PM
On the issue of correct PPE I hear that Photoshop works wonders with making members seem to be wearing gloves and other items (spot the pic of the photoshopped volly in the volunteer mag...)

nah just kidding for those who went and grabbed it. lol. but im sure it has been done
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on January 23, 2008, 09:18:20 PM
Quote
gave morphett vale a 4min head start

Actually both the WFAM pages went to Seaford and Morphett Vale, it's just a pity that they haven't actually properly tested or commissioned that alarm yet - if they had they would have found that the response pager messages were ending up on our brigade info address instead of the brigade response one. That would explain why the Group Officers had no idea what was going on until the page from Adelaide Fire came out for 431 and 439. I believe the situation is soon to be rectified.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on January 23, 2008, 09:27:39 PM
mmmm Must be the one of the many old 34 that is floating around,i am sure they would have gear to put on it.......
Could possibly be the one Blackwood had?
PLS PH COCKO ON xxxxxxxxx IF AVAILABLE TO DECOMMISSION BLACKWOOD 34 ASAP
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on January 24, 2008, 05:55:42 AM
MFS: INC # 40 - 23/01/08 13:09,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MILLBROOK RD,INGLEWOOD, MAP 74 M 13 ,,2 CARS INVOLVED NO INJURIES - FROM POLICE MESS NO 499,HERM00 TTGY19*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 43 - 23/01/08 13:27,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,YATALA VALE RD,YATALA VALE, MAP 73 C 16 ,,SCRUB FIRE STARTED BY A QUAD BIKE,TTGY19 SAIR55 GGV311*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully
MFS: INC # 44 - 23/01/08 13:33,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,GUNDA RD,BANKSIA PARK, MAP 85 K 5 ,,IN THE CREEK,TTGY19 SAIR55 OAK301*CFSRES: CFS: Tea Tree Gully

Would have been a bit frantic lucky they have 3 trucks, dunno how easily they can man them all on demand tho.....

I was down the road yesterday from their station, it took them alittle while to get them out but they did and all looked fully crewed.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on January 24, 2008, 06:57:05 PM
19:58:33 24-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC084 24/01/08 19:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,MAIN NORTH RD,ELIZABETH DOWNS MAP 52 A 12 TG182,ADEL BOUND SOUTH OF ULEY RD ON LHS,SAIR55 ELZ331

Is it just today that this has started happenning??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on January 24, 2008, 07:00:33 PM
18:58:24 24-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC080 24/01/08 18:57,RESPOND Private Alarm,RAMCO ,RAMCO MAP 0 0 0 TG205,GOLDEN HEIGHTS PUMPING STATION,WAIK19 

19:22:57 24-01-08 BA178 Cat2 Ramco Rd, Waikerie FIRE

Unfortunately some people dont take these alarms seriously and say that alarms arent real calls. Well this one was, 2 people affected by smoke.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on January 26, 2008, 10:46:40 PM
1918604   00:13:02 27-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC002 27/01/08 00:12,RESPOND To,PORT LINCOLN MFS,PORT LINCOLN MAP 0 0 0 TG192,FUEL FIRE W/WORTHS + PETROL,PLI549 MFS: Port Lincoln

Fun......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on January 27, 2008, 10:01:21 AM
07:22:05 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, NATIONAL RAIL REST HOUSE, RAILWAY PDE, PORTAUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:22:01 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, BIG W, 5 EL ELAMEIN ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:56 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION STACK, HOSPITAL RD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:52 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta

Where these just testings? or did the Port Augusta crew have four separate calls within 13 seconds?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 27, 2008, 11:10:11 AM
I do agree, either that...or they are notoriously faulty.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on January 27, 2008, 11:54:12 AM
That particular capcode was not the port augusta response one though.

1918593 17:59:52 26-01-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: STN No 51 1800 HOUR PAGER TEST, PORT AUGUSTA FIRE STATION MFS Pt Augusta Response

1918602 07:21:52 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 27, 2008, 12:03:41 PM
07:22:05 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, NATIONAL RAIL REST HOUSE, RAILWAY PDE, PORTAUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:22:01 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, BIG W, 5 EL ELAMEIN ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:56 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION STACK, HOSPITAL RD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
07:21:52 27-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta

Where these just testings? or did the Port Augusta crew have four separate calls within 13 seconds?


on surface value, there all "no carrier" alarms... perhaps someone cut the line that connects them.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on January 27, 2008, 04:35:53 PM
i know that a new hardware store has been "off lined" due to 6 or 8 no carrier alarms over the course of a weekend.
Hopefully there is a secondary alarm system that they are falling back on during this time??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on January 27, 2008, 08:20:33 PM
If the sprinkler head was knocked off causing water flow through the system wouldn't this normally be a primary alarm??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on January 27, 2008, 08:41:59 PM
Yes a sprinkler activation would be a primary alarm. A no carrier is a fault in the link from the premises to the MFS. Or a fault at either end.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 28, 2008, 07:37:15 AM
Footy if its the hardware shop I think,it has a number of back up alarms....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on January 28, 2008, 08:16:56 AM
02:24:22 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, NATIONAL RAIL REST HOUSE, RAILWAY PDE, PORTAUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
02:24:18 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, BIG W, 5 EL ELAMEIN ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
02:24:13 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATION STACK, HOSPITAL RD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta
02:24:07 28-01-08 NO CARRIER ALARM, NO CARRIER, TELSTRA MICROWAVE STATION, 111 TASSIE ST, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta

Same thing again? Is there anyone from up there that can explain?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on January 28, 2008, 08:42:18 AM
09:40:54  28-01-08  MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:40,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,SMOKE FROM WALLS GARAGE,BUR561 BRRA00 CFS Burra Response

09:49:41  28-01-08  MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:49,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,WALLS GARAGE,BRRA00 CFS Burra Response

09:51:39  28-01-08  MFS: URGMSG BURRA RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, 7MARKET ST, WALLS GARAGE 28/01/2008 9:51:20 AM CFS Burra Response


Do you think Burra may have got the idea?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 28, 2008, 09:00:32 AM
too right there mate,  a single CFSRES then a URGMSG should be enough...a proper default didnt occur. 

We all know who *doesnt* these out of character actions ;).
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 28, 2008, 12:09:45 PM
i know that a new hardware store has been "off lined" due to 6 or 8 no carrier alarms over the course of a weekend.
Hopefully there is a secondary alarm system that they are falling back on during this time??

a no carrier means the alarm system is offline.... no connection to the service provider (MFS??) and therefore no information from the premises to the fire service.... fall back would be 000.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jimmy_91 on January 28, 2008, 02:24:11 PM
1908918 15:21:43 28-01-08 MdwsInfo: Today is Austrian National Holiday, no training, unless you are wearing leather pants and can dance while slapping knees. That is all. Love & Kisses, Broady. CFS Meadows Info

Austrian  :? :wink: :-D 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on January 28, 2008, 02:25:07 PM
what time the knee slapping :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on January 28, 2008, 03:40:34 PM
09:40:54  28-01-08  MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:40,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,SMOKE FROM WALLS GARAGE,BUR561 BRRA00 CFS Burra Response

09:49:41  28-01-08  MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC017 28/01/08 09:49,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,7 MARKET ST,BURRA MAP 0 0 0 TG193,WALLS GARAGE,BRRA00 CFS Burra Response

09:51:39  28-01-08  MFS: URGMSG BURRA RESPOND STRUCTURE COMMERCIAL, 7MARKET ST, WALLS GARAGE 28/01/2008 9:51:20 AM CFS Burra Response


Do you think Burra may have got the idea?

I am guessing they didn't !!!!

Who knows maybe they asked for another page, then got no crew so wanted the siren set off, who knows, wasn't there.......

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on January 29, 2008, 07:56:21 PM
1919118   21:14:50 29-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC069 29/01/08 21:14,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,WAROOKA CFS,WAROOKA MAP 0 0 0 TG103,RONALD ROSE PROPERTY, 3RD PADDOCK,SAIR55 WARK00 MRNO00 CFS: Warooka

There is no rest for the Warooka Boys and Girls....It seems.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 29, 2008, 10:56:40 PM
MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Woodside Response

MFS: CFSRES FURTHER CALLS ADVISE THIS HAS NOW STARTED A GRASS FIRE CFS Woodside Response

Last I knew Onkaparinga Group was TG140, obviously have'nt fixed the filtered from the other day.TG100 is Region 2 boys :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 30, 2008, 08:08:35 AM
hehe yep, not the only time its happened...lets wait and see what the Talkgroup is for Lobethal, Lenswood and Balhannah ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on January 30, 2008, 08:27:09 AM
does it matter MFS assign a tg to an incident so be it if it is 100. for all i care want the first job have TG 1 the 2nd job have tg 2 etc and when inc no 1 is finished then tg 1 can be re assigned.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on January 30, 2008, 09:24:29 AM
Yes bittenyakka it matters,the GRN talkgroups have been assigned for several years now and worked well having dedicated primary and secondary talkgroups for each group.
Now that AF have finally got around to following SOP10.14 and should be putting the primary response brigades talkgroup on the page ,it will help brigades such as your own that respond with other groups to help determine who is primary to each response.
The new funding arrangements that have been mooted will be very much influenced by the amount of primary calls each brigade does each year, unfortunately this looks to be the way of the future,tell me if I'm wrong,my thoughts only.

Cheers Jaff
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on January 30, 2008, 12:45:20 PM
Oh so it means we will have a referee in determining  who is primary response  rather than hoping the other brigade knows their boundary's
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on January 30, 2008, 01:34:07 PM
Or having a captain who thinks he is boss at every call?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on January 30, 2008, 03:38:37 PM
and footy kicks a goal!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 30, 2008, 04:21:37 PM
hehe yep, not the only time its happened...lets wait and see what the Talkgroup is for Lobethal, Lenswood and Balhannah ;)

OK you asked :-P

00:09:58 30-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Onkaparinga Group Officers Response
1909020 00:09:56 30-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Lobethal Response
1909018 00:09:48 30-01-08 ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Onkaparinga Group Officers Response
1909022 00:09:47 30-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC001 30/01/08 00:09,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,RIDGE RD,WOODSIDE MAP 137 E 7 TG100,VEHICLE ACCIDENT AND FIRE,WDSD00 LOBE19 CFS Woodside Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on January 30, 2008, 06:13:02 PM
Quote
Or having a captain who thinks he is boss at every call?

pretty certain the captain IS the boss :? or maybe it's the cadet................ :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on January 30, 2008, 07:29:18 PM
On face value you are probably right. that post looked awfully like i was saying captain shouldnt be in charge. Let me clarify. A captain from a brigade that is consistently second or third on scene should not try and assume responsibility over the incident and assume that because they are there, everyone else should bow down before them.
I hope this puts the statment in context. Chain of Command is important, Captains recognising and following that chain at a multi brigade/agency incident is also important...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on January 31, 2008, 08:22:18 AM
Yes bittenyakka it matters,the GRN talkgroups have been assigned for several years now and worked well having dedicated primary and secondary talkgroups for each group.

add "in region 1" to the end of that (as only region 1 have 2 TGs per group).

it doesn't really matter whether we have fixed TGs assigned to groups or use a rotating first-available system of allocation, except that CFS has chosen the first way so that is how we do it.

the reason why it is particularly a problem in this case though is that the pager message has a region 2 TG for a job in region 1, and apart from a few exceptions (and a bit of overlap) regional TGs only work within the region they are allocated to.  Anyway this error in this case is being corrected.


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 31, 2008, 11:04:53 AM
09:48:52 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Ceduna Group Officers Response
1919439 09:48:50 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Nunjikompita Response


Now that makes an interesting drive to a job so far away :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on January 31, 2008, 11:17:51 AM
09:48:52 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Ceduna Group Officers Response
1919439 09:48:50 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Nunjikompita Response


Now that makes an interesting drive to a job so far away :-o

The tag associated with that page - listed as Nunji Response, is incorrect...it was actually Eucla who were paged...even further to travel!!   :-D

And Ceduna Group no longer exist...name changed to "Western Eyre Group " a few months ago...

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on January 31, 2008, 11:36:00 AM
09:48:52 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Ceduna Group Officers Response
1919439 09:48:50 31-01-08 MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC027 31/01/08 09:47,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ROBERTSTOWN CFS,ROBERTSTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,PEACE HALL COMMERCIAL STREET,ROBERTSTOWN PROBLEMS WITH CREW,EUCL00 CFS Nunjikompita Response


Now that makes an interesting drive to a job so far away :-o

The tag associated with that page - listed as Nunji Response, is incorrect...it was actually Eucla who were paged...even further to travel!!   :-D

And Ceduna Group no longer exist...name changed to "Western Eyre Group " a few months ago...

Pip

I knew it was Eucla, and you and I know the group name has changed but obviously others dont :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 31, 2008, 12:05:45 PM
far west thirty-four eh?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on January 31, 2008, 12:28:25 PM
Not sure of what you mean there Mack.... Far West brigade is based at Nundroo, and has a 34... different brigade to both Eucla & Nunji..

Interesting though...I though Eucla had gone from CFS, and back to FESA (since they are actually based on the WA side of the border.......! )

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on January 31, 2008, 12:36:40 PM
aahh i must just be thinking of the furthest west fire resources we have in SA, Eucla are not CFS, as you said Pip.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on January 31, 2008, 03:17:09 PM
MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC050 31/01/08 16:31,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,ESPLANADE ,PORT WILLUNGA MAP 223 F 4 TG132,ADJ STAR OF GREECE RESTAURANT,STAR OF,ALDB19 CFS Aldinga Response

MFS: MFS *CFSRES INC050 31/01/08 16:38,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,ESPLANADE ,PORT WILLUNGA MAP 223 F 4,NEAR STAR OF GREECE,NAD020 SES Northern Districts Response?

hmm  maybe a lot of confusions happenin in Adel fire...not using full names might be havings its toll.

NAD020 and NOA029 too similar?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on January 31, 2008, 03:19:19 PM
the computer shows best response for the area so there could be a fault with the information and possible operator interference
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 01, 2008, 05:40:01 AM
the computer shows best response for the area so there could be a fault with the information and possible operator interference



the computer shows the reccomended, or preset, response... then any additional resources have to be entered in.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 02, 2008, 09:47:12 PM
1909800   22:48:54 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 02/02/08 22:48,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,91 CHILDERS ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 H 4 TG182,BACKYARD,SAIR55 ADL202 - State Airdesk
1909800   22:52:35 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC073 02/02/08 22:52,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,93 GOVER ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 M 4 TG182,IN BET GOVER AND CHILDERS,SAIR55 ADL201 - State Airdesk
1909800   22:54:09 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC073 02/02/08 22:53,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,93 GOVER ST,NORTH ADELAIDE MAP 1 M 4 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 - State Airdesk

Type: Grass Fire Became 1st Alarm Structure then went 2nd Alarm
Location: Between 91 Childers st & Gover st, North Adelaide
Appliances: 201, 203, 202, 206, 371
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 02, 2008, 10:28:48 PM
Here is one for you all-
1919303 23:00:56 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Chaffey Group Officers Response
1919310 23:00:54 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Paringa Response
Incorrect resourse
1928012 23:21:43 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES East Region
1915574 23:21:41 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES Renmark Response
Correct response - Why? simple this unit has specially modified ladders and litters to get casualities off houseboats. Pity it took 20 minutes :-(
I'm not sure why non rescue teams are sent to these jobs, if was a simple pickup and carry  SAAS wouldn't ask for help would they?
Similiar to the South Coast fatality a couple of weeks ago.
At least this time something may be done as our boss is also a vollie at Paringa, so finally the message may get through heres hoping.
Have a good night & cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 02, 2008, 10:32:39 PM
Here is one for you all-
1919303 23:00:56 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Chaffey Group Officers Response
1919310 23:00:54 02-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC077 02/02/08 22:59,RESPOND Assist SAAS,PARINGA CFS,PARINGA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,PRIORITY 2 - MUTHO RD HEADINGS CLIFF - H,OUSE BOAT BIRTHED AT 600KM MARK - AT CAM,PING GROUND TOWARDS WILKADENE,PARG00 CFS Paringa Response
Incorrect resourse
1928012 23:21:43 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES East Region
1915574 23:21:41 02-02-08 MFS: RESOND AND ASSIST SAAS WITH COLLAPSE ON HOUSEBOAT - WILKADENE - REQUIRE RESCUE BOAT.. 02/02/2008 11:20:55 PM SES Renmark Response
Correct response - Why? simple this unit has specially modified ladders and litters to get casualities off houseboats. Pity it took 20 minutes :-(
I'm not sure why non rescue teams are sent to these jobs, if was a simple pickup and carry  SAAS wouldn't ask for help would they?
Similiar to the South Coast fatality a couple of weeks ago.
At least this time something may be done as our boss is also a vollie at Paringa, so finally the message may get through heres hoping.
Have a good night & cheers

I was listening to the scanner SAAS wanted the rescue boat....

Edit: Next time I'll read the quote I am a dumb donkey....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 02, 2008, 11:01:15 PM
Yep should have been called 20 minutes earlier, but as I said I'm sure it will be all soughted.
I hope Renmark was all present & correct though with the boss there in his firemans hat :-D.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on February 03, 2008, 10:40:54 AM
Well Chook was listening to scanner SAAS first asked for Paringa to attend as they have assisted done so before,on other occasions  then after awhile it changed to they requested a boat. They where just doing as asked by SAAS.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 03, 2008, 10:46:57 AM
Yep understand all of that - it seems that some re-education is required :wink:
As I have said previously, I'm sure it will be soughted out onne way or another.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on February 03, 2008, 12:02:03 PM
I'm not sure why non rescue teams are sent to these jobs, if was a simple pickup and carry  SAAS wouldn't ask for help would they?

The majority of Assist SAAS jobs i have been called to are just that, "a simple pick-up and carry" usually as the SAAS crew of 2 required another set of hands or 2. Having spoken to a few ambo's about it they generally say they ask for "firies" if they need a help with a lift. Which poses an interesting question, if a service requests a specific resource, eg. Firies, should the Comms guys be second guessing that??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 03, 2008, 12:55:45 PM
from a saas point of view i have always been told that in our area SES would be responding to assist with lifts etc unless we need to have fire there for a reason its ok we have three different kinds of trucks to pick from one red two white with yellow and three white with orange.
   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on February 03, 2008, 01:09:02 PM
Comms can't go on every local arrangement, 9 times out of 10 they want man power or a stokes, which a number of CFS and MFS have. SAAS are used to the fact that most SES take to long, and most towns have a fire service in them. Saw a classic example the other day at Waterfall Gully, took SES well over 25 mins on the bell to get to the scene, when you have a fire appliance with stokes and rope equipment just down the street, and they call another SES for backup, so it makes you wonder doesn't it. The fire service always get accused of playing games, but it seems that isn't the case !

My volly station gets several calls a year for patient lifts, 99% of the time they just want man power, and the other 1% they want a stokes. They want it then and their, they don't want to wait, someone is having a heart attack etc, they want the nearest resource !

But having said that, if SES are nearest and have quick turn outs, then so be it.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 03, 2008, 01:14:47 PM
we work very close with our local SES (talk form SAAS view again)
we also what at least one full crew not one in a red truck and two in a white truck in our SES unit only 5 members live out side the town and out of them only two are to far away to respond for P1 P2 calls with a tun out time of less the 8mins at the same time if not soon after saas (when paged at the same time) 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 03, 2008, 01:16:31 PM
fair call, thanks for that info.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 04, 2008, 10:38:58 AM
well, here we go guys...heres what the NSW Rural fire service get for pager messages:

"04 February 2008 11:17:48 TOMKI BRIGADE PLEASE RESPOND TO MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT AT BRUXNER HWY 2 KM FROM CASINO"
RFS Tomki (Richmond Valley)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on February 04, 2008, 11:14:45 AM
Basically the same as what SHQ used to put using airsource.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 04, 2008, 11:29:21 AM
yeh the good old days :)

SHQ: *CFSRES <BRIGADE NAMES> RESPOND <INCIDENT TYPE>, <INCIDENT LOCATION>, <FUTHER INFO>; <DATE/TIME>;

 :cry:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 04, 2008, 12:34:55 PM
it could be worse have you seen the CFA paging system.........
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 04, 2008, 12:52:35 PM
I have, im happy to say i like there's the most in Australia.

They can input the exact words they hear over the phone from the 000 call..."oh theres a fire on a powerpole, think its a transformer"...

ALERT F080200815 BUNI4 NOSTC3 POWERPOLE FIRE CNR KILDERKIN AV/GEAR AV MOUNT HELEN SVC 6520 G4 (561311) SEBA

ALERT <INCIDENT NO> <UNSURE> <SHORT INCIDENT TYPE> <DEFINED INCIDENT TYPE> <LOCATION INC Grid reference> <BRIGADES>
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 04, 2008, 02:32:35 PM
... and this is a huge change from SACFS paging how?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 04, 2008, 02:36:25 PM
The old way was the best and "if it's not broke don't fix it" doesn't go down well with the CFS/MFS head honchos, give it 2 years they'll change it again, and the GRN will get phased out in 3....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 07, 2008, 08:00:07 AM
01:13:41   07-02-08   RIVN RESPOND FIRE ALARM RIVERTON DSM HOSPITAL, 23 MOORHOUSE TERRACE, RIVERTON *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 07/02/2008 01:12:00 CFS Mount Barker Response

01:14:20   07-02-08   MFS: respond fixed alarm riverton hospital, contact mfs comms 07/02/2008 1:14:09 AM CFS Riverton Response

01:15:09   07-02-08   MFS: stop for riverton hospital. riverton have been responded. 07/02/2008 1:14:57 AM CFS Mount Barker Response

Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 07, 2008, 08:08:58 AM
Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.

strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on February 07, 2008, 08:36:09 AM
Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.

strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"

that "testing" is sometimes very superficial and cursory, I reckon for all the alarms done in my group area about 75% of them had some error/mistake on initial install (fortunately most were quickly noticed by the group/brigade and fixed).

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Comms on February 07, 2008, 08:36:50 AM
Not nice for the poor vollies at Littlehampton and Mt Barker...

Computers do strange things at times. We got the correct pages out as soon as we realised the error.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 07, 2008, 08:54:19 AM
Interesting, since it would have been the Alarm Concentrator incorrectly programmed.

strange indeed, considering they are tested/confirmed before going "online"

that "testing" is sometimes very superficial and cursory, I reckon for all the alarms done in my group area about 75% of them had some error/mistake on initial install (fortunately most were quickly noticed by the group/brigade and fixed).


mmmm.... i thought the install and programming was done, and then tested, with the brigade captain or another member acknowledging that it went to the correct adress, before the alarm went live.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on February 07, 2008, 12:00:35 PM
mmmm.... i thought the install and programming was done, and then tested, with the brigade captain or another member acknowledging that it went to the correct adress, before the alarm went live.

mostly it is, and that's where the errors I mentioned were spotted, while the contractor was still on site so could fix it straight away.  However there was one in our group that was changed over without the group being notified so obviously the plan is not followed all the time.


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on February 07, 2008, 03:57:27 PM
You would hope they were tested before going live wouldn't you, but the one that went in to a nursing home down our way recently wasn't. Consequently the only way we knew it was active was when we got responded to a call there.

Maybe if it had of been tested someone would have picked up that the messages where going to the wrong address. As far as I know it still hasn't been fixed, we still haven't had any test messages from them - and that was over 2 weeks ago now.

Hmmm, great error checking there.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on February 08, 2008, 05:57:26 PM
19:22:18   08-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC056 08/02/08 19:21,RESPOND ALARM 11/060,UNI HOUSE,STUDENT ACCOMMODATION,160 RUNDLE MALL,ADELAIDE MAP 119 E 1 TG182,FIP ADJ TO LIFTS IN FOYER,2ND ALARM. TG155,ADL203 PPT371 AD2090 ADL206 41 BPK451 MFS Car 41
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 08, 2008, 06:02:51 PM
Back to 1st Alarm.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on February 08, 2008, 06:49:58 PM
Another one

1919082   20:06:50   08-02-08   MFS: RESPOND 2ND ALARM B CLASS STRUCTURE ...ADJAC WINSOR HOTEL N/E RD, WINSOR GDNS 08/02/2008 8:06:38 PM MFS FCI 1
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 08, 2008, 08:31:01 PM
1926877   21:14:33   08-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/02/08 21:13,RESPOND Private Alarm,5 ARRAS CT,PARALOWIE MAP 60 N 14 TG182,ALARM OPERATING,SMELL OF SMOKE,SAL321 ELZ332 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1919072   21:31:07   08-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC062 08/02/08 21:30,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,5 ARRAS CT,PARALOWIE MAP 60 N 14 TG182,,31 MFS Car 31
1919082   21:40:50   08-02-08   MFS: Another job at 5 Arras ct Paralowie,map 60,N 14, two bedrooms involved,SO Miller332 08/02/2008 9:40:39 PM MFS FCI 1

It never rains but it pours!!!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on February 09, 2008, 07:00:04 PM
58:52 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 CFS Port Macdonnell Group Officers Response
1909304 19:58:50 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 CFS Blackfellows Caves Response
1928012 19:58:41 09-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC053 09/02/08 19:58,RESPOND RCR,CARPENTER ROCKS ,CARPENTER ROCKS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,,MTG029 BKCV00 SES East Region


Not sure why SAAS where not paged?? Turned out to be a car fire that then started a grass fire all brigade's in port mac group where paged in the end to attend....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on February 09, 2008, 07:11:24 PM
except donovans  :-D

Still uncontained but not going anywhere fast.  Burnt approx 100m by 20m?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on February 09, 2008, 07:23:33 PM
1905686 20:32:43 09-02-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP SW CNR ADMIN BLOCK FFE, GLOBAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED (GSL), BENARA RD, BENARA CFSRES:, ALARM 70/033 MFS Mt Gambier Response

At this rate there should be a fire station based at the Mount Gambier jail manned by inmates just like at Cadell  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on February 09, 2008, 07:27:07 PM
would never work as its normally the prisoners that set the alarm off.  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 09, 2008, 08:23:24 PM
1909800   21:48:33   09-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC058 09/02/08 21:46,RESPOND Smoke in Area,6 SWIGGS ST,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 P 4 TG182,TAKE CARE!!,SAIR55 LGS281 - State Airdesk

What? What was the reason behind appending that to the message?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on February 09, 2008, 08:41:05 PM
should have sent compton....or the new bwc.....just love alarms at prisons NOT...stirling north get paged each night at the moment only to be stopped called a few mins later..Hope they send them an account for false alarms.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 09, 2008, 09:55:10 PM
1909800   21:48:33   09-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC058 09/02/08 21:46,RESPOND Smoke in Area,6 SWIGGS ST,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 P 4 TG182,TAKE CARE!!,SAIR55 LGS281 - State Airdesk

What? What was the reason behind appending that to the message?

Could have been anything from a friendly Comms Op who knows the Largs North crew, to issues they have had at the given address previously...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 11, 2008, 06:36:29 AM
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info


This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on February 11, 2008, 07:35:33 AM
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info


This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?

They have always done it, keeps the troops informed, and I guess if you don't want to know about it, then don't have your pager on, if you didn't go to the call then clearly your not very interested anyway so you may as well turn your pager off.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on February 11, 2008, 07:41:14 AM
Not a bad idea!.. Would save those people who might be leaving work etc, from taking a few extra chances trying to get to a call that had returned 1o minutes prior.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on February 11, 2008, 03:34:23 PM
MFS: GROUP INFO: IF ANY BRIGADES RESPOND TO A CAR FIRE WITH A GREEN VK COMMODORE PLEASE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION - GROUP OFFICERS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR FURTHER INFO 11/02/2008 3:03:20 PM CFS Blyth-Snowtown Info

Didnt take long.

MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/02/08 15:19,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,AUBURN CFS,AUBURN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CAR FIRE AT PREMISES OF JOHN WILLIAMS O,N GRIMWOOD PARK ROAD.,AUBN00 CFS Auburn Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on February 11, 2008, 04:02:51 PM
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED MV24 IN ATTENDANCE-HV34 RETURNED - H/V STATION 11/02/2008 2:16:44 AM CFS Happy Valley Info


This is a genuine question and not taking a dig at happy valley... Why do they page each time that their trucks are returning? Obviously if it is just a stop call, then totally understand that. But often its a "returned to station". Wouldn't tha get frustrating for the members of HV to receive a message each time the trucks return to station? Can someone explain if there is a genuine reason behind this? Or is it just one of those things that some brigades do and others don't?

Particularly if you are in a busy brigade, where perhaps one appliance has responded to a call, and another, unrelated, call comes through, it is good to know if the crew at the first is back in station, or still tied up on something

Members can then make a decision as to whether to race down to the station, ready to take out the other truck or not...   very frustrating to race to the station, only to find the first truck left the station as the pager message came in, and no second truck is required....   :-(

Within my own brigade, we send out a "returned to station page" - for a couple of reasons.

Generally, for any call, the first appliance is gone in around 6 minutes.  If the call is during a weekday, then the next crew are often 30 minutes away (eg have to leave work, and make their way to the station). For some, leaving work early is not an option, but at finish time, they need to decide if they should go straight home, as quickly as they can, ready to assist with the call, or do they wander home, doing their errands on the way.

If the page goes out, to say the crew are back, then the other members know the status of the call.

It also alerts crews to the return of an appliance from a strike team - that is so we know the truck is back, and second, so that anyone else around the place can go the station and assist with cleaning it up / restocking / restowing.

Our "Appliance returned to station" message works well for us

Pip

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 11, 2008, 04:08:03 PM
MFS: GROUP INFO: IF ANY BRIGADES RESPOND TO A CAR FIRE WITH A GREEN VK COMMODORE PLEASE CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE BEFORE TAKING ANY ACTION - GROUP OFFICERS CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR FURTHER INFO 11/02/2008 3:03:20 PM CFS Blyth-Snowtown Info

Didnt take long.

MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/02/08 15:19,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,AUBURN CFS,AUBURN MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CAR FIRE AT PREMISES OF JOHN WILLIAMS O,N GRIMWOOD PARK ROAD.,AUBN00 CFS Auburn Response

They didn't page the Gilbert Group with that warning, but i'm sure adelaide fire would have notified them as soon as they called on air....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 11, 2008, 05:01:01 PM
was it related though the page for any car fires attended that was sent to some groups is in relation to a shooting at paskeville today the car was seen leaving in a hurry. thats why some groups were paged.

if they were dumping it in burning it why would they do it there id say they would do it some where out of the way.
   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 11, 2008, 05:05:24 PM
Yeah that is bizarre, obviously they had a RV there....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on February 11, 2008, 05:20:15 PM
According to ten news the car fire at Auburn was the offending Commodore. See the news for more details.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 11, 2008, 05:27:58 PM
Yep thats what they said alright. And it certainlt looked like a green VK from the chopper shots. Apparently a bikie thing - oh well.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 11, 2008, 05:29:22 PM
ok cool well least they found the car hope they find the owners now
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 11, 2008, 05:37:05 PM
not yet - but hopefully soon.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 11, 2008, 07:13:52 PM
thanks for the info pip,
like i said i wasnt taking the piss, i was just honestly interested
being members of smaller brigades, i generally havent had that issue.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on February 11, 2008, 08:31:01 PM
Story is running about the shooting on ninemsn.com - News section. - At the moment.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on February 12, 2008, 09:15:05 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 12/02/08 10:23,RESPOND Assist Police,ARNO BAY CFS,ARNO BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG009,10 KMS SOUTH OF ARNO BAY -2 PERSONS ONLY,FOR FIRE COVER,ARNO00


Is this not against our SOP I thought you had to have min 4 even if its only Fire cover?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on February 12, 2008, 09:37:51 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 12/02/08 10:23,RESPOND Assist Police,ARNO BAY CFS,ARNO BAY MAP 0 0 0 TG009,10 KMS SOUTH OF ARNO BAY -2 PERSONS ONLY,FOR FIRE COVER,ARNO00


Is this not against our SOP I thought you had to have min 4 even if its only Fire cover?

Yes it is Operational Management Guidelines Section 46 Minimum of 4 personnel :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on February 12, 2008, 09:40:24 AM
so how do you argue that point when a QAV only has a crew of two??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on February 12, 2008, 09:56:26 AM
so how do you argue that point when a QAV only has a crew of two??

Initial response must be minimum 2.2 appliance and a crew of 4, a QAV can respond after the first initial response has been met, or if a brigade with 2 x 14's or QAV also meets the response criteria :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on February 12, 2008, 11:38:23 AM
Is this not against our SOP I thought you had to have min 4 even if its only Fire cover?

not an SOP but a guideline, you can respond with less with permission.
Also you are reading too much into a pager message that presumably wasn't sent to you (as is common on this forum), eg. perhaps Arno Bay already had 2 members at the station and asked MFS to just request 2 more people.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 12, 2008, 11:57:52 AM

not an SOP but a guideline, you can respond with less with permission.



since when?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 12, 2008, 12:07:57 PM
it used to be three but then it was made four crew and its a must not a guideline i was in a brigade that would send 2 crew to a going fire on a 34 and its hard work to run a job with a driver and one on the back.  and to be correct you should have 5 crew 4 on the truck and 1 at station other wise lock the shed and go through Adelaide fire until you get some one on the radio at your station or your group base can open   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on February 12, 2008, 03:03:11 PM
their having fun in vic..........twice in week?! :-o

taken from the online advertiser:

Quote
An explosion and fire has caused the evacuation of a busy shopping centre in Sydney's inner west and sent flames high into the air.

The NSW Fire Brigade was called to the Broadway Shopping Centre in Ultimo just after 1:45pm after a high voltage sub-station exploded.

The shopping centre has been evacuated and no injuries have been reported, although at least one person was reportedly stuck in a lift after power to the building failed.

At least eleven fire engines were called to the blaze. The size of the fire is not yet known.

A large crowd has gathered outside the shopping centre which has been barricaded off by police.

Have you seen the fire? Post your comments below.

Eyewitnesses reported flames and smoke shooting from a low air vent at the centre, and smoke billowing from a car park, although the fire appeared to be contained by about 3pm.

A staff member working in one of the shops above the blast told The Daily Telegraph Online flames reached high into the air and smelled of burning plastic.

Mobile phone coverage was also said to be down in the wake of the explosion.

The blast is the second to strike the area in as many weeks, following a separate explosion in a nearby apartment building last week.

A Nando's takeaway chicken shop on Mountain Street was gutted by that explosion, which also forced the evacuation of 1000 people in the early hours of February 4. 

The cause is still being investigated but Nando's has blamed a problem with the gas main.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 12, 2008, 03:07:25 PM
that first explosion that happened in the Wales seemed very similar to the Pirie Street incident that occured in our CBD sometime back...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 12, 2008, 03:37:28 PM
Morgan read the story since when has Sydney's inner west been in vic 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on February 12, 2008, 04:29:02 PM
havn't you heard victoria run's australia :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 12, 2008, 05:03:48 PM
Nice bunch of highly strung people here. So what if Arno Bay only need 2 x more people at the station to crew a truck? They may have special local arrangements about the numbers of crew...

Christ you people blow up deluxe about issues that you see a snippet of.

Half the problem with the CFS is the fact there there are far too many people who follow the book to the letter rather than adapting the 'rules' to the situation. There are so many variables when it comes to firefighting. Can't we just be happy when a job is done professional and to the best of our abilities?

...or do we have to nitpick the living hell out of everything?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 12, 2008, 05:36:14 PM
Victoria wishes they did
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on February 12, 2008, 07:37:26 PM
well said numbers....


now we might cut and paste that rant into every other topic on this forum where people have a go at Adelaide Fire/SAAS comms/SAPOL Comms or SAAS crews/MFS Crews/SAPOL crews whenever things don't go to as they "think" they should have!


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 12, 2008, 09:31:57 PM
yeah nice idea broadmatrix not that you havent had your share of rants on here i guess this is a place for people to let of steam about issues no matter how minor i reckon just about every body on this forum has had a spit about someone/something, or servic.

so if you dont want people to have there say close the forum we all know everything has its reasons each station for each service has had to get things set up to suit the way they work at the moment working for the CFS/SES/SAAS isn't always good as we all know and even though we are not paid it still gets stressful MFS are paid im sure they get stressed when things dont work same with SAPOL and Career SAAS let people blow of steam if they dont blow it off they will quit and soetimes its better to write it down show people you dont know that well and walk away.

 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on February 12, 2008, 09:56:12 PM
The value of people having a rant/spit is two fold ,it lets the person vent and god knows we all need to do that sometimes, but it also opens up our own perfect little worlds to criticism, you certainly don't have to agree with it! but it might just make you reflect on the way you do business and possibly find a better way .

Cheers Jaff
Better make that three ways, it is fun to have rant/spit sometimes, you got that you bunch of stupid,filtered, filtered, filtered , filtered tossers :-D :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 13, 2008, 03:20:31 AM
There is nothing wrong with venting if something happens to you, but getting your knickers in a knot because you think that some brigade halfway across the state didn't do something right, or exactly by the book is just silly. Then there is the rampant commcen bashing which achieves nothing...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 13, 2008, 06:03:57 AM
Thanks Jaff - now I know how to correctly describe myself  :-D :-D
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on February 13, 2008, 06:59:01 AM
 :-D I'll go with the filtered bit but you can keep the tossing to yourself!
I prefer to think of myself and cool calm and collected under strain and the rest of you filters can go and filter yourself :-D :-D :wink:

Actually venting is good for the system, everyone needs someone to be able to do this with and I guess I am lucky as I have someone I can have a grumble with after a job or about an issue and it gets it out of the system. This should be a safe place to have a whinge without getting jumped on.
BUT.. you do always need to remember that just going on what is on the page does not reflect what is actually going on on the ground. I know I have paged for 2 crew members to go to an incident and what you would not have seen was the 3 crew had who were extra from the first truck that left and were available to go on another truck.
It is okay to ask it as a question but not to damn it without having all the information
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on February 13, 2008, 09:30:42 AM
boom tish....

and the tide comes in again!

yes - I've had rants - I don't deny it!  But when topics are based around what one organisation did or didn't do "because that's how I think it should happen...."

...it gets a little tiresome after a while!

and numbers hit the nail on the head again!  smart bloke that one!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 13, 2008, 12:33:11 PM
Hypocritical bunch aren't we?
Taking the piss out of comms for not spelling so well,

I kwouldn't be able to count the number of spelling mistakes i haave made on this forum, and I am not getting a crew dispatched to an emergency so not rushing and have plenty of time to think about it...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 01:08:46 PM
CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 581 & 584 RESPOND GRASSFIRE COMAUM, 13 DEGREES, 58 KMS FROM GAMBIER AB. INC NO 818860 - DESCRIBED AS HALFWAY BETWEEN PENOLA & NARACOORTE > 13/02/2008 14:11:40

Anyone know anything?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 13, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
Wattle Range, Naracoorte Group and Several CFA brigades involved with a Plantation fire.

14:51:22   13-02-08   CFS: AIR OPS INFO: BOMBERS 581 & 584 CURRENTLY SUSTAINED BOMBING AT COMAUM, SPOTTER 505 ALSO RESPONDED. FIRE IN EDGE OF PINE PLANTATION - SARC STONE > 13/02/2008 14:51:11 CFS R5 Air Observer

@@ALERT F080202977 CAT4 G&SC1 GRASS & SCRUB FIRE OLD COMAUM RD COMAUM (SA) SVSW 384 D2 (967768) LKOP [LKOP]
R17 - Langkoop
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 01:38:17 PM
Cheers how did you get the CFA pages?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 13, 2008, 01:40:40 PM
check your PM's.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 13, 2008, 01:54:59 PM
excellent...
we needed a new page to get this thread moving again
lol
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 02:32:41 PM
I think the fire season just woke up....

MFS: *CFSRES INC045 13/02/08 15:44,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LOBETHAL CFS,LOBETHAL MAP 0 0 0 TG140,WILLOW BANK RD,CHARLSTON,SAIR55 LOBE19 WDSD00 MTOR00

CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580 & 582 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, CHARLESTON, 15 DEGREES, 4 KMS FROM WOODSIDE AB. INC NO 818867. < 13/02/2008 3:49:16 PM
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 13, 2008, 02:38:14 PM
no action taken...nah it hasnt...but it is slowly warming up!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on February 13, 2008, 02:41:33 PM
Its like winter down south at the moment...Will have to crank the heater soon if it continues to get colder.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 02:42:05 PM
Yeah I noticed....spoke too soon oh well I guess it's a good thing that its been nice and quiet! :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 13, 2008, 05:41:15 PM
I think the fire season just woke up....


Or as Colin Thiele so eloquently put it... "The February Dragon is awaking from it's sleep and it is looking for fuel to feed its hunger"

(ok i sorta ad libbed but ya get the point... lol

You gotta make the move up here COMP000 lovely 26 degree days now...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 06:03:12 PM
Good old Colin Thiele....36 saturday and sunday up north..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on February 13, 2008, 06:06:20 PM
filtered freeezing down here and very windy just waiting for the snow to fall...Naracoorte group sent two appliances to the fire and a CFA strike team came over the border as it was not the far from the border..Did not go as we are house moving....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on February 13, 2008, 08:11:20 PM
I think we had ten CFS trucks several from across the border and forestry etc
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on February 13, 2008, 08:12:51 PM
Good old Colin Thiele....36 saturday and sunday up north..

That dont sound too good cause Ash Wednesday 2 memorial service is being held on Saturday :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 13, 2008, 09:19:59 PM
Errr I didn't think about that.....So long as the wind stays down..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 13, 2008, 09:21:55 PM
And the people in the Hills have all but forgotten about it too...
Can We start a thread on how we are going to get those people to actually clean up their properties??
I have friends who live near Scotch College and that fire that went through last month got really close to their house and they had no idea how bad it could have been, they didn't even realise how serious it was when leaves that were smouldering were landing on their tennis court...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 13, 2008, 09:23:59 PM
I'll change my statement, a lot of people certainly wouldnt have forgotten (certainly wasnt meant to sound like tha), some people who were barely alive, might not understand the implications, I have friends near Hahndorf who lost everything, and they are serious about their fire protection, as are a lot of others who lost things in that fire

but the message does need to get to those who don't really remember it
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on February 14, 2008, 11:41:01 AM
Heard on scanner.

CAT2 1125 South Road, St Mary's fire station

"Works accident, patient injured using angle grinder"

I wonder if it was a FF doing an odd job? Oh the paper work!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 14, 2008, 11:51:28 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC028 14/02/08 13:07,RESPOND To,SOUTH RD,ST MARYS MAP 141 N 11 TG182,ASSIST INJURED
PERSON AT ST MARYS FIRE S,TATION,41
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 15, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC044 15/02/08 16:26,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KAPUNDA CFS,KAPUNDA DISTRICT MAP 0 0 0 TG100,SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.AT THE FORD,ANGELBY RD.NIL INJURIES.FROM KAPUNDA,CAPTAIN,KAPD00 CFS Kapunda Response

saas responded my radio no rescue responded.

17:51:13   15-02-08   RI81 Cat2 Main North Rd, Tarlee MULTIPLE HAZARDS SAAS Riverton

no fire no rescue car v truck
only 25mins ago
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 15, 2008, 04:47:24 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC044 15/02/08 16:26,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,KAPUNDA CFS,KAPUNDA DISTRICT MAP 0 0 0 TG100,SINGLE VEHICLE ROLLOVER.AT THE FORD,ANGELBY RD.NIL INJURIES.FROM KAPUNDA,CAPTAIN,KAPD00 CFS Kapunda Response

saas responded my radio no rescue responded.


call from Kapunda captain on scene, so no need to send rescue...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on February 15, 2008, 04:50:26 PM
Heard on scanner.

CAT2 1125 South Road, St Mary's fire station

"Works accident, patient injured using angle grinder"

I wonder if it was a FF doing an odd job? Oh the paper work!


I went past on way to town it was a private contractor working on the side of the station leanto.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 15, 2008, 04:57:20 PM
17:51:13   15-02-08   RI81 Cat2 Main North Rd, Tarlee MULTIPLE HAZARDS SAAS Riverton

case canceled as they arrived no idea what was going on there and at almost 35mins after the job was handed out. 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on February 16, 2008, 11:22:37 AM
11:56:46 16-02-08 BURNSIDE 24 DIFF HAS BEEN REPAIRED -UNFORTUNATELY GEARBOX IS TO BE OVERHAULED WHICH WILL BE STARTED NEXT WEEK -CRAIG CFS Burnside Info

Still reckon they should have given them a new one...oh well the ex Sellicks 34 will have to do for now :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 16, 2008, 11:52:52 AM
so much time and effort...yes SAfirey, do agree with you.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on February 16, 2008, 12:45:30 PM
Quote
Still reckon they should have given them a new one...oh well the ex Sellicks 34 will have to do for now

but cum on the CFS can't go and fix everything............then certain ppls in here would nothing left to whinge about...........wouldn't know what to do with themselves :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 16, 2008, 07:02:20 PM
Quote
STLN RESPOND FIRE ALARM PORT AUGUSTA PRISON, HIGHWAY ONE, STIRLING NORTH *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 16/02/2008 20:22:14 CFS Stirling North Response

KNGC, RESPOND FIRE ALARM OZONE, SEAFRONT APARTMENTS, 1-1 COMMERCIAL ST.,, KINGSCOTE *CFSRES:, FIP IN FOYER *WFAM*, 16/02/2008 20:25:47 CFS Kingscote Response

hmm i think its not the Fire Alarm systems in the premises that are faulty so many times im seeing these alarms goin off at the same time...maybe its a Central concentrator failure?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 16, 2008, 09:52:47 PM
Quote
22:21:28   16-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:20,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CARPARK BEHIND COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WHITE F,ORD S/WAGON. FROM SAPOL,EUDN19 CFS Eudunda Response

   22:44:46   16-02-08   EUDN: *CFSRES: MANUAL TURNOUT RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION 16-02-08 22:44 CFS Eudunda Response

   22:45:24   16-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:44,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,BA CREWS REQUIRED FOR STRUCTURE FIRE IN,EUDUNDA, CONTACT GIBERT DGO1 097,RHYN42 TOTH00 RBTN00 SDDL00 CFS Tothill Response

23:08:20   16-02-08   RESPOND TO GRASS FIRE EUDUNDA. ASSIST EUDUNDA. CFS Neales Flat Response


Geez,  shows how things can change in a short time..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on February 16, 2008, 11:23:48 PM
11:56:46 16-02-08 BURNSIDE 24 DIFF HAS BEEN REPAIRED -UNFORTUNATELY GEARBOX IS TO BE OVERHAULED WHICH WILL BE STARTED NEXT WEEK -CRAIG CFS Burnside Info

Still reckon they should have given them a new one...oh well the ex Sellicks 34 will have to do for now :-)

Does that mean that Blackwood no longer have Sellicks 34 at their station ?

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on February 17, 2008, 08:17:17 AM
1925592 03:51:15 17-02-08 C181 HI, HE IS CLAIMING SAPOL ASSAULTED HIM...... SAAS Campbelltown

 :-oh boy that doesnt sound good  :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 17, 2008, 10:51:28 AM
"Comply! Stop resisting! Stop hitting yourself!"
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boss on February 17, 2008, 11:06:32 AM
Quote
22:21:28   16-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:20,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,CARPARK BEHIND COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WHITE F,ORD S/WAGON. FROM SAPOL,EUDN19 CFS Eudunda Response

   22:44:46   16-02-08   EUDN: *CFSRES: MANUAL TURNOUT RESPOND EUDUNDA STATION 16-02-08 22:44 CFS Eudunda Response

   22:45:24   16-02-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC089 16/02/08 22:44,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,EUDUNDA CFS,EUDUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG097,BA CREWS REQUIRED FOR STRUCTURE FIRE IN,EUDUNDA, CONTACT GIBERT DGO1 097,RHYN42 TOTH00 RBTN00 SDDL00 CFS Tothill Response

23:08:20   16-02-08   RESPOND TO GRASS FIRE EUDUNDA. ASSIST EUDUNDA. CFS Neales Flat Response


Geez,  shows how things can change in a short time..



the car fire and grass fire was one incident and the buliding fire was another one  Gilbert base was running the buliding fire while eudunda was dealing with the grass and car fire
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 17, 2008, 11:40:04 AM
there was six fires in total at eudunda last night 4 grass 1 car and a house. the house was started first then the car fire then the grass fires.

i was there with SAAS eudunda was dealing with the 6 fires when i got there and saddleworth got there about 5mins after us the house was abandoned and was a broken down car we got to leave at 130hrs and rudunda and saddleworth were still there waiting for fire cause to rock up
 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 17, 2008, 11:46:52 AM
there was six fires in total at eudunda last night 4 grass 1 car and a house. the house was started first then the car fire then the grass fires.

i was there with SAAS eudunda was dealing with the 6 fires when i got there and saddleworth got there about 5mins after us the house was abandoned and was a broken down car we got to leave at 130hrs and eudunda and saddleworth were still there waiting for fire cause to rock up
 

Arson? I hope not....Though it is good to see Neales Flat get a turn poor fellas are on the chopping block...!!!!

P.S: Lucky it happened at night coz the wind is real gusty!!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: sesroadcrashrescue on February 17, 2008, 11:53:36 AM
there was wind around but i didnt see Neales Flat there i saw

saddleworth 34, rynie tanker, eudunda 24p, eudunda 34, tothill 24 robertstown 24, ididnt see  Neales Flat there but they may have been on the other side of the hill with the grass fires and left once the grass fires were out.   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 17, 2008, 11:57:19 AM
there was wind around but i didnt see Neales Flat there i saw

saddleworth 34, rynie tanker, eudunda 24p, eudunda 34, tothill 24 robertstown 24, ididnt see  Neales Flat there but they may have been on the other side of the hill with the grass fires and left once the grass fires were out.   

More than likely because they aren't a B.A brigade...they might well not of turned out..... :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 17, 2008, 01:07:03 PM
Why the chopping block?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 17, 2008, 01:30:09 PM
Why the chopping block?

Cant get crews and they don't get many calls...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 17, 2008, 02:09:10 PM
oh fair enough - I guess
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on February 17, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
More than likely because they aren't a B.A brigade...they might well not of turned out..... :|
[/quote]

Didnt seem to matter at the Primo Port Wakefield fire..Where a lot of non BA brigades were responded. Obviously they were needed for support though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 17, 2008, 03:01:10 PM
Quote
More than likely because they aren't a B.A brigade...they might well not of turned out..... :|

Didnt seem to matter at the Primo Port Wakefield fire..
What do you mean by that? :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on February 17, 2008, 09:08:16 PM

Does that mean that Blackwood no longer have Sellicks 34 at their station ?


Affirmative, it went to Burnside.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 17, 2008, 09:21:31 PM
what does 'WFAM' stand for on the alarm messages?
And how do the alarms work?
As soon as it goes off does it go to the pager? Or is a dispatch notified which then in turn notifies brigades?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on February 18, 2008, 08:12:33 AM
what does 'WFAM' stand for on the alarm messages?
And how do the alarms work?
As soon as it goes off does it go to the pager? Or is a dispatch notified which then in turn notifies brigades?

It stands for (i think) wireless fixed automated modem??

I believe when the alarm goes of it goes up to town and the computer registers the alarm and automatically sends out the preset response, whether it be a WFAM alarm or sprinkler alarm. I think it takes about 45 seconds after the alarm goes off to the pagers dropping.
I could be completely wrong on this though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Mike on February 18, 2008, 09:08:51 AM
Close....

Wireless Fixed Alarm Monitoring

Some more info can be found here (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php/topic,432.msg6468.html#msg6468)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on February 18, 2008, 12:40:09 PM
This would have been an interesting one for us city workers if bombers did actually respond to these:

14:03:59 18-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 18/02/08 14:03,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,VICTORIA SQ,ADELAIDE MAP B B 15 TG182,,SAIR55 ADL201 CFS State Air Desk

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 18, 2008, 12:48:07 PM
lol  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on February 18, 2008, 02:00:36 PM
This would have been an interesting one for us city workers if bombers did actually respond to these:

14:03:59 18-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 18/02/08 14:03,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,VICTORIA SQ,ADELAIDE MAP B B 15 TG182,,SAIR55 ADL201 CFS State Air Desk



make fore some interesting photos.  I reckon a bomber would look good with the SANTOS (Think the name has changed but buggered if i can keep up) building in the background.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 18, 2008, 02:41:00 PM
Westpac House ;)  Santo's name was very attached to it...its like saying the MFS Headquarters is Bank SA  :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 18, 2008, 04:18:59 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC071 18/02/08 17:34,RESPOND Smoke in Area,DONOVANS CFS,DONOVANS MAP 0 0 0 TG228,HONEYSUCKLE RD,PENAMBOL CONSERVATION PARK,SAIR55 DONV00 CFS State Air Desk

Did Smoke in Area replace smoke sighting or is there a different one for say a plume of smoke? Because when I read smoke in area I think its just a haze....?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 18, 2008, 04:23:47 PM
yeh i have to agree with you...they are too generic.

How about   SMOKE SIGHTING (visible smoke) / UNKNOWN FIRE (unknown cause) / G&S FIRE (visible fire)

(G&S=Grass/Scrub obviously :P)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 18, 2008, 04:35:53 PM
Yeah exactly!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 18, 2008, 05:13:06 PM
Ah... hasn't it always been Smoke In area for either people seeing a little bit of smoke, or smelling something burning?

I've always been turned out to "Smoke in Area".

And Zippy, doesn't "Smoke sighting" and "Smoke (visible) in area" essentially mean the same thing?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 18, 2008, 06:46:11 PM
It hasn't always been that...smoke sighting was the old one i.e BOMS it was more specific....thats my opinion....my interpretation of smoke in area would be like an area is dutched out where as a smoke sighting is a visible plume.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 18, 2008, 07:03:05 PM
Hmmm, perhaps they are two separate issues. Since the introduction of the Alphanumeric pagers, I've always received "Smoke in area" from SAMFS. Can't ever remember getting smoke sightings, maybe SOCC did.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 18, 2008, 07:12:55 PM
hmmm, dunno whether we need to lob the poor comms ppl with more nitty gritty things to worry about...

the impersonality of the messages sorta leads to people assuming things anyway, its like when you get a text from someone and it actually means something totally different to what they wanted it to, but its just how you understood it
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 18, 2008, 07:16:39 PM
So what would you sugget?

"MFS: Footy, please can you head to the station as there may be a fire in a vehicle at [location]"

:D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 18, 2008, 07:20:21 PM
hehe, a phone call maybe??
haha, how funny would that be, can just imagine a comms going
oh, um hi numbers, yeah look, we've got a car vs tree, any chance you would be able to respond, i mean if your not too busy, is that ok?

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 18, 2008, 07:23:31 PM
So what would you sugget?

"MFS: Footy, please can you head to the station as there may be a fire in a vehicle at [location]"

:D

Well just picture it this way Smoke in area no visible origin then smoke sighting and a visible origin. You know what I mean as though smoke in area would mean you driving around trying to find a source where as smoke sighting could be more specific......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 18, 2008, 07:30:02 PM
PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP SW CNR ADMIN BLOCK FFE, GLOBAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED (GSL), BENARA RD, BENARA CFSRES:, ALARM 70/033 CFS Moorak Response

If the Jail and Bunnings keep going off Gambier group could be in line for funding for about another 30 trucks this next year!!!

hahaha
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on February 18, 2008, 08:48:48 PM
Ok Footy....Time to put the juice box back the fridge!  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on February 18, 2008, 08:50:35 PM
PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP SW CNR ADMIN BLOCK FFE, GLOBAL SOLUTIONS LIMITED (GSL), BENARA RD, BENARA CFSRES:, ALARM 70/033 CFS Moorak Response

If the Jail and Bunnings keep going off Gambier group could be in line for funding for about another 30 trucks this next year!!!

hahaha

Yeah as well as Stirling North and Murray Bridge :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on February 18, 2008, 09:02:53 PM
1908852 22:01:05 18-02-08 MFS: BE ADVISED, TELSTRA IS EXPERIENCING WIDESPREAD MOBILE NETWORK INTERUPTIONS FOR UNKNOWN DURATION 18/02/2008 10:00:54 PM CFS HQ Info

Yet again another flaw in the telstra Next G mobile network  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 18, 2008, 09:10:37 PM
Quote
And Zippy, doesn't "Smoke sighting" and "Smoke (visible) in area" essentially mean the same thing?

I would think Smoke sighting means its seen visible from a location into the distance...while Smoke in Area would actually be in the very near vacinity of the caller.

SOCC could write what ever incident type they wanted...there were no presets..There was even "Tractor Rollover"...in MFS terms thats a MVA...typically MVA's are found on the road, but this rollover occured on a farm...so it could be a "Rescue General"  ;)

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 18, 2008, 09:20:28 PM
My god, when will people learn to stop interrogating their pagers? It says there is an incident of X type (RESCUE, STRUCTURE FIRE, RURAL FIRE, HAZMAT, GENERAL ASSISTANCE) at a LOCATION.

How is that not enough information? You have a general idea of the incident, it allows you to select which truck you take, then you drive to the LOCATION see what the incident ACTUALLY is then deal with it. SIMPLE.

Smoke in area/smoke sighting at given location, still means that you drive to an area and look for the smoke, then extinguish the cause...

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on February 19, 2008, 05:51:09 AM
I'm with you - I would only have the problem with it just sending you to an area without telling you what it is you need to be looking for or doing. Smoke in area ?? Gee, lets take a fire truck and see if we can find any fire that is generating that smoke, I'm guessing it means someone is smelling smoke or seeing a haze of smoke in the area without actually seeing flames or the source of it. Then again maybe you could issue a press release asking people to not ring up unless they actually see smoke, would that be better :? :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 19, 2008, 06:08:33 AM

Did Smoke in Area replace smoke sighting or is there a different one for say a plume of smoke? Because when I read smoke in area I think its just a haze....?

im almost 100% sure it has always been "smoke in area" in BOMS...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 19, 2008, 07:42:27 AM
Close....

Wireless Fixed Alarm Monitoring

Some more info can be found here (http://www.safirefighter.com/boards/index.php/topic,432.msg6468.html#msg6468)

actually;

Wireless Fire Alarm Monitor[ing]
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 19, 2008, 08:22:01 AM
The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 19, 2008, 08:37:00 AM
Quote
The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??

ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on February 19, 2008, 08:45:17 AM
The whole idea of the pager is to get you to the station
The whole idea of radios in the truck is so you can find out more information?
Easy??

An alternative is to pickup the telephone in the station or brigade mobile telephone to gain more information, rather than use a GRN talkgroup. Can be quicker to discuss & clarify than 'waiting for over & out'.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 19, 2008, 08:52:55 AM
ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".

So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.

Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?

I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 19, 2008, 09:13:39 AM
I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.

NO NUMBERS!!!!!!!!


BOMs should have thousands of codes, one for every single possible incident that may occur.....
i can see it now, "respond grey smoke plume" "respond hazy smoke in area" "respond white puffy bits"

sarcasm very much intended.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on February 19, 2008, 10:28:37 AM
ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".

So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.

Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?

I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.

But for a RCR more information can be available than will fit on a single pager message. Even for the 'tree down' jobs we can also have extra information. For example, street access information, contact details, risks (powerlines), etc.

Some taskings no further information is available...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on February 19, 2008, 10:53:49 AM
But for a RCR more information can be available than will fit on a single pager message. Even for the 'tree down' jobs we can also have extra information. For example, street access information, contact details, risks (powerlines), etc.

Some taskings no further information is available...

Of course that can be the case. I was just suggesting to Zippy that its quite possible for there to be no more information than is on the page. RCR are a little different, I always make a point of asking if Comms can confirm persons trapped at the very least.

Mack, I'd be a fan of "Dark grey smoke issuing from the combustion of the contents of a room in a domestic dwelling." :D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on February 19, 2008, 11:11:21 AM
ah but it is funny asking them for more info, and they reply "refer to your pager for all information for this incident".

So if a person rings up and says "I can see some smoke at the end of my street, and I can smell burning" you get turned out to "Smoke in area XXXX street" Commcen may not have anymore information. Sometimes the cause of smoke is not obvious at all, so "Smoke in area" is a rather acceptable reason to be paged.

Perhaps the confusion has come from "Smoke in area" being the BOMS response type, yet SOCC putting "Smoke sighting" in certain pages to certain brigades?

I still don't understand why people are having so much trouble grasping the fact that Smoke in area and Smoke sighting are the same thing. They both mean someone has seen some smoke as is unsure of its origin. Its not rocket science. If someone can see what is burning then isn't it paged as "Grass fire/Domestic fire" etc etc? YES.

Yeah mabye the smoke in area page was always a part of BOMS, I was mistaken (thought BOMS was SOC) tho SOC did page smoke sighting.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mack on February 19, 2008, 11:49:28 AM
Yeah mabye the smoke in area page was always a part of BOMS, I was mistaken (thought BOMS was SOC) tho SOC did page smoke sighting.

no problems mate, the old pages from SOCC were typed in airsource. Therefore they were able to put whatever they felt like into the message. Where as BOMs uses pre-determined incident types, which leads to the famoous "Respond TO" for when they dont quite suit.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on February 19, 2008, 01:04:39 PM
...There was even "Tractor Rollover"...in MFS terms thats a MVA...typically MVA's are found on the road, but this rollover occured on a farm...so it could be a "Rescue General"  ;)

MVA = Motor Vehicle Accident.  A tractor is a motor vehicle, an unintentional rollover is an accident.
At no point does MVA = a road job, just as tractor rollover wouldn't mean a farm job, because it could also be on the road...

Incident type is general, the specifics come in the extra information.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on February 19, 2008, 01:32:11 PM
A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on February 19, 2008, 02:39:41 PM
A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident  :-)

What if it didn't happen on a farm?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on February 19, 2008, 02:53:18 PM
A tractor rollover should be classed as a farm accident  :-)

What if it didn't happen on a farm?


What if the tractor was being transported on the road,on the back of a truck and rolled off the truck ,killing a man that was wearing a "i luv tractors" t shirt?
Would he be a extractorfan ,haha I crack me up :-D oh well he probably sucked anyway.

Cheers Jaff
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on February 19, 2008, 03:36:07 PM
I'm with you Jaff!!!!! :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Trav on February 19, 2008, 04:57:06 PM
I did a search and answered my first Q, what SAIR55 means...
but what does TG182 mean?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 19, 2008, 05:13:52 PM
TG = Talk Group

it tells the brigades which channels to communicate on.

so TG182 means Talk Group 182
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jimmy_91 on February 19, 2008, 06:37:45 PM
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1919371 18:55:18 19-02-08 MFS: CFSRES: PINNAROO RESPOND MVA, TRUCK TRAILER ROLLOVER, LOXTON RD, APPROX 15 KM FROM PINNAROO, SHEEP ON ROAD 19/02/2008 6:55:08 PM CFS Pinnaroo Response

 :? :? :?   How come it was like this???

30 seconds down the track, it comes like this

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1919371 18:55:46 19-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC088 19/02/08 18:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,LOXTON ,LOXTON MAP 0 0 0 TG193,12K NORTH OF PINAROO DRIVER OUT - SHEEP,ON RD.,PINN19 CFS Pinnaroo Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 19, 2008, 07:15:13 PM
The first page looks incomplete, doesnt have incident number, doesnt have talk group and doesnt have name of appliance responding?

comms may have done first one, then had to edit cos not complete,
or 1 may have come from adelaide fire and the other from group??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 19, 2008, 07:33:02 PM
That would have been two different Comm's operators not knowing what eachother was doing.

and my bet is the AIRSOURCE page was done by a Ex CFS OCO ;)...somewhere in our audience ;)

Remember...URGMSG activates our fire sirens, and it seems only a few operators know that ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on February 19, 2008, 07:48:44 PM
yeah i didnt know that about urgmsg, so your saying it sets of the fire siren at the station? thats cool... lol

What is airsource?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on February 19, 2008, 08:06:20 PM
Paging software for computers Footy, We don't use it any more as the company does not exist anymore.
We now use Netpro - its good.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on February 21, 2008, 10:00:25 PM
17:29:43 21-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 21/02/08 17:29,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PARA RD,EVANSTON MAP 33 G 3 TG182,AMBULANCE ON FIRE,GAW359 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

Not another Sprinter :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on February 22, 2008, 10:13:47 AM
05:53:45 22-02-08 Millicent SES:Respond to Mount Gambier for tasking. for details contact MTG HQ - Fron <name> SES Wattle Range Response

I know a Gale Warning was issued at 11:25am by the Bureau for that area, but cannot see much else on the pager.

I am guessing that the tasking (or multiple taskings) are being handled all within Mt Gambier via GRN rather than pager.

I hope everything is OK.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on February 22, 2008, 02:34:58 PM
Would have been to assist with the MVA clean up from 0020 that morning. Maybe relief crews, was a messy job apparently.

MFS: *CFSRES INC001 22/02/08 00:17,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PENOLA RD,MT GAMBIER DISTRICT MAP 000 0 0 TG226,5KMS PAST AIRPORT TOWARDS TARPEENA,TRUCK OF ROAD NO ENTRAPMENT,WNDL00 MTG029
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on February 22, 2008, 03:06:30 PM
10:17:39 22-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC020 22/02/08 10:16,RESPOND To,STURT HWY,BARMERA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,APPROX 30M SPILL OF ANIMAL EFFLUENT CAUS,ING HAZARD OPP KINGSTON ESTATE WINERY,MORK00 CFS Moorook Response



Yuck lucky them  :lol: :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: F.B.R.T on February 22, 2008, 09:22:53 PM
First appliance arrives on scene with the arrival message of 'oooh s.h.i.t.t!!!!" :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on February 29, 2008, 07:39:19 AM
09:03:49 29-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 29/02/08 09:02,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,60 WAYMOUTH ST,ADELAIDE MAP A A 11 TG182,MEET CATHERINE FROM SAFECOM AT FRONT DOOR, SMOKE IN BLDG, COMP FIRE NOW OUT. TG155,ADL205 41 ADL201 ADL203 ADL204 MFS Car 41
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on February 29, 2008, 05:08:39 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC064 29/02/08 16:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAROSSA VALLEY HWY,LYNDOCH MAP 0 0 0 TG096,1 KM FROM ROSEDALE TURN OFF TO LYNDOCH,TANT00 LYND00 CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Response
1909376 16:29:50 29-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC064 29/02/08 16:29,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BAROSSA VALLEY HWY,LYNDOCH MAP 0 0 0 TG096,1 KM FROM ROSEDALE TURN OFF TO LYNDOCH,TANT00 LYND00 CFS Tantanoola Response


No offence to you lot in the Barossa but it is a little bit too far to travel for our crew :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on February 29, 2008, 07:58:38 PM
1908911 16:03:56  29-02-08 BARKER RESCUE NOW BACK IN STATION - AWAITING TO BE RESTOWED WITH EQUIPMENT CFS Mount Barker Response

Wonder if they got that equipment on in time??  :-P

1908911 16:16:22  29-02-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 29/02/08 16:15,RESPOND RCR,BALD HILLS RD,MT BARKER MAP 173 E 11 TG128,CNR SPRINGS RD,MBKR19 CFS Mount Barker Response

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boss on February 29, 2008, 11:40:19 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 01/03/08 00:43,RESPOND Rescue Animal,WELLINGTON RD,WISTOW MAP 000 0 0,FROM POLICE, ABOUT 2-3 KM FROM WISTOW. N,O ONE TRAPPED,MTB020 SES Mt Barker Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC002 01/03/08 00:47,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,WELLINGTON RD,WISTOW MAP 000 0 0 TG128,FROM POLICE ABOUT 2-3 KM FROM WISTOW NO,ONE TRAPPED,MBKR19 CFS Mount Barker Response

adelaide fire is doing well lately  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Trav on March 01, 2008, 08:41:13 PM
1919066 21:27:02 01-03-08 MFS: HAVE FUN CHASING THESE KIDS TONIGHT NIPPER MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on March 01, 2008, 09:13:59 PM
1919066 21:27:02 01-03-08 MFS: HAVE FUN CHASING THESE KIDS TONIGHT NIPPER MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

At This rate Elizabeth aint gonna have a good nights sleep.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on March 03, 2008, 08:45:35 PM
This may not be the right spot but heard something funny on the scanner tonight Barmera 24P was bogged down by the Lake  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on March 03, 2008, 10:12:47 PM
1915531 23:31:24 03-03-08 22:19:58 ESCUE HEIGHTS,PENNESHAW ,PENNESHAW MAP 0 0 0 TG130,RIVERSIDE RD BAUDIN BEACH 77YEAR OLD OV,ER CLIFF CONTACT CHARLES VONDUSSA XXXXXXX,10 P1,PENN00 KIS029 SES Loxton

I dont know about you but Loxton sure is a long way from KI :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on March 04, 2008, 04:21:22 AM
1915531 23:31:24 03-03-08 22:19:58 ESCUE HEIGHTS,PENNESHAW ,PENNESHAW MAP 0 0 0 TG130,RIVERSIDE RD BAUDIN BEACH 77YEAR OLD OV,ER CLIFF CONTACT CHARLES VONDUSSA XXXXXXX,10 P1,PENN00 KIS029 SES Loxton

I dont know about you but Loxton sure is a long way from KI :-P

Don't believe the pager website tags...the resources paged were PENN00 (Pennishaw CFS) and KIS029 (Kingscote SES).
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on March 04, 2008, 07:46:38 AM
The page looked more like one that had been redirected to someone's pager, rather than a direct page from MFS....

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on March 04, 2008, 08:23:35 AM
Probably East region Regional Training officer who is based in Loxton.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on March 05, 2008, 06:10:08 AM
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01:22:28   05-03-08   MFS: FROM MURRAY BRIDGE CAPTCHANGE OF QUARTERS TO MFS MURRAY BRIDGE CFS Jervois Info

01:23:35   05-03-08   MFS: JERVOIS CHANGE QUARTERS TO MURR BRIDGE MFS STATION CFSRES CFS Jervois Info

01:33:50   05-03-08   MFS: FROM MURRAY BRIDGE CAPT CHANGE OF QUARTERS TO MFS MURRAY BRIDGE CONFIRM WITH ADELAIDE FIRE*URGMSG CFS Jervois Info


Jervois rings up Adelaide Fire...."Whats a Change of Quarters???".... :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Heavy Rescue on March 05, 2008, 08:52:27 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:09,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,PRIVATE DWELLING,DALK19 CFS Dalkeith Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:21,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,WITH DALKEITH,GWLR00 CFS Gawler River Response

DALK: *CFSRES: STATION MANNED FOR FIRECALL 05-03-08 08:21 CFS Dalkeith Response

DALK: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED FOR THIS INCIDENT 05-03-08 08:24 CFS Dalkeith Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:36,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,,GAW359 CONC00 MFS Gawler 359

MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:36,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,,GAW359 CONC00 CFS Barossa Group Officers

MFS: *CFSRES INC012 05/03/08 08:45,RESPOND Private Alarm,LOT 666 RIVERBANKS RD,HILLIER MAP 31 L 4 TG102,WITH MFS,ROSE00 CFS Roseworthy Response

MFS: *CFSRES:concordia RESPOND stop, ( for private alarm 05/03/2008 8:48:01 AM CFS Barossa Group Officers Response

MFS: STOP FOR CALL CFS Roseworthy Response (08:51)

Now I did not hear the radio traffic associated with this call so I am only guessing that this was not a going structure fire - if it was and all the other brigades were turned out as a result of an upgrade then please dismiss my further message.

If however this was a standard Private Alarm and the other resources were responded as a result of brigades not being able to get a crew then I will begin my own hypothesis on the incident.

First of all why are Dalkeith being responded to Private Alarm by themsleves, this is a two appliance response which for nearly all EMA brigades would indicate a two brigade response (rural brigades will only ever be paged singularly because BOMS is not setup with their data). EMA brigade zones should be setup with two brigades for any structure fire type incident.

If someone in Dalkeith was switched on enough to realise this should be a dual response call why does it then take 12 minutes to respond another brigade, or if  turning out Gawler River was a result of no crew at Dalkeith then again I ask why does it take 12 minutes to default. Obviously someone must have acknowledged the page with MFS or they would have defaulted them after 4 minutes, so therefore whoever does the acknowledging then takes on the role of ensuring a suitable response occurs, in any case after 4 minutes if you have not heard any appliance respond you should be thinking about defaulting.

After 15 minutes Dalkeith still don't have a crew - no problems we all have those days sometimes, but then MFS from Gawler and Concordia CFS are responded 27 minutes after the initial response. Surely if you push the more crew button after 15 minutes you should be contacting Adelaide Fire immediately to inform them that we cannot respond you had better turnout someone else in our place.

Roseworthy were responded 36 minutes after the inital call, I am assuming this is because no other CFS brigade had actually managed to crew a truck and the MFS  from Gawler were wondering why they were deep in CFS area without them there.

So about 30 minutes after the initial call someone might have actually arrived, god help us if this was a going job.

I have my 'armchair expert' hat firmly attached to my head so I would love for someone involved in this call to fill us in on what actually happened, hopefully it is nothing like I have explained otherwise the whole thing is just an absolute joke.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on March 06, 2008, 06:04:27 PM
I am not conented with the issue raised in the above post in any way, but from what i can gather, Hiller is not CFS area any way.  All previous calls to Hiller have been MFS first off. So the question that should be asked, is why was Dalkeith responded to MFS area in the first place with out MFS going.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on March 06, 2008, 06:07:23 PM
Perhaps SAMFS were busy? Their appliance offline?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on March 06, 2008, 06:41:49 PM
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Perhaps SAMFS were busy? Their appliance offline?

pizza guy turned up just as call came in :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on March 06, 2008, 06:44:46 PM
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TWO workers have been injured, one of them seriously, in a structural collapse at a southern suburbs winery that has spilt one million litres of wine.

A platform supporting a stainless steel tank collapsed on the two men at Wirra Wirra winery, on McMutrie Rd, about 12.30pm, and one was trapped in the wreckage.

The other  was able to free himself and is shaken but not seriously injured, according to paramedics.

The man who was trapped has been freed and is on his way to Flinders Medical Centre with spinal injuries.

SafeWork SA has been advised and police are on the scene.

thats umm rather a lot of wine?! 333 34's worth to be precise :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Comms on March 07, 2008, 07:50:13 AM
I am not conented with the issue raised in the above post in any way, but from what i can gather, Hiller is not CFS area any way.  All previous calls to Hiller have been MFS first off. So the question that should be asked, is why was Dalkeith responded to MFS area in the first place with out MFS going.

Riverbanks, Hillier, Parr and Angle Rds are all zoned 92B in BOMS. The turnout for a PA to any of those streets in Dalkeith only. Turnout for a SD adds Virginia. That's consistent with the boundaries we have loaded in OziExplorer.

I'd also send Stirling North  :evil:

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on March 07, 2008, 08:03:26 AM
Any chance of getting a copy of the Boundaries/responses Layer in the Oziexplorer setup for Comcen?? (Assuming your using the Mt Lofty topographical map ;))

Google Maps would definately say No to Stirling North being responded :P    (283 km – about 3 hours 34 mins)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on March 07, 2008, 01:51:06 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC052 07/03/08 13:56,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,462 GREENHILL RD,LINDEN PARK MAP 131 A 1 TG182,TUSMORE BAKERY,EAS020 BURN19 MIT020 GLO441 SES Metro South Response

task has been passed to central region do as power outage at lynton makes roller doors...a manual proposition. SES Metro South Response

I find this concerning that an agency concerened with disaster response doesn't have contingencies to do with power outages, or has a high reliance on electricity to be able to operate and respond.

Do any other brigades out there have similar relainces on electricity, or do they have back up power etc.

Any thoughts
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on March 07, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
All units have generators however most builings are not wired correctly to hook up generator power (yes I know there is a dodgy way but).
A recent request to upgrade our electrical system, so that we can do that & comply with current ohs & electrical standards was knocked back - NO MONEY.
Seems there are higher priorities in other agencies, than complying with state legislation. So its not a lack of planning or professionalism on the part of the units concerned but rather the powers that be!
This soughtof thing makes a mockery of the whole SAFECOM/ESO portfolio!
Anyway cheers before I say anymore!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on March 07, 2008, 02:58:29 PM
So they don't have a procedure to open doors when the power goes out, so they are unaware of how to change the doors over to manual, hmmm, thank god they aren't an emergency service.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on March 07, 2008, 03:47:20 PM
 :-o.....have they ever heard of Chains to open the doors,  no need for generators...just good old Hard work using what we have called "arms".
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Ashes on March 07, 2008, 03:58:07 PM
Saw an SES Unit leaving as we went past this arvo, two people in total? Do they have trouble getting crews to man units as well?

Ashes
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on March 07, 2008, 04:53:06 PM
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TWO workers have been injured, one of them seriously, in a structural collapse at a southern suburbs winery that has spilt one million litres of wine.

A platform supporting a stainless steel tank collapsed on the two men at Wirra Wirra winery, on McMutrie Rd, about 12.30pm, and one was trapped in the wreckage.

The other  was able to free himself and is shaken but not seriously injured, according to paramedics.

The man who was trapped has been freed and is on his way to Flinders Medical Centre with spinal injuries.

SafeWork SA has been advised and police are on the scene.

thats umm rather a lot of wine?! 333 34's worth to be precise :-o

& a 14... - To be precise.. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on March 07, 2008, 05:28:41 PM
"So they don't have a procedure to open doors when the power goes out, so they are unaware of how to change the doors over to manual, hmmm, thank god they aren't an emergency service.......".....have they ever heard of Chains to open the doors,  no need for generators...just good old Hard work using what we have called "arms"."
The page was a "dig"at some people in high places - it should not have been sent, so that everyone can read them-however!
You guys amaze me, very quick to question another service when things don't look right but on the other hand go right off when the criticism is leveled at your respective services. An SES recon team is two people, that is the minmum standard for general response.
If you want to throw stones 1) Urban pumper dragging a combitool down the road, not this area 2) Urban pumper total of 3 crew to a MVA 3) CFS 34 crew of 1 to a MVA 4) CFS Hazmat respones 3/4 hr after other services arrive 5) SAMFS Pumper "rear ends" another pumper - need I go on?
Yes we all have problems, however like it or not we are an ESO & will remain so - get used to it!
Suggest there were other problems - "1908032 15:40:45 07-03-08 replacement duty officer required phone ********* SES Metro South Info"
So I think the issue is being dealt with internally, did it really need the comments?
bye for now 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on March 07, 2008, 08:27:35 PM
Chook if you want to get into a filtered measuring contest about which emergency service is the worst and shouldn't be throwing stones, I can tell you right now, from the three SES units I work with on a regular occasion, I have never ever seen a job done in a professional manner. There have always been massive issues of either flat out incompetence or self importance being more important than the job at hand.

I'm sure you country guys who actually perform rescue work are half decent, its just your retarded city cousins that are smearing your reputation amongst the other services.

As I have said, there are issues in ALL services, perhaps more in some than others, but there is nothing wrong with pointing out stupidity or incompetence in any service - especially our own.

Hopefully once its commented upon and the issues brought forward, it can be fixed!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on March 08, 2008, 01:05:05 PM
1928011 21:39:30 07-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 07/03/08 21:38,RESPOND PROVIDE SHELTER,15 GUM AV,DRY CREEK  MAP 94 A 4,TARPS AND LIGHTING REQD FOR SAPOL, P3,ENF020 

1919072 14:15:22 08-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 08/03/08 14:15,RESPOND Assist Police,3 GUM AV,DRY CREEK  MAP 94 A 4 TG182,,APK361 31 MFS Car 31

Hmmm popular street for SAPol :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on March 08, 2008, 01:50:07 PM
1928011 21:39:30 07-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC089 07/03/08 21:38,RESPOND PROVIDE SHELTER,15 GUM AV,DRY CREEK  MAP 94 A 4,TARPS AND LIGHTING REQD FOR SAPOL, P3,ENF020 

1919072 14:15:22 08-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 08/03/08 14:15,RESPOND Assist Police,3 GUM AV,DRY CREEK  MAP 94 A 4 TG182,,APK361 31 MFS Car 31

Hmmm popular street for SAPol :|

probably drugs stuff. from memory a while back cops raided a meth lab in dry creek. on the way back they could smell dope, opened a warehouse half a street down and found a hydro crop. keeps the cops busy i guess
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on March 08, 2008, 02:26:06 PM
is it off line or is my comp playing up? :? :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on March 08, 2008, 02:30:13 PM
No your computer is not playing up I've lost the site too and was wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on March 08, 2008, 03:11:42 PM
2nd one was ethanol leaking from a drum.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on March 08, 2008, 03:19:57 PM
No your computer is not playing up I've lost the site too and was wondering the same thing.

Thanks for the info just found it working again. :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on March 10, 2008, 03:48:15 PM
1909193   16:04:47   10-03-08   STOP FOR CALL - ONE BOAT - FLIPPED OFF TRAILER - CRUISE ISOLATED FUEL LEAK - 34P NOW RETURNING TO STATION - FROM SENIOR ONE CFS Dalkeith Info
1909193   16:06:13   10-03-08   STOP FOR MVA BOAT ROLLOVER FUEL SPILLAGE 34 PUMPER RETURNING TO STATION FROM SANDRA CFS Dalkeith Info

Well I'd just like to say that Dalkeith have great communication skills..... :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on March 10, 2008, 04:18:02 PM
CFS: CFS: AIR OPS INFO: BIRDDOG 500 & BOMBER 563 RELOCATE TO WOODSIDE AT 1700 - SARC CANT > 10/03/2008 4:37:17 PM

who is birddog?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Crownie24 on March 10, 2008, 04:22:05 PM
I think its an observation helicopter??? Its really small from memory...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on March 12, 2008, 07:58:31 AM
1909265 01:23:03 12-03-08 MFS: HELICOPTER ARRIVING 0155 MONITOR TALK GROUP 020 SECURE LANDING SITE CFS Moorak Response

00:44:04 12-03-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC004 12/03/08 00:43,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,BARMERA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,ADELAIDE SIDE OF KINGSTON BRIDGE,MORK00 CFS Moorook Response

What a nice early morning wake up call, Moorak probably thought they were going to the jail, not driving 500km to assisst with a helicopter...

When comms puts in details does the GO response automatically come up? Because if it does they might ave noticed Gambier vs Chaffey Groups?



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jacob W on March 12, 2008, 10:23:43 AM
1919074   10:00:38   12-03-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC030 12/03/08 10:00,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,GRAND TRUNKWAY ,TORRENS ISLAND MAP 80 G 2 TG182,OIL FIRE ON A4 TURBINE,ADL205 41 PAD251 APK361 OAK303 ERV071 LG2814 LGS281 MFS Car 41

ERV071: Is this emergency response brigade for the Power Station..if not who is it?
LG2814: In this instance would this be the fire boat?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on March 12, 2008, 10:30:54 AM
The boys at Largs turn out on 2814 and 281 to man the M.V. Gallantry I believe...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Comms on March 12, 2008, 11:25:07 AM
ERV071 is the Gallantry. Marine Officer is on 2814. 281 have another Marine Officer, a regular Station Officer and 2 Firies to crew the boat.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on March 12, 2008, 01:32:32 PM
More to the point, the loss of a turbine means reduction in generating capacity. Is there enough capacity in the interconnectors to make up the shortfall...

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on March 13, 2008, 03:00:21 PM
1909800 14:21:58 13-03-08 CFS: *CFSRES: BOMBERS 580/582, FIREBIRD 507 & RESCUE 54 RESPOND GRASSFIRE MCLAREN FLAT, 213 DEGREES, 40 KMS FROM WAB. INC NO 821734 < 13/03/2008 14:21:45 CFS State Air Desk


what is rescue 54?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on March 13, 2008, 05:57:34 PM
It must be another Spare ;)


850 hectare fire possibly.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on March 14, 2008, 07:28:26 PM
BURNSIDE 24 WILL BE BACK IN STATION AT 1930 HOWEVER IT WILL ONLY HAVE A QUARTER OF A TANK OF DEISEL AND SHOULD ONLY BE REFILLED AND USED IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY MOUNT BARKER TRUCK COMING TO FIX IT IN THE MORNING -


FURTHER CORRECTION - DO NOT TAKE 24 ANYWHERE - IT IS NOT A CACTUS BUT IT IS CACTUS - ANY HELP REQUIRED FOR RE COMMISSIONING IS APPRECIATED CFS Burnside Info


Interesting, then they responded it to this?

MFS: *CFSRES INC096 14/03/08 19:30,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HORSNELL GULLY RD,HORSNELL GULLY MAP 120 M 8 TG126,,NORT00 BURN19 SAIR55 ATHL19 CFS Burnside Response

Obviously wasnt that bad after all?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Red Message on March 14, 2008, 07:51:02 PM
Did they take their 24?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on March 16, 2008, 10:16:29 AM
yeah Burnside pumper, 24 and tanker all came up on GRN
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on March 16, 2008, 01:18:35 PM
1909191   13:43:15   16-03-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC055 16/03/08 13:41,RESPOND Assist Police,50 REUBEN RICHARDSON RD,GREENWITH MAP 72 Q 2 TG182,RENDEVOUS WITH SAPOL AT SOUTHERN END OF,REUBEN RICHARDSON RD MALE POURD PETROL,ON SELF AND ARMED WITH CROSS BOW,TTG CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: snr1 on March 16, 2008, 02:04:03 PM
1909187 13:48:30 16-03-08 MFS: ATTEMPTED SUICIDE BY POLICE, LIGHT BUT NO SIREN, WITH DUE CAUTION CFS Para Group Officers Response


Obviuosly someone doesn't like their job!!!!
Or maybe the heat has gotten to them.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on April 05, 2008, 08:19:16 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 04/04/08 13:54,RESPOND Marine Spillage,ELDER RD,BIRKENHEAD MAP 91 Q 5 TG182,SPILL IN PORT RIVER COMING OUT OF NORTH,ARM PETER BRADDOCK 0421611757,LG2814 LGS281 ERV071 MFS 2814 Marine

Not sure if this has been asked before but what appliance / person is this?Obviously its environment related.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on April 05, 2008, 08:38:53 AM
Thats the MFS Fire Boat Pager Code
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Red Message on April 05, 2008, 06:54:09 PM
Fire boat?

I think you mean SAMFS M.V Gallantry  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on April 05, 2008, 07:11:50 PM
Quote
Fire boat?

I think you mean SAMFS M.V Gallantry 

since when do we use the words "MFS" and "gallant" in the same sentence?? :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on April 05, 2008, 08:19:29 PM
Fire boat?

I think you mean SAMFS M.V Gallantry  :-)

There is a difference?  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on April 06, 2008, 08:47:24 AM
1908852 08:08:54 06-04-08 CFS: SIGINC: CFS, NSWRFS & NSWSES ATTENDING TRUCKFIRE BARRIER HWY, COCKBURN. $400,000 DAMAGE, NIL INJURIES - DSC MILLER > 06/04/2008 08:08:43 CFS HQ Info

Any info on this incident  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jacob W on April 09, 2008, 01:29:35 PM
1909148   12:45:20   09-04-08   DELIVERY OFF PARACOMBES NEW QUICK ATTACK VEHICLE ARRIVES 1900 THURSDAY THE 1OTH TRAINING ON THIS VEHICLE 1930 PHONE DARRYL FOR APOLOGIES 041780:?23 CFS Paracombe Info

Lucky Bast.ards!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on April 09, 2008, 03:43:02 PM
1909148   12:45:20   09-04-08   DELIVERY OFF PARACOMBES NEW QUICK ATTACK VEHICLE ARRIVES 1900 THURSDAY THE 1OTH TRAINING ON THIS VEHICLE 1930 PHONE DARRYL FOR APOLOGIES 041780:?23 CFS Paracombe Info

Lucky Bast.ards!
One went out last night but not sure who to.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 09, 2008, 05:03:38 PM
1908852 08:08:54 06-04-08 CFS: SIGINC: CFS, NSWRFS & NSWSES ATTENDING TRUCKFIRE BARRIER HWY, COCKBURN. $400,000 DAMAGE, NIL INJURIES - DSC MILLER > 06/04/2008 08:08:43 CFS HQ Info

Any info on this incident  :|

I believe the NSW crews were the nearest resource..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on April 09, 2008, 11:43:32 PM
1909148   12:45:20   09-04-08   DELIVERY OFF PARACOMBES NEW QUICK ATTACK VEHICLE ARRIVES 1900 THURSDAY THE 1OTH TRAINING ON THIS VEHICLE 1930 PHONE DARRYL FOR APOLOGIES 041780:?23 CFS Paracombe Info

Lucky Bast.ards!
One went out last night but not sure who to.

And the lucky winner is....Bute!

Believe there are a further 6 still to go out.

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on April 10, 2008, 12:00:20 AM
16:46:43 09-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 09/04/08 16:45,RESPOND Smoke in Area,MILLICENT CFS,MILLICENT MAP 0 0 0 TG231,N/E SHOW GROUNDS, SMOKE IN PADDOCK WITH,HAYBAILS. CALL FROM GYMNNASTICS CLUB,SAIR55 MILL19 CFS Wattle Range Group Officers Response

It's not the page itself that is interesting it's what happens to fire trucks that drive on a freshly plowed paddock that is the interesting bit :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on April 14, 2008, 01:08:21 PM
11:59:05 14-04-08 MBKR: CFSRES: MT BARKER CENTRAL ALARM ACTIVATED RESPOND MT BARKER STN CFS Mount Barker Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC018 14/04/08 12:00,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,! B/ 13 MACLAREN ST,MT BARKER MAP 172 M 6 TG128,FAT FIRE IN SHOP ADJACENT BI LO,MBKR19 LTHT00 CFS Mount Barker Response

12:17:39 14-04-08 W81 Cat2 13 Mclaren St, Mount Barker 172 M6 SAAS Woodside

12:20:18 14-04-08 S81 ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO CLEAR FOR A BURNS CASE IN MT BARKER, WOODSIDE IS EN ROUTE SAAS Stirling

Proof that not all Fire Alarms are FALSE
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on April 15, 2008, 02:30:26 PM
13:08:22 15-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC030 15/04/08 13:07,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,XX EASTON RD,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 178 C 2 TG134,SMELL OF SMOKE AND ALARM SOUNDING,HPPY00 OHH421 CLDN00 CDN431
 
A little while later.....

13:45:45 15-04-08 HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL* RADIO ALARM CLOCK SOUNDING AND SMOKE FROM SCOTT CREEK - H/V STATION 15/04/2008 1:44:28 PM CFS Happy Valley Info

I know people panic, and we all get these calls occassionally, but with all due to respect to the house owner concerned, and in the words of John Sammy Newman...

YOU IDIOT!

4 Responding Fire trucks, plus one that couldn't (sorry, I'm at work), one Ambo and probably some Sapol as well.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Red Message on April 15, 2008, 03:03:47 PM
2nd Alarm response off the bat ain't too shabby...  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 15, 2008, 04:41:14 PM
EMA working atleast.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on April 15, 2008, 07:51:38 PM
1908980 17:44:30 15-04-08 MRPH INFO: STATION TURNOUT INFORMATION MANAGEMENT (TIM) SYSTEM IS NOW RUNNING IN TEST MODE, PLEASE COLLECT MAP PRINTOUT FROM PRINTER IN OFFICE AFTER ACKNOWLEDGING THE PAGE - ANY QUESTIONS CONTACT MATT

Curious as to what this is?? :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on April 16, 2008, 10:02:51 AM
Very interseting.

Sounds like Matt has managed to integrate the paging data with the streetfinder - or something to that affect, so that a map is automatically printed of the incident location based on pager info.  Any details MattB???

Can can you integrate it with a Navman and put it in the trucks for full turn by turn directions?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on April 16, 2008, 12:02:26 PM
Fireman Sam has had one for ages :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on April 16, 2008, 05:07:46 PM
MMMMMM,but will they say GREAT FIRE"S OF LONDON like fireman Sam does??? :lol: May be Matt can let us all know what he has done....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on April 17, 2008, 05:33:57 PM
16:32:09 17-04-08 Member attending the BA Course on the weekend, commencement time 1730 Friday at Wakefield St. 380 approved to take.Regards Trevor SES Noarlunga Info



Any one know anything about this???? Would BA be a requirement for any SES members who do Confined Space Rescue????
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on April 17, 2008, 06:10:32 PM
16:32:09 17-04-08 Member attending the BA Course on the weekend, commencement time 1730 Friday at Wakefield St. 380 approved to take.Regards Trevor SES Noarlunga Info

Any one know anything about this???? Would BA be a requirement for any SES members who do Confined Space Rescue????

I think this would be USAR and confined space rescue training...many SES units now have BA and complete training to industry standard. Maybe a training exercise or re-assess which has to be done regularly.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on April 17, 2008, 06:31:01 PM
Cool, thanks for the info Andrew. Thats what I thought it must before.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on April 18, 2008, 12:16:25 PM
HAPPY VALLEY *STOP CALL*NOT REQUIRED DOWNGRADE RESPONSE CLARENDON 24P RETURNED TO STATION - H/V STATION 18/04/2008 9:37:49 AM
Anyone know why Happy Valley are running Clarendon 24P from their station?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on April 18, 2008, 12:49:59 PM
pumper offline perhaps?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on April 18, 2008, 02:35:03 PM
Their Pumper left our station yesterday bound for Skilled in Victoria, I believe there is some electrical issues with the pump control.

Clarendon 24P running out of Happy Valley and Happy Valley 34 running out of Clarendon.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 18, 2008, 03:49:03 PM
Along with an old 34 which is soon to grace their presence for the shor term.. (Until pumper is back).
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on April 18, 2008, 06:27:42 PM
Now did I hear it right that Barker pumper has the same problem??? If so is CFS going to tell the other brigade's/groups about the problem so that they can check their type two pumpers???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 18, 2008, 07:40:44 PM
Its nothing that you can "check" I believe Bill.. From what I have heard, it seems to be an intermittent problem with either the main control box, the rear pump panel, or, the wiring some where in between..

However, I have heard reports of this through a number of various editions of those appliances (Mainly the more recent models).. So hopefully what ever it is, it is picked up and rectified SOONER rather than later!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jacob W on April 19, 2008, 03:24:36 PM
** Shakes head **

When will they ever learn?

1909229   14:37:18   19-04-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC043 19/04/08 14:37,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KEILIRA CFS,KEILIRA MAP 0 0 0 TG224,DEH BURNOFF BROKEN LINES AT MT SCOTT,SAIR55 KEIL00 KNGS00 REED00 CFS: Keilira & District
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on April 19, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
Ease up.  Mistakes  happen.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on April 19, 2008, 05:26:17 PM
Ease up.  Mistakes  happen.


All too often in some cases.  :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on April 20, 2008, 07:29:14 AM
Was not a big problem,the wind picked up that is all and some brigade's where stopped called,we all make mistakes and it was good to see that DEH called for help sooner rather than later.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on April 20, 2008, 09:35:45 AM
Ease up.  Mistakes  happen.


All too often in some cases.  :-P

Yeah granted if they were doing a burn in the middle of summer i would tend to agree with you.  But the weather at the moment is perfect for completing controlled burns.  So in the event that it does break free like it did yesterday it wouldnt travel far.  Yesterdays effort burnt less than a hectare i believe.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on April 21, 2008, 07:06:59 PM
17:48:33   21-04-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC057 21/04/08 17:48,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,ANGAS ST,ADELAIDE MAP B B 18 TG182,CNR PULTENEY, PERSONS TRAPPED, RESCUE UN,DER WAY,31 MFS Car 31
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 21, 2008, 09:49:12 PM
What was the result Jono? Did they make the grab?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rusty on April 21, 2008, 11:37:25 PM
primary & secondary searches of the (abandoned) premises found no persons inside. seems it was a common squat for more than one homeless person...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 22, 2008, 12:56:23 PM
Thanks rusty. - Good outcome!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jacob W on April 22, 2008, 01:31:44 PM
Did anyones PDW's pickup the other half of this message????

1909545   12:36:38   22-04-08   (2of2) t Thursday (17/4). No assets are at threat and CFS crews have not been responded. DEH SC.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on April 22, 2008, 01:56:29 PM
12:36:29  22-04-08  (1of2) DEH crews in South East Region are attending a 1 ha fire adjacent Mount Scott CP that has breached containment lines from a prescribed burn conducted las
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jacob W on April 22, 2008, 02:02:51 PM
Cheers CFS_Firey,

I understand that it is the season for burning, but surely they need to keep a better eye on these things.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on April 23, 2008, 04:16:56 PM
14:25:43 23-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 23/04/08 14:25,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,73 HIMALAYA DR,NORTH HAVEN MAP 67 K 11 TG182,ASSIST 281 AT REAR OF THIS LOCATION WITH, GRASS FIRE,SAIR55 LG2814 MFS 2814 Marine

Imagine having a boat as one of your primary response appliances?
That is way cool!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on April 23, 2008, 04:21:22 PM
It would be funny, but its not a boat, its a 14 appliance.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on April 23, 2008, 06:21:17 PM
oops...
there go my fantasies...

Is it a ROSA then?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on April 23, 2008, 06:25:48 PM
oops...
there go my fantasies...

Is it a ROSA then?

yes
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Jono on April 24, 2008, 03:47:37 PM
last night, no sleep.


02:12:45   24-04-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC004 24/04/08 02:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RIVER RD,PORT NOARLUNGA MAP 185 J 14 TG182,OPPOSITE CATHERINE ST,CDN431 SEAF00 SAIR55 CFS Seaford Response


03:15:11   24-04-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC009 24/04/08 03:14,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NEW RD,PORT NOARLUNGA MAP 185 M 16 TG182,FIRE IN SCRUB BETWEEN NEW RD & KULKYNE W,AY,CDN431 SEAF00 SAIR55 CFS Seaford Response

03:39:03   24-04-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC010 24/04/08 03:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,RIVER RD,PORT NOARLUNGA MAP 185 J 14 TG182,,CDN431 SEAF00 SAIR55 CFS Mawson Group Officers Response

04:09:00   24-04-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC011 24/04/08 04:08,RESPOND Fence Fire,75 COMMERCIAL RD,PORT NOARLUNGA SOUTH MAP 195 H 3 TG182,,CDN431 SEAF00 CDN439 CFS Seaford Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on April 24, 2008, 04:59:06 PM
Kids these days... *shakes fist*
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on April 24, 2008, 04:59:50 PM
Ah well, looks like Seaford MFS will be kept busy then.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on April 24, 2008, 05:04:25 PM
Poor gents won't get a wink of sleep. As long as it all happens after Foxtel time, its all good.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 24, 2008, 05:53:45 PM
:lol:... - New Season of Rescue Me starts beginning of May.. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on April 24, 2008, 07:33:14 PM
Oh well, when MFS go in there you will get your sleep  :evil:

sorry, poor form i know...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on April 24, 2008, 08:39:16 PM
Not poor form, just a lack of intelligence to post something worth while. :-o 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on April 26, 2008, 06:57:31 PM
1928012 16:33:29 26-04-08 MFS: stop for call 052 child found from sapol 26/04/2008 4:33:17 PM SES East Region
1918237 16:33:27 26-04-08 MFS: stop for call 052 child found from sapol 26/04/2008 4:33:17 PM SES Berri
Not bad we weren't called  :x
1908528 16:27:57 26-04-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 26/04/08 16:26,RESPOND SEARCH,BERRI SES,BERRI MAP 0 A 0,LIAISE WITH SAPOL AT PUMP STN RIVERVIEW,DR FOR SEARCH OF 7YO BOY. 4WD REQD,SDO050 SES State Duty Officer
Used to be activated locally & considering the location was near the river, time is of the essence! Thankfully the child was found!
Seems to be the way of the future!
Anyway I guess a grievance will be going in :wink:
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on April 26, 2008, 07:06:43 PM
By the looks of that, the SES state duty officer was notifed of the response, then 6 mins later a stop went out.. - Maybe in that time he was in the process of sending out a Unit response?

SES were notified though, so you can only grieve to your heirachy if what I can see is what occured..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on April 26, 2008, 07:23:19 PM
Yep already spoken to the regional DO to find out what happened, but in the past the state DO and the unit would be paged together (takes time to organise the boat etc). Now we seem to be controlled more by central, several weeks ago (the two semi fatal at Monash) we were responded without any request by the unit in attendance (Barmera), they weren't even informed we were coming!
We (the local UM's) have already asked "Is this (Monash)a one off or is this the way we are going to operate from now on?"
It appears that going forward Unit Managers (used to be controllers) have less control of our units.
This time as I said the outcome was a good one, however next time that six minute delay could cause a very different result! Hopefully this was an oversite and not a change in operational practice! By the way any search near the river would result in the boat being deployed early as a possible so it (the river)can be discounted & the quad bikes from Barmera and a team from Loxton or Renmark as well! The plan is to hit the area hard and early to contain the person quickly, as I said time is of the essence.
cheers 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on May 05, 2008, 10:09:02 AM
FROM KAPUNDA FIRE STANDBY FOR THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE, FROM S.F.F. DEUTER BECAUSE KAPUNDA S.E.S. WILL BE OUT OF DISTRICT FROM 0400 HRS MONDAY 5TH. MAY FOR INDEFINITE PERIOD KAPUNDA 641 WILL BE FIRST RESPONCE FOR R.C.R. UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Mike on May 05, 2008, 10:35:13 AM
Related to:

1908027 21:35:31 04-05-08 KAPUNDA CREW GOING TO SEARCH AREA BRING OWN FOOD FOR BREAKFAST. BE AT STATION BY 0340HRS FROM KAPUNDA DUTY OFFICER SES Kapunda Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: piriejono on May 05, 2008, 12:15:11 PM
The search is in regards to a report of uni students trapped by a rock slide in the rangers somewhere possibly Mambray Creak started yesturday.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boss on May 05, 2008, 07:05:28 PM
REPLACEMENT TRUCK COMING FOR KAROONDA 34P ALL BA RCR GEAR AND HANDHELD RADIOS WILL BE IN THE TRAILER - TAKE TO INCIDENT AS REQUIRED - THANKS KAROONDA CAPTAIN CFS Karoonda Info

dose anyone knows whats wrong with new 34p fleet  :| :| :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 05, 2008, 07:08:48 PM
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dose anyone knows whats wrong with new 34p fleet

laughing out loud.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on May 05, 2008, 07:39:33 PM
MMMMMM yet another one bite's the dust,well there getting a temp appliance poor Meningie only have one appliance to cover their area how rude is that.....with all those 34 spare's sitting at MFS workshops why can't they have one???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 05, 2008, 07:48:13 PM
theres are lot of shifting and temporary changing around at all brigades involved for the duration of repairs to the 10 trucks ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on May 06, 2008, 05:28:33 PM
16:05:33   06-05-08   REMINDER OF BRIGADE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT -NEED AS MANY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE TO ATTEND AS WE HAVE MEMBERSHIP ISSUES TO DISCUSS - IF YOU HAVE DRESS UNIFORM PLS WEAR IT - THANKS DEAN YOU CFS Aldinga Info


Interesting...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on May 06, 2008, 05:40:35 PM
May be at last they are looking at asking region to allow them to have more members than what they have :roll: I hope so
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on May 07, 2008, 01:21:13 PM
16:05:33   06-05-08   REMINDER OF BRIGADE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT -NEED AS MANY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE TO ATTEND AS WE HAVE MEMBERSHIP ISSUES TO DISCUSS - IF YOU HAVE DRESS UNIFORM PLS WEAR IT - THANKS DEAN YOU CFS Aldinga Info

Interesting...

yes!  how many people at brigade level (or even group level) have dress uniforms?  In my brigade I reckon maybe 3 people and probably 1 that can still fit in it after all the years.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 07, 2008, 01:31:22 PM
12:17:26   07-05-08   LOX: URGMSG Respond RCR. Required 2 members in 41 to assist Police 10k past Alawoona for roll over. No injuries and all out of vehicle. NO LIGHTS or SIRENS. Pls call Danny to confirm responce NOT Adel Fire. Danny

Then..

MFS: *CFSRES INC029 07/05/08 12:22,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,VEITCH ,VEITCH MAP 000 0 0 TG203, FROM BERRI POLICE CAR ROLLOVER 30 KMS F,5A TOWER,LOX029 BRWL00
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on May 07, 2008, 10:20:48 PM
17:11:31 07-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 07/05/08 17:10,RESPOND Tree Fire,BOSMAN DR,BERRI MAP 0 0 0 TG193,OPP BERRI CLUB,SAIR55 BER609 MFS Berri Response


17:26:41 07-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC048 07/05/08 17:25,RESPOND Tree Fire,BOSMAN DR,BERRI MAP 0 0 0 TG193,OPPOSITE BERRI CLUB.MFS PROBLEMS GETTING, CREW,SAIR55 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response


Now that is a long delay 15 minutes  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on May 09, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
CFS: SIG INC: FYI: CONFIRMING TELECONFERENCE AT 1530 HRS THIS AFTERNOON REGARDING FIRE & EMERGENCY SERVICES ACT. COMMANDERS & MANAGERS PLEASE ATTEND - REGARDS A.LAWSON. > 09/05/2008 9:39:32 AM CFS STC Info

Anyone know what's up with the act?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on May 09, 2008, 12:25:43 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera


Cook is that area not Berri responce area?  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on May 09, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
This is what I sent to region
*****not sure why Barmera & Glossop got called to this:-
1919306 08:40:10 09-05-08
 MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response
 MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera
1924962
 08:34:43
 09-05-08
 BE71 Cat2 Trennaman Rd, Berri SAAS Road Crash Research
 Except for the fact they said Glossop instead of Monash
Hopefully SACAD will fix this problem
Cheers
Ken"

If the attached map works you will see you are quite right, unfortunately
if you type "Glossop" into the system Barmera gets responded. In all honesty I'm not particularly worried about this type of stuff anymore as the Commcen can only go on what they are told. Of more concern is the other stuff thats going on around the place like "volunteers charter" that we didn't know about until 2 weeks ago & other weird stuff like that. Anyway cheers mate & take it easy.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 09, 2008, 04:57:05 PM
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This is what I sent to region

*****not sure why Barmera & Glossop got called to this:-
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera

08:34:43 09-05-08  BE71 Cat2 Trennaman Rd, Berri

Except for the fact they said Glossop instead of Monash

Hopefully SACAD will fix this problem
Cheers
Ken"

If the attached map works you will see you are quite right, unfortunately
if you type "Glossop" into the system Barmera gets responded. In all honesty I'm not particularly worried about this type of stuff anymore as the Commcen can only go on what they are told. Of more concern is the other stuff thats going on around the place like "volunteers charter" that we didn't know about until 2 weeks ago & other weird stuff like that. Anyway cheers mate & take it easy.

I did my own search for 'TRENAMAN ROAD, GLOSSOP' in Google maps...and the first suggestion was acutally 'Trenaman Crescent Berri SA 5343'  It wasnt until i corrected the spelling that it came up as 'Trennaman Rd Glossop SA 5344'.

Quite right about the response being decided on the town name rather than the pin point location, since outside the land of the UBD map theres no preprogrammed addresses...so all youll get is "Vehicle Accident, GLOSSOP CFS, GLOSSOP" or "Vehicle Accident, BERRI, BERRI"...either way...a Fire brigade and a  rescue brigade will be "recommended" best suiting the township chosen...

I think it all depends on the mind of the call taker ;) Cant trust a computer for filtered these days...

SACAD continues to be God  :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on May 09, 2008, 05:32:24 PM
Yep, anyway at least someone was responded :wink:
So no real harm done, my greater concern is when no one is called.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: backburn on May 09, 2008, 07:38:17 PM
This is what I sent to region
*****not sure why Barmera & Glossop got called to this:-
1919306 08:40:10 09-05-08
 MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response
 MFS: *CFSRES INC014 09/05/08 08:38,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,GLOSSOP CFS,GLOSSOP MAP 0 0 0 TG203,CAR ROLLOVER - TRENAMAN RD, GLOSSOP,NEAR JURY ROAD,BMA029 GLOS00 SES Barmera
1924962
 08:34:43
 09-05-08
 BE71 Cat2 Trennaman Rd, Berri SAAS Road Crash Research
 Except for the fact they said Glossop instead of Monash
Hopefully SACAD will fix this problem
Cheers
Ken"

If the attached map works you will see you are quite right, unfortunately
if you type "Glossop" into the system Barmera gets responded. In all honesty I'm not particularly worried about this type of stuff anymore as the Commcen can only go on what they are told. Of more concern is the other stuff thats going on around the place like "volunteers charter" that we didn't know about until 2 weeks ago & other weird stuff like that. Anyway cheers mate & take it easy.



Sorry chook but that road is boundry of Glossop and Monash and seeing Monash 34 is off line until later this month they had to send Glossop only. Glossop is all the way up Jurry road to the middel of Trennaman from Old Sturt Highway
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on May 09, 2008, 09:32:09 PM
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1926877 16:24:35 09-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC041 09/05/08 16:24,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,MAIN NORTH RD,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 H 15 TG182,IN DRIVEWAY OF ON THE RUN,ELZ331 ELZ332 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response

a carfire in the drive way of a petrol station??? fun..................... :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on May 12, 2008, 02:04:06 PM
GROUP INFO TO ALL MEMBERS THAT WERE BOOKED FOR NAVIGATE IN URBAN ENVIRONMENT COURSE THIS WEEKEND HAS BEEN CANCELLED BY STATE TRAINING CENTRE DUE TO LACK OF NUMBERS - ANY QUERIES CONTACT GROUP TRAINING COORDINATOR

I wonder if it was lack of numbers or money? I've been wanting to do that course for a while now, obviously didnt try too hard to fill it?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 12, 2008, 02:16:53 PM
Doesnt seem available to many brigades in the first place?  not openly advertised enough to firefighters?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on May 12, 2008, 02:25:31 PM
well i got told it was for officers and drivers and as i am neither it wasn't offered. mabey we need an online interactive sign up for courses? :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 12, 2008, 02:34:19 PM
Thats an idea...a CFS Intranet that goes beyond State and Region but also to brigades ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on May 12, 2008, 05:05:47 PM
Never even heard of it until now :|

Apart from the obvious what does it actually do??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Red Message on May 12, 2008, 06:33:41 PM
If you have a good T/O that gives you the state and region course lists, that should make the best of the 'advertisement' side of things Zippy. That is a big IF though  :wink:

As to what the course has in it, when I did it, it was focusing on the different types of maps used, as well as how to direct someone correctly, and finally looking at major and minor landmarks to use as points of reference given a major disaster.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on May 12, 2008, 10:36:14 PM
If you have a good T/O that gives you the state and region course lists, that should make the best of the 'advertisement' side of things Zippy. That is a big IF though  :wink:

As to what the course has in it, when I did it, it was focusing on the different types of maps used, as well as how to direct someone correctly, and finally looking at major and minor landmarks to use as points of reference given a major disaster.

Hopefully it is the same course that SASES have been delivering. Sounds like the same competency.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on May 13, 2008, 08:01:17 AM
1928011 02:03:39 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 01:59,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE AS A RESULT, OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 SHED WALL,SDO050 NOA029 SES Central Region
1908053 02:03:37 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 01:59,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE AS A RESULT, OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 SHED WALL,SDO050 NOA029 SES Noarlunga Response
1908528 02:03:26 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 01:59,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE AS A RESULT, OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 SHED WALL,SDO050 NOA029 SES State Duty Officer
1908528 02:05:13 13-05-08 MFS: stop for call - not required afterall 13/05/2008 2:05:02 AM SES State Duty Officer
1928011 02:05:11 13-05-08 MFS: stop for call - not required afterall 13/05/2008 2:04:58 AM SES Central Region
1908053 02:05:09 13-05-08 MFS: stop for call - not required afterall 13/05/2008 2:04:58 AM SES Noarlunga Response
1928011 02:21:33 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 02:19,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE ASA RESULT,OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 - REQUEST,FROM POLICE,SDO050 NOA029 SES Central Region
1908053 02:21:30 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 02:19,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE ASA RESULT,OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 - REQUEST,FROM POLICE,SDO050 NOA029 SES Noarlunga Response
1908528 02:21:18 13-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 13/05/08 02:19,RESPOND COLLAPSED BUILD,15 WARUNDA AV,SEAVIEW DOWNS MAP 152 Q 10,WALL THREATENING TO COLLAPSE ASA RESULT,OF FIRE - SAMFS ON SCENE - P4 - REQUEST,FROM POLICE,SDO050 NOA029 SES State Duty Officer
I'm not sure if I would bother getting out of bed the second time, maybe push the wall over, put up barrier tape and then no dramas :wink:
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on May 13, 2008, 12:42:15 PM
obviously the police thought it to be more of a risk than the MFS?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on May 13, 2008, 05:12:03 PM
Yep & maybe that discussion should of taken place prior to a Stop call being issued in the first place, interagency coordination at its best :wink:
After all these guys are volunteers who have jobs to got to in the morning, so as I said a bit of consultation at the scene & a decision made would be a lot more professional than "go" "don't go" "go" don't you think?
Anyway I said my piece & I'm sure the payed staff of our service will look into it.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on May 17, 2008, 11:29:06 AM
OK, we all know how it works, especially with this weather, but my whinge for the day... :roll:

10:43:18 17-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 17/05/08 10:41,RESPOND To,*** BLACK RD,FLAGSTAFF HILL MAP 165 Q 2 TG182,WATER COMING THROUGH LIGHT GLOBE DUE TO,LEAKING ROOF,OHH421 HPPY00

1. Call a plumber to fix the roof, then,
2. An Electrician to check the wiring is safe and dry,

but why "000" ?.

Sometime ago now, the circuit breaker was invented.  Even more recently, the RCD (safety switch) was invented.  These should adequately protect the installation from catching fire, in this circumstance.  But if your not sure, turn the filtered thing off just in case. Then refer to 1. and 2. above

Unless there is ACTUALLY a fire, dont call the Emergency services - don't you think they're busy anough at the moment!

Lack of proper home maintenance does not constitute an emergency.  More than likely, we will just isolate it and tell the owner to call a sparky anyway.

Enough said.  Whinge over  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on May 17, 2008, 11:32:36 AM
00:31:31 17-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC003 17/05/08 00:30,RESPOND To,STIRLING NORTH CFS,STIRLING NORTH MAP 0 0 0 TG068,CREW REQUIRED IN WHYALLA BY 0900 HRS,PLS RING BOB ON 0417 837794 IF AVAILABLE,MEMBERS ON 1ST AID IGNORE THIS MSG,STLN19   

Anyone know what is going on in Whyalla???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on May 17, 2008, 11:46:05 AM
I found it there is a gas problem.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23712892-5006301,00.html
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on May 17, 2008, 03:23:54 PM
OK, we all know how it works, especially with this weather, but my whinge for the day... :roll:

10:43:18 17-05-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 17/05/08 10:41,RESPOND To,*** BLACK RD,FLAGSTAFF HILL MAP 165 Q 2 TG182,WATER COMING THROUGH LIGHT GLOBE DUE TO,LEAKING ROOF,OHH421 HPPY00

1. Call a plumber to fix the roof, then,
2. An Electrician to check the wiring is safe and dry,

but why "000" ?.

Sometime ago now, the circuit breaker was invented.  Even more recently, the RCD (safety switch) was invented.  These should adequately protect the installation from catching fire, in this circumstance.  But if your not sure, turn the filtered thing off just in case. Then refer to 1. and 2. above

Unless there is ACTUALLY a fire, dont call the Emergency services - don't you think they're busy anough at the moment!

Lack of proper home maintenance does not constitute an emergency.  More than likely, we will just isolate it and tell the owner to call a sparky anyway.

Enough said.  Whinge over  :-D

Could have been a call to 132500, not 000. At that time both lines are answered by MFS ComCen. A person being electrocuted is a risk in my book.

During the late afternoon, I answered a 132500 call as a SES volunteer when SES SCC sctivated. The resident stated the handyman sent by the insurance company would not fix the 'water blown under flashing on a flat roof' due to the storm. So the insurance company suggested SES be called to minimise further damage. She had water dripping from the family room light fitting, so the ceiling would be next to collapse.

I do not know what the volunteer crew did at the tasking, or if the SES Unit accepted the tasking.

Protection of injury and structure.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on May 17, 2008, 03:57:58 PM
I would think water entering the house would be more of an emergency than a tree branch fallen on a fence. You see plenty of pages for those jobs or trees on driveways.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on May 26, 2008, 06:21:48 PM
GOOD EVENING - AS THE CAPT OF THE BRIGADE I NEED TO REMIND ALL PERSONNEL THAT ANGLE VALE IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF DALKEITH BRIGADE AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO RESPOND 2 TRUCKS TO ALL INCIDENTS - PLS KEEP THIS IN MIND WHEN PAGER SOUNDS >>> CFS Dalkeith Info

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on May 26, 2008, 07:01:19 PM
hardly think a rubbish fire/grass fire in middle of winter is much to get over excited about not gettin a big response....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Benji on May 26, 2008, 07:17:49 PM
CFSRES INC056 26/05/08 18:42,RESPOND RCR,BOUNDARY RD,LEWISTON MAP 20 N 11 TG100,ADJ HAYMAN RD FROM POLICE CAR V TREE,VIRG19 GWLR00

Opps  :-o
Hope they get out ok.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on May 26, 2008, 07:56:26 PM
although it looks funny i think it meant to be from police, Car V's tree
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: alphaone on May 27, 2008, 12:13:06 PM
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In your own time please come down to the station to have a look at the entry and exits to the station so you know how to get in for a fire call - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info

Any one know what this is about. Just curious.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on May 27, 2008, 04:01:59 PM
Seaford and pager messages.. Like the omega code sometimes..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 27, 2008, 04:40:16 PM
lol..

My theory is the secret code means "for those who havent came to a firecall in a while, this is how you do it"  :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on May 27, 2008, 05:17:22 PM
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In your own time please come down to the station to have a look at the entry and exits to the station so you know how to get in for a fire call - SEAFORD STATION CFS Seaford Info

Any one know what this is about. Just curious.

Seaford Road is closed between Commercial & Grand Boulevard while they rebuild the road. This closure started during the weekend.

Seaford CFS have had a dirt road put in a few weeks ago so that they can enter & exit the station while the new Seaford Road gutters were built.

This access road might have changed this week.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on May 27, 2008, 08:23:22 PM
MRPH INFO: ANYONE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST IN PICKING UP A NEW 34 FROM ANGLE PARK ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND RETURNING IT ON MONDAY PLEASE CALL MATT - 0403 437 226 CFS Morphett Vale Info

Are MV finally getting a new truck  :?  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on May 27, 2008, 08:33:56 PM
id say it would e for their big equipment day on sunday...just a guess???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on May 27, 2008, 10:53:16 PM
MRPH INFO: ANYONE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST IN PICKING UP A NEW 34 FROM ANGLE PARK ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND RETURNING IT ON MONDAY PLEASE CALL MATT - 0403 437 226 CFS Morphett Vale Info

Are MV finally getting a new truck  :?  :?

They deserve it! dont we all agree, unless they are waiting for something that suits them better of course ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on May 27, 2008, 11:00:46 PM
Ha ha, Morphett Vale get a new truck - you must be joking!!

The 34 is the new Varley built one, it is not entirely finished yet as I believe Varley still need to fix up a couple items but it will be there on Sunday.

We now have a quite a good list of vehicles coming along, still room for more though just let me know what your bringing and we will put you somewhere.

Matt
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on May 28, 2008, 10:11:31 AM
should get a pumper down there matt for the display, then just loose the keys when it comes time to returning it, might be the quickets way to get some new equipment in the gararge  :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on May 28, 2008, 12:54:43 PM
Sounds like the sort of thing one of our neighbours might do, borrow a truck for a PR event and not give it back  :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on May 28, 2008, 08:07:41 PM
Thought it was to good to be true, yep they do deserve a new truck but not one of them Varley 34's.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on May 31, 2008, 09:04:04 AM
Sounds like the sort of thing one of our neighbours might do, borrow a truck for a PR event and not give it back  :-o

Gotta be quick in this day and age..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on June 02, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
UPST: Attention Lofty DO from UPST Capt: FYI Upper Sturt Station offline till 2300 hrs. Default brigade has been arranged with Adelaide Fire. 2/06/2008


Interesting....anyone know why?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on June 02, 2008, 09:04:18 PM
This would be why Camo

1909007 19:06:46 01-06-08 FLEX-A    ALPHA  1600  From Capt: Crews to Brukunda as follows. Upper Sturt 12 leaving station at 1830hrs. If you are not there the appliance will go without you. Crew: Steve, Allan, James, Dan, John.
                                                 -= CFS Upper Sturt Info =-
1909007 19:08:27 01-06-08 FLEX-A    ALPHA  1600  From Capt: Crews to Brukunda as follows. Upper Sturt 24 leaving station at 1915hrs. If you are not there the appliance will go without you. Crew: Moose, Geoff, Ginger Ninja, Fire Man Sam.
                                                 -= CFS Upper Sturt Info =-

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 03, 2008, 04:42:48 PM
Hey Chook, you're an SES man, whats the go the search happening in Adelaide?
Seems to be a few teams heading out, I havent seen anything on the news so was wondering if you knew anything?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on June 03, 2008, 04:50:17 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC013 03/06/08 09:02,
RESPOND SEARCH,
U61 - 17 RIVER ST,
MARDEN MAP 107 B 12,
FROM POLICE - PERSON MISSING SINCE 1/6/2008 - CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR MORE INFO- 82043505,
SDO050
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on June 03, 2008, 08:13:14 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC013 03/06/08 09:02,
RESPOND SEARCH,
U61 - 17 RIVER ST,
MARDEN MAP 107 B 12,
FROM POLICE - PERSON MISSING SINCE 1/6/2008 - CONTACT ADELAIDE FIRE FOR MORE INFO- 82043505,
SDO050

Also from pager website
17:22:26 03-06-08 NO REQUIREMENTS FOR SEARCH CREW TOMORROW MISSING PERSON LOCATED

Also from http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,23802583-2682,00.html
June 03, 2008 10:50am

Search for missing, deaf, disabled man at Marden

"A SEARCH is underway for a disabled man missing from his northeastern suburbs house.

Kevin John Lee, 58, has suffered a stroke, is intellectually disabled, deaf and has trouble communicating due to a speech impediment.

Mr Lee was reported missing from his River St, Marden, home at about 5pm yesterday by his mother when he failed to return from a morning walk.

He is described as being Caucasian, about 160cm tall, about 60kgs and of slim build.

SES Volunteers have joined local police in a search of the area around River St and the nearby River Torrens."
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on June 04, 2008, 08:16:09 AM
Sorry Footy not my area - seems like Andrew & Zippy have covered it though. And the person was located by the last message.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on June 12, 2008, 07:27:59 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC025 12/06/08 12:09,RESPOND Rescue Industria,MULLER RD,GREENACRES MAP 106 P 3 TG182,GREENACRES SHOPPING CENTER ,GREENACRES M,EAT MARKET, PERSON WITH HAND STUCK IN MINCER,ADL204 ENF020 OAK303

Two words, F*&#ing OUCH!!!

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on June 12, 2008, 07:48:59 PM
maybe another attempted mfs takeover  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on June 13, 2008, 10:21:56 PM
21:10:11 13-06-08 PL181 Cat2 Grand Tasman Hotel 94 Tasman Tce, Port Lincoln C228 N1
and then:
21:20:50 13-06-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: FIP MAIN ENT FOYER, TASMAN HOTEL, TASMAN TCE, PORT LINCOLN
Coincidence? Or was there something happening there?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on June 14, 2008, 06:42:07 PM
17:56:05 14-06-08 MFS: KEITH SES HAS BEEN RESPONDED AS DEFAULT FOR VEHICLE RESCUE AT KEILORA INC 41 - PLEASE CONTACT ADEL FIRE 82043782 SES East Region


MMMM Lucindale is a hell of a lot closer than keith ses....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on June 14, 2008, 06:51:35 PM
1924962 18:10:45 14-06-08 LU181 Cat2 Bordertown-kingston Rd, Kingston SAAS Road Crash Research
1908551 18:10:43 14-06-08 LU181 Cat2 Bordertown-kingston Rd, Kingston SAAS Lucindale

SAAS from Kingston where paged at 1733hrs....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 15, 2008, 08:03:02 AM
Whats with that time difference? Maybe we should have a long and furiously impotent discussion about it!

Go!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on June 15, 2008, 09:31:14 AM
No point :-D
The comms people were rather busy I gather - took ages for them to answer the phone when I called to acknowledge our page (which was about the same time).
And I gather that there may have been changes with CFS that they are trying to get used to - e.g. Glossop being called to a Monash job! (apparently response areas changed a month ago).
So whinging about it is a waste - its not a pefect world after all.
have a nice day cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on June 16, 2008, 12:21:41 PM
MRPH: IF ANYONE IS AVAILABLE TO TAKE M24P TO WILLUNGA TOMORROW MORNING COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE STATION NOW - FOR INFO IT WILL BE UNAVAILABLE FOR TWO DAYS - LT1 - MAWSON BASE CFS Morphett Vale Info

Interesting, whats going on Matt? this must be a bit of a risk not having your pumper?? do you have a replacement or just running with your 24 for a few days?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on June 17, 2008, 09:54:47 PM
19:31:33   17-06-08   F174 THIS PT HAS ANSWERED YES TO QUESTIONS ON BIRD FLU, PLEASE RING INFECTION CONTROL BEFORE ATTENDING SAAS Fulham

 :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 18, 2008, 10:46:19 AM
00:42:11   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:41,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,POSSIBLE HOUSE FIRE.,BRDG00 ALDG00

00:50:18   18-06-08   MFS: NO. 91 OSTERLY. WELL INVOLVED.*URGMSG

00:55:15   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:54,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST BRIDGEWATER AND ALDGATE.,STRL19

00:57:30   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:56,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH BA AND ATMOSPHERIC MONITORIN,G AT HOUSEFIRE.,BURN28

01:03:00   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 01:02,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE. TG 136,HAHN00

06:58:09   18-06-08   MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MT LOFTY GROUP ATTENDED HOUSE FIRE, BRIDGEWATER. HOUSE DESTROYED. FIRE CAUSE ATTENDED. DSC WATTS 18/06/2008 6:57:59 AM


Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on June 18, 2008, 11:01:13 AM
hahahah

SNAFU??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 18, 2008, 11:03:07 AM
Situation normal - all filtered up.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 18, 2008, 11:16:12 AM
Why was this an over resourced job?
How did the job not go as it should have?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on June 18, 2008, 01:01:59 PM
i am guessing that numbers is referring to a bit of a lofty group thing that whenever there is a job there is a huge response.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 18, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Stupidly resourced, doubling up on resources, inability to correctly use assigned resources etc etc...

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on June 18, 2008, 01:49:27 PM
i am guessing that numbers is referring to a bit of a lofty group thing that whenever there is a job there is a huge response.
One in all in policy.
PS they have been called back there.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 18, 2008, 02:01:23 PM
Christ, they can't even burn a house down properly. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on June 18, 2008, 03:13:34 PM
Quote
MRPH: IF ANYONE IS AVAILABLE TO TAKE M24P TO WILLUNGA TOMORROW MORNING COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE STATION NOW - FOR INFO IT WILL BE UNAVAILABLE FOR TWO DAYS - LT1 - MAWSON BASE CFS Morphett Vale Info

Interesting, whats going on Matt? this must be a bit of a risk not having your pumper?? do you have a replacement or just running with your 24 for a few days?

Well the risk is minimal as 24P isn't really a pumper anyway, unless you class pumping out 1650lpm a pumper (I know the specs say 1900lpm but some independent testing with some pretty schmick gear confirmed our own numbers).

Also CFS don't have any spare pumpers anyway so the best we can get is a 24, if our appliance isn't going to be back this week we will push for a spare but really there is not a lot you can do.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on June 18, 2008, 10:54:29 PM
Matt, in the past CFS have been able to get a spare MFS pumper so you guys should be able to get one.....As there are a number of MFS spare's around.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on June 19, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Morphett Vale 811 ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on June 19, 2008, 12:14:12 PM
Matt, in the past CFS have been able to get a spare MFS pumper so you guys should be able to get one.....As there are a number of MFS spare's around.....


Yeah in the past they have, but not in a sensative area like that, others have recently tried.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on June 19, 2008, 07:48:52 PM
00:42:11   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:41,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,POSSIBLE HOUSE FIRE.,BRDG00 ALDG00

00:50:18   18-06-08   MFS: NO. 91 OSTERLY. WELL INVOLVED.*URGMSG

00:55:15   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:54,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST BRIDGEWATER AND ALDGATE.,STRL19

00:57:30   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:56,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH BA AND ATMOSPHERIC MONITORIN,G AT HOUSEFIRE.,BURN28

01:03:00   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 01:02,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE. TG 136,HAHN00

06:58:09   18-06-08   MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MT LOFTY GROUP ATTENDED HOUSE FIRE, BRIDGEWATER. HOUSE DESTROYED. FIRE CAUSE ATTENDED. DSC WATTS 18/06/2008 6:57:59 AM


Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!

Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on June 19, 2008, 09:11:07 PM
00:42:11   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:41,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,POSSIBLE HOUSE FIRE.,BRDG00 ALDG00

00:50:18   18-06-08   MFS: NO. 91 OSTERLY. WELL INVOLVED.*URGMSG

00:55:15   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:54,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST BRIDGEWATER AND ALDGATE.,STRL19

00:57:30   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 00:56,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH BA AND ATMOSPHERIC MONITORIN,G AT HOUSEFIRE.,BURN28

01:03:00   18-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC001 18/06/08 01:02,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,91 OSTERLEY AV,BRIDGEWATER MAP 146 H 16 TG136,ASSIST WITH 2ND ALARM HOUSE FIRE. TG 136,HAHN00

06:58:09   18-06-08   MFS: SIG INC: FYI: MT LOFTY GROUP ATTENDED HOUSE FIRE, BRIDGEWATER. HOUSE DESTROYED. FIRE CAUSE ATTENDED. DSC WATTS 18/06/2008 6:57:59 AM


Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!

Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????
Not when the DGO's from Burnside  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on June 19, 2008, 10:18:45 PM
...
Wow! Another "Everyone's invited" over-resourced SNAFU carpark job, brought to you by Mt. Lofty Group!

Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????
Not when the DGO's from Burnside  :wink:

Actually, he's from Bradbury ;)

I believe Oakbank Balhannah don't have atmospheric monitoring other than a PID - making Burnside the closest most appropriate resource... :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 20, 2008, 05:26:02 AM
[Edited due to Brain malfunction and Paid/Volunteer confusion]

Is Burnside the closest most appropriate response,for atmospheric monitoring,with Oakbank Balhannah just down the road????

Or Stirling that is already at the job...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on June 20, 2008, 06:59:22 AM
a 'Micro 5' enough?

Quote
Gases monitored: VOCs (PID), H2S, CO, O2, SO2, PH3, NO2, NH3, HCN, Cl2, ClO2, O3 and/or combustibles (0-100% LEL or 0-5.0% methane)

I believe Stirling would already have this at the job with there pumper?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on June 20, 2008, 07:59:44 AM
was there any particular reason for the atmospheric monitoring??? or just more wan k?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on June 20, 2008, 09:06:07 AM
Permapine log cabin??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on June 20, 2008, 05:23:48 PM
Or DRUG CROP
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 21, 2008, 10:58:05 AM
(1/1) 21/06/2008 9:14:37 AM Good morning, Paracombe and TTG are responding to an MVA 2km West of Torrens Hill Road. You can respond if you want! Paracombe LT1 Paracombe: CFS Gumeracha Group Officers Response

This sorta sounds like an invite to a party and not an urgent message for help?
Hey guys, come along if ya wnat, might be able to see some cool stuff...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on June 21, 2008, 11:27:43 AM
lol i agree...woulda been easier to ring Comcen to get them paged.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 21, 2008, 07:44:29 PM
a 'Micro 5' enough?

Quote
Gases monitored: VOCs (PID), H2S, CO, O2, SO2, PH3, NO2, NH3, HCN, Cl2, ClO2, O3 and/or combustibles (0-100% LEL or 0-5.0% methane)

I believe Stirling would already have this at the job with there pumper?

You believe correct! Although apparently you can't use it unless you have done a course the CFS no longer offers - because you need a course to understand what the alarm and flashing red lights mean! ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 22, 2008, 12:17:32 AM
17:59:41 21-06-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I1: STN No 51 1800 HOUR PAGER TEST, PORT AUGUSTA FIRE STATION MFS Pt Augusta Response

Does this mean that Pt Augusta have an automated system now so firies don't have to go in every night and trip the alarm tests button??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on June 22, 2008, 08:39:42 AM
No, they are continually testing the pagers for the next 1800 hours... ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 22, 2008, 12:14:27 PM
One way to stop getting those annoying installation calls... lol
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on June 24, 2008, 11:27:24 AM
a 'Micro 5' enough?

Quote
Gases monitored: VOCs (PID), H2S, CO, O2, SO2, PH3, NO2, NH3, HCN, Cl2, ClO2, O3 and/or combustibles (0-100% LEL or 0-5.0% methane)

I believe Stirling would already have this at the job with there pumper?

You believe correct! Although apparently you can't use it unless you have done a course the CFS no longer offers - because you need a course to understand what the alarm and flashing red lights mean! ;)

Are you talking about Monitor Hazardous Atmosphere course cause theres one in July - Aug sometime. If your just looking to detect something i agree you shouldnt have to do the course, but if your using it in confined space sense you need to be able to intepret what the detector is reading.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on June 24, 2008, 02:13:29 PM
1916024 11:55:54 24-06-08 AR81 Cat2 Coast Rd, Port Arthur SAAS Ardrossan

1924962 12:09:58 24-06-08 WL76 Cat2 Coast Rd, Port Arthur SAAS Road Crash Research

1924962 12:05:00 24-06-08 MO81 Cat2 Coast Rd, Port Arthur SAAS Road Crash Research

1916042 12:00:39 24-06-08 KA81 Cat 2 - V/A SAAS Kadina

1909210 12:58:45 24-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC022 24/06/08 12:58,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN ST,PORT CLINTON MAP 0 0 0 TG105,COAST RD PORT ARTHUR CAR AND TRUCK,PTWK19 PTCL00 ARDR19 CFS Port Wakefield Response

 :-o Someone forget something :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on June 25, 2008, 02:23:15 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew

Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: country kid on June 25, 2008, 03:32:05 PM
Thats really strange because i had a quick glance over the paging and there have been a few jobs down strath way, where Strath SES havent been paged at all. lack of day crews prehaps?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on June 25, 2008, 04:07:18 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew

Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.

Looking at the pager code it is probaly ashbourne......maybe one of the deh guys is in the brigade? or someone has the wrong filter on the code?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on June 25, 2008, 09:22:33 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew

Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.

Looking at the pager code it is probaly ashbourne......maybe one of the deh guys is in the brigade? or someone has the wrong filter on the code?

Your on the money Camo :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on June 26, 2008, 10:18:43 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew

Anyone know why they got paged. No Nat Parks around there.

Looking at the pager code it is probaly ashbourne......maybe one of the deh guys is in the brigade? or someone has the wrong filter on the code?

Your on the money Camo :wink:

it's not Ashbourne (they are 1909030) but could well be the wrong tag saying DEH.  The responses to that incident are interesting all round:

1928012 10:20:54 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 10:20,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16,ON TURNOFF BEFORE GREENMAN INN,STR029 SES East Region
1908083 10:20:50 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 10:20,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16,ON TURNOFF BEFORE GREENMAN INN,STR029 SES Strathalbyn

1909029 11:08:19 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:06,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN, ASSIST SES,STBN00 CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
1909035 11:08:17 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:06,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN, ASSIST SES,STBN00 CFS Strathalbyn Response

1915879 11:13:15 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 DEH Southern Lofty Fire Crew
1909029 11:13:13 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
1909030 11:13:11 25-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC024 25/06/08 11:12,RESPOND Tree Down,ASHBOURNE RD,STRATHALBYN MAP 251 B 16 TG142,TURNOFF BEFORE GREEN MAN INN,ASHB00 CFS Ashbourne Response

1909029 11:15:22 25-06-08 MFS: STOP FOR TREE DOWN ASHBOURNE RD ASHBOURNE, , CFS Strathalbyn Group Officers Response
1909035 11:15:21 25-06-08 MFS: STOP FOR TREE DOWN ASHBOURNE RD ASHBOURNE, , CFS Strathalbyn Response

Could that mystery extra one (tag "DEH", capcode 1915879) perhaps be Forestry?  Do Ashbourne brigade have some link with Forestry as far as responses go in that area maybe?



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on June 26, 2008, 02:42:53 PM
13:34:15 26-06-08 V81 Cat2 15/60 Renown Av, Victor Harbor 309 Q9 SAAS Victor Harbour

13:53:09 26-06-08 V81 HI - HAVE CAT 3 IN LOBETHAL FOR YOU WHEN READY FOR DETAIL SAAS Victor Harbour

Lol....what a potentially long trip.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on June 26, 2008, 09:05:27 PM
1909007 15:09:05 26-06-08 Attention Attention: Any members available in area now please ring Captain ASAP on 0400 267 178 CFS Upper Sturt Info

1909053 16:47:33 26-06-08 INFO: CREW REQUIRED SPECIAL SERVICE CALL TREE DOWN BWD CPT HAS INFO. CFS Blackwood Info

 :? :? :?

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: ElectricEliminator on June 26, 2008, 09:54:20 PM
Upper Sturts was nothing to do with blackwoods job, it was something at th station.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on June 27, 2008, 01:13:32 PM
12:10:20   27-06-08   BL81 Cat3 Wallace St, Balaklava C55 G7 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Balaklava
12:15:39   27-06-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC021 27/06/08 12:14,RESPOND Assist Police,BALAKLAVA CFS,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,AVOID MAIN STREET ON WAY STATION,BALA00 CFS Balaklava Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: COBB on June 27, 2008, 01:24:10 PM
Would assume its to do with the ANZ bank being robbed.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on June 27, 2008, 01:44:45 PM
Right on the Money COBB
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on June 27, 2008, 07:24:08 PM
FROM TODAY TALKGROUP 008 ON THE GRN RADIO IS TO BE USED TO ACKNOWLEGE PAGER MESSAGES OR TALK WITH ADELAIDE FIRE. TALKGROUP 007 IS NOW REGION 6 OPERATIONS CHANNEL. R6HQ OPS 27/06/2008 4:28:45 PM CFS R6 Fire Bans Maildrop
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on June 27, 2008, 09:14:16 PM
20:34:00 27-06-08 I know an Auto Alarm Call is boring to some BUT 4 crew to any fire call is not acceptable. MFS Pt Augusta Response
Maybe even money is no incentive these days?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on June 28, 2008, 06:13:43 AM
Thats what I don't get, its money for jam being retained, you may as well go and get the cash, especially if your home, and last time I checked retained have to sort of make an effort or get the boot.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 28, 2008, 11:21:33 AM
You're soprt of right pumprescue, There is definitely a clause in the employmen contract saying retainees must make it to the station for 50% of the calls, and ride for 50% of the times they make it, but as far as I can see it is up to the individual stations to enforce these.

If getting your quota of firies is difficult, then you are going to be less likely to give someone the flick, as opposed to a station that has a waiting list for people to join (not actually sure if there is a station in this category at the moment tho??)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on June 28, 2008, 01:30:05 PM
I doubt its up to the stations as to keeping you or not, the HQ see's the pay sheets, if your number hasn't clocked on for month after month then I think you will be asked to turn your gear in or give a good reasson why you aren't around !
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on June 28, 2008, 02:26:58 PM
20:34:00 27-06-08 I know an Auto Alarm Call is boring to some BUT 4 crew to any fire call is not acceptable. MFS Pt Augusta Response
Maybe even money is no incentive these days?

Some retained that I have talked to, have stated that the money you get for responding is less than the money they get from their business/paid-work.

So I think they are more like volunteers because the money incentive is not there.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on June 28, 2008, 04:42:21 PM
At something like $21 an hour, most blue collared jobs dont pay that much.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 28, 2008, 07:15:29 PM
But depending on where you are most blue collared jobs can guarantee more than 2 or three hours worth of work a week...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on June 28, 2008, 10:18:35 PM
this is true
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on June 29, 2008, 02:42:33 PM
Group Officers: Elliot 34 is non operational until further notice. Elliot 24 still non operational. Alerts operators be aware. Use VH MFS or Middleton for Port Elliot calls. Hopefully problem may be fixed within 24 hrs. PE Captain CFS Mundoo Group Officers Info

They can always get the Region Spare 34 from Coromandel Valley :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on June 29, 2008, 03:04:02 PM
Or a spare mfs appliance from somewhere?? LOL
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on June 29, 2008, 03:55:00 PM
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on June 29, 2008, 08:26:56 PM
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)

Ahh negative to that, wouldn't be smart giving them a truck they haven't trained on or don't know the layout on, smartest thing would be to give them middleton 24 or Mt Compass 34 which that brigade would be familiar with. Or even a Victor group truck they have heaps of them sitting around doing nothing during winter.
But thats just my veiw, up to the GO's as to what they do.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firey9119 on June 29, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
1919072 18:47:39 29-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 29/06/08 18:46,RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE,ROSS SMITH SECONDARY,HAMPSTEAD RD,NORTHFIELD MAP 94 M 11 TG182,OBJECT THROWN THROUGH WINDOW NOW ON FIRE, BUILDING 2A FROM POLICE SEC,ADL205 31 OAK303 PPT371 APK361 MFS Car 31


unhappy student maybe?? :-o :-o :-o :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on June 30, 2008, 03:59:28 PM
Quote
1919072 18:47:39 29-06-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC049 29/06/08 18:46,RESPOND SCHOOL FIRE,ROSS SMITH SECONDARY,HAMPSTEAD RD,NORTHFIELD MAP 94 M 11 TG182,OBJECT THROWN THROUGH WINDOW NOW ON FIRE, BUILDING 2A FROM POLICE SEC,ADL205 31 OAK303 PPT371 APK361 MFS Car 31


unhappy student maybe??   

the teachers threaten to up the ante in their wage claims............. :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on June 30, 2008, 04:44:36 PM
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)

Ahh negative to that, wouldn't be smart giving them a truck they haven't trained on or don't know the layout on, smartest thing would be to give them middleton 24 or Mt Compass 34 which that brigade would be familiar with. Or even a Victor group truck they have heaps of them sitting around doing nothing during winter.
But thats just my veiw, up to the GO's as to what they do.


hahaha an expected response...
"they need a truck... no they cant borrow one of ours..."

cant have a truck they havent been trained on or know the layout of...? Goolwa 34 is a real tricky truck is it? being a basic standard issue 34? honestly...... sometimes i sit here and laugh all day...

hmmm, borrow middleton 24....? and therefore empty middleton station. doh, great plan....

looks like coro has given up that 34 judging by some pager messages today...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on June 30, 2008, 05:34:21 PM
totally agree with u OMGWTF......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on June 30, 2008, 09:14:10 PM
or perhaps the simplest fastest idea... borrow an appliance from goolwa ;)

Ahh negative to that, wouldn't be smart giving them a truck they haven't trained on or don't know the layout on, smartest thing would be to give them middleton 24 or Mt Compass 34 which that brigade would be familiar with. Or even a Victor group truck they have heaps of them sitting around doing nothing during winter.
But thats just my veiw, up to the GO's as to what they do.

hahaha an expected response...
"they need a truck... no they cant borrow one of ours..."

cant have a truck they havent been trained on or know the layout of...? Goolwa 34 is a real tricky truck is it? being a basic standard issue 34? honestly...... sometimes i sit here and laugh all day...

hmmm, borrow middleton 24....? and therefore empty middleton station. doh, great plan....

looks like coro has given up that 34 judging by some pager messages today...

Middletons given their truck up to port elliot a few times before!!!! it's only 5km either side of middleton to goolwa or port elliot!!!!! And they have the group tanker in the station.

And sorry like alot of brigades we've loaned our truck out to crews not from our brigade and it comes back stuffed.

And yes myself and another member picked that truck up from coro tonight.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on July 01, 2008, 02:20:08 AM
Middletons given their truck up to port elliot a few times before!!!! it's only 5km either side of middleton to goolwa or port elliot!!!!! And they have the group tanker in the station.

And sorry like alot of brigades we've loaned our truck out to crews not from our brigade and it comes back stuffed.

And yes myself and another member picked that truck up from coro tonight.

yes, im aware of the geographical location of middleton and its surrounding brigades, still your not really fixing a problem by removing there fire appliance...

3 appliances, 3 stations, answer seems obvious to me... the cfs attitude of its "our appliance" needs to go, there all state resources.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on July 01, 2008, 05:34:45 AM
you both have very good points.

Yes they are state resources, people need to let go.

but on the other hand some brigades spend hours putting TLC into the trucks in their station and unless the brigade on the other hand have the same morales then the truck receives no care at all!

very interesting issue!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on July 01, 2008, 08:26:48 AM
Three things
1, I see merit in both sides of the debate, we were asked to consider lending our primary rescue to another unit until their new one was built & then we would get ours back (I was in another unit at the time but advised the members that this idea sucked!) Eventhough they are a state resource, why should one unit be messed around for the sake of a couple of months? And why should they the get their old one back (which was one of the first in the fleet)instead of a suitable replacement?
2, Why have two appliances gone down in the same brigade with problems that seem major in the middle of the "off peak" season?
3, As the neighbours seem very close why not "man up" on the surrounding brigades trucks (which will cover their area)until theirs are repaired?
Don't know just seems simple issue to fix to me.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on July 01, 2008, 09:01:35 AM
It seems that the simplest issues are never easy to fix...
Maybe we should discuss this idea further??
Or just get over it??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 01, 2008, 11:23:01 AM
Port Elliot 24 has gone down with a serious plumbing issue ( i Beleive corrosion has led to a hole in the plumbing) which has been considered too expensive to fix. They are earmarked for a new 34 in july?? And their 34 went down with a plumbing issue as well.

Both of these trucks are pushing very close to 20 years of age.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 01, 2008, 11:44:00 AM
has the issue been passed onto group then further onto Region?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 01, 2008, 12:22:23 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC057 01/07/08 11:50,RESPOND Fire Alarm,67-69 WAYMOUTH ST,ADELAIDE MAP A A 11 TG182,,STM401 BLP211 ADL204 ADL205 ADL206 AD2090 PPT371 41

Numbers...eat ya heart out...


This has turned out to be a Flooding/Salvage incident. That turned out to be a...i lost track.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on July 01, 2008, 02:08:47 PM
Eat my heart out?

Wow...

Its called investigating why the sprinkler system is running, BEFORE shitting yourself and calling in the reinforcements. Its not hard!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 01, 2008, 02:14:44 PM
haha....sorry i was going by a previous post of yours a few months back...about MFS's alarm responses.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on July 01, 2008, 02:19:43 PM
Yeah? I can write really small as well :P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 01, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
Good on you, moving onnnnn  :wink:

13:54:32   01-07-08   (65) THIS IS A LONG TEST MASSAGE FROM STUART AT LINK 0123456789 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ END OF TEST. Link GRN Test Pager

Nice Spam link, wonder whats up?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on July 01, 2008, 02:38:52 PM
That was very clever Numbers :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 18, 2008, 05:43:55 PM
FOR INFORMATION WEATHER CONDITIONS MAY CAUSE SEA LEVELS TO BE HIGHER THAN NORMAL OVER THE WEEKEND POSSIBLY HALF A METRE HIGHER THAN THE HIGHEST TIDE OF THE YEAR FROM CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on July 18, 2008, 07:21:18 PM
FOR INFORMATION WEATHER CONDITIONS MAY CAUSE SEA LEVELS TO BE HIGHER THAN NORMAL OVER THE WEEKEND POSSIBLY HALF A METRE HIGHER THAN THE HIGHEST TIDE OF THE YEAR FROM CAPTAIN CFS Salisbury Info

look out salisbury....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 18, 2008, 07:24:25 PM
nah rather look out glenelg  AGAIN.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on July 18, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
nah rather look out glenelg  AGAIN.

Nope, not in recent times ... toooo many failsafes on the patawalonga and westlake gates now.

Check http://www.dwlbc.sa.gov.au/urban/patawalonga/system/index.html & click on the current levels (warning it takes a long time to update the chart to realtime data)

The tide chart at http://www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/tides/MAPS/adelaide.shtml does show 2.67m on 20th July at 1747 at Outer Harbor. Basically above 2.6m high tides from tonight to Monday night.

More interested in St Kilda, railyards west of city, showgrounds, torrens rivers and associated creek, airport, etc , for metropolitan flooding.

Because it is still dry, I think the broken water mains is the main flood risk.    :lol:

Also, not much wind forecast to create a storm tide or rain to have large outflows through the estuaries or pipes (eg Onkaparinga River).

Sounds like a lot of fishing could be done this weekend......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 18, 2008, 07:48:14 PM
may have been refering to this?
IDS20235
AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT - BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
SOUTH AUSTRALIA REGIONAL OFFICE

STORM TIDE ADVICE for Gulf St Vincent and Spencer Gulf
Issued at 4:05 pm on Friday, 18 July 2008

The weather conditions are expected to cause sea levels to be higher than
indicated by tide tables during the weekend. Sea levels along parts of Spencer
Gulf and Gulf St Vincent are likely to be around half a metre or more higher
than the highest tide of the year with the afternoon/evening high tides on
Saturday and Sunday.

At the Port Adelaide Outer Harbor tide gauge, sea levels between 3.2 to 3.5
metres [local gauge datum] are possible with the high tides on both Saturday and
Sunday. 

This advice will be updated at or before 10:00 am Saturday.

Note: A change in the definition of the datum occurred on 1 January 2001. A tide
level of 3.5 metres in 2001 is equivalent to a tide level of 3.77 metres on the
old scale.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on July 18, 2008, 08:40:39 PM
Surfs up dudes  8-) :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on July 25, 2008, 06:07:42 PM
1909193 16:50:35 25-07-08 NO MORE CALLS DUTY OFFICER IS AWARE MFS IN CFFS AREA WITHOUT NOTIFCATION FROM DUTY OFFICER CFS Dalkeith Info
Is this a real problem?
Don't rip my head off with replys - just curious as we all have "turf problems" & they are the full time service & everyone doesn't always meet the standard 24/7.
so whats the big deal?
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 25, 2008, 06:36:58 PM
If it happened in reverse heads would roll!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on July 25, 2008, 06:58:15 PM
Yeah true,however it happens to us all - for example early last Wednesday morning a major MVA happened deep within our turf but we didn't get responded ADL fire called Moorook, Glossop & Barmera CFS, Barmera SES and ambulances as far away as Renmark yet Berri SAMFS & us weren't invited! (I know it's not strickly MFS area but they were the closest)
I know for a fact that if the shoe was on the other foot those concerned would cut sick :-D (It's happened before & at least we had the courtisy of telling them!) I'm not sure if the new unit manager will do anything- nolonger not my problem.
All I was asking is this such a big deal? As they have trouble getting crews occasionally.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 25, 2008, 07:34:55 PM
maybe we could think about it the otherway,  if we dont get responded..its a good thing because we can go about our lives as normal....

They gets enough calls as it is...  dont know why they need to have a hissy fit...  Is it just getting to there heads???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on July 25, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
Not wrong Zippy, it was filtered freezing last Wednesday morning :-D I wasn't upset we were not called was a warmer in bed :-D
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 25, 2008, 10:22:47 PM
I suppose it just comes down to common courtesy and correct procedure i.e notifying the respective service of the event.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 26, 2008, 04:09:17 PM
I wouldn't get to concerned about it, are those same 100 people ringing up going to turn out so they don't consistently fail to respond, CFS people like that really annoy me, they are quick to carry on when something like this happens but you never see them when the truck needs to get out the door at 3am.
Who knows it could have been a road that led onto a CFS area, might have been a nothing call, why turn someone else out, just deal with. I am sure if 421 went to a call in 43's area they aren't going to ring each other and cry. Worry about getting out the door to the calls you DO get responded to  :x
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 28, 2008, 12:04:43 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response

Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response

In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 029 on July 28, 2008, 01:13:30 PM
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research

12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response

12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response



no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 01:51:41 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response

Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response

In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.

is it going to the dogs at the moment???  lol...thats the third brigade to be walked over now...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 28, 2008, 02:03:35 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 28/07/08 10:57,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,HEASLIP RD,EDINBURGH MAP 50 G 9 TG182,CNR OF EDINBURGH CAR VS LIGHT POLE,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response

Stop call! MFS in attendance before CFS recieved call CFS Salisbury Response

In the crews defence I heard Salisbury MFS state that it was CFS area and had they been called to comms,the answer being NO and the subsequent page.

is it going to the dogs at the moment???  lol...thats the third brigade to be walked over now...
must be. anyone care to expand on why the mfs are on passive duty? that boms system we work off must be 1st class  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on July 28, 2008, 02:04:20 PM
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 28, 2008, 02:05:57 PM
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
As stated before if the shoe were on the other foot, watch the sparks fly then!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 02:08:56 PM
Quote
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...

yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be.   they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on July 28, 2008, 02:11:15 PM
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...
As stated before if the shoe were on the other foot, watch the sparks fly then!

You mean if CFS responded into MFS area then Stopped the MFS because it was a nothing call there would be sparks?  I highly doubt there would be any issue - most of the SAMFS guys I've met have no problems with being logical.

Quote
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...

yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be.   they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.

And a whole lot of people on this forum evidently...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 02:14:44 PM
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And a whole lot of people on this forum evidently...

only because we observe these things occuring, thanks to the internet...putting our feet in there shoes i would be getting less motivated to respond to real jobs, if there is another service that can easily do the same job....scheiße would then hit the fan when that 'other service' isnt available...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on July 28, 2008, 03:03:40 PM
Jesus, I still don't get why there is an issue beyond "You got to have some fun and we didn't" It has happened to me before, where we have attended a job, and on our way back to our station, we have come across another job, a few hundred meters from the local CFS station. It was a minor MVA, your usual "Apply medical treatment untill the ambos arrive" gig. Our pump had things quite in hand, yet the 'other' station blew up as they weren't invited to the job. We gave their captain a courtesy call once we had returned to station, he was not a happy boy.

Given that the incident is delt with in a timely and professional manner, what is the problem?  You see people cracking the shits about minor MVA's and bin fires etc etc - I don't understand it.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 28, 2008, 03:16:01 PM
So if a CFS crew were in MFS area, came across a job, dealt with it and went home without notifying them, it would be ok. I dont think so. Have been down that road, we notified then on return to station (all it involved was about 5 m2 grass, comms cracked the shits and sent an appliance out to the area to "check it out" So there would be no issues? Bullshit.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 28, 2008, 03:23:50 PM
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research

12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response

12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response



no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though 

Glendambo don't have GRN coverage, hence the lack of callsign in there. ITs all phone calls out there.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on July 28, 2008, 03:29:33 PM
What would happen if the CFS truck was way out of area say Piccadilly CFS visiting the airport and we came across a nice bin fire on the way home Which we see no MFS in attendance yet so we call it in to Ad fire and get to work. Is that not our duty?

Or should we just drive past and go not our turf, and then when it spreads into exposures and becomes a factory fire.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 28, 2008, 03:31:43 PM
Quote
Ah christ, as long as a truck turns up...

yeh correct numbers, its just they are playing around with the standard response's when they shouldnt be.   they only seem to anger the respective brigades involved.

Can I ask how you have proof they are playing around with the responses ?

I don't think the Comms staff go out of their way to mess with responses.

If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway.

Also last time I checked BOMS isn't smart enough to work out where the middle of the road is, the Salisbury MFS crew did the right thing and realised its in CFS area and told comms, and comms turned out CFS.

I think you all need to worry about making sure your own brigades get on the road, I reckon most people's brigades consistently fail to respond or take 10 mins plus to turn out. You only have to watch the pager site, how many "more crews" and then defaults do you see. I think MFS should be treated nicely as they are covering a LOT of backsides at the moment, look at the major brigades they are covering North and South, I would be very nice to them. If they want to push it you might have lots of spare time to go fishing !
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on July 28, 2008, 03:37:10 PM
"If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway"

How do you know they could not turn out? They could of rolled a truck and were wanting more people in station for radio's, second appliance etc, there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on July 28, 2008, 03:42:09 PM
"If you look on the pager site Salisbury CFS couldn't turn out anyway"

How do you know they could not turn out? They could of rolled a truck and were wanting more people in station for radio's, second appliance etc, there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!
Good point, none of those pages i can see say "we cant turn out". You area brilliant pumprescue, at reading something into something thats not there.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 28, 2008, 03:45:12 PM
Yeah no worries guys, if only you knew how much I know.......... :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 029 on July 28, 2008, 03:53:10 PM
thanks about glandambo but i reckon i have seen a page for them once beroe but could be mistaken

how many people on here understand the new pager codes ie coob00 mnsh42

im still trying to work it out i know that 00 is fire appliance
19 is fire rescue 029 is ses rescue (includes RCR) 020 is ses rescue (no RCR)

where can i get a list of codes so that i can educate my self and team so we know what is comming and where it is from????? 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 28, 2008, 03:56:41 PM
CFS/SES Codes

00 Fire
19 Fire and/or Rescue
20 SES Rescue/Salvage
28 Fire and/or Hazmat
29 SES RCR/Rescue/Salvage
42 Fire and/or Bulk Water Carrier
50 SES State duty officer
55 CFS State Air Desk
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 28, 2008, 04:00:44 PM
There was a callsign used for Glendambo, but it doesn't go anywhere, so no longer used.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on July 28, 2008, 04:20:46 PM


 there is much more to every situation than what you read on the pager site!



A good bit of advice perhaps a few ppl on this site seem to forget.... But then again what would we talk about then?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 029 on July 28, 2008, 05:14:17 PM
thanks zippy
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on July 28, 2008, 06:29:41 PM
What would happen if the CFS truck was way out of area say Piccadilly CFS visiting the airport and we came across a nice bin fire on the way home Which we see no MFS in attendance yet so we call it in to Ad fire and get to work. Is that not our duty?

Or should we just drive past and go not our turf, and then when it spreads into exposures and becomes a factory fire.......

We were bringing our 24P back from NE Isuzu one day when we came across a MVA outside Mitsubishies at Lonsdale. We assisted with patient care and making the cars safe until SAAS arrived, and in the meantime our LT got on to SHQ who turned out St Mary's.  When they got there they were surprised we turned them out at all and couldn't care if we hadn't!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on July 28, 2008, 06:47:12 PM
thanks about glandambo but i reckon i have seen a page for them once beroe but could be mistaken

how many people on here understand the new pager codes ie coob00 mnsh42

im still trying to work it out i know that 00 is fire appliance
19 is fire rescue 029 is ses rescue (includes RCR) 020 is ses rescue (no RCR)

where can i get a list of codes so that i can educate my self and team so we know what is comming and where it is from????? 

This will also help you out with codes :wink: http://users.chariot.net.au/~mattb/scan/Brigade%20short%20name%20codes%20final.pdf
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 029 on July 28, 2008, 07:32:13 PM
thanks sa firey
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 49194 on July 28, 2008, 08:10:59 PM
12:04:47 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
1916034 12:04:43 28-07-08 CB81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Coober Pedy
1924962 12:03:33 28-07-08 WM81 Cat2 Stuart Hwy, Glendambo POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research

12:05:24 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919232 12:05:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:04,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,MVA 80 KMS NTH ON STUART HWY - 2 CARS HE,AD ON,WOOM19 CFS Woomera Response

12:08:33 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES North Region
1919288 12:08:32 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS R4 HQ Response
1918209 12:08:32 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 SES Coober Pedy Response
1919232 12:08:30 28-07-08 WES: *CFSRES: CFS CREW REQUIRED RESPOND TO STATION 28-07-08 12:08 CFS Woomera Response
1919288 12:08:22 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS R4 HQ Response
1919292 12:08:20 28-07-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC039 28/07/08 12:07,RESPOND RCR,GLENDAMBO ,GLENDAMBO MAP 000 0 0 TG070,2 CAR HEAD ON 80 KMS NORTH OF GLENDAMBO,COOB00 CPD029 CFS Coober Pedy Response



no glendambo fair enough long trip for all though 

It was a long drive! Sent 2 Ambulances from Woomera, got back on station around 1700.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on July 28, 2008, 09:55:05 PM
Guys there seems some interservice crap again so I thought I would share with you a task that SAMFS, CFS & SES (Berri, Monash Tanker, Berri boat, latter joined by Renmark Boat). So share the love  :wink: cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on July 29, 2008, 09:45:59 AM
Yeah good mate. Initially the SAMFS guys attacked form the top. We were the requested to launch the boat to assist with preventing the spread along the river bank. We decided to deploy our portable pump rather than the flotation (more reliable & quieter). Once the spread to the south was contained, it was decided to place the ROSA down on the river bank (20-30 mtrs away) & relay to 609 which then had an almost endless supply of water, they deployed hp lines to blackout from above. In the mean time 601 & Chaffey tanker were at the northern end to deal with that. It was decided to speed things up a bit another boat was required, so Renmark was requested. Once the boat crews had stopped the spread, the firefighters left the boats and proceeded to blackout using the portable pumps. Task was completed at about 20:00 hrs. An excellent job by all & it gave me an opportunity to say a goodbye to people I might not see before I leave  :cry:
Now before anyone asks, it was decided by the DGO on scene to use the resources already on site rather than calling "other people".
It was a pleasure to be a part of the job.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firey9119 on July 29, 2008, 08:12:35 PM
this site is so good for a giggle!!!

correct me if im wrong (i dont think im wrong) when mfs get a call the put in the suburb then street and what it is or in reverse,

there is no need to entry appliance (cfs or mfs) as we all have gone over our responce area and told/corrected who or what goes where

in this car when the comms officer put in heaslip road road it would have come up with eather salisbury or virgina responce with maybe mfs back up.

so how then if the comms officers dont change the responces did neather get responded???? :? :? :? :?


ill tell you why comms officers have no idea.!!



my ideas only
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on July 29, 2008, 08:19:40 PM
If you take a closer look at the mystical MFS cad software,  it is easily possible to change the "recommended" response.  i believe that ability has to exist simply to add extra brigades/appliances, or change obviously wrong responses.

Imo, they do an alright job,  but like everything,  they could be better.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on July 30, 2008, 05:29:56 PM
Trust me, if you put that address in the MFS dispatch system, it comes up MFS only, as it abutts the Airforce base. If there is an issue take it up through the usual channels, its right on the CFS/MFS boundary.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 02, 2008, 10:20:26 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC023 02/08/08 09:41,RESPOND To,PICCADILLY RD,PICCADILLY MAP 145 H 2 TG126,CONTACT MR GEOFF GREENOW 0411 616 016, A,T NETBALL CLUB RE AN ISSUE WITH TOILETS,RESULTING IN A PUBLIC HYGIENE ISSUE,PCCY00 CFS Piccadilly Response


WTF?  Dont plumbers work on saturdays? or at least the SES? haha just kidding
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 02, 2008, 10:27:49 AM
If its a big enough issue to call the Fire Brigade, dare I suggest that it should be a Hazmat job? Or atleast have a single Hazmat station turned out?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 02, 2008, 10:35:16 AM
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 02, 2008, 10:39:41 AM
And there I went, jumping the gun, forgetting all about the community assistance aspect.

I'm too jaded.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on August 02, 2008, 12:22:15 PM
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job

Back in my day, everyone knew how to use a garden hose...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 02, 2008, 12:37:07 PM
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job
Back in my day, everyone knew how to use a garden hose...


Water restrictions, you environmental vandal!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on August 02, 2008, 02:17:44 PM
apparently it was just to fill the water tank after a plumbing problem...so i guess its a plumbers job
Back in my day, everyone knew how to use a garden hose...
Water restrictions, you environmental vandal!

and I have heard of CFS brigades being told off for squirting water during training while the drought/restrictions exist....so now they use the CFS to bypass the water restrictions ???? It sounds like the SES being called to trim a 'significant tree' because it might drop a limb, so that the owners can bypass the council restrictions...filtered   :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 02, 2008, 06:50:33 PM
Roger crap extinguished using one HP line :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 02, 2008, 07:56:43 PM
REGION 1 CONDUCTING RECRUITMENT STRATGIES TRAINING MON.NIGHT 8PM START AT KANGARAILLA STATION ALL INTERESTED PERSON.WELCOME - GTO CFS Mawson Group Info
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on August 02, 2008, 11:29:31 PM
LYNDOCH & CONCORDIA 34'S AT INCIDENT. SINGLE VEHICLE LOST CONTROL AND HIT FENCE. NO FUEL OR LPG LEAK. POLICE ON SCENE. LYNDOCH STATION

Thanks for the notice, why dont they list everything that isnt on scene? We've had discussions before about them saying about what is happening, and it seems somewhat reasonable, if not annoying that they send messages about everything that is going on, and now there are messages about what they are not finding on scene...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on August 03, 2008, 02:12:28 AM
footy, personally i think its rubbish that they put out all these pager messages.... but considering they were turned out to a vehicle leaking gas, maybe that info is relevant ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 03, 2008, 01:45:20 PM
And if we didn't have a pager scanner, you wouldn't have your nose out of joint right now.

If your brigade is the one that does it and you don't like it, take it up with the capt/comms officer.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Blue on August 04, 2008, 07:56:29 PM
RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,FARTCH ST,MT GAMBIER MAP 0 0 0 TG195,FOR SALE SIGN ON FIRE CALL FROM NO.5,SAIR55 MTG701

Oooh, hot property!  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 04, 2008, 08:34:32 PM
Get out.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on August 07, 2008, 01:38:36 PM
Did this:

MFS: *CFSRES INC020 07/08/08 09:59,RESPOND FUEL SPILLAGE,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,LARGE OIL SPILL ON ROAD BETWEEN,YANKALILLA & MYPO. ASSIST YANKALILLA,YANK19

Have anything to do with this:

MFS: *CFSRES INC024 07/08/08 10:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,OUTSIDE YANKAPONGA,YANK19 MYPN00
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 07, 2008, 01:49:28 PM
oh dear..

Oil Spills Galore this past winter  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 07, 2008, 04:40:12 PM
15:27:13 07-08-08 Anyone available to present at MART course Brukunga this Sun please phone Dave ASAP SAAS Group (SOT)

MART went quiet for a while ey?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 07, 2008, 07:05:07 PM
Did this:

MFS: *CFSRES INC020 07/08/08 09:59,RESPOND FUEL SPILLAGE,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,LARGE OIL SPILL ON ROAD BETWEEN,YANKALILLA & MYPO. ASSIST YANKALILLA,YANK19

Have anything to do with this:

MFS: *CFSRES INC024 07/08/08 10:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MAIN SOUTH RD,YANKALILLA MAP 0 O 0 TG144,OUTSIDE YANKAPONGA,YANK19 MYPN00

Certainly did Footy, 2 cars involved in that one and another one just out of yamkalilla earleir on
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on August 09, 2008, 11:18:21 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 09/08/08 03:00,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,43 LIGHTHOUSE DR,HALLETT COVE MAP 164 F
12 TG182,P3 - CAR INTO FRONT ROOM OF HOUSE - NO F,URTHER RISK,CDN439 NOA029 OHH421
MFS: CREWS NOT REQUIRED AT HALLET COVE - STOP CALL
MFS: *CFSRES INC005 09/08/08 04:25,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,43 LIGHTHOUSE DR,HALLETT COVE MAP 164 F
12,P3 - NOW REQUIRED ON SCENE FROM POLICE,NOA029
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 09/08/08 08:24,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,44 LIGHTHOUSE DR,HALLETT COVE MAP 164 F
12 TG182,P3 CAR INTO HOUSE CALL FROM SAPOL,CDN439 NOA029 OHH421

I love it when these jobs happen, MFS say SES not required, police overide and say they are or had the MFS pissed off by then and bits started falling down? Also was the later job the same job as earlier or a completely different one?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on August 09, 2008, 01:58:52 PM
Maybe the crews turned out to number 43, couldnt see anything then went home, but didnt realise the dirty big car sticking out of the side of the wall next door... lol
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 09, 2008, 02:05:50 PM
or the house is now located at number 44 due to the big shunt from the car?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on August 09, 2008, 02:17:10 PM
That would mean it has been shunted across the road :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on August 10, 2008, 09:30:52 PM
Quite simple - no fire no smoke no entrapment - SAMFS/CFSSA not interested!
Big hole in wall, looks dangerous, residents concerned that further damage may occur - SAPOL interested! (think public safety :wink: ).
Just remember that SESSA are the Lead Agency for structural damage therefore any decision to Stop a crew should be left to the SES DO.
If it were me I would be putting in a grievance form, so correct protocols can be developed & followed. And at the end of the day SAPOL are the coordinating authority so before any team is stood down or Stop called wouldn't it make sense to ask them first?
Just my thoughts
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 10, 2008, 09:49:28 PM
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily.  Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances.  For the rest,  its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on August 10, 2008, 09:56:29 PM
Yep a very stupid decision that was made by our service chiefs when GRN was introduced!
And the same situation will continue until the heads of the Fire services officially acknowledge the role of the SESSA & the SESSA start planning for stuff other than USARCat2.
Similar organisations in NSW can talk to each other with a push of a button on their GRN handsets.
It is a very poor state of affairs when we can't talk to each oth by radio!.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on August 10, 2008, 10:05:51 PM
Quite simple - no fire no smoke no entrapment - SAMFS/CFSSA not interested!
Big hole in wall, looks dangerous, residents concerned that further damage may occur - SAPOL interested! (think public safety :wink: ).
Just remember that SESSA are the Lead Agency for structural damage therefore any decision to Stop a crew should be left to the SES DO.


Not so Ken.

Structural damage equates to being a USAR, which SAMFS & SASES are both listed as control agencies for.

Your point would remain valid however if this were a SACFS/SASES response.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on August 10, 2008, 10:13:54 PM
Yep fair call :oops: However I have noticed that the fire services tend not to worry about temp shoring if there is no entrapment where as SES will shore to prevent further damage.
But this seems to be happening a fair bit, hopefully the problem will be soughted sooner rather than latter.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on August 10, 2008, 11:08:37 PM
Good luck getting anything sorted with the MFS, anyways all i wanted to know if it was the same job cause they happened a fair while after each other, ie 3am amd 824am and they dont carry the same incident number either.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 11, 2008, 11:09:54 AM
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily.  Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances.  For the rest,  its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.

That is because Sturt are the airstrip crew for Cherry Gardens Zippy :wink:

Easy way to solve that is tell Adelaide Fire to get them to go to a Multi Agency Talkgroup eg TG037 for communicating with us.Alternatively have a STOP CALL page sent via Adelaide Fire :wink:   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 11, 2008, 12:08:05 PM
And the same situation will continue until the heads of the Fire services officially acknowledge the role of the SESSA & the SESSA start planning for stuff other than USARCat2.
The fire services acknowledged the SES's role with storm damage, and look where that got the community (atleast in the metro area). We now have a degraded capability to respond to storm and tempest incidents, with jobs backing up until the SES decided to invite the fire services to help, by which time there is already a ridiculous backlog of work to be done.


Similar organisations in NSW can talk to each other with a push of a button on their GRN handsets.
It is a very poor state of affairs when we can't talk to each oth by radio!.
cheers
I was under the impression that this was an issue country wide, with most agencies unable to talk to each other unless by local arrangement or on a multi-agency/disaster recovery channel?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on August 11, 2008, 02:41:48 PM
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily.  Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances.  For the rest,  its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.

CFS is well aware of these problems, and has tried to address them, but given it is an inter-agency thing it all takes time (far too long but that's govt!).  Hopefully things will change in the future (still talking at least a year or more away though).

That is because Sturt are the airstrip crew for Cherry Gardens Zippy :wink:

Easy way to solve that is tell Adelaide Fire to get them to go to a Multi Agency Talkgroup eg TG037 for communicating with us.Alternatively have a STOP CALL page sent via Adelaide Fire :wink:   

037 is simplex so not that one, just request a MA talkgroup and you will be allocated one.  I have heard group officers ask Adelaide Fire for one in the past when there were multiple SES and CFS operating in the group area, it works well and should be done more often.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 11, 2008, 02:44:57 PM
TG037 should work in the same manner as TG182 for MFS...you just need to be within a reasonable distance for simplex UHF communication to reach your radio.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 11, 2008, 03:20:57 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/08/08 14:31,RESPOND RCR,REGENCY RD,KILKENNY MAP 105 C 5 TG182,CNR TORRENS RD,18 WHEEL SEMI ROLLOVER,41

Dang!..and supposedly driver trapped.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on August 11, 2008, 03:27:17 PM
18 wheeler? 

whatever happened to a 40 footer?  DAMN YANKEES!!

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on August 11, 2008, 03:31:54 PM
Maybe you are right Numbers but when I was in a NSW SES vehicle the local guy explained that if you wanted to talk to RFS push this button, NSWFB push this button, CB this button etc. Also rescue is despatched by police comms (VKG?), so interoperatability would seem more likely. And you are right Multi agency is great when its used, just takes a bit of planning to use it (i.e need to contact SAPOL comms) & people seem a bit reluctant to use it.
On the storm/ tempest thing it's legislated so the fire services acknowledging the role didn't need to happen - remember it's the control agency so any agency can be on the front line. But you are right again it's senior service members protecting turf. And thats all about protecting your funding base :wink:
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on August 11, 2008, 05:42:23 PM
Jeez Chook (VKG)?.............havent heard that sorta thing since Paul Cronin on Matlock police back in the mid to late 70s, when he'd be belting along on his police bike uttering the classic line "VKC to Shirl" over the police radio, bout that time mum would come in the room and tell me its time to putya jimjams on and go to bed! :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 11, 2008, 06:19:05 PM
We don't use the alarm response protocol anymore, its simply "Calling all cars, Calling all cars!"
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on August 11, 2008, 07:43:35 PM
Jeez mate you & I must be the same age :-D I remember that too!
But seriously, I'm sure thats what they call police comms - I filtered you not!
(Met Paul Cronin once at a show in Melbourne when Iwas a kid :wink: )
However I will double check & get back with the correct answer.
And here it is straight from the NSW State Rescue policy 2007 "Police Communications (VKG) Rescue Coordination Officer(RCO) as soon as possible."
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 12, 2008, 12:31:06 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 11/08/08 14:31,RESPOND RCR,REGENCY RD,KILKENNY MAP 105 C 5 TG182,CNR TORRENS RD,18 WHEEL SEMI ROLLOVER,41

Dang!..and supposedly driver trapped.

Not so Zippy I was there pictures you know where :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 12, 2008, 12:33:10 AM
Bit hard, when ya cant contact the SES crews/appliances directly easily.  Sturt SES seems to be the only SES brigade that have a SACFS/MFS radio on there appliances.  For the rest,  its just directly to Adelaide Fire to communicate information.

CFS is well aware of these problems, and has tried to address them, but given it is an inter-agency thing it all takes time (far too long but that's govt!).  Hopefully things will change in the future (still talking at least a year or more away though).

That is because Sturt are the airstrip crew for Cherry Gardens Zippy :wink:

Easy way to solve that is tell Adelaide Fire to get them to go to a Multi Agency Talkgroup eg TG037 for communicating with us.Alternatively have a STOP CALL page sent via Adelaide Fire :wink:   

037 is simplex so not that one, just request a MA talkgroup and you will be allocated one.  I have heard group officers ask Adelaide Fire for one in the past when there were multiple SES and CFS operating in the group area, it works well and should be done more often.


Errrr if you read my post it was an example not gospel :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on August 12, 2008, 12:10:12 PM
A good example of fixed alarms coming true

1909187 11:02:24 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 12/08/08 11:02,RESPOND ALARM 35/025,ANGLE VALE VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTRE,121 HEATHSLIP RD,ANGLE VALE MAP TG102,FIP NORTH ENTRANCE TO FOODLAND,,DALK19 VIRG19 CFS Para Group Officers Response

1909188 11:05:31 12-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 12/08/08 11:05,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,SHOP11 HEASLIP RD,ANGLE VALE MAP 31 E 9 TG102,CALL FROM PREMISES. CONFIRMED FIRE IN HA,IR SALON. 121 HEATHSLIP ROAD,DALK19 VIRG19 CFS Dalkeith Response



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 029 on August 12, 2008, 01:07:23 PM
safireservice

it was the same job as far as i know he was a hot topic at a course on the weekend

yes there was structure damage and yes there was a need for the SES and the incident is being investigated as to why a stop was put on norlunga
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on August 13, 2008, 05:46:22 PM
1908036 17:13:37 13-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC042 13/08/08 17:13,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,138 MORPHETT RD,GLENGOWRIE MAP 140 P 3 TG182,CAR PUB MORPHETT ARMS HOTEL,MIT020 STM409 CPK411 SES Metro South Response

1924962 17:13:15 13-08-08 M171 Cat2 Os138 Morphett Rd, Glengowrie 140 P3 SAAS Road Crash Research

Wrong entrance to the drive thru??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 13, 2008, 06:15:57 PM
And...

48 Contacted MFS & Police ComCen as Job details were again neglected to be sent through with task details SES Metro South Response


Ehhh....what more is there to know?  Theres a build impact..Car Vs Hotel...Morphett Arms Hotel.  Done..go!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 14, 2008, 08:05:46 AM
And there isn't unlimited space on the pagers, hence why we ring in !!

Trust me, sometimes what SAPOL say and what is ACTUALLY happening are very different. I can remember going to a call recently, comms said SAPOL advise just a fuel spill. we rock up, 2 persons trapped. But I guess there was a spillage, so they weren't entirley wrong.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 029 on August 14, 2008, 03:02:46 PM
just a few words like wall collapsed or shoring required can make all the difference in an SES response as to do they need extra gear

we get the other problem of CFS not reading the entire page

read details dont read who is coming so when its hamley bridge 19 (cant remember short code) and kap029 they dont read it

we rock up with all the bling on and find out we were never required and CFS defence is we didnt know you were comming you show them on the pager and they go oh sorry but mistakes happen and we all get over it

so drink a cup of cement and harden the .... up 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on August 14, 2008, 03:59:43 PM
And...

48 Contacted MFS & Police ComCen as Job details were again neglected to be sent through with task details SES Metro South Response



Someone needs a tissue hey... ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on August 14, 2008, 10:28:40 PM
And there isn't unlimited space on the pagers, hence why we ring in !!

Trust me, sometimes what SAPOL say and what is ACTUALLY happening are very different. I can remember going to a call recently, comms said SAPOL advise just a fuel spill. we rock up, 2 persons trapped. But I guess there was a spillage, so they weren't entirley wrong.

Does that usually mean the call came from SAPOL comcen, and hence will be as accurate as info from any other comcen?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 14, 2008, 10:48:35 PM
Many a times ive receieved a page saying "From Sapol"..majority of the crew thinks SAPOL is already on scene.  When the case is actually.."Information recieved by SAPOL Comcen".
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 15, 2008, 08:54:07 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 15/08/08 07:16,RESPOND To,DIESEL SPILL PRINCES HWY,TANTANOOLA MAP 000 0 0 TG231,5KM EAST OF KIMBERLY CLARK MILL,TANT00 MILL28 CFS Tantanoola Response

Can anybody see what i see?  Good stuff Adelaide Fire.  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on August 15, 2008, 10:10:44 AM
A bit like this one eh Zippy?

MFS: *CFSRES INC009 15/08/08 06:45,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,PHILLIP HWY & HOGARTH RD,ELIZABETH VALE MAP 61 P 9 TG182,FROM SAAS SPILLAGE ONLY,ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 15, 2008, 10:19:13 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on August 15, 2008, 11:36:18 AM
CFSRES INC025 15/08/08 10:32,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,7 OTAGA CT,NOARLUNGA DOWNS MAP 185 Q 15 TG134,,MRPH00 SEAF00 CDN431

MULTIPLE CALLS BEING RECEIVED FOR THIS JOB, GOING WELL APPARENTLY - LT1 Matthew Bonser

*CFSRES: EXTRA CREW REQUIRED RESPOND SEAFORD STATION 15-08-08 10:37

CFSRES INC025 15/08/08 10:38,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,7 OTAGA CT,NOARLUNGA DOWNS MAP 185 Q 15 TG134,MCLAREN VALE RESPOND, DEFAULT FOR MORHPH,ETT VALE,MCLV00 MRPH00

MFS: MCLAREN VALE ** STOP CALL** MORPHETT VALE NOW ACKNOWLEDGED

MRPH: *CFSRES: MORE CREW REQUIRED RESPOND M/ VALE STATION 15-08-08 10:38

going fire respond station - SEAFORD STATION

seen a fair bit on crewing issues on here lately...anyone know if this the case here or just a bit of confusion??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on August 15, 2008, 01:54:57 PM
There was a bit of confusion with this job, initially it was treated as CFS area, then it was changed to MFS area, then back to CFS area and finally they left it at MFS area - interestingly the CFS map books show it as being in CFS area. The house was pretty close to the boundary but the line goes through a paddock behind the houses not a house or road.

Morphett Vale and Seaford and MFS were on the initial page, Morphett Vale only had three crew at the four minute mark so we requested Mclaren Vale to respond. At the six minute mark Morphett Vale 24P responded with five crew, Seaford Pumper also responded. MFS arrived and upgraded the initial response so Morphett Vale 24 also responded with a crew and extra BA operators as well as an extra MFS pump.

House was going end to end when crews arrived, two BA operators from Morphett Vale teamed up with two from MFS to go in and do a primary search and exinguishment. Pretty much your standard house fire with lots of damage and an occupant with smoke inhalation. Happy Valley were also responded for a Change of Quarters to Morphett Vale to cover the Seaford and Morphett Vale areas.

In the end it was left with MFS as they wanted to claim it as their area and our guys were happy to leave them to overhaul all day with fire cause.

Standard level of confusion but at least we managed to get a couple of trucks out the door from our station, hopefully with our new batch of recruits now on the trucks things should be ok for us.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on August 15, 2008, 03:28:17 PM
14:49:13 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC033 15/08/08 14:47,RESPOND RCR,HAY RD,MEADOWS MAP 000 0 0 TG128,ON MT EPHRAM RD ONE PERSON ENTRAPPED LEG,S PINNED CAR VS,MDWS19 MBKR19 BKCR00

Have noticed this quite a bit lately. Are Meadows light on for trained operators (RCR)? Or just light on for crew in general?? Every MVA seems to be with Barker..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on August 15, 2008, 03:49:52 PM
Ive been told that at the moment they are unable to garaunee a rescue crew... and have done the responsible thing by organising all of there rescue/VA responses to include the second rescue on initial turnout.


Seems to have increased the workload of blackwood and mt barker dramatically.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on August 15, 2008, 03:55:26 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC010 15/08/08 07:16,RESPOND To,DIESEL SPILL PRINCES HWY,TANTANOOLA MAP 000 0 0 TG231,5KM EAST OF KIMBERLY CLARK MILL,TANT00 MILL28 CFS Tantanoola Response

Can anybody see what i see?  Good stuff Adelaide Fire.  :-)

I don't think i'm seeing what you are...
Am i being really slow or what?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 15, 2008, 04:03:23 PM
RESPOND To,DIESEL SPILL PRINCES HWY,TANTANOOLA

Diesel Spill in the "Street Number" Field of MFS-CAD.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 15, 2008, 05:34:38 PM
also wattle range ses instead of cfs were paged....although i dont believe the ses received the page....unless my pdw skipped a beat?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 15, 2008, 05:39:23 PM
This is where it gets confusing, when talking about CFS 28 in the callsign is Hazmat, just to make things clear as mud !
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on August 15, 2008, 07:30:50 PM
28 is CFS hazmat Camo, But Millicent didnt receive the page by the looks, hence the manual page turnout.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on August 15, 2008, 07:36:18 PM
There was a bit of confusion with this job, initially it was treated as CFS area, then it was changed to MFS area, then back to CFS area and finally they left it at MFS area - interestingly the CFS map books show it as being in CFS area. The house was pretty close to the boundary but the line goes through a paddock behind the houses not a house or road.

Morphett Vale and Seaford and MFS were on the initial page, Morphett Vale only had three crew at the four minute mark so we requested Mclaren Vale to respond. At the six minute mark Morphett Vale 24P responded with five crew, Seaford Pumper also responded. MFS arrived and upgraded the initial response so Morphett Vale 24 also responded with a crew and extra BA operators as well as an extra MFS pump.

House was going end to end when crews arrived, two BA operators from Morphett Vale teamed up with two from MFS to go in and do a primary search and exinguishment. Pretty much your standard house fire with lots of damage and an occupant with smoke inhalation. Happy Valley were also responded for a Change of Quarters to Morphett Vale to cover the Seaford and Morphett Vale areas.

In the end it was left with MFS as they wanted to claim it as their area and our guys were happy to leave them to overhaul all day with fire cause.

Standard level of confusion but at least we managed to get a couple of trucks out the door from our station, hopefully with our new batch of recruits now on the trucks things should be ok for us.

Sounds like ya did well in circumstance...well done
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Dave O on August 15, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
1908021 19:55:26 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC056 15/08/08 19:53,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MAIN RD,CHERRY GARDENS MAP 167 A 8 TG146,PERSONS CAR CAUGHT IN CAR PARK AT BLACK,WOOD GOLF CLUB. ADAM **********.,P3.,BKWD19 STT020 CHRY00

*scratches head*

Big response for a locked gate
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 15, 2008, 10:19:48 PM
1908021 19:55:26 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC056 15/08/08 19:53,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MAIN RD,CHERRY GARDENS MAP 167 A 8 TG146,PERSONS CAR CAUGHT IN CAR PARK AT BLACK,WOOD GOLF CLUB. ADAM **********.,P3.,BKWD19 STT020 CHRY00

*scratches head*

Big response for a locked gate

What a waste of resources, call security and pay the opening fee cretin :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 15, 2008, 10:39:44 PM
28 is CFS hazmat Camo, But Millicent didnt receive the page by the looks, hence the manual page turnout.

d'oh.....29 is ses!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on August 16, 2008, 12:10:13 AM
1908021 19:55:26 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC056 15/08/08 19:53,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MAIN RD,CHERRY GARDENS MAP 167 A 8 TG146,PERSONS CAR CAUGHT IN CAR PARK AT BLACK,WOOD GOLF CLUB. ADAM **********.,P3.,BKWD19 STT020 CHRY00

*scratches head*

Big response for a locked gate

What a waste of resources, call security and pay the opening fee cretin :roll:


Surely more to it than a locked gate.  If that's all it was, then why was ANY agency bothered, let alone Rescue, Pump and SES!!!  Maybe just Sapol to 'TIN' for being a dhead.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 16, 2008, 02:05:34 AM
Nope just a locked gate, someone needs a rocket for sending that out, what a joke....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on August 16, 2008, 10:09:19 AM
This may have been asked before- but what trips the " SAAS Road Crash Research" page?
1924962 00:09:15 16-08-08 BA178 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Road Crash Research
1924962 00:09:02 16-08-08 LX188 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Road Crash Research
1916011 00:09:00 16-08-08 LX188 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Loxton
1924962 00:08:49 16-08-08 BA178 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Road Crash Research
1916007 00:08:47 16-08-08 BA178 Cat1 Caddy Rd, Loveday SAAS Barmera
Someone must have hit the wrong button, or someone has made one hell of a mistake! No fire No rescue, Unless of course there is a new way of responding crews & I haven't heard about it. And yes I know it was a busy night.
Anyway I'm sure someone will have an answer that makes sense.
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on August 16, 2008, 10:29:47 AM
This may have been asked before- but what trips the " SAAS Road Crash Research" page?


it's an automatically generated page if the VA box is tagged -it's part of the Adelaide Uni road crash research unit
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on August 16, 2008, 10:32:32 AM
Thanks BM
Cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on August 16, 2008, 02:17:34 PM
This may have been asked before- but what trips the " SAAS Road Crash Research" page?


it's an automatically generated page if the VA box is tagged -it's part of the Adelaide Uni road crash research unit

Also, the VA box might be ticked for incidents that involve vehicles, but aren't necessarily an MVA, (Like person hit by car, fallen off bike on a road etc), so Fire/Rescue might need to be responded.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on August 16, 2008, 02:52:06 PM
or my favourite.....

Oldie falls out of gopher....

....uninjured, but it tags out at category 2 for an MVA!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 16, 2008, 06:04:25 PM
Yeah for some reason anything with wheels is put in as an MVA, pushbike, Gopher, skateboard.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on August 16, 2008, 06:23:18 PM
As long as it occurs on a road...the page doesn't seem to appear when there is, say a motorbike crash in a paddock, on private property......

And the Road Accident Research people look at crashes involving vehicles (eg cars, trucks, motorbikes, push bike riders) as well as pedestrians (eg those walking around as well and "gopher" type pedestrians. - Under legislation, gophers are defined as pedestrians...)

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on August 16, 2008, 07:58:52 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC030 16/08/08 14:15,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,MENGLERS HILL RD,TANUNDA MAP 0 0 0 TG095,BUS HAS ROLLE DOWN HILL AND IS PINNING,3 CASUALTIES AGAINST WALL AT LOOKOUT,TAND00 NTPA19 CFS Nuriootpa Response

Sounds a bit exciting...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on August 16, 2008, 08:56:23 PM
I bet for at least three people it aint too exciting.  I hope no one was badly hurt.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on August 16, 2008, 09:02:27 PM
I bet for at least three people it aint too exciting.  I hope no one was badly hurt.

And what part of being pinned to a wall by a bus would you find boring and dull?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on August 16, 2008, 09:22:18 PM
16-08-08 OH181 Cat7 Panalatinga Rd, Woodcroft 177 D12 SAAS Road Crash Research

Havent seen a cat 7 before
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on August 16, 2008, 09:36:45 PM
Cat 7 is standby at location, believe the incident is a double fatality. :-(
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on August 16, 2008, 10:36:54 PM
I bet for at least three people it aint too exciting.  I hope no one was badly hurt.

And what part of being pinned to a wall by a bus would you find boring and dull?

All of it, if your the poor victim!

Frightening, Painful - Yes, but no, not exciting.  As a Firefighter I'm sure it would get my adrenalin pumping, as I am sure it would have for those who were trapped, but I still wouldn't call it exciting.

Report in the Sunday Mail says three people hospitalised after being knocked off a ledge when the bus hit them after rolling down the hill.  Fortunately all escaped with only minor injuries.  "It is beleived a handbrake problem on the bus may have been the cause of the accident"

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on August 16, 2008, 11:22:09 PM
1905655 21:02:45 15-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC058 15/08/08 21:01,RESPOND SHED FIRE,19 IDA ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 Q 8 TG195,SHED AT REAR OF PREMISES,MBR721 MFS Murray Bridge Response

1905655 22:37:00 16-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC057 16/08/08 22:36,RESPOND SHED FIRE,5A IDA ST,MURRAY BRIDGE MAP 349 Q 8 TG195,,MBR721 MFS Murray Bridge Response

Popular street for shed fires this weekend :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert on August 17, 2008, 12:17:26 AM
16-08-08 OH181 Cat7 Panalatinga Rd, Woodcroft 177 D12 SAAS Road Crash Research

Havent seen a cat 7 before

Cat 7 is used to log vehicle movements.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on August 17, 2008, 12:45:12 AM
Cat 7 is standby at location, believe the incident is a double fatality. :-(

Panalatinga is starting to tally up a few fatalities. And from what I have seen, the only strategy that has been put in place is to put red light/speed cameras on the corner of Pimpala Road.

The double fatality was 500m up the road from where another fatality was only a few months ago. I know that there are roads everywhere that are hot spots for this sort of thing, but Panalatinga to my knowledge (i grew up in that area) has only recently become an area of concern (well should be).

Im not sure if you can fill me in mattb about any apparent rise in accidents,  being from that area,

but I really hope that the responsible authorities really take a good look before it gets out of hand.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 17, 2008, 12:50:35 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC028 16/08/08 13:46,RESPOND To,OIL SPILL WOOLSHED ST,BORDERTOWN MAP 0 0 0 TG230,OIL SPILT ON ROAD OUTSIDE THE FOOTY GROU,NDS,BDTN00

not necessarily a interesting job...seems to be a good thing i believe tho,  provides an incident type when there isnt a preset one.

MFS: *CFSRES INC032 16/08/08 14:54,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,INT. GOLDSMITH DR & NEW HONEYPOT RD,NOARLUNGA DOWNS MAP 186 B 14 TG182,,CDN439 MRPH00

And Also better location detail.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 17, 2008, 01:02:52 AM
I still do not see the difference between pages that have been sent previously. MOST "Respond To" pages have the incident details attached to the message. The same with location detail, haven't you had calls to x streets and intersections and street corners before?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 17, 2008, 02:14:09 AM
I don't know why people crash on panalatinga rd, its the easiest flamin road to dive on, nice and wide and smooth. I guess its just there time.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 029 on August 17, 2008, 02:29:04 AM
thant job at tanunda was nothing much well from an emergency services side 3 people were traped between a wall and a bus for a short time BV84  BV81 and G81 all dispatched cat 2 but all in all quite basic 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 17, 2008, 09:02:15 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC056 16/08/08 21:42,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,MORGAN RD,BARMERA MAP 0 0 0 TG203,FROM POLICE IN VICINITY OF NUDIST AREA,,POLICE & AMB ATTENDING,BMA029 BARM00 SES Barmera

Beware of white pointers :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 17, 2008, 09:08:00 AM
16-08-08 OH181 Cat7 Panalatinga Rd, Woodcroft 177 D12 SAAS Road Crash Research

Havent seen a cat 7 before

Cat 7 is standby at location, believe the incident is a double fatality

Confirming yes it was a double fatality and a 8 year old was left orphaned :-(

It was a Cat 7 because one of the ambulances was left at the scene due to crews rushing the child casualty to FMC.Another crew was dispatched to collect it and as the road was closed it was'nt a hazard. :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on August 17, 2008, 09:10:59 AM
About time you city firefighters drove the second ambulance back to the SAAS base it came from or to a more secure place till the crew can pick it up...Works well done here.... :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on August 17, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
Quote
The double fatality was 500m up the road from where another fatality was only a few months ago. I know that there are roads everywhere that are hot spots for this sort of thing, but Panalatinga to my knowledge (i grew up in that area) has only recently become an area of concern (well should be).

It's not the road that is is the issue, as pumprescue said the road is in very good condition with lots of room and a good surface. In the incident a couple of months ago and last nights job it was just a case of the driver making a very bad decision.

Unfortunately the job last night resulted in the young child loosing both parents and maybe an uncle, then again we could easily have had five dead given the impact and the circumstances, not to mention the peanut that tried to kill us on the way to the job - but that's another story.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on August 17, 2008, 10:37:05 AM
A Sad time for all and it just shows you its not the fault of the road but those at the wheel....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on August 17, 2008, 11:42:24 AM
Quote
The double fatality was 500m up the road from where another fatality was only a few months ago. I know that there are roads everywhere that are hot spots for this sort of thing, but Panalatinga to my knowledge (i grew up in that area) has only recently become an area of concern (well should be).

It's not the road that is is the issue, as pumprescue said the road is in very good condition with lots of room and a good surface. In the incident a couple of months ago and last nights job it was just a case of the driver making a very bad decision.

Unfortunately the job last night resulted in the young child loosing both parents and maybe an uncle, then again we could easily have had five dead given the impact and the circumstances, not to mention the peanut that tried to kill us on the way to the job - but that's another story.

Obviously not last nights, but was the bad decision a few months ago someone trying to get "airborne" heading on pimpala across panalatinga and finding a tree?
I believe that is what happened a few years ago also.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on August 17, 2008, 05:53:24 PM
I still do not see the difference between pages that have been sent previously. MOST "Respond To" pages have the incident details attached to the message. The same with location detail, haven't you had calls to x streets and intersections and street corners before?

Numbers, i suppose its the differance between the incident type being at the start of the message rather than somewhere hidden in the details, And with the location, its putting the exact location all in one part of the message rather than split up again.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on August 17, 2008, 09:13:36 PM
Quote
Obviously not last nights, but was the bad decision a few months ago someone trying to get "airborne" heading on pimpala across panalatinga and finding a tree?
I believe that is what happened a few years ago also.

That's right, both those fatalaties involved the drivers making poor decisions and ending up in the same tree, in those cases it was to try and go twice the recommended speed and launch themselves off a slight rise in the road. Given that thousands of people drive over that same rise everyday without dying I don't think it can be blamed on the road.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on August 17, 2008, 10:42:38 PM
nope, your exactly right matt. I reckon the government has got the camera facing the wrong way on that intersection, needs to be for the cars going east to west over that lip...
It's only natural for people to need something to blame tho.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on August 18, 2008, 02:11:12 AM
I travel westbound through that intersection almost every day.  Now, I am NOT suggesting that the road is to blame for the two fatals into that tree - purely driver error, but you only have to be doing 60kph heading east to get very light on your wheels, if not some good air time.  IMHO I feel that some realignment could reduce the severity of the hump, but I'm no road designer.

It only takes a little speed and not much more stupidity to risk a close encounter with that tree.  At least they could instal some armco barrier on the south side of Pimpala Rd.

It would be interesting to see some speed camera shots of west bound traffic there - would be like an episode of The Dukes of Hazzard!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 18, 2008, 08:22:13 AM
Numbers, i suppose its the differance between the incident type being at the start of the message rather than somewhere hidden in the details, And with the location, its putting the exact location all in one part of the message rather than split up again.

I still have trouble understanding what it is about the MFS pages that people find so hard to comprehend. It's very simple [Incident Type][Location][Further Details] (yes its simplified). Why can't people stop and take two seconds to read the page, comprehend it, and continue?

Could the "Respond To" issue be fixed by an increase in the number of incident types?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 18, 2008, 10:08:53 AM
Quote
Could the "Respond To" issue be fixed by an increase in the number of incident types?

Free Text capability would fix it...be able to do the whole "RESPOND Cows On Road, MAIN RD, KANGARILLA"
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 18, 2008, 10:27:35 AM
Free Text capability would fix it...be able to do the whole "RESPOND Cows On Road, MAIN RD, KANGARILLA"

But that requires changes to the system, rather than just inputting more incident types. unless there is a cap on them.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 18, 2008, 11:32:54 AM
I doubt that they woulda provisioned the ability to add more incident types....it would take the same effort to give the ability to do Free Text....This is South Australia afterall...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on August 18, 2008, 02:19:51 PM
Quote
Could the "Respond To" issue be fixed by an increase in the number of incident types?

Free Text capability would fix it...

They can input over the suggested text before paging...but do you want a quick dispatch or a slower dispatch with more infinite detail ? They also only have limited space, otherwise it is two pager messages.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 18, 2008, 03:23:13 PM
Ok straight from the horses mouth ( I rang and asked) the only free text part before inputting the address is the field for the house number, it seem they have found you can type whatever you like in there, you can't free write in the street or town field. once you get to the next screen you only have a limited choice of incident types, no free write ability. once you go through the motions of inputting brigades required you then move to the next screen where you have the ability again to start typing. Once you hit send if you chose the incident type of TO and free written a job type in the street number field you get a message that comes out like so MFS: *CFSRES INC032 18/08/08 14:21,RESPOND To Oil Spill,WANDANA AV,GILLES PLAINS MAP 95 M 7 TG182,CNR N/EAST RD CAR V`S MOTORCYCLE DEBRIS,ON ROAD,BLP211

They also stated that no more money is to be spent on BOMS as its an obsolete program, it will be maintaned until CAD comes in. So we just have to put up with it for a while longer.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on August 18, 2008, 07:04:22 PM
perhaps people who have questions should try organising a tour of comms for there brigade.... ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on August 18, 2008, 07:28:11 PM
Submitted the paperwork...still waiting for a response.   The people that take the bookings seem a little confused as to why anyone would want to look at Comms...!!

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 18, 2008, 10:14:34 PM
1909366 18:45:48 18-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC045 18/08/08 18:45,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,KALANGADOO ,KALANGADOO MAP 0 0 0 TG231,FACTORY RD, KALANGADOO, CAR ON LPG,KALA00 PENO19 CFS Kalangadoo Response

Is it just me or does Kalangadoo seem to becoming busier with the amount of call outs we have been paged for  :-).... maybe its about time we were given a second truck or a LRT  :lol: :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 19, 2008, 09:20:40 AM
1909366 18:45:48 18-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC045 18/08/08 18:45,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,KALANGADOO ,KALANGADOO MAP 0 0 0 TG231,FACTORY RD, KALANGADOO, CAR ON LPG,KALA00 PENO19 CFS Kalangadoo Response

Is it just me or does Kalangadoo seem to becoming busier with the amount of call outs we have been paged for  :-).... maybe its about time we were given a second truck or a LRT  :lol: :-P

I would'nt worry about a second appliance if your putting out a car fire on LPG with a CO2 and a Foam extinguisher and then the HP line :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 11:48:16 AM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck.   :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on August 19, 2008, 12:36:59 PM
perhaps people who have questions should try organising a tour of comms for there brigade.... ;)

Already been twice & will going again next month (with a different organisation)...helps when your volunteer operational space is on the third floor of MFS Wakefield St building  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Heavy Rescue on August 19, 2008, 06:18:27 PM
06:48:37 19-08-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I3: FIP BUILDING 717, EL ALAMEIN ARMY CAMP ( Cultana Training Camp), 10 km WEST ON OLD WHYALLA ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta Response

07:00:15 19-08-08 There is a Fire call and two personnel can not take truck need more thank you MFS Pt Augusta Response


Hmmm, 12 minutes and only two people at the station and no default brigade responded, surely this is unacceptable.

In one of the other threads I thought someone said that the retained stations need to default just the same as the CFS do - it appears as though they don't think so.

I wonder if the UFU will crack the shits at the MFS and start writing reports like they did with a certain CFS brigade that struggled to get out the door.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 19, 2008, 06:22:57 PM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck.   :lol:

Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 06:29:13 PM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck.   :lol:

Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5  :roll:

Just relaying what i heard on the radio   :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 19, 2008, 06:52:27 PM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck.   :lol:

Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5  :roll:

Just relaying what i heard on the radio   :lol:

That might have been the message as i rocked up before the truck left the station  :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: uniden on August 19, 2008, 06:59:08 PM
This is not a mud slinging page...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 19, 2008, 07:16:18 PM
This is not a mud slinging page...

If ya cant beat em, join em  :-D

Sorry MR Uniden, Sir
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on August 19, 2008, 09:15:18 PM
06:48:37 19-08-08 PRIMARY ALARM, I3: FIP BUILDING 717, EL ALAMEIN ARMY CAMP ( Cultana Training Camp), 10 km WEST ON OLD WHYALLA ROAD, PORT AUGUSTA MFS Pt Augusta Response

07:00:15 19-08-08 There is a Fire call and two personnel can not take truck need more thank you MFS Pt Augusta Response


Hmmm, 12 minutes and only two people at the station and no default brigade responded, surely this is unacceptable.

In one of the other threads I thought someone said that the retained stations need to default just the same as the CFS do - it appears as though they don't think so.

I wonder if the UFU will crack the filtered at the MFS and start writing reports like they did with a certain CFS brigade that struggled to get out the door.
Nah its all good, they are the MFS, no need to default as long as the red truck eventually gets there.  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on August 19, 2008, 09:58:45 PM
No mud slinging going on here, but as the person taking the notes the previous night I will back Camo up as the reponse when Kalanagadoo was about to go mobile was "with a crew of 2 1/2". Wasn't too sure who the half was and would hate to hazard a guess....  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 20, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
No mud slinging going on here, but as the person taking the notes the previous night I will back Camo up as the reponse when Kalanagadoo was about to go mobile was "with a crew of 2 1/2". Wasn't too sure who the half was and would hate to hazard a guess....  :-D

Cadet maybe :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Gungellan34 on August 20, 2008, 03:56:30 PM
Time to cue the Banjo now......... :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Ringer on August 24, 2008, 06:39:09 PM
I wouldnt be worrying about a 2nd truck when you are only responding with 2.5 crew on the first truck.   :lol:

Actually Camo we had a crew of 3 not 2.5  :roll:

Just relaying what i heard on the radio   :lol:

Kalangadoo did roll with only 2.5
 the 0.5 was on the back

That might have been the message as i rocked up before the truck left the station  :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 24, 2008, 10:18:25 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 24/08/08 21:43,RESPOND To,PORTA LOO ALIGHT @ ARCADIA DR,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 C 15 TG182,NEAR 19,ELZ332

Now thats easy to read! :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on August 24, 2008, 11:29:42 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 24/08/08 21:43,RESPOND To,PORTA LOO ALIGHT @ ARCADIA DR,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 C 15 TG182,NEAR 19,ELZ332

Now thats easy to read! :)


Kenny will not be happy :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on August 25, 2008, 07:41:37 AM
No it was the blow up sheep......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 25, 2008, 07:08:51 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC070 24/08/08 21:43,RESPOND To,PORTA LOO ALIGHT @ ARCADIA DR,SMITHFIELD MAP 42 C 15 TG182,NEAR 19,ELZ332

Now thats easy to read! :)


Kenny will not be happy :-D

That job would just give you the shits :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 25, 2008, 07:40:33 PM
17:48:45   25-08-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:48,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,PRINCESS HWY NEAR BISCUIT FLAT,KTN029 SES Kingston Response

   17:52:18   25-08-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:50,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0 TG225,NEAR BISCUIT FLAT ON PRINCESS HWY FROM M,T GAMBIER POLICE WITH KINGSTON SES,BISC00

17:56:41   25-08-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:55,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,STOP FOR CALL CFS ATTENDING,KTN029

18:27:45   25-08-08   KG181 Cat2 Princes Hwy, Kingston C141 K3 SAAS Kingston SE
18:27:48   25-08-08   KG181 Cat2 Princes Hwy, Kingston C141 K3 SAAS Road Crash Research

Car Vs Tree :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: adelaide_medic on August 25, 2008, 11:21:45 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC065 25/08/08 22:11,RESPOND To,BALAKLAVA CFS,BALAKLAVA MAP 0 0 0 TG104,ASSIST WITH SEARCH FOR CFS MEMBER,BALA00

what the?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on August 26, 2008, 07:30:54 AM
Yeah just saw that myself on the on line news but no further information than what is on the page
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on August 26, 2008, 03:00:20 PM
just a guess but they are probably simply letting the searchers who are likely to know the missing person it's one of them as opposed to sum random? bit closer to home/ emotional...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on August 26, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
Quote
1925586 12:52:50 26-08-08 CT71 UNIFORM TRY ON AT PROSPECT THEN CAT 4 AT ENFIELD SAAS City

clothes before pt??!! :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 26, 2008, 03:16:25 PM
Quote
1925586 12:52:50 26-08-08 CT71 UNIFORM TRY ON AT PROSPECT THEN CAT 4 AT ENFIELD SAAS City

clothes before pt??!! :?

More importantly,  is it the GREEN uniform??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on August 26, 2008, 05:04:07 PM
17:48:45   25-08-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:48,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,PRINCESS HWY NEAR BISCUIT FLAT,KTN029 SES Kingston Response

17:56:41 25-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:55,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0,STOP FOR CALL CFS ATTENDING,KTN029

 17:52:18   25-08-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC052 25/08/08 17:50,RESPOND Tree Down,BISCUIT FLAT CFS,BISCUIT FLAT MAP 0 0 0 TG225,NEAR BISCUIT FLAT ON PRINCESS HWY FROM M,T GAMBIER POLICE WITH KINGSTON SES,BISC00

18:27:45 25-08-08 KG181 Cat2 Princes Hwy, Kingston C141 K3 SAAS Kingston

Car Vs Tree :|

Interestingly enough i did hear something about this on UHF channel 7 not sure if it was a local towie going out to the scene or just a farmer who came across the accident :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 27, 2008, 04:32:03 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:12,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,ADL205 41 PPT371 BPK451 ADL202

MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,WDV243 WDV249 BLP211 AD2015 ADL206 AD2090


MFS: RESPOND 2ND ALARM, B COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE*URGMSG (safety officer, etc)

MFS: *CFSRES INC039 27/08/08 15:30,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,159 UNLEY RD,UNLEY MAP 130 J 1 TG182,P1 159 UNLEY RD UNLEY CALLED FROM POLICE, NO PERSONS TRAPPED,MIT020 BURN19 ADL203

MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION36 (331)

MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:50,RESPOND To,TEA TREE GULLY CFS,TEA TREE GULLY MAP 0 0 0 TG182,PLEASE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 31, GOLDEN GROVE STATION - PRIORITY 2,TTGY19

Aint take long for CFS to do MFS change of quarters....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 27, 2008, 09:35:03 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:12,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,ADL205 41 PPT371 BPK451 ADL202

MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:19,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,25 HYTHE ST,RIDLEYTON MAP 105 J 14 TG182,,WDV243 WDV249 BLP211 AD2015 ADL206 AD2090


MFS: RESPOND 2ND ALARM, B COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE*URGMSG (safety officer, etc)

MFS: *CFSRES INC039 27/08/08 15:30,RESPOND BUILD IMPACT,159 UNLEY RD,UNLEY MAP 130 J 1 TG182,P1 159 UNLEY RD UNLEY CALLED FROM POLICE, NO PERSONS TRAPPED,MIT020 BURN19 ADL203

MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION36 (331)

MFS: *CFSRES INC035 27/08/08 15:50,RESPOND To,TEA TREE GULLY CFS,TEA TREE GULLY MAP 0 0 0 TG182,PLEASE CHANGE QUARTERS TO MFS STATION 31, GOLDEN GROVE STATION - PRIORITY 2,TTGY19

Aint take long for CFS to do MFS change of quarters....

Thats Plan B Zippy :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on August 30, 2008, 04:30:07 AM
02:00:18 30-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 30/08/08 01:59,RESPOND RCR,BRIDGE RD,POORAKA MAP 94 P 3 TG182,2ND ALARM,ADL204 APK361 31 MFS Car 31

Just curious, what constitutes a 2nd alarm RCR??  Not one that I have seen before.  I imagine that first crews possibly required assistance.  I beleive this was a two car MVA with at least one fatality (SES were later responded for tarping).  Don't know how many appliances responded to the 1st alarm.

Sounds like a nasty one.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 30, 2008, 08:22:52 AM
If you have persons trapped in seperate cars the policy is to upgrade to a second alarm as you can't work on 2 cars at once.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 30, 2008, 09:23:23 AM
249 or 329 was probably on its way to it,

I believe its 4 appliances being 2 Fire, 2 Rescue. Correct me on this,  long while since i last looked at the book.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 30, 2008, 10:44:26 AM
Thats right, you pretty much treat them as seperate incidents
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 30, 2008, 02:24:05 PM
02:00:18 30-08-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 30/08/08 01:59,RESPOND RCR,BRIDGE RD,POORAKA MAP 94 P 3 TG182,2ND ALARM,ADL204 APK361 31 MFS Car 31

Just curious, what constitutes a 2nd alarm RCR??  Not one that I have seen before.  I imagine that first crews possibly required assistance.  I beleive this was a two car MVA with at least one fatality (SES were later responded for tarping).  Don't know how many appliances responded to the 1st alarm.

Sounds like a nasty one.

This incident was the result of a Police High Speed chase, a collision between two cars outside the BP Service Station, with 4 persons trapped, of which two were deceased :-(

Appliances in attendance

Adelaide 204
Adelaide Car 14 DO
Adelaide Car 31 DO
Adelaide Car 40 Safety Officer
Angle Park 361
Oakden 301
Salisbury 329

Multiple ambulances and a retrieval team were sent to the scene.

Enfield SES were responded also to provide shelter as it was pouring with rain.

More info and photos here http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24265840-5006301,00.html
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on August 30, 2008, 03:17:36 PM
204 came a long way for a second rescue appliance, would of thought Salisbury CFS might of been the next closest rescue for this one, out of their area but may of saved some time waitin for 204, salisbury cfs would of had to cover mets rescue areas north either way.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 30, 2008, 03:28:43 PM
If you saw the photos, you will understand why 204 went.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on August 30, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
204 came a long way for a second rescue appliance, would of thought Salisbury CFS might of been the next closest rescue for this one, out of their area but may of saved some time waitin for 204, salisbury cfs would of had to cover mets rescue areas north either way.

Closest, yes, most appropriate, perhaps not. SAMFS only have the one "Heavy Rescue" truck, that being 204, the '9's are merely pump rescues and the CFS not much above that. Lets not nitpick a good response...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on August 30, 2008, 04:08:13 PM
yep fair call, have had a look at the photos and 204 certainly required, better to leave CFS in station for other rescues if required
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on August 30, 2008, 04:15:53 PM
Seen the pics, i can't believe the others weren't killed as well. :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on August 30, 2008, 04:18:29 PM
Seen the pics, i can't believe the others weren't killed as well. :-o

Very true Al, and also on a side note a former firefighters eldest son was killed at Stirling North early this morning....MFS are covering their area at present. :-(
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 31, 2008, 12:18:16 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response

12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...

*subtlely shakes head*.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on August 31, 2008, 09:45:08 AM
minor detail  :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on August 31, 2008, 11:43:45 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC054 30/08/08 19:24,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,BLACK TOP RD,HILLBANK MAP 62 D 13 TG182,NEAR JOE GAPPER PARK WITH ELZ 331 MULCH,HEAP,TTGY19 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
Bit of drive for the Gullly boys.
But then,
MFS: *CFSRES INC054 30/08/08 19:30,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,BLACKBURN RD,HILLBANK MAP 62 C 8 TG182,WITH 331 NEAR FIRE TRACK JOE GAPPER PARK,OTHL00 CFS One Tree Hill Response
Same call but still not the correct brigade.
I suppose when in doubt, guess the response hey. :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on August 31, 2008, 01:00:04 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response

12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...

*subtlely shakes head*.....

perhaps something to do with the 000 call not quite matching what the first paramedic found on arrival??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 31, 2008, 01:02:45 PM
Well its either One Tree hill or Salisbury,  for such a low priority job, id say one tree hill with Elizabeth would be the best response.

Salisbury MFS looked like it had been called to a RCR at Brahma Lodge at the time.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 31, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response

12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...

*subtlely shakes head*.....

perhaps something to do with the 000 call not quite matching what the first paramedic found on arrival??

Nah im more concerned about how the Operator managed to type  "Persons Trapped" in the message,and wasnt aware that he/she didnt include a Rescue brigade, and for such a long delay to realise that fact.

another case of > Address, Type, Details, Transmit...not review the response plan.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on August 31, 2008, 02:52:19 PM
Well its either One Tree hill or Salisbury,  for such a low priority job, id say one tree hill with Elizabeth would be the best response.

Salisbury MFS looked like it had been called to a RCR at Brahma Lodge at the time.
Bit of a longish drive for OTH being at the bottom of the hills face, going by what ive seen on the pager site Salisbury CFS seems to do responses into that area, anyway obviously a fill in upstairs last night?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 31, 2008, 03:42:39 PM
meh, its only a matter of kilometres, unlike distances out in the sticks...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on August 31, 2008, 06:14:12 PM
Yes pretty p iss poor that after over a year now they still don't pay attention, how can you write persons trapped and not add a rescue, for goodness sake !
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on August 31, 2008, 06:28:55 PM
its like the left arm doesnt know the right arm!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on September 01, 2008, 07:17:39 PM
Yet another advantage of Group taking ownership of the call immediately & managing subsequent response. And/or corrections.  :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on September 01, 2008, 08:17:25 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response

12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...

*subtlely shakes head*.....

I must be missing something important here.... the typing in the pager message that persons trapped is to CFS response.

If you are accusing SAAS ComCen then I do not understand the comments made. The SAAS just page a response priority don't they, not incident details !!! The extra details is via radio.

Or is Summertown CFS not a RCR brigade. If not, why did they not query the resources when the truck rolled ?? Or maybe they did & that was the 12 min delay !!

Not much detail given & a lot of people complaining on this forum. You will not never have the full details of the incident call receipt & dispatch issues from a 'pager website'..

** my opinion only **
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 01, 2008, 08:36:49 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response

12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...

*subtlely shakes head*.....

Dare I suggest that there was a mistake in the "Person Trapped" part of the message, or that they were informed "Person ok, but having issues getting the door open" trapped yes, but needing a full RCR turnout, maybe no. We don't know all the details.

Relax....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on September 01, 2008, 11:59:18 PM
ah fook it...let's just send everything we've got to every VA that we get called to......


....that way you lot on here won't have anything to whinge about.....not from the alleged lack of action on Adelaide Fire or SAAS Comms part (or whoever else you want to blame....) .....but because you won't have time to do anything else than go belting around the country-side in your little white tonka trucks to VA's!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 02, 2008, 12:30:33 AM
ah fook it...let's just send everything we've got to every VA that we get called to......


....that way you lot on here won't have anything to whinge about.....not from the alleged lack of action on Adelaide Fire or SAAS Comms part (or whoever else you want to blame....) .....but because you won't have time to do anything else than go belting around the country-side in your little white tonka trucks to VA's!!

Then you'll have the vollo coast guard angry that THEY don't get a call!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on September 02, 2008, 12:41:10 AM
ah fook it...let's just send everything we've got to every VA that we get called to......


....that way you lot on here won't have anything to whinge about.....not from the alleged lack of action on Adelaide Fire or SAAS Comms part (or whoever else you want to blame....) .....but because you won't have time to do anything else than go belting around the country-side in your little white tonka trucks to VA's!!

All I can say is I hope I never crash.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on September 02, 2008, 12:43:35 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC049 30/08/08 18:48,RESPOND RCR,JENNINGS DR,ASHTON MAP 133 K 2 TG126,CAR ROLLOVER PERSON TRAPPED,SUMM00 CFS Summertown Response

12 mins till a rescue appliance was even considered...but later on was not required...

*subtlely shakes head*.....

Dare I suggest that there was a mistake in the "Person Trapped" part of the message, or that they were informed "Person ok, but having issues getting the door open" trapped yes, but needing a full RCR turnout, maybe no. We don't know all the details.

Relax....

To be fair what everyone is commenting about is the fact it was a single brigade response to a "RCR" page with no "Rescue" resource added.Person ok, but having issues getting the door open is a little bit of a grey area, considering information is coming from the public.....if I received a page for an "RCR" and noticed it only had a single appliance response I would be asking for a Rescue resource straight away.Better to cover all the bases than having to wait longer, and as we know sometimes when it's time critical the outcome is not always good.Stop call never hurt anyone :wink:

There have been many occassions when the Fire Service has not been called to MVA's and it wont be the last.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on September 02, 2008, 12:46:21 AM
Isn't this more a case of an SOP not being followed?

Unless things have changed recently, if CFS is responded to a report of a crash, then a primary brigade AND a rescue brigade is sent...regardless of whether there are reports of persons trapped or not....?

This morning, I called in a crash - via SAPol.   I made it clear that there was no one in the crashed vehicle, and no occupant around.  The call taker advised that they would send CFS & ambulance...which they did.

The response was the local brigade, AND the nearest Rescue...just like the SOP says so.....

So what I can't understand is the inconsistency of the responses...  :|

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 02, 2008, 12:52:46 AM
To be fair what everyone is commenting about is the fact it was a single brigade response to a "RCR" page with no "Rescue" resource added.Person ok, but having issues getting the door open is a little bit of a grey area, considering information is coming from the public.....if I received a page for an "RCR" and noticed it only had a single appliance response I would be asking for a Rescue resource straight away.Better to cover all the bases than having to wait longer, and as we know sometimes when it's time critical the outcome is not always good.Stop call never hurt anyone :wink:

There have been many occasions when the Fire Service has not been called to MVA's and it wont be the last.

To be fair, far often we jump all over the comms operators without knowing what was going on. For all we know, the call may have come from the occupant of the car, rather than some retarded passerby. I understand what you are saying and if I had been OIC of Summertown, I would have queried rescue resource response. Oftentimes we have pages from comms where MVA/RCR are used interchangeably. As a crusty old Snr. Firey once told me "Don't interrogate the pager, just get to the station" I swear some people on this forum want a full patient history, dimensions of car/building as well as pictorial description of the surrounding area on the pager. I wish that people on these forums wouldn't second guess our comms operators all the time and trust me, I know all about the Fire Service being not turned out or incorrectly turned out to MVA's.

When will the impotent whining stop?!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 02, 2008, 12:59:36 AM
To be fair what everyone is commenting about is the fact it was a single brigade response to a "RCR" page with no "Rescue" resource added.Person ok, but having issues getting the door open is a little bit of a grey area, considering information is coming from the public.....if I received a page for an "RCR" and noticed it only had a single appliance response I would be asking for a Rescue resource straight away.Better to cover all the bases than having to wait longer, and as we know sometimes when it's time critical the outcome is not always good.Stop call never hurt anyone :wink:

There have been many occasions when the Fire Service has not been called to MVA's and it wont be the last.

To be fair, far often we jump all over the comms operators without knowing what was going on. For all we know, the call may have come from the occupant of the car, rather than some retarded passerby. I understand what you are saying and if I had been OIC of Summertown, I would have queried rescue resource response. Oftentimes we have pages from comms where MVA/RCR are used interchangeably. As a crusty old Snr. Firey once told me "Don't interrogate the pager, just get to the station" I swear some people on this forum want a full patient history, dimensions of car/building as well as pictorial description of the surrounding area on the pager. I wish that people on these forums wouldn't second guess our comms operators all the time and trust me, I know all about the Fire Service being not turned out or incorrectly turned out to MVA's.

When will the impotent whining stop?!

Spot on numbers..

A typical case of people jumping up and down over a pager message, that had NOTHING to do with them..

Boy, technology is great thing, sometimes, a little too great!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on September 02, 2008, 01:02:57 AM
But you need to be very careful about trusting implicitly the information obtained from members of the public, about what is actually going on!!

I go to many jobs on a daily basis in my work - and often find the information given by the public, and what has / is actually occurring are very different.

That is why there are SOP's.... and in the case of CFS, we have have an SOP for what resources to send to particular incidents, so the call takers and dispatchers don't have to try & take guesses at what (and who) to send!!

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on September 02, 2008, 01:13:41 AM
Simple tell all the services to stick to the SOP's and send what is required by them,then everyone on here can rest their typing fingers and stop having a whinge :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 02, 2008, 07:51:10 AM
But you need to be very careful about trusting implicitly the information obtained from members of the public, about what is actually going on!!

I go to many jobs on a daily basis in my work - and often find the information given by the public, and what has / is actually occurring are very different.

That is why there are SOP's.... and in the case of CFS, we have have an SOP for what resources to send to particular incidents, so the call takers and dispatchers don't have to try & take guesses at what (and who) to send!!

Pip

Pip is spot on about why i brought this up.   Would be nice, if Paid Staff did a lot more administrative work for brigades, but really also, help us have a easier time doing operational stuff (ensuring correct responses every time, more than enough is better than too little)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on September 02, 2008, 08:33:19 AM
But you need to be very careful about trusting implicitly the information obtained from members of the public, about what is actually going on!!

I go to many jobs on a daily basis in my work - and often find the information given by the public, and what has / is actually occurring are very different.




Dare I be cynical enough to suggest that people who get angry with the public for this should remove their blinkers!?

  here I was thinking professionalism was about doing your job and not getting cranky with the public and their lack of knowledge about what anyone involved in a "professional" (sic) public service capacity does!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on September 02, 2008, 11:25:14 AM
I'm not angry at the public - just stating that what some tell emergency services about what is happening, is quite different to the situation occurrung.

Occasionally it is malicious / mischievous, but more often it is because they have only had a quick glance at the situation as they drive past, and report what they see - which is only a very small part of the incident....or in a panic over the situation, and can't tell you much about what is actually occurring, or they get second hand info, to ring through to the emergency service, without actually being there.

If we talk specifically about road crashes, there was one recently, a single car vs pole, one occupant, trapped and DOA.

There were at last 5 different callers who rang in, and got 5 different versions of the crash.   One said there were 2 cars, 5 people trapped, 2 dead, one really bad, and that the cars had been drag racing.  Another said two trapped, several cars involved.

It was all the same crash.  The other cars supposedly in the crash were passersby who had stopped to assist (and hadn't crashed at all).  The 5 people supposedly trapped where the passersby who were trying to help, and had not been involved in the crash.  There had been no drag race.

People's perceptions vary, depending on a wide range of factors, and reasons.  In this case, it appeared that SAPol and SAAS took the information based on the worst case scenario, and sent appropriate resources based on that information (I guess MFS did, but their pager messages don't show, so I can only assume they also responded appropriately - no reason to suggest they didn't)

While you have to go with what people tell you,  until emergency services arrive to assess, you have to carefully consider what the public tell you, and put appropriate procedures in place to take into account the information you receive.  Hence part of why we have SOP's!

Pip

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on September 02, 2008, 09:15:00 PM
Quote
Simple tell all the services to stick to the SOP's and send what is required by them,then everyone on here can rest their typing fingers and stop having a whinge
wrong they'll revert to whinging about not having anything to whinge about!!! :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darius on September 03, 2008, 09:47:00 AM
A typical case of people jumping up and down over a pager message, that had NOTHING to do with them..

Indeed but that has been pointed out here many many times and it makes no difference.  BTW in this case the appropriate enquiries/action has already been taken (before it was mentioned on here, so all the chat back and forward has been a waste of time, surprise surprise).
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on September 04, 2008, 02:52:43 PM
10:58:39 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC016 04/09/08 10:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,TORRENS RD,BROMPTON MAP 105 L 11 TG182,STARTED BY TRAIN AT RAIL CROSSING,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk

 11:25:07 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC018 04/09/08 11:24,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,OVINGHAM RAILWAY STATION,DEVONPORT TCE,OVINGHAM MAP 105 Q 10 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk

12:30:52 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC021 04/09/08 12:30,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,OVINGHAM RAILWAY STATION,DEVONPORT TCE,OVINGHAM MAP 105 Q 10 TG182,,SAIR55 PPT371 CFS State Air Desk

 13:49:15 04-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/09/08 13:48,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,OVINGHAM RAILWAY STATION,DEVONPORT TCE,OVINGHAM MAP 105 Q 10 TG182,,SAIR55 ADL203 CFS State Air Desk

Are these all related?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Gilly on September 04, 2008, 03:06:10 PM
Rail grinding perhaps.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on September 04, 2008, 09:47:22 PM
Yeah it is track grinding, they train they are using has its own firefighting equipment, but it seems they don't get everything.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on September 09, 2008, 04:12:17 PM
all personal your p.p.e. check are over due ,it is cfs policy that this be done every month or no workcover claim will be approved because you are slack kangarilla captain - KANGARILLA CAPTAIN 9/09/2008 3:36:33 PM CFS Kangarilla Info



whats this all about then?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on September 09, 2008, 04:20:04 PM
15:37:09 09-09-08 all personal your p.p.e. check are over due ,it is cfs policy that this be done every month or no workcover claim will be approved because you are slack kangarilla captain - KANGARILLA CAPTAIN 9/09/2008 3:36:33 PM CFS Kangarilla Info

Sounds like the captain is not happy and when has it been CFS policy???? tell me how many ppl chrck their PPE and as for the workcover claim I think he has it a little wrong.......may be its a Mawson group policy???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 09, 2008, 04:25:51 PM
yeh i think he has it a lil wrong too....Must be all the Cows on road...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 09, 2008, 05:05:55 PM
Workcover would be well within their right to refuse a claim if the person involved wasn't wearing the required PPE by their own choice, and wearing it would have prevented the injury.
I can't comment on this situation though.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on September 09, 2008, 09:11:55 PM
not wearing is a little different to not checking tho isnt it??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on September 09, 2008, 09:42:10 PM
or being refused ppe when it is damaged  :x   
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 09, 2008, 11:43:16 PM
Sounds like the captain is not happy and when has it been CFS policy???? tell me how many ppl chrck their PPE and as for the workcover claim I think he has it a little wrong.......may be its a Mawson group policy???

I check my PPE every week at training, give it the quick once over. If if been running through scrub, or at a structure fire then its gets the once over as well. Gloves, and other small gear also gets the heave-ho as soon as its defective...

PPE is there to save you life, if your gear is busted just order more!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on September 10, 2008, 12:35:11 AM
or being refused ppe when it is damaged  :x   

If that ever happens, put in a near miss form and go straight to the region, that should NEVER happen with defective PPE !!  :x
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on September 10, 2008, 07:24:53 AM
Workcover would be hard pressed to prove you didn't check your PPE & they wouldn't bother anyway. And just a slight correction in SA Workcover don't approve or reject claims - the claims agent EML does & they will just about approve any claim (hence the big debt). Having said that CFS like all government departments are Self Insured - so it's not Workcover/EML accepting or rejecting claims its SAFECOM! So as the employer and the claims agent they may be a little more "aggressive" about claims management :wink: (most self insurers are).
Finally unless you run a log for each piece off PPE, How would anyone know?
cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 10, 2008, 11:58:27 AM
Sounds like the captain is not happy and when has it been CFS policy???? tell me how many ppl chrck their PPE and as for the workcover claim I think he has it a little wrong.......may be its a Mawson group policy???

I check my PPE every week at training, give it the quick once over. If if been running through scrub, or at a structure fire then its gets the once over as well. Gloves, and other small gear also gets the heave-ho as soon as its defective...

PPE is there to save you life, if your gear is busted just order more!

Agree with numbers. And likewise.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: KDOO_BTO on September 11, 2008, 02:36:12 PM
or being refused ppe when it is damaged  :x   

How about when groups refuse to supply new equipment too. Then there is times when at training courses the participants are told certain equipment should be on the their truck and when its not they are told they are not getting the equipment because they don't'need it'
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on September 11, 2008, 02:45:02 PM
Again shouldn't be happening, you MUST have the minimum equipment, if your group refuses then take it to the next level. In this day and age there is no excuse for have sub-standard or not having equipment. Gone are the days when its up to what the Group Officer "thinks" you need.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 11, 2008, 03:32:34 PM
Hear Hear.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on September 11, 2008, 08:38:17 PM
that is so true
i know a while back there was talks of audits of the equipment held by brigades, and some people were worried that stuff there crew had bought or acquired over the years would be taken if it is not standard stowage, but i think it needs to be looked at in the sense of well that stuff is fun, but lets get everything else up to scratch so you are actually safe when you go on the fireground
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on September 12, 2008, 10:40:25 PM
19:53:13 12-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC074 12/09/08 19:52,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,BLACKWOOD RAILWAY STATION,STATION RD,BLACKWOOD MAP 154 P 5 TG146,TRAIN FIRE - BOGEY UNDER BULK DIESEL TAN,K - WITH BLKWD & EDEN,BELR00

No other pager messages seen on the website, so I assume this was a minor incident....but if it was a major incident.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: firemansam on September 13, 2008, 05:54:22 PM
919362   16:59:38   13-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:59,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,URGMSG, ASSIST MARABEL,PINN19
CFS Mallee Group Officers response
1919371   16:59:36   13-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:59,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,URGMSG, ASSIST MARABEL,PINN19
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919362   16:59:03   13-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE,PINN19
CFS Mallee Group Officers response
1919371   16:58:59   13-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC064 13/09/08 16:58,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,PANITYA NTH RD PINNAROO CFS,PINNAROO MAP 0 0 0 TG204,ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE,PINN19
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919362   17:00:42   13-09-08   MFS: ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE, PANIYA NTH RD*URGMSG
CFS Mallee Group Officers response
1919371   17:00:40   13-09-08   MFS: ASSIST MARABEL AT GRASSFIRE, PANIYA NTH RD*URGMSG
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919371   17:03:20   13-09-08   PINN: RESPOND PINNAROO STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES
CFS Pinnaroo response
1919362   17:03:19   13-09-08   PINN: RESPOND PINNAROO STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES
CFS Mallee Group Officers response

Think this is a very broken turn out, marrabel and pinnaroo are nowhere near eachother.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 13, 2008, 06:41:51 PM
That is a very sus turnout...cos even Marrabel wasnt even out at a job.

Hmm....i think they were meant to be paged to Assist MURRAYVILLE CFA ;) 

Marrabel and Murrayville have a vauge audible similarity,  so yeah it was probably a CFS/CFA EMA response.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: adelaide_medic on September 14, 2008, 08:43:30 PM
ALDG INFO: SEVERE WX WARNING ISSUED BY BOM FOR AM, MLR, LEP, KI, USE, LSE, EEP, MN, MUR. DAMAGING WINDS AVG 60-70KPH WITH GUSTS IN EXCESS 90KPH DUE ADELAIDE 0200 HRS. GRANT. CFS Aldgate Info

looks like we'll be in for some windy weather tonight.

SES LOP is at Yellow!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 14, 2008, 10:37:26 PM
woaaaahhhh, ill be sure to sleep extra nicely tonight.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 21337 on September 14, 2008, 11:04:31 PM
1919094   13:49:00   14-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:48,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,LG2814 LGS281 PAD251 MFS 2814 Marine

1919074   13:57:41   14-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:57,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,ADL206 41 WDV243 WDV249 MFS Car 41

any details? marine sent to a house address and no other calls?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 14, 2008, 11:17:32 PM
Largs North turned out to that by the looks of things, not the MV Galantry, I think ERV071 is its turnout callsign?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on September 15, 2008, 02:01:26 AM
1919490 00:17:46 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC001 15/09/08 00:17,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,HIGH ST,KIMBA MAP 0 0 0 TG012,AT SERVICE STATION CORNER BUCKLEBOO ROAD,KIMB00 CFS Kimba Response

1919490 00:21:03 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 15/09/08 00:20,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,KIMBA CFS,KIMBA MAP 0 0 0 TG012,AT WCP. GAS BOTTLES EXPLODING,KIMB00 BUCK00 YALA00 WADD00 CFS Kimba Response

1923238 00:33:07 15-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC002 15/09/08 00:32,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,KIMBA CFS,KIMBA MAP 0 0 0,MANPOWER REQUIRED. RESPOND WITH 4 CFS BR,IGADES,KIM029 SES Kimba
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 15, 2008, 09:18:13 AM
1919094   13:49:00   14-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:48,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,LG2814 LGS281 PAD251 MFS 2814 Marine

1919074   13:57:41   14-09-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC040 14/09/08 13:57,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,13 PERSIC ST,LARGS NORTH MAP 79 K 13 TG182,FIRE IN ROOF,ADL206 41 WDV243 WDV249 MFS Car 41

any details? marine sent to a house address and no other calls?

Went to 2 Bells.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: pumprescue on September 15, 2008, 09:44:35 AM
2814 is a fire truck, it still responds to fires, the marine officer is still a firefighter.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 15, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
Went to 2 Bells.

Looks like I don't speaka your engleese.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 16, 2008, 02:02:28 PM
2nd Alarm.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 16, 2008, 06:35:41 PM
2nd Alarm.

Well christ, it was so hard to deduce that...

I was more commenting on how there seems to be a shift toward more Americanised terms getting shoehorned into places they don't and shouldn't fit.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 16, 2008, 07:57:05 PM
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.

Deal with it maybe?.. I have seen you deal with alot worse on this site Numbers!..

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on September 16, 2008, 10:07:58 PM
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.

Shouldn't it be just as easy to drop them when you get home again?  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 17, 2008, 02:36:34 PM
13:52:18   17-09-08   F74 NO SAAS RESOURCES, U WANT FIRIES SAAS Fulham
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: adelaide_medic on September 17, 2008, 06:46:46 PM
13:52:18   17-09-08   F74 NO SAAS RESOURCES, U WANT FIRIES SAAS Fulham

your point?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 17, 2008, 06:55:29 PM
its...interesting?  getting a bit thin out there these days...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 17, 2008, 07:47:34 PM
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.

Shouldn't it be just as easy to drop them when you get home again?  :?

If/When you do it, then I guess you can make up your own mind..

Sheesh.. Linch me because I said "Went to 2 bells".. - Who's to say thats American anyway!? .. Some people need to get a bit more of a life..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 17, 2008, 07:49:30 PM
When you have run a few jobs with FD's in the US, its easy to pick up some terms.

Deal with it maybe?.. I have seen you deal with alot worse on this site Numbers!..

I'm dealing with it buddy, as I said, just commenting about the use of non CFS terms causing issues on the fireground - I mean if you can 'slip' and type it out, no doubt it must be easy to 'slip' and use it in verbal conversation. It's not like its that hard to swtich off... You don't see people screaming "Make pumps 4, rescues 1 and ladders 1" or that they have a "shout" just because they 'picked it up' from another service.

If/When you do it, then I guess you can make up your own mind..

Sheesh.. Linch me because I said "Went to 2 bells".. - Who's to say thats American anyway!? .. Some people need to get a bit more of a life..

Sheesh, relax US FD Superstar, no need to get so defensive about some lighthearted stirring, not doubt you delt with more than that in the US. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 17, 2008, 09:48:23 PM
I would probably actually use "Bells" more than "Alarms" in conversation with other firies/mates.. I know when to switch off.. Not like some.. :) & Im not from NSW (or the mexican state) so I don't say "make 'trucks'"..  :wink:

Don't worry, im relaxed.. Im not the one hung up on the way people talk.. ;) hehe .. Getting over eating "gritz" was the hardest part.. :P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on September 18, 2008, 12:04:06 AM
its...interesting?  getting a bit thin out there these days...

clearly you've not been around very long....or still wearing those rose coloured glasses....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 18, 2008, 12:46:30 AM
nah...it just seems to becoming more obvious...eg being called to do a Medical case as first responder recently.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on September 18, 2008, 07:06:05 AM
Nothing wrong with helping the SAAS team at medical calls Naracoorte brigade and salt creek(r3) have been doing it for years,last year SAAS from here where out of twon in penola and they had two call come in at once for jobs in Naracoorte rather than page the next SAAS unit which is almost 50kms away we where paged  and by the time we got from the fire station to the saas staion and got therir second bus out they where there and we worked as a team...

We have done training with SAAS and a number of Naracoorte members are approved SAAS drivers...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 18, 2008, 08:33:42 AM
I would probably actually use "Bells" more than "Alarms" in conversation with other firies/mates.. I know when to switch off.. Not like some.. :) & Im not from NSW (or the mexican state) so I don't say "make 'trucks'"..  :wink:

I didn't know you were from the sates either Mr. Supercrank! ;) You of all people should know that our all our eastern comrades from Cairns through to Warrnambool removed 'Make trucks' from their respective lexicons years ago!

Now all we need is to adopt the UK "Shout". Far more Pub-like and relaxing than "Fire call" or "Callout" :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on September 18, 2008, 03:23:32 PM
Quote
nah...it just seems to becoming more obvious...eg being called to do a Medical case as first responder recently.

MFS: *CFSRES INC036 14/09/08 10:43,RESPOND Assist SAAS,20 GRANTLEY AV,VICTOR HARBOR MAP 309 Q 10 TG195,,VHB719

Interesting job on the weekend, SAAS had a Cat 1 job at Victor Harbor, from what I could tell on the scanner the closest cars were at Willunga. Comm's called up and relayed to the crew that firies (MFS) had been responded as there was no one close by and they had an AED, SAPOL had also been responded to assist.

First time I had heard them actually admit to responding the fire service as a first responder, I guess when you have no other option though. As it turns out I think they got an off duty crew into Victor to assist and they got there before the other cars.

I know that SAAS are keen to expand the first responder program and will likely target vollies from other emergency services in the rural areas. Should be interesting to see what eventuates.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 18, 2008, 03:44:45 PM
Sounds like a great idea to cover all bases, especially in areas that are more prone to shortages than others.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on September 18, 2008, 10:56:18 PM
perhaps SAAS should seriously look at reasons as to why their area coverage is RS....and start looking at those who sit in front of 3 screens at a desk and tell the cars where to go.......i'll think they'd find the answers quickly....

but...employ peanuts and make em work like monkeys, but pay them well..and there is no incentive to do better!  There's a seriously good reason why a large chunk of the SAAS comms Senior staff are considering jumping ship.....but management just turn the blind eye to it and hope that the good will of staff will continue!



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on September 19, 2008, 12:32:21 PM
Maybe its about time they started training all brigades even ones which only get maybe 5 or 10 calls a year as SAAS first responders so if the situation when SAAS assist comes up then the closest brigade could be called  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on September 19, 2008, 04:31:37 PM
Alot of these brigades including yours robert struggle to crew a truck to a fire.  Are you really going to be able to get a crew enthused about being trained as first responders?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 19, 2008, 05:57:51 PM
Alot of these brigades including yours robert struggle to crew a truck to a fire.  Are you really going to be able to get a crew enthused about being trained as first responders?

Yeah! They'll be the first ones there 45 minutes after the call!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Ringer on September 19, 2008, 06:02:04 PM
Maybe its about time they started training all brigades even ones which only get maybe 5 or 10 calls a year as SAAS first responders so if the situation when SAAS assist comes up then the closest brigade could be called  :-)

Robert I am pretty certain SAAS first responders are required to do a skills maintenance package each year just like members of St John do, this means they are actually required to turn up to Brigade training sessions to get their skills signed off. When was the last time you attended brigade training????????? If you where a member of St John you would have been asked to hand your uniform in a long time ago for not completing your skills maintenance. If you don't beleive me why not turn up to training and ask your BTO I beleive he is still a member of St John. :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on September 19, 2008, 10:29:02 PM
20:37:40 19-09-08 For info: Central Region Commander has advised that the weather for Sunday evening to Monday is expected to be similar to last Monday - DO
                  -= Western Adelaide SES Info =-
Mmmmmm....................more windy weather  8-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on September 20, 2008, 07:09:03 AM
Robert,There is no need to train every brigade but may be one or two of the larger brigade's with in a group who have members that are willing and able to do the training but also are willing to get right into the red and brown stuff.Its more than just putting a band aid on someone hand and I can tell you its filtered hard work pumping on someone chest till SAAS get there

I am well aware of a number of brigade's within CFS that have or are looking at buying O2 and AED out of their own funds so as to help SAAS but also to look after their own members at a job. SAAS numbers are low both in the staff and the volunteer stations,time they fixed that problem may be take those members out of comms and put them back on the road??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on September 20, 2008, 09:16:43 AM
Too bad we cant go back to the Good Ol Days when there was hardly a shortage of SAAS crews  :roll: :-) 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on September 20, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
The good old days are long gone time to move on in life....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on September 20, 2008, 03:51:43 PM
Maybe its about time they started training all brigades even ones which only get maybe 5 or 10 calls a year as SAAS first responders so if the situation when SAAS assist comes up then the closest brigade could be called  :-)

Robert I am pretty certain SAAS first responders are required to do a skills maintenance package each year just like members of St John do, this means they are actually required to turn up to Brigade training sessions to get their skills signed off. When was the last time you attended brigade training????????? If you where a member of St John you would have been asked to hand your uniform in a long time ago for not completing your skills maintenance. If you don't beleive me why not turn up to training and ask your BTO I beleive he is still a member of St John. :-D

You are correct Ringer, the vollie crews now have to do Cert 4 Training to keep up their skills.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on September 20, 2008, 04:36:26 PM
Its more than just putting a band aid on someone hand and I can tell you its filtered hard work pumping on someone chest till SAAS get there

Too much work?  Easy solution......

http://www.zoll.com/product.aspx?id=84
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on September 22, 2008, 06:07:15 PM
14:22:03 22-09-08 STURT INFO: THANK YOU TO ALL INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING THE CADETS AT PEDAL PRIX. WE FINISHED 46 OUT OF 67 IN OUR CATAGORY. THE CADETS PEDALED 260 LAPS, OR 559KM, IN 24 HRS AND WERE AWARDED 2ND PLACE FOR BEST PRESENTED TEAM/VEHICLE. CFS Sturt Group Info

Congrats to the cadets
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on September 22, 2008, 06:32:31 PM
Best Presented Bike/Team???
Wasnt expecting that, was a very basic design, but im sure the crews put lots into it.
I hope the Yorke Shark got best presented, those that were there for the weekend will know what im talking about
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on September 24, 2008, 05:52:42 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC052 24/09/08 17:11,RESPOND Assist SAAS,SANDALWOOD ,SANDALWOOD MAP 000 0 0 TG204,1KM TOWARDS KAROONDA FROM SANDALWOOD,PERSON STUCK 35MTR UP IN CHERRY PICKER,HALD00 KARD19 CFS Karoonda Response


Now theres a reason for a Aerial Appliance in the Sticks.  :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on September 24, 2008, 06:00:16 PM
Should have an escape system, and be able to lower the bucket from the ground - loxtons vertical rescue unit could help as well.
Or one of those nets you see on the old movies "Jump you filtered jump" I think how the song goes  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on September 29, 2008, 06:27:46 PM
1906658 16:55:48 29-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC043 29/09/08 16:54,RESPOND Assist Police,PRINCES EAST HWY,MT GAMBIER DISTRICT MAP 0 O 0,ROAD BLOCK/DIVERSION REQUIRED AT MT GAMB,IER SALE YARDS. CONTACT DAVID MT GAMBIER,MTG029 SES Mt Gambier Response

Hmmm does anyone else know anything about this one  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on September 29, 2008, 06:37:37 PM
Just trying to find out.

All i got so far was a spill on the princes hwy in victoria.  Highway is closed.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on September 29, 2008, 06:41:23 PM
Or maybe a truck full of farmers union iced coffee tipped over  :lol:.... sounds like the spill must have been big enough for the highway to be closed off going out of Mount Gambier 

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on September 29, 2008, 08:42:54 PM
Pager batteries are no longer stored in the station. Contact Comms officer for any pager battery requirements. If you need one to shut up a pager with a flat battery, See Ken at the servo. For all other batteries see Equip Officer. - KANGA CFS Kangarilla Info


someones  a bit cranky  :-o or am i reading this the wrong way??
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on September 29, 2008, 08:59:17 PM
NEW FIRE TRUCK ARRIVES AT MINTARO 7:00PM NEXT TUESDAY PLEASE ATTEND SPECIAL TRAINING SESSION IF AT ALL POSSIBLE -ROD CFS Mintaro Info

Hmmm wonder what it will be?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on September 29, 2008, 09:29:04 PM
NEW FIRE TRUCK ARRIVES AT MINTARO 7:00PM NEXT TUESDAY PLEASE ATTEND SPECIAL TRAINING SESSION IF AT ALL POSSIBLE -ROD CFS Mintaro Info

Hmmm wonder what it will be?

I have a feeling its a Volvo...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on September 29, 2008, 09:47:29 PM
NEW FIRE TRUCK ARRIVES AT MINTARO 7:00PM NEXT TUESDAY PLEASE ATTEND SPECIAL TRAINING SESSION IF AT ALL POSSIBLE -ROD CFS Mintaro Info

Hmmm wonder what it will be?

I have a feeling its a Volvo...

They wish  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 29, 2008, 10:58:24 PM
Pager batteries are no longer stored in the station. Contact Comms officer for any pager battery requirements. If you need one to shut up a pager with a flat battery, See Ken at the servo. For all other batteries see Equip Officer. - KANGA CFS Kangarilla Info


someones  a bit cranky  :-o or am i reading this the wrong way??

Reading the wrong way.. ;)


LOL @ the volvo comment.. Classic..


Rob.. Yes, one can only assume it is big enough to close the freeway.. Hence the response.. :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on September 30, 2008, 06:28:27 PM
 *CFSRES INC035 30/09/08 13:52,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,5 FYFE ST,GAWLER WEST MAP 23 H 11 TG182,VEHICLE IN SHED NOT ATTACHED TO HOUSE,GAW359 ELZ331 

MFS: *CFSRES INC038 30/09/08 14:10,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,LYNDOCH RD,GAWLER EAST MAP 23 Q 7 TG182,TRUCK FIRE - NEAR THE HOSPITAL,ELZ331 ELZ332 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

1909800 13:58:05 30-09-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC037 30/09/08 13:57,RESPOND Smoke in Area,WOODYATES AV,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 61 C 14 TG182,SMOKE IN AREA AROUND GROUP OF UNITS JUST, OFF WOODYATES ROAD,SAIR55 SAL329

Thats a worry, gawler truck on a call, both elizabeth trucks in gawler on a call and one of the salisburys on a call. I'd hope my house wouldn't catch on fire in gawler or elizabeth!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on September 30, 2008, 09:34:15 PM
Callouts happen.. You just 'not going to go' incase there is another one closer?

Im sure the comcen boys had it well in hand..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on September 30, 2008, 11:38:59 PM
Sigh, I love when people second guess whats happening

331 was diverted to COQ 35 for the first call

332 was diverted COQ 35 for the second call

359 then went K4 so 332 went back to 33

301 went COQ to 32

It was all in hand.

Thankyou, come again...

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on October 01, 2008, 12:53:15 AM
But the pager system shows everything that happens...doesn't it?   :evil:

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Katrina on October 01, 2008, 06:49:46 AM
Your exactly right Pip, all those important facts are down there so everyone else can understand exactly why Comms did what they did LOL  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on October 01, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
Firstly, the pager doesn't show EVERYTHING.
i didn't see where 321 was or coq's for 301.
Secondly, i was just being sarcastic about how some many trucks were on a call around one district, thats all, no need to make a big deal :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bittenyakka on October 01, 2008, 12:04:41 PM
Yeah we know the pager site doesn;t show everything hence everyone is having a go at you. you will soon learn that this discussion happens about once a week at least.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on October 01, 2008, 02:05:39 PM
It doesnt your kidding me, god i swore i saw this the other day and knew everything that was happeneing.

1925587 04:45:43 30-09-08 JC WOKE UP JC Roxby
1925587 04:49:59 30-09-08 JC HAD A SHOWER JC Roxby
1925587 04:58:23 30-09-08 JC HAD SOME TOAST JC Roxby
1925587 05:10:42 30-09-08 JC MADE HIS LUNCH JC Roxby
1925587 05:25:02 30-09-08 JC WENT TO WORK JC Roxby 


 :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on October 01, 2008, 04:08:25 PM
It doesnt your kidding me, god i swore i saw this the other day and knew everything that was happeneing.

1925587 04:45:43 30-09-08 JC WOKE UP JC Roxby
1925587 04:49:59 30-09-08 JC HAD A SHOWER JC Roxby
1925587 04:58:23 30-09-08 JC HAD SOME TOAST JC Roxby
1925587 05:10:42 30-09-08 JC MADE HIS LUNCH JC Roxby
1925587 05:25:02 30-09-08 JC WENT TO WORK JC Roxby 


 :-D :-D :-D

No JC, that can't have happened. SOP's dictate that JC must clean his teeth and urinate before leaving for work. How on earth can it take 15 mintues to make lunch! This is just stupidity on somones part. Do you know what else could have been achieved in that time frame?!

I'm sorry, but I just can't believe in this day and age this is still happening. This is why we need JCCAD.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 01, 2008, 04:40:23 PM
1909055   14:38:20   01-10-08   CORO INFO: MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 34 RETURNED TO STATOIN, ALL IN ONE PIECE - ALEX CFS Coromandel Valley Info

Wall of Shame appliance??  :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on October 01, 2008, 05:23:10 PM
1925587 04:46:43 30-09-08 JC NEEDS TO GET A LIFE JC Roxby
1925587 04:48:43 30-09-08 JC WAITS FOR HIS PAGER TO GO OFF BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FULL TIME FIREMAN IN THE MFS Roxby
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 01, 2008, 05:26:50 PM
riiiiiiiight.......eh.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: JC on October 01, 2008, 05:47:04 PM
1925587 04:46:43 30-09-08 JC NEEDS TO GET A LIFE JC Roxby
1925587 04:48:43 30-09-08 JC WAITS FOR HIS PAGER TO GO OFF BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FULL TIME FIREMAN IN THE MFS Roxby
No im not and i dont realy care if my pager goes off or not.  :wink:
MFS are not the only paid / full time fire service in SA.

Sorry numbers i got a bit fancy that day. Vegimite & cheese.  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on October 01, 2008, 06:17:39 PM
1925587 04:46:43 30-09-08 JC NEEDS TO GET A LIFE JC Roxby
1925587 04:48:43 30-09-08 JC WAITS FOR HIS PAGER TO GO OFF BECAUSE HE'S NOT A FULL TIME FIREMAN IN THE MFS Roxby

Oh man, you so got him there!

Sorry numbers i got a bit fancy that day. Vegimite & cheese.  :-)

Too late for your logical explanation, the grievance form is already in.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on October 02, 2008, 06:52:14 AM
You like Vegimite & cheese? So do I, nice reply JC & Numbers you seem so controlled these days - whats going on?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on October 02, 2008, 09:10:05 AM
You like Vegimite & cheese? So do I, nice reply JC & Numbers you seem so controlled these days - whats going on?


One Word Chook .........RITILIN
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on October 02, 2008, 11:56:29 AM
Gotta love the Operator assisted pager messages:

18:12:58 01-10-08 PLS PH AIR HEAD QUARTERS DUTY PHONE - YOU KNOW NUMBER
Ses

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 02, 2008, 06:18:41 PM
Hehehe.. Nice find pip..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on October 02, 2008, 06:54:46 PM
You like Vegimite & cheese? So do I, nice reply JC & Numbers you seem so controlled these days - whats going on?

Getting on a bit. I can't spend my nights drunk and getting into fights anymore. :( Mummy said no!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on October 03, 2008, 06:43:25 AM
Thats no good - need to find something else destructive to do :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on October 03, 2008, 07:59:13 PM
Numbers already does the destructive bit here       :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on October 06, 2008, 03:35:35 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC064 05/10/08 21:16,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,COMPTON CFS,COMPTON MAP 0 0 0 TG226,1ST HOUSE ON RIGHT ON STONY FLAT RD OF M,ILLICENT HWY- FLAMES COMING FROM CHIMNEY,COMP00 WNDL00 CFS Compton Response

Gee we knew you were bored Camo but what the.... :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on October 09, 2008, 04:44:56 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:40,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,BACK UP PT AUGUSTA - PRISON RIOT - PRIOR,ITY 1,ADL206 PPI501 PPI509 MFS Pt Pirie

MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:14,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,STAND-BY AT MAIN GATE AT REQUEST OF X CFS Stirling North Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC065 09/10/08 16:48,RESPOND To,NAPPERBY CFS,NAPPERBY MAP 0 0 0 TG074,CHANGE QUARTERS TO PIRIE ASAP,NAPP00 CFS Napperby Response

MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 50 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response

Nice P1 for 206 and CFS doing COQ's to.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 49194 on October 09, 2008, 05:22:43 PM
My shift is just starting our 14 hour night shift.. See what the evening holds..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on October 09, 2008, 05:36:28 PM
Send in the tear gas and the dogs....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 49194 on October 09, 2008, 05:43:38 PM
I'm lucky enough to be 90 mins away.. Don't fancy playing in teargas tonight, but, who knows what might happen..

But for now, its dinner time! ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 09, 2008, 06:52:41 PM
Nah send in the airfield tenders from Edinburgh as they have water cannons  :-)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on October 10, 2008, 12:47:15 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:40,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,BACK UP PT AUGUSTA - PRISON RIOT - PRIOR,ITY 1,ADL206 PPI501 PPI509

are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on October 10, 2008, 01:42:49 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC059 09/10/08 16:40,RESPOND To,NATIONAL HIGHWAY 1 ,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,BACK UP PT AUGUSTA - PRISON RIOT - PRIOR,ITY 1,ADL206 PPI501 PPI509

are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........are we there yet?.........



Your one twisted sandshoe 206, being so keen to go to jail and all! :-D
Reminds me that "neccesity is the mother of all invention" yep I bet it was some inmate of the bighouse that figured out that something like "soap on a rope", made for a less eventful  showertime  :-o
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on October 10, 2008, 11:47:21 AM
Lol!  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 10, 2008, 03:22:05 PM
1909187 15:13:31 10-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 10/10/08 15:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HUMBUG SCRUB RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 M 11 TG102,SMALL FIRE IN PARA WIRRA REC PARK,CALL FROM TERRY [GREEN HOUSE AT PARK ENT,RANCE],SAIR55 OTHL00 CFS Para Group Officers Response

 :-o to think Humbug Scrub was on a lucky streak until today  :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on October 10, 2008, 03:49:29 PM
1909187 15:13:31 10-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 10/10/08 15:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HUMBUG SCRUB RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 M 11 TG102,SMALL FIRE IN PARA WIRRA REC PARK,CALL FROM TERRY [GREEN HOUSE AT PARK ENT,RANCE],SAIR55 OTHL00 CFS Para Group Officers Response

 :-o to think Humbug Scrub was on a lucky streak until today  :|
by the sound of it, it's only a burn-off.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on October 10, 2008, 07:55:47 PM
1909187 15:13:31 10-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC036 10/10/08 15:12,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,HUMBUG SCRUB RD,YATTALUNGA MAP 54 M 11 TG102,SMALL FIRE IN PARA WIRRA REC PARK,CALL FROM TERRY [GREEN HOUSE AT PARK ENT,RANCE],SAIR55 OTHL00 CFS Para Group Officers Response

 :-o to think Humbug Scrub was on a lucky streak until today  :|

"Adelaide Fire Morialta 14 responding to scrub fire Humbug Scrub over" DEH saves the day :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 10, 2008, 11:14:51 PM
i think that has to really bug Adelaide Fire to bits!!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on October 11, 2008, 07:19:59 AM
Why?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 11, 2008, 08:52:06 AM
Cos DEH self-respond along to CFS jobs, just by watching the paging feed......bit lame at this time of the year,  but alright in the height of summer i guess.   It would be nice if Adelaide fire had the ability to page the DEH Bases. also identifying themselves as "DEH Morialta 14" would help...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on October 11, 2008, 09:02:07 AM
Cos DEH self-respond along to CFS jobs, just by watching the paging feed......bit lame at this time of the year,  but alright in the height of summer i guess.   It would be nice if Adelaide fire had the ability to page the DEH Bases. also identifying themselves as "DEH Morialta 14" would help...

I didnt realise DEH actually operated through adelaide fire anyway
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 11, 2008, 09:25:13 AM
Somebody's gotta begin the resource tracking of those rougies ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on October 13, 2008, 11:04:18 PM
17:03:58   13-10-08   to all mundoo members the fire season has been brought foward to the 15th november 2008  CFS Mundoo Group Info

So does someone now something that even headquarters state they don't or are they guessing?

QUOTE from AdelaideNow news site 13/10/08
"SATELLITE images suggest the fire danger season is approaching faster than the Country Fire Service is prepared to admit.

The Bureau of Meteorology predicts the state is "ready to burn fairly soon", but the CFS is yet to declare when the fire ban season will begin."

Cheers
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on October 13, 2008, 11:10:41 PM
There is a lot CFS are'nt telling us :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on October 13, 2008, 11:15:34 PM
Just some over excited person who enjoys sending out pager messages i should think.

No dates have been formally released, and if you look at the CFS site, they are just showing the standard dates, ie; 1st December for MLR.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on October 13, 2008, 11:22:47 PM
Nah they have it nailed, 15th seems to be the date :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on October 13, 2008, 11:57:07 PM
Nah they have it nailed, 15th seems to be the date :wink:

Would lvoe to know where this info has come from?
As i would have expected to hear/read this somewhere considering my employer... and yet i havent....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on October 14, 2008, 09:04:51 AM
The dates for this fire season are supposed to be Gazetted this Wednesday - so all dates will be official then.

I heard a CFS spokesman talking last week about the Fire Danger Season, and indicated that it is likely that the dates are going to be brought forward two weeks.

I guess we will find out for sure tomorrow!!

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 14, 2008, 09:10:25 AM
Fire Danger Season's all year round...if ya get what i mean ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on October 14, 2008, 11:44:50 AM
1909068 12:09:07 14-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 14/10/08 12:07,RESPOND Fire Alarm,ADELAIDE RD,MCCRACKEN MAP 310 F 2 TG195,DEFAULT FROM VICTOR MFS MCKRAKEN AGED CA,RE OPPOSITE LUTHERAN AGED CARE,HIND00 CFS Hindmarsh Valley Response

MFS defaulting to CFS, dont see that every day!!  :evil: I think MFS were at another job but still highlights the importance of the two fire services.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 14, 2008, 12:05:41 PM
It is extremely rare for them to default through lack of crew. But they did call for SES pretty quickly for the earlier job, so maybe one of those days when no one is around.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on October 14, 2008, 12:28:54 PM
Fire Danger Season's all year round...if ya get what i mean ;)

I'm referring to the Gazetted Fire Danger Season - which is not all year round   :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on October 14, 2008, 12:32:03 PM
Fire Danger is 24/7/365 tho...and the CFS needs to promote THAT...not just the RURAL Fire danger Season...grrr, not aimed at you pip :)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on October 15, 2008, 02:58:54 PM
R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on October 15, 2008, 04:57:32 PM
R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop
Or earlier as the grass dries out at a rapid rate.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on October 15, 2008, 10:46:13 PM
R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop
Or earlier as the grass dries out at a rapid rate.

how i understand it Euan made his decision by today because if they want to bring it forward they have to give 14 days notice or something.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on October 15, 2008, 11:01:06 PM

R2HQ:FYI FIRE SEASON START DATES - MID NORTH 15TH NOV 2008 - MT LOFTY RANGES 15TH NOV 2008- YORKE PENINSULA 15TH NOV 2008 - MURRAYLANDS 15TH NOV 2008. 15/10/2008 15:11:42 CFS R2 Fire Bans Maildrop

So it looks like someone in the Mundoo group has their finger on the pulse after all.  If only they could predict the big incidents a couple of days before they start we could really do some forward planning.   :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on October 16, 2008, 06:41:22 AM
1909068 12:09:07 14-10-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 14/10/08 12:07,RESPOND Fire Alarm,ADELAIDE RD,MCCRACKEN MAP 310 F 2 TG195,DEFAULT FROM VICTOR MFS MCKRAKEN AGED CA,RE OPPOSITE LUTHERAN AGED CARE,HIND00 CFS Hindmarsh Valley Response

MFS defaulting to CFS, dont see that every day!!  :evil: I think MFS were at another job but still highlights the importance of the two fire services.

Nah wasn't a default, was for the 2nd truck...they were stopped shortly after
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 24pumper on October 16, 2008, 09:05:44 AM
It is extremely rare for them to default through lack of crew. But they did call for SES pretty quickly for the earlier job, so maybe one of those days when no one is around.

Strange that they didnt go through Adelaide Fire to default to SES, as they did with CFS. As it appears both times SES have been responded its come from a local page from SES people???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 16, 2008, 10:29:20 AM
They didn't actually default..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on October 16, 2008, 10:38:06 AM
It is extremely rare for them to default through lack of crew. But they did call for SES pretty quickly for the earlier job, so maybe one of those days when no one is around.

Strange that they didnt go through Adelaide Fire to default to SES, as they did with CFS. As it appears both times SES have been responded its come from a local page from SES people???

They didn't default for the RCR, South Coast SES has a member in the Victor police....no more needs to be said on that  :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on October 16, 2008, 03:08:15 PM
And Goolwa police. :wink:

They have a bit of a habit for self turning out, i was surprised they didn't self respond to the fatal we had the other day.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Seagrave on October 16, 2008, 05:41:08 PM
Thats no different to the unit that responds to fire service calls off the pager site/pdw!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: safireservice on October 16, 2008, 09:43:19 PM
CAPTAIN CRAIG HOLT IS ON 891 SM BROADCASTING FROM THE WATERFALL GULLY KIOSK
-= CFS Burnside Info =-
So what did he have to say?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on October 17, 2008, 07:47:02 AM
More interesting is what song did they play after and did they sum him up with it?

HAHA
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on October 17, 2008, 11:34:46 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 16/10/08 09:10,RESPOND Fire Alarm,GRAND BVD,SEAFORD MAP 195 L 15 TG134,ELDERCARE SEAFORD,SEAF00 CDN439 MRPH00 OHH421

Great to see that the big black hole of curious responses still exists!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Morgan on October 17, 2008, 01:30:21 PM
Quote
More interesting is what song did they play after and did they sum him up with it?

HAHA

we didn't start the fire no we didn't light but we try to fight it............ :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on October 17, 2008, 02:11:14 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC014 16/10/08 09:10,RESPOND Fire Alarm,GRAND BVD,SEAFORD MAP 195 L 15 TG134,ELDERCARE SEAFORD,SEAF00 CDN439 MRPH00 OHH421

Great to see that the big black hole of curious responses still exists!

Thats pretty normal for down there... :|
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on October 17, 2008, 02:19:02 PM
Thats pretty normal for down there... :|

Yeah, I had thought it was getting better, but shes still a little vortex of extraordinary retardation.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pixie on October 17, 2008, 02:27:13 PM
The weird thing about that call numbers is that it didn't come through as a *WFAM* or whatever its called. which it should. I didn't go because i was at uni, so cant shed anymore light on it.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on November 06, 2008, 10:48:24 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 06/11/08 09:11,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 E 4 TG182,IN FRONT OF THE MANSIONS - RUBBISH BIN,SAIR55 STM401

MFS: *CFSRES INC018 06/11/08 11:18,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,26 LERON AV,ENFIELD MAP 106 G 2 TG182,K99 ON ARRIVAL.,31 MFS Car 31
1926877 11:16:39 06-11-08 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION,321 TO STN 37,332 TO STN 30 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response

MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION, BOUNDARY OF 30 AND 36 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1909187 11:28:58 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Para Group Officers Response
1909191 11:28:56 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
1908995 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Burnside Response
1908991 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Lofty Group Officers Response

What's going on here?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 06, 2008, 11:25:32 AM
A default for Change of Quarters, thats different...

11:48:41   06-11-08   TTG has defaulted, not enough crew. Capt CFS Tea Tree Gully Info

Looks like north eastern suburbs needs an extra appliance, the northern suburbs really turns to the shits at times...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: misterteddy on November 06, 2008, 11:58:59 AM
and while we are looking at "whats going on here"....

1909193 18:05:31 05-11-08 GOOD AFTER NOON -- COULD PERSONEL WITH SPECIALISED SKILLS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE SAT NIGHT CONTACT DALKEITH CAPT WITH INFO IMEDIATELY -- AS THIS WILL HAVE A VITAL BEARING ON OUR RESPONSE FOR SAT NIGHT -- CALL 0418893967 CFS Dalkeith Info

and

1909196 13:04:48 06-11-08 I require 2 or 3 members to carry out a composite active stand by at Dalkeith Station on Saturday night, 18:00 - 23:00. You will be fed and well looked after. Ring Captain if you are interested. CFS Tea Tree Gully Info

anyone got clues?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: misterteddy on November 06, 2008, 12:04:31 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC015 06/11/08 09:11,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,PULTENEY ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 E 4 TG182,IN FRONT OF THE MANSIONS - RUBBISH BIN,SAIR55 STM401

MFS: *CFSRES INC018 06/11/08 11:18,RESPOND DOMESTIC FIRE,26 LERON AV,ENFIELD MAP 106 G 2 TG182,K99 ON ARRIVAL.,31 MFS Car 31
1926877 11:16:39 06-11-08 MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION,321 TO STN 37,332 TO STN 30 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response

MFS: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION, BOUNDARY OF 30 AND 36 MFS Elizabeth 332 Response
1909187 11:28:58 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Para Group Officers Response
1909191 11:28:56 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 31 CFS Tea Tree Gully Response
1908995 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Burnside Response
1908991 11:28:00 06-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES: CHANGE QUARTERS TO STATION 44 CFS Lofty Group Officers Response

What's going on here?


from the Tiser site

FIRE has destroyed the rear of an empty house at Enfield. (Inc 018)

The fire at the property on Leron Ave was reported by a passer-by at 11.15am and took 30 Metropolitan Fire Service firefighters 15 minutes to bring under control.

Damage is estimated at $150,000 and fire cause investigators are at the scene.


At the same time there was a Factory Fire at Edwardstown so I'm guessing there was a bit of a shortage of red appliances for a while..... shame about the TTG response, but there cant have ben too much concern as I didnt see a replacement paged
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 06, 2008, 12:09:12 PM
and while we are looking at "whats going on here"....

1909193 18:05:31 05-11-08 GOOD AFTER NOON -- COULD PERSONEL WITH SPECIALISED SKILLS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE SAT NIGHT CONTACT DALKEITH CAPT WITH INFO IMEDIATELY -- AS THIS WILL HAVE A VITAL BEARING ON OUR RESPONSE FOR SAT NIGHT -- CALL 0418893967 CFS Dalkeith Info

and

1909196 13:04:48 06-11-08 I require 2 or 3 members to carry out a composite active stand by at Dalkeith Station on Saturday night, 18:00 - 23:00. You will be fed and well looked after. Ring Captain if you are interested. CFS Tea Tree Gully Info

anyone got clues?

Seems like a drastic step to ensure Fire Cover for the typically busy saturday night...

Woulda thought they would ask One Tree Hill.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on November 06, 2008, 06:21:34 PM
Perhaps Dalkeith have a social do planned, and want to makes sure all members have an opportunity to attend, without having to worry about being called out for a period of time.

Nothing new in that.   

Pip 
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 07, 2008, 07:59:35 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC002 07/11/08 00:48,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PRINCES HWY,TAILEM BEND MAP 0 0 0 TG206,5KM WEST OF TAILEM BEND,TLEM19 COOK00

MFS: *CFSRES INC002 07/11/08 00:51,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,PRINCES HWY,TAILEM BEND MAP 0 0 0 TG206,5KM EAST OF TAILEM BEND,BETWEEN TAILEM & MURRAY BRIDGE,TLEM19 MURR00

MFS: COOKE PLAINS *** STOP CALL *** 5KM EAST OF TAILEM, NOT WEST


Hmm,  pretty sure Murray Bridge is West of Tailem Bend.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: adelaide_medic on November 08, 2008, 10:39:21 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC110 08/11/08 00:12,RESPOND Tree Down,NATIVE AV,MT BARKER MAP 184 F 6 TG128,TREE DOWN ACROSS ROAD NEAR BONYTHON,RD.SES CANNOT GET CREW, MBKR19 CFS Mount Barker Response

Bit concerning that SES cannot get crew at Midnight on a Friday night...

What do people think?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on November 08, 2008, 10:53:16 AM

What do people think?


I think, vollunteer service on a night that a lot of people are out socialising...

Anyway, dont forget to set the drag ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert on November 08, 2008, 11:28:53 AM
That’s the norm for Adelaide Hills SES now, they have been defaulting 24/7 regardless of what day it is. Time something was done about it…….
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on November 08, 2008, 04:32:10 PM
That’s the norm for Adelaide Hills SES now, they have been defaulting 24/7 regardless of what day it is. Time something was done about it…….


Yeah Yeah I agree Robert, lets start with docking their overtime pay, if that doesn't get results, its no leave loading and if we still get no results cut their superannuation payments. Leave it to me  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on November 11, 2008, 08:24:37 AM
21:53:43 10-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response

Hmmmmm...was she trying to make whatever burn quicker ??  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 11, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
Petrols the only way the burn things in some places....but diesel wont kill you :P

Had a look up at the Mt Osmond hills face while driving home from work yesterday,  the grass land looks like its 85-100% cured.....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on November 11, 2008, 09:40:48 AM
heard that this was a Stump in driveway about 1 metre high burnt, no petrol in sight, lady had dug a pit around it to "make it safe..." even tho it was next to large gum tree and house
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on November 11, 2008, 09:51:06 AM
20:33:05 10-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC071 10/11/08 20:32,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,MONASH MAP 000 0 0 TG206,1 CAR MVA NEAR SPEEDWAY,POSS ENTRAPMENT,LYRP00 MNSH00 CFS Lyrup Response

MFS: *CFSRES INC072 10/11/08 20:34,RESPOND RCR,STURT HWY,BERRI MAP 0 0 0 TG203,1 ENTRAPMENT. LIGHTING REQUIRED. OPPOSIT,E SPEEDWAY PARK,BRI029 GLOS00 CFS Glossop Response

Interesting response sendin three CFS trucks into MFS area.
I'm led to believe that MFS crew were at training and would have been there in under two minutes if correct response was initiated...



Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: misterteddy on November 11, 2008, 10:08:27 AM
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.

Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.

No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on November 11, 2008, 10:29:52 AM
....Had a look up at the Mt Osmond hills face while driving home from work yesterday,  the grass land looks like its 85-100% cured.....

This is the first CFS SCC activation I have seen for this fire season:

11:43:24 11-11-08 CFS: STATE LEVEL OF PREPAREDNESS RED - SCC PARTIAL ACTIVATION. INTEL COORD, MLO, HOTLINE, SCC COORD & SARC REQUIRED TO ATTEND SCC - DSC EDEN < 11/11/2008 11:43:13 PM CFS HQ Info

CFS website from CRIIMSON details 5 going fire incidents in SA. Some in the Adelaide Hills......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 11, 2008, 10:49:31 AM
They are "Going" till its manually updated lol....so they arent necessarily "Going".

2 Regions are just at LOP-RED, causing STATE > Red.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on November 11, 2008, 11:32:54 AM
They are "Going" till its manually updated lol....so they arent necessarily "Going".

2 Regions are just at LOP-RED, causing STATE > Red.

Thanks, so accuracy is dependant on SITREPS being timely & accurate from the field.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 11, 2008, 11:54:16 AM
the information on the website is pretty much 100% incorrect to what may be happening...the website status may say "going"...and may only change to completed 10 hours after its actually completed.  Its CFS SHQ who update it, only through the informtation that comes via Fire Reports or when ever the State Air Desk is operational, who essentially deals with processing these reports....etc.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: K55 on November 11, 2008, 01:09:55 PM
The Data on the CFS website is reproduced off of CRIIMSON which is the most up to date information contrary to Zippy's beliefs. For day to day incidents they will remain going for 2 hours after the last entry in CRIIMSON.
For most incidents the only information in CRIIMSON is the initial response and acknowledements depending on how enthusiastic the operator is. The incident summary on the website is for public information. It is not intended on being a resource tracking tool for over-enthusiastic,information craving volunteers...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: bajdas on November 11, 2008, 01:25:15 PM
The Data on the CFS website is reproduced off of CRIIMSON which is the most up to date information contrary to Zippy's beliefs. For day to day incidents they will remain going for 2 hours after the last entry in CRIIMSON.
For most incidents the only information in CRIIMSON is the initial response and acknowledements depending on how enthusiastic the operator is. The incident summary on the website is for public information. It is not intended on being a resource tracking tool for over-enthusiastic,information craving volunteers...

Thanks for the compliment    :roll:   But I am a computer nerd that loves to understand how the data moves through a system & thus accuracy of the presented public information, then an over-enthusiastic volunteer..

.. and I have been in emergency services long enough to know about 'resource tracking' & how hard that is. CRIIMSON contains some information (last time I accessed the Intranet website was 12 months plus ago) but never everything you need.

It will be interesting to see how the other agencies handle this facility when their new websites are launched.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on November 11, 2008, 03:37:39 PM
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.

Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.

No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???

how could they only have themselves to blame? seems like a quote without much to back it up. MFS train weekly, so dont tend to book themselves off because of a special event, e.g. training...

if you check out: MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response

reckon you will notice that they didnt book off for training.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on November 11, 2008, 04:15:24 PM
It wasn't sinister, if you ring alerts and thats what your told, what more can you do....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on November 11, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.

Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.

No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???

how could they only have themselves to blame? seems like a quote without much to back it up. MFS train weekly, so dont tend to book themselves off because of a special event, e.g. training...

if you check out: MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response

reckon you will notice that they didnt book off for training.

I think the 'have themselves to blame', refers to the fact that MFS would have dispatched them, so you would think they would get it right?.. (Not suggesting it wasn't right, one can only assume there was a reason the response was different to the norm)..
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on November 11, 2008, 07:35:42 PM
message understood...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: misterteddy on November 11, 2008, 07:58:38 PM
well.....i guess they only have themselves to blame if the response was incorrect.

Maybe they had booked offline for the duration of their training - so they handed their response roles to CFS for that particular time - most CFS Brigades do that at some stage if u have a specific drill underway.

No big deal really - or are u suggesting it is???

how could they only have themselves to blame? seems like a quote without much to back it up. MFS train weekly, so dont tend to book themselves off because of a special event, e.g. training...

if you check out: MFS: *CFSRES INC080 10/11/08 21:52,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,DRIDAN AV,RENMARK MAP 0 0 0 TG193,LADY THROWING PETROL ON FIRE. CLOSE TO H,OUSE AND TREES. FROM LOCAL POLICE,SAIR55 REN618 MFS Renmark Response

reckon you will notice that they didnt book off for training.

I think the 'have themselves to blame', refers to the fact that MFS would have dispatched them, so you would think they would get it right?.. (Not suggesting it wasn't right, one can only assume there was a reason the response was different to the norm)..

thanks fella....at least someone got it  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on November 11, 2008, 08:24:49 PM
And I didn't even need my thinkin' cap..  ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 12, 2008, 04:50:46 AM
The whole response to the Speedway job wasn't by the book, 1) that part of the Sturt hwy is Renmark's area both MFS & SES, 2) page asked for lighting & according to people from my old unit they assumed that Renmark was on scene already & they were just to provide lighting - very surprised when they arrived and found out they were the rescue crew.
Footy my understanding is that it would not have mattered how quick, fire cover and rescue arrived on seen, the end result would have been the same (if you get my meaning).
As been said before, its not a perfect world!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: misterteddy on November 12, 2008, 05:17:37 AM
just noticed that none of the SAAS pages are on the usual GRN paging site, from about 1800 last night, any clues nyone...nothing sinister I hope
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 12, 2008, 07:03:55 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC022 12/11/08 08:22,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,TORRENS RD,KILKENNY MAP 105 A 5 TG182,PERSON IN VEHICLE WITH POWER LINES DOWN,249 ON SCENE,31 MFS Car 31
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on November 12, 2008, 08:11:01 PM
I heard SAAS were switching to a secure link.
Anyone know any more?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on November 13, 2008, 07:54:53 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/11/08 21:31,RESPOND Tree Fire,ELDER SMITH RD,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 M 6 TG182,,SAIR55 GLO441

That's a bit far
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 13, 2008, 08:04:46 AM
again..its probably doing COQ or on the Run, and is the closest available pump.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on November 13, 2008, 08:12:13 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/11/08 21:31,RESPOND Tree Fire,ELDER SMITH RD,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 M 6 TG182,,SAIR55 GLO441

That's a bit far

That's next door compared with this:

MFS: *CFSRES INC113 12/11/08 21:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LOCK ,LOCK MAP 0 0 0 TG011,,SAIR55 GLO441
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 13, 2008, 08:14:37 AM
Lol.... the lock to their station?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on November 13, 2008, 12:08:08 PM
you idiot...region 6 perhaps??  :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 13, 2008, 12:32:20 PM
nuh duh, man this conversation feels like its on the back of a hillbilly 34.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 13, 2008, 06:34:59 PM
yep :roll:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on November 14, 2008, 12:55:46 PM
Poor Paringa, 1/6th of their yearly turnouts in a single 24hrs!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 14, 2008, 01:03:19 PM
Haha,  they wont know who they are now.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 14, 2008, 03:11:13 PM
MRPH INFO: 1 of 2 MORPHETT 24 (GUMERACHA 24) IS NOW OPERATIONAL. ALTHOUGH VERY SIMILAR TO M24 SOME THINGS ARE DIFFERENT. PLS MAKE YOURSELF FAMILIAR WITH THIS APPLIANCE AND TAKE IT FOR A DRIVE IF YOU NEED.

MRPH INFO: 2 of 2 THE DRIVERS SIDE HOSE REEL WORKS BUT NEEDS FURTHER MANUAL ASSISTANCE TO WIND UP. THIS WILL BE LOOKED INTO. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO ASSISTED WITH THE DELIVERY AND CHANGE OVER. LT2


Honestly, why cant Morphett Vale just be given a new truck!  Out to you guys, you deserve it!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 14, 2008, 03:18:01 PM
Agree only truly busy brigade without a new rural truck except for barker maybe
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 14, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
even the Urban capability of the 24P for there area is questionable.  Both trucks need to be updated pretty much.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Footy on November 14, 2008, 10:20:42 PM
where's hicks these days?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Darren on November 14, 2008, 10:21:14 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC106 12/11/08 21:31,RESPOND Tree Fire,ELDER SMITH RD,MAWSON LAKES MAP 82 M 6 TG182,,SAIR55 GLO441

That's a bit far

That's next door compared with this:

MFS: *CFSRES INC113 12/11/08 21:38,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,LOCK ,LOCK MAP 0 0 0 TG011,,SAIR55 GLO441


Haha, wondered when that would get noticed, we were testing Glen Osmond's MDT, decided to attach it to that job...see how long before SAFF picked it up !
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 15, 2008, 06:09:36 AM
Now that is funny - who said you back room people have no sense of humour! :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: CFS_Firey on November 15, 2008, 08:25:17 PM
Haha, wondered when that would get noticed, we were testing Glen Osmond's MDT, decided to attach it to that job...see how long before SAFF picked it up !

Got picked up in the amusing messages thread much earlier than here...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on November 19, 2008, 07:01:07 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC021 19/11/08 08:12,RESPOND Fire Alarm,HOSPITAL RD,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,FIRE ALARM IN THE ADMINISTRATION BDLG AT, THE HOSPITAL,PAU519 MFS Pt Augusta Response

Fire Call. More crew required URGENTLY one is not enough MFS Pt Augusta Response

hhhmmmm bugger....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: calspec on November 19, 2008, 08:38:34 AM
09:27:28 19-11-08 AS81 Cat2 Metropolitan Fire Service 99 Wakefield St, Adelaide 4 C10 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research

Oh No! What happened.  MVA involving a responding appliance???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 19, 2008, 08:40:55 AM
i heard over the radio, "are you clear of the wakney/pultfield relay, over", Nice dislexic moment there adelaide fire ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: OMGWTF on November 19, 2008, 08:43:01 AM
09:27:28 19-11-08 AS81 Cat2 Metropolitan Fire Service 99 Wakefield St, Adelaide 4 C10 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research

Oh No! What happened.  MVA involving a responding appliance???

Nah, heard there sitrep as car v pedestrian....  :-P
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: car31 on November 19, 2008, 10:19:17 AM
Response time should of been good if they were in station  :lol:

CT71 Cat3 Metropolitan Fire Service 99 Wakefield St, Adelaide 4 C10 POLICE REQUIRED SAAS Road Crash Research
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on November 20, 2008, 12:46:22 AM
Mod Note:  Deleted.....no need for the personal critique of grammar.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 12:10:32 PM
Ah, attack of the easily offended moderators!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Mike on November 20, 2008, 02:07:05 PM
Ah, attack of the easily offended moderators!

 :roll: cant please everyone  :roll:  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on November 20, 2008, 05:32:14 PM
Ah, attack of the easily offended moderators!

Im in a bad mood today....that line everyone has gets lowered quite a bit on days like today  :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 6739264 on November 20, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.

This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on November 20, 2008, 06:49:18 PM
we all do screw up volunteers and paid staff,CFS has a new course that is out its called......HOW TO BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET OVER IT.......
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Cameron Yelland on November 20, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.

This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.

Unfairly?  Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 20, 2008, 07:55:03 PM
I think there was more of a demographic attack than a personal attack :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: chook on November 20, 2008, 08:50:42 PM
Yeah I agree Big Al & I thought it was funny :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on November 20, 2008, 09:42:03 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.





hey fair call....we can't all be on HRT now can we??

as for demographic Vs personal attack?   - my apologies cameron for wanting to belittle people into bettering themselves, even if it is in the form of proper grammar and context.

I do understand that not everyone can have the same level of country SA public school education that I did....those metro eastern suburbs members of this forum pay a lot more for their schooling...and still use çontexts such as "you's guys" or "should of" or "could of". 

still I shouldn't be so harsh - not every professional volunteer could be expected to be able to read or write should they?! :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on November 20, 2008, 10:01:24 PM
Boredy  muma says prety soon i can use lead pencils she says they taste reel good to  they were uncle dadys favrite before he died like  home scoolin rox every days sports day  i been sporting a black eye for two weeks now and commas is only fa fancy people. :-D wish the smiley guy had one tooth missin
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hicksflat14 on November 21, 2008, 07:06:57 AM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.

This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.

Unfairly?  Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.

So going by this statement you wont be making any further remarks about Gambier group or your ex-brigade captain?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 21, 2008, 12:19:42 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC038 21/11/08 13:43,RESPOND RCR,DUKES HWY,YUMALI MAP 000 0 0 TG201,MINI BUS 18 KM ADELAIDE SIDE ENTRAPMENT, 8 X INJURED,CNPN19 CMDK00

Good example of a First Aid Triage incident, cos there wont be enough ambulances for it!

Assuming that if they might need 3 or 4 sent to Adelaide, would it be worthwhile responding RFDS to land on the Road? (somehow where-ever)

update: 1 DOA, 1 Entrap, 8 injured....not nice indeed.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 21, 2008, 12:33:10 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC039 21/11/08 13:51,RESPOND Private Alarm,2 HUMBER CT,HAPPY VALLEY MAP 178 D 7 TG134,,HPPY00 OHH421 CLDN00 MRPH00 STM401

2nd Alarm Private alarm, nice.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pixie on November 21, 2008, 01:13:26 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC041 21/11/08 14:33,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,SOUTHERN EXP,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 D 14 TG182,NEAR HONEYPOT RD OVER PASS,CDN439 SEAF00 MRPH00 STM401

Second Alarm vehicle fire??

Im guessing Christies 431 is booked K0 (broken?)

strange that 421 was missing from the 2nd response...
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on November 21, 2008, 01:33:22 PM
Quote
Assuming that if they might need 3 or 4 sent to Adelaide, would it be worthwhile responding RFDS to land on the Road? (somehow where-ever)

You spoke too soon Zippy  :lol: it looks like either Rescue 51 or Rescue 53 has been dispatched to the accident

1919347 14:30:07 21-11-08 MFS: PLEASE MONITOR GRN 020 FOR RESCUE HELICOPTER Coorong Group Officers Response

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: RescueHazmat on November 21, 2008, 02:39:20 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.

This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.

Unfairly?  Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.

So going by this statement you wont be making any further remarks about Gambier group or your ex-brigade captain?

Back to the topic:

Interesting Fire & Emergency Related Paging . . .
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 21, 2008, 03:44:24 PM
wish the paging streams had different text/background colours...my eyes are struggling these days to read the retro look.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: jaff on November 21, 2008, 04:06:41 PM
wish the paging streams had different text/background colours...my eyes are struggling these days to read the retro look.


Don't be suprised if you get headaches Zippy...............With a head like yours it ought to ache! :-) :lol: :-D
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on November 21, 2008, 04:20:06 PM
wish the paging streams had different text/background colours...my eyes are struggling these days to read the retro look.

Set up your own paging software....get the right version of PDW & upload it to your own site...then you can have what ever you like!!    :-D

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 21, 2008, 04:23:10 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC041 21/11/08 14:33,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,SOUTHERN EXP,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 D 14 TG182,NEAR HONEYPOT RD OVER PASS,CDN439 SEAF00 MRPH00 STM401

Second Alarm vehicle fire??

Im guessing Christies 431 is booked K0 (broken?)

strange that 421 was missing from the 2nd response...

I saw that one, car & caravan got the wobbles up and jacknifed, facing the opposite direction.No fire involved.401 was COQ at O'Halloran Hill and Christies Downs 439 put a stop on everyone else.

Morphett Vale made it to the end of the Sthn Expressway.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: mattb on November 21, 2008, 07:59:31 PM
Quote
MFS: *CFSRES INC041 21/11/08 14:33,RESPOND Vehicle Fire,SOUTHERN EXP,HACKHAM WEST MAP 186 D 14 TG182,NEAR HONEYPOT RD OVER PASS,CDN439 SEAF00 MRPH00 STM401

439 and Seaford were responded because that road is partly MFS and partly CFS area, Morphett Vale would have been responded because 43 only had one truck in station and therefore they would have been going as 43's second truck (C Class risk now those pesky car fires) and then I can only assume 401 (which was at 42) went because you cannot use CFS as your second truck without responding another MFS pump as well.

Also there is a response plan in place for Stage 2 of the Southern Expressway (Becah road South to Main South road) that says that all CFS appliances respond to the Southern end and MFS appliances to the Beach road end, that way whichever direction the traffic is flowing they will still be able to get onto the Expressway. It was actually for this one and only reason that Seaford were issued with the rapid intervention gear, the theory being that if the Christies trucks were unable to go against the traffic or the Expressway was blocked with cars that Seaford would still be able to make a start from the southern end.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: boredmatrix on November 21, 2008, 09:10:34 PM
Well then, no need to enforce your crankyness onto others unfairly.

This site wouldn't be a firefighting site without being able to take shots at people when they screw up.

Unfairly?  Personal attacks arent supported on this site and i viewed the post in question as a personal attack....have a problem? take it up with firefrog.

So going by this statement you wont be making any further remarks about Gambier group or your ex-brigade captain?

Back to the topic:

Interesting Fire & Emergency Related Paging . . .


bucket and spade taken out of the sandpit!!

...and just when we were getting started...you're like the teacher who wouldn't let us organise karate and kickboxing tournaments in the lunch-shed!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 21, 2008, 09:24:26 PM
Those tournaments were the best hey boredy :lol:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Bagyassfirey on November 22, 2008, 07:34:28 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC073 22/11/08 17:23,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,TASSIE ST,PORT AUGUSTA MAP 0 0 0 TG192,NEAR THOMPSON ST,& SHOREFRONT,SAIR55 PAU519 MFS Pt Augusta Response

Message Only. If your name is on the available responders roster, it would be appreciated if you actually attend fire calls. S/O McNamee MFS Pt Augusta Response


Things not so rosy up in the Port???
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on November 23, 2008, 09:54:44 AM
They have not been good up at Port for sometime....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: 49194 on November 23, 2008, 02:59:52 PM
You know the guys are P/A do you Bill?

After personally speaking to the S.O the other week, I think you statement is a little blase..

Sure, like all Retained/Vol stations, everyone can have some difficulty during the day for crew. But to say things 'have not been good' is slightly over the top.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: rescue5271 on November 23, 2008, 03:31:57 PM
I guess you only go by what one member of the station say to you at the time,we all find it hard to get a full crew does not matter if you are paid or vol....
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Heavy Rescue on November 23, 2008, 06:02:22 PM
I dont think it is any shock to anyone that Pt Augusta have been struggling lately, you see quite a number of messages requesting more crew from them or mr McNamee letting everyone know that one or two crew are not enough.

It's interesting listening to the retained guys, there are not too many occassions that they get out the door in under 5 mins, most of the time is 7 or 8, and then there are some stations that struggle to crew at all.

Just goes to show that paying people isn't the answer to crewing issues.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Firey9119 on November 25, 2008, 08:37:06 PM
1909800 17:43:45 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC061 25/11/08 17:43,RESPOND Tree Fire,PARABANKS SHOPPING COMPLEX,JOHN ST,SALISBURY MAP 71 F 2 TG182,,SAIR55 SAL329 CFS State Air Desk

1909190 17:45:46 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 25/11/08 17:45,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,NURLUTTA RAILWAY STATION,COMMERCIAL RD,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 61 D 12 TG182,,SLSB19 CFS Salisbury Response

1929264 17:48:41 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 25/11/08 17:48,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KETTERING RD,ELIZABETH SOUTH MAP 61 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 ELZ331 MFS Elizabeth 331 Response

1909800 17:48:35 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC062 25/11/08 17:48,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,KETTERING RD,ELIZABETH SOUTH MAP 61 F 12 TG182,,SAIR55 ELZ331 CFS State Air Desk

between this time salisbury was responded via radio to another fire pittman park salisbury



1909800 20:07:05 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC074 25/11/08 20:06,RESPOND RUBBISH FIRE,SALISBURY HWY,SALISBURY MAP 71 B 6 TG182,IN TUNNELS UNDER HWY FROM PITMAN PARK,SAIR55 SAL321 CFS State Air Desk

1909187 20:23:07 25-11-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC075 25/11/08 20:22,RESPOND GRASS FIRE,SALISBURY HIGH SCHOOL,FARLEY GR,SALISBURY NORTH MAP 61 D 15 TG182,BETWEEN HIGH SCHOOL AND TRAIN LINE,SAIR55 SLSB19 CFS Para Group Officers Response


if i did not know better ( and know this area) i would say there is a little sob running around salisbury lighting fires!!!!! :x :x :x :x

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on November 26, 2008, 07:29:22 AM
Isn't that the norm up there anyhow?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on November 26, 2008, 05:39:25 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC048 26/11/08 14:34,RESPOND ALARM 13/137,SAMFS,HEADQUARTERS,93 WAKEFIELD ST,ADELAIDE MAP 4 D 10 TG182,#FIP EASTERN ENTRY,,ADL205 ADL201 ADL203

I guess the building was evacuated and they only had to put the lights on the trucks responding without going anywhere!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 26, 2008, 05:52:21 PM
they might have set it off to test the paging lol
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on November 26, 2008, 05:56:48 PM
The response time must of been pretty quick, unless some were on the jon!
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on November 28, 2008, 10:10:26 PM
09:02:20   28-11-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC018 28/11/08 09:01,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BELAIR RD,BELAIR MAP 142 K 12 TG146,CLEAN UP ONLY 500 M DOWN FROM BP,BKWD19 BELR00 CFS Sturt Group Officers Response

20:17:13   28-11-08   Inc 18 fire scrubby gulley cherry gardens 200 metres north .cherry fire station. respond Cherry gardens Coromandel Valley Blackwood Belair CFS Sturt Group Officers Info

20:51:18   28-11-08   Inc 18 .Respond single vehicle car vs tree 1 entrapment corner Cherry gardens road and Main road Blackwood rescue CFS Sturt Group Officers Info

Can anyone shed any light on what this was all about, there were 44 other different responses between the first and last one, check out the times!

Cheers David
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on November 28, 2008, 10:37:32 PM
It would appear there was either some training happening, or someone playing games...!

Pip

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on November 29, 2008, 02:52:35 AM
09:02:20   28-11-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC018 28/11/08 09:01,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BELAIR RD,BELAIR MAP 142 K 12 TG146,CLEAN UP ONLY 500 M DOWN FROM BP,BKWD19 BELR00 CFS Sturt Group Officers Response

20:17:13   28-11-08   Inc 18 fire scrubby gulley cherry gardens 200 metres north .cherry fire station. respond Cherry gardens Coromandel Valley Blackwood Belair CFS Sturt Group Officers Info

20:51:18   28-11-08   Inc 18 .Respond single vehicle car vs tree 1 entrapment corner Cherry gardens road and Main road Blackwood rescue CFS Sturt Group Officers Info

Can anyone shed any light on what this was all about, there were 44 other different responses between the first and last one, check out the times!

Cheers David

that would be group op's training ;)
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on November 29, 2008, 05:44:27 PM
MFS: *CFSRES INC056 29/11/08 18:08,RESPOND Bomb Threat,123 WAYMOUTH ST,ADELAIDE MAP 3 H 7 TG182,ADEL. SHAKESPEARE INT. BACKPACKERS,40
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on November 29, 2008, 07:31:33 PM
09:02:20   28-11-08   MFS: *CFSRES INC018 28/11/08 09:01,RESPOND Vehicle Accident,BELAIR RD,BELAIR MAP 142 K 12 TG146,CLEAN UP ONLY 500 M DOWN FROM BP,BKWD19 BELR00 CFS Sturt Group Officers Response

20:17:13   28-11-08   Inc 18 fire scrubby gulley cherry gardens 200 metres north .cherry fire station. respond Cherry gardens Coromandel Valley Blackwood Belair CFS Sturt Group Officers Info

20:51:18   28-11-08   Inc 18 .Respond single vehicle car vs tree 1 entrapment corner Cherry gardens road and Main road Blackwood rescue CFS Sturt Group Officers Info

Can anyone shed any light on what this was all about, there were 44 other different responses between the first and last one, check out the times!

Cheers David

that would be group op's training ;)

Not quite the first one was an actual job involving a collision between two vehicles and a 100 metre oil spill as a result.Old Belair Rd was closed for almost 2 hours
Belair 34P on scene and Sturt Deputy blocking the road at the top.

The other paging was a exercise as Sturt Group train on friday nights :wink:
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: David on November 30, 2008, 06:09:25 AM

that would be group op's training ;)
[/quote]

Not quite the first one was an actual job involving a collision between two vehicles and a 100 metre oil spill as a result.Old Belair Rd was closed for almost 2 hours
Belair 34P on scene and Sturt Deputy blocking the road at the top.

The other paging was a exercise as Sturt Group train on friday nights :wink:
[/quote]

Knew there was a reasonable answer, Thanks

Cheers David
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on November 30, 2008, 10:01:16 AM
MFS: *CFSRES INC019 30/11/08 10:17,RESPOND Assist Resident,14 LUKIN CR,GOLDEN GROVE MAP 72 K 12 TG182,CALL FROM THESE PREMISES DROPPED OUT TH,ERE IS ASPECIAL MESSAGE ON THIS ADDRESS,31

Does any one know any thing about this?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on November 30, 2008, 11:08:39 AM
I am assuming MFS Comms have similar Hazard warning systems that SAAS & SAPol use, in relation to things like nuisance callers, regular MFA's, aggressive occupants etc etc at a particular address, so all crews attending are aware.

I believe this address relates to behaviour of the occupant.

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on November 30, 2008, 01:15:25 PM
What i mean is i wonder what the incident is.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan J on November 30, 2008, 09:35:06 PM
The other paging was a exercise as Sturt Group train on friday nights :wink:

Part of it does, anyway.  The more enlightened part prefer to keep their
Friday nights for having a life.   :-D

Must say I grabbed for the pager when I saw the print above.  :-o
Thanks for the explanation.

Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Pipster on November 30, 2008, 10:35:03 PM
What i mean is i wonder what the incident is.

Behaviour of the occupant of the house, in relation to calling the Fire Service repeatedly for things that he shouldn't.

Pip
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: SA Firey on December 01, 2008, 07:30:15 AM
FROM LINC BASE: SPEED CAMERAS IN PL THIS WEEK INCLUDING ST ANDREWS TCE 01/12/08 08:43:46 CFS Lincoln Response
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Hazmat206 on December 01, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
What i mean is i wonder what the incident is.

Behaviour of the occupant of the house, in relation to calling the Fire Service repeatedly for things that he shouldn't.

Pip

Thanks
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Alan (Big Al) on December 02, 2008, 10:45:52 AM
1909090 12:08:31 02-12-08 NEW APPLIANCE ARRIVES FOR XMAS. TUES DEC 9TH. AS MANY MEMBERS AS POSSIBLE TO BE HERE AT YANKALILLA BASE 1700HRS FOR FAMILIARIZATION PRESENTATION. J.EDGE From Sthn Fleurieu GCC 02/12/08 12:10:15

So is this the 2 year old 34P they are finally getting?


Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 02, 2008, 11:08:14 AM
That has to be a CFS World Record.

if its already that old, it may aswell go out to North Shields, instead of a *better* Varley 34P.
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Dave O on December 04, 2008, 08:26:59 PM
14:28:24 04-12-08 MFS: *CFSRES INC027 04/12/08 14:27,RESPOND RESCUE GENERAL,TI TREE RD PROSPECT HILL ,PROSPECT HILL MAP 0 0 0,ASSIST STAR FORCE WITH WINCHING PATIENT,AFTER MVA - P1,STR029 SES Strathalbyn

For curiousity sake... Does anyone know the circumstances that led to this?  :?
Title: Re: Interesting Fire and Emergency Related Paging
Post by: Zippy on December 04, 2008, 08:35:28 PM
Star force deal with technical rescue,  and probably do it better....  When ever it involves rescue 51 most of