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General Discussion => SAMFS => Topic started by: Optimistic on January 19, 2018, 02:05:53 PM

Title: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on January 19, 2018, 02:05:53 PM
Hi Everyone,

So i know there is a thread already that has started to talk about recruitment for 2018 but I thought I might start an official 2018 one. I'll get the discussion started with a few questions and if you have any info please share it. Supporting evidence would be great as well, but not necessary as there is usually some truth in a rumour.

•Has anybody heard any news of a 2018 recruitment drive?

•When can we expect applications to open up/what time of year has recruitment usually started?

•How many people/squads did the 2017 recruitment drive produce?

•Who has been through the process and what was your experience?

And a personal question from me is:
How long between each assessment did you have to wait? (I.e. did you do your PAT1 and 2 together, separate, the day after your interview?)
I ask this because I grew up in South Australia and travelled around Aus a bit for work and now im looking to come home but i will be applying from interstate. I want to know how many times I need to travel so i can budget for it haha.

Anyway I hope this kicks of a good discussion and i wish everyone good luck with their application.


Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: phoenix on January 21, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Hey Optimistic, welcome first of all!

Admittedly I do not check this website much at all, but logging on and seeing your post - I thought I would do my best to answer your questions. Most of these can be answered through their (SAMFS) website, and searching through the forum.

•Has anybody heard any news of a 2018 recruitment drive?
There is only scattered information about a recruitment campaign for this year. If you went to the SAMFS Open Day in November, they had a stall about recruitment. They only said 'opening soon'.

•When can we expect applications to open up/what time of year has recruitment usually started?
There isn't any real set formula... Recruitment depends on many factors. The past two drives have opened in the second half of the year.

•How many people/squads did the 2017 recruitment drive produce?
Firstly, there was no recruitment held in 2017, all squads that went through were from the campaign that opened in September 2016.
Each squad is 18 people, the fourth squad from the Sept '16 campaign is commencing 22/1/18 (according to the other forum board). Speculation going around that a fifth squad will be selected to proceed.


•Who has been through the process and what was your experience?
Stacks of people here have been through, each getting to different stages. As it says on the website, it's quite competitive.

And a personal question from me is:
How long between each assessment did you have to wait? (I.e. did you do your PAT1 and 2 together, separate, the day after your interview?)

This is a factor that can't really be calculated, sorry. Jump on the website and you can read the process in greater detail. The PAT1 and 2 are not run on the same day. In short the process is: online app> psych/aptitude test > pat1 > interview > pat2 >criminal history check > medical. So you may have to budget for up to 5 trips, should you make it through.  :-)

Advice is to get to know the process well, what is expected, and prepare.

Cheers.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on January 31, 2018, 04:42:24 AM
I am in current recruit squad. Big rumour that the Mfs will be taking a 6th squad from this application process
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on January 31, 2018, 10:19:25 AM
Is the rumour a 6th squad from the 2016 intake, or 6 squads from the 2018 intake?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Jack23 on January 31, 2018, 02:38:00 PM
I am in current recruit squad. Big rumour that the Mfs will be taking a 6th squad from this application process
So you got in even after 💩 canning HR & the whole process? Guess you’ve  stopped whinging now? fark me 🤔
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on January 31, 2018, 07:11:32 PM
I am in current recruit squad. Big rumour that the Mfs will be taking a 6th squad from this application process
So you got in even after 💩 canning HR & the whole process? Guess you’ve  stopped whinging now? fark me 🤔

Nah I still think the process is very poorly run as do many others on this forum.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on January 31, 2018, 07:12:10 PM
Is the rumour a 6th squad from the 2016 intake, or 6 squads from the 2018 intake?

6 from 2016
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on February 01, 2018, 09:49:07 PM
Thanks Phoenix for taking the time to reply. Yea i had speculated a lot of what you said but i wanted to know for sure. Good to know how much i could possibly be up for in airline tickets.... Congrats Beater and to everyone else who made it through. What is the dynamic of your squad? what backgrounds and previous experience does everyone have?... i think its pretty crazy thou that the MFS will have taken 6 squads from a recruitment drive in 2016.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gfoss on February 08, 2018, 10:10:27 AM
What happened to personality tests being valid for 12 months only?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on February 08, 2018, 02:54:20 PM
Yea Gfoss thats what i was thinking. Makes you wonder if its a cost thing or if the requirements/standards and procedures for recruitment are changing next time around. they might want to take as many people as possible from that drive.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Cobra1 on February 09, 2018, 04:41:55 PM
Is anybody going to hedge their bets and apply in vic? Opens next week.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on February 12, 2018, 09:26:16 AM
Absolutey, at worst its more experience in the recruitment process, at best I'll end up with a firefighting job!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on February 12, 2018, 04:44:07 PM
Never mind, they closed their application window under 6 hours later.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on February 12, 2018, 06:02:20 PM
Retains getting pretested again this year?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on February 20, 2018, 03:36:30 PM
Possibly shortly?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on March 02, 2018, 09:49:23 AM
Has anyone heard anything else on the grapevine?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: phoenix on March 05, 2018, 04:26:30 PM
Haven’t heard much on the grapevine. Some say March. Others say differently.

But retained being tested yes, as stated by FFGazz. Renmark did their PAT1 today according to the paging system.
So wheels in motion I guess. Not sure how long between retained folk being tested and the public recruitment being opened.

Keep your heads down friends. Prepare and go your hardest! :)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on June 05, 2018, 11:06:32 AM
Hey guys,

I have heard some rumors that the SAMFS will open a recruitment drive either June or July. Has anyone heard anything similar to this?

Just seeking out some information from people that have progressed through the Personality Profile. From my understanding, this process is definitely the most efficient way to cull the amount of applicants that progress. Has anyone on here not progressed past the personality profile in one drive, but then applied again with success?

Thanks guys.
Good luck to all trying.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on June 05, 2018, 04:09:56 PM
I had heard lots about early 2018, that turned into march, that turned into soon, but I got an email the other day saying that the 2016 drive had finally concluded, and feedback from the interviews would be in June, so all signs point to july intake.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on June 05, 2018, 11:38:30 PM
Yeah I was hearing the same info.. Did you make it to the interview stage?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on June 06, 2018, 01:00:25 PM
Yeah I did last intake
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on June 27, 2018, 10:09:55 AM
Tempcitz, have you received your interview feedback yet? I registered in late May but have not heard anything further....
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on June 27, 2018, 10:31:38 AM
No I haven't, they did say it would happen in June, so it might be a busy couple of days for them!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on June 29, 2018, 01:01:27 PM
I noticed the website now says “The MFS will be recruiting fireifghters soon”
Good news!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on June 29, 2018, 04:06:50 PM
Great news!!
Exciting times.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on July 05, 2018, 12:35:33 PM
Everyone signed up for the info session?
I've heard Pat2 may be changing this time around, so will be interesting to see what they say.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on July 05, 2018, 08:50:53 PM
Pat2 won’t be changing
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 05, 2018, 09:38:37 PM
Yep, I’ve signed up for the info session. I too have heard that the PAT2 will have a slight alteration. Hoping to progress through the personality profile this time. Best of luck to everyone!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on July 05, 2018, 09:45:44 PM
They were reviewing the pat2. No confirmed changes at this stage.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on July 06, 2018, 12:32:06 PM
Unfortunately I can't make it to the info sessions. Would anyone mind giving me a summary after they've been? Im really interested in the aptitude testing and how many recruits they are looking to take on.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 06, 2018, 12:57:43 PM
Hey Optimistic, I'm happy to give some insight after the session. :)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on July 06, 2018, 02:41:06 PM
I’ve heard 3 or 4 courses a year for next few years. Lots of upcoming retirements.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on July 10, 2018, 02:49:55 PM
Hey Optimistic, I'm happy to give some insight after the session. :)

Thanks mate i really appreciate that.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on July 12, 2018, 10:52:33 AM
Heard at work today to check Saturday’s paper for recruitment ad
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on July 12, 2018, 04:20:19 PM
Just got back from the 1:00 info session, nothing unexpected in there or anything new for people who have gone through the process before, but they did say applications will be opening 9am Monday morning.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on July 12, 2018, 05:42:37 PM
Did they say how long the applications are open for?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on July 12, 2018, 08:33:53 PM
Awesome news
Was there any mention of the written aptitude testing and psych testing? I heard they were going with a different company than they have in the past
Cheers
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on July 12, 2018, 08:41:37 PM
They did say when they close but i can't remember off the top of my head I'm sorry, I think it was open for about 10 days. I did write it down but don't have my notes with me atm.
Everything they said sounded like it was the exact same process as last time re aptitude and psych test, i specifically remember them saying they can access previous results if you have sat it before so i assume its being done through the same company.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 12, 2018, 09:13:37 PM
Yep, same company for the personality profile.
Some key points:
- Recruitment opens Monday 16th for 10 days
- Personality profile results will be valid for 2 years. They will be doing another recruitment drive next year, however if you apply this intake you will not need to reapply. Basically if you don’t pass the personality test, you won’t progress or have another chance to reapply for 2 years.
- 300 new Firefighters over the next 5 years. 3 recruit courses each year..
- No 50/50 quota (some interstate services have introduced this)

Pretty much everything that was spoken about is on their website.
Recruitment process, fitness testing etc is the exact same as previous years.

Anyone have any tips for preparing for the personality profile?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on July 13, 2018, 11:09:42 AM
I got though the personality profiling last intake, my advice is be honest, answer the first thing that pops into your head, and make sure you pick a side about most questions, don't choose the 50/50 option for every statement.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 13, 2018, 01:22:20 PM
From what I understand, the personality profile can be quite subjective..
I assume having a few ‘neutral‘ answers wouldn’t be bad?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on July 13, 2018, 04:22:52 PM
From what I understand, the personality profile can be quite subjective..
I assume having a few ‘neutral‘ answers wouldn’t be bad?

Word of advice. Don’t overthink the personality profiling. Don’t try to predict what they are looking for. It’s not subjective, it’s just a tool to identify personality traits that are conducive to the role of a firefighter. It’s not the perfect system, but it is the most effective and efficient way of ranking thousands of applicants.

If you’ve done the profiling before, be consistent with your answers. Your responses are cross referenced with previous tests. Some of your responses will  change over time as your collect life experience,, but if you said you have never been caught drunk driving and in a previous test you said you did, that’s an obvious red flag that you’re manipulating the result.

They’ve been predicting a mass exodus of employees for 5 years but it’s always in dribs and drabs. There are only so many operational positions they can fill and they will only recruit as numbers demand.  Don’t plan your life around 300 firies retiring tomorrow.

It’s the best job in the world so I’d encourage everyone to have a crack. Just be realistic with the number of positions vs the number of applicants vs competitive field... and don’t be a filtered like beater if you don’t get in the first few squads.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 13, 2018, 05:46:54 PM
Thanks for the response Left Foot, much appreciated mate.
Really looking forward to giving this process a go. Best of luck to all that try!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Hoge10 on July 13, 2018, 11:44:44 PM
Do you guys think not having a HR or MR truck license on your application would have a big affect on your chances?
I know it says it’s not compulsory but I wonder if they still look out for it?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on July 14, 2018, 07:55:07 AM
Name calling by a member of Mfs recruitment team. Very professional left foot .....
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on July 14, 2018, 10:10:28 AM
You couldn’t be further from the truth Beater. The cold air in Gawler seems to have clouded your vision. You just make sure you rug up for today’s day shift and try and get through your SDF. You haven’t passed your probation yet.

Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: beater on July 15, 2018, 01:44:29 PM
Not a B shifter lefty and never worked at Gawler. Ive had my fun. Im out before i get whoever you think i am a bad name.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on July 16, 2018, 08:45:16 AM
@Hodge, I feel you wouldn't be penalised for not having your truck licence, but having would be seen as a positive.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 16, 2018, 09:58:29 AM
For those that have already put their applications in, did you receive a confirmation email?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on July 16, 2018, 02:05:17 PM
Nah I didn't recieve one
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: JamesP on July 16, 2018, 04:48:25 PM
Hi guys, just asking for a few people. Has anyone that has applied so far paid the $100 admin/ application fee or even been asked. My brother has applied and wasn’t asked and wasn’t sure if he had applied correctly. On the last intake in 2016 payment online was required at the time of application. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 16, 2018, 06:05:37 PM
Hey James, I wasn't asked to pay the fee either. At the seminar I remember them saying we would receive an email at a later date regarding the payment :)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: JamesP on July 16, 2018, 06:16:20 PM
Thanks Luke. Appreciate it
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Bootcamp on July 16, 2018, 09:06:43 PM
Hey guys, I know this sounds like a silly question but where do I find the online application? I have scanned the MFS website and can not see any links - am I missing something?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Bootcamp on July 16, 2018, 09:14:43 PM
Ok guys, found it!!!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Bootcamp on July 18, 2018, 03:10:47 PM
Hey guys,

Summited my application on monday night. Did you guys receive any sort of notification that they have recieved your application?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on July 19, 2018, 08:28:33 AM
Hey Bootcamp. I registered on Monday as well and didn't receive any form of notification. I guess its now a waiting game  :-)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 23, 2018, 09:46:13 AM
Has anyone received any communication yet?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Bootcamp on July 23, 2018, 10:33:43 AM
Not yet Luke...starting to second guessing myself whether I have put the correct email address in...seems like we are not getting a confirmation.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on July 23, 2018, 10:41:52 AM
I wouldn't panic, had the same thing last recruitment campaign. I didn't hear anything for over a week after submitting my application.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: frobo on July 23, 2018, 10:44:56 AM
Yep, I just logged in to say the same, no need to panic. I'm pretty sure last time I never heard anything until the Monday after applications closed when the emails requesting payment went out.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: phoenix on July 23, 2018, 08:50:01 PM
Echoing Frobo - just logging in to reiterate what’s been said today.

This recruitment seems far more organised. And the screen after your application showed a green box saying it was successful - that’s your first confirmation, that it’s locked in with that email address.

As Frobo said - they’ll start sending out emails after all the applications have been collected and sorted 

Just take it one step at a time. :)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on July 23, 2018, 10:36:45 PM
Thanks for all the responses legends!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on July 24, 2018, 04:16:28 PM
I just got an email confirming my application and requesting payment, so keep an eye on those inboxes as it looks like they are starting to send things out.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on July 24, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Also just received the payment email, would’ve been handy to know a test time and date before having to pay, but I guess just have to roll the dice and hope to get out of work.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Bootcamp on July 24, 2018, 06:14:33 PM
Also recieved the payment request.

Does anyone know roughly how long the process takes?

Also in relation to the beep test - do you actually stop at 9.6 or do they let you continue to run to see what you maximum is? I know in some other states that is the case. 
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: phoenix on July 24, 2018, 06:50:53 PM
@sj000 - you can try and swap; from memory previous applicants have been able to do that. If not then yeah, you’ll have to get off work  :wink:

@bootcamp - it stops at 9.6.
Details on the process are on the website. Memorise what you can!
But the process takes 4-6 months.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on July 24, 2018, 07:33:16 PM
At the seminar they said the first squad will start about January, so you're looking at 6 months if you're in the most successful group each time, but if you're not the profiling and interview have a 2 year resit lockout, and 1 year for the beeptest.
They also said there would be some flexibility with the aptitude/personality dates.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on July 25, 2018, 09:18:24 AM
SAMFS Recruitment Invitation to Pay also received and paid!

From memory at the seminar they indicated that testing would start approx Monday 13th August and run for 4-6 weeks.
This is all dependent on how many applications they have to go through I would imagine.

But at least now the ball is rolling, its all a little exciting really!

Good luck to everyone who is applying.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on August 01, 2018, 08:02:36 AM
Anyone heard when we might receive an invitation to attend the personality and abilities testing?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on August 01, 2018, 09:14:31 AM
@sj000 I’ve had nothing come through yet. I imagine they will send all the invitations out at roughly the same time. If this recruitment campaign is anything like the previous ones, be prepared to do some waiting, they typically haven’t been particularly quick in moving through the process and getting information out to people.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on August 03, 2018, 05:03:13 PM
Have people received emails?
My friend got his with the test date, but I still haven’t received anything..
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on August 03, 2018, 05:38:49 PM
I had one come through just now so it looks like they are starting to send them through. Keep an eye on your inbox I'm sure it'll won't be far off.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on August 05, 2018, 03:54:10 PM
Anyone else still waiting on a time and date?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on August 05, 2018, 04:43:25 PM
Yeah, I'm still waiting on an email with date and time for testing. Hopefully its not far off.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on August 05, 2018, 09:37:56 PM
Well that makes me feel a little better then!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pitboss on August 06, 2018, 10:57:31 AM
Good morning all, has anyone received anything today?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on August 06, 2018, 11:02:41 AM
Still nothing for me
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on August 06, 2018, 11:17:36 AM
I received mine on Friday and it's exactly 2 weeks notice for my assessment, maybe that's what they're aiming for.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Bootcamp on August 06, 2018, 01:25:11 PM
Hey Guys,

Recieved an invitation last week to attend the personality profiling and abilities assessment test. What are you guys using for preparation? I have been using the the Institute of Psychometric Coaching. Its good, but thinking a variety of different test styles might help..
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on August 06, 2018, 02:24:20 PM
I received mine about an hour ago. Same for me, exactly 2 weeks for the test date.
Bootcamp:
I have been using Fire Recruitment Australia as well as a few other online test's that I can find.
A friend of mine in the SAMFS has lent me some books that he used a few years back as well. They may be outdated, but still good practice.
I'm thinking the same, a few different test styles may help.

Good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pitboss on August 07, 2018, 08:33:44 AM
Is anyone still waiting on their test date/time? I've triple checked my details and everything is correct, however I'm still waiting for my invitation. I'm considering calling and asking, any thoughts?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on August 07, 2018, 09:19:44 AM
Everyone seems to be getting their invite exactly 2 weeks before the assessment. I know in previous years the tests have been run over 1-2 weeks, so assuming they are maintain 2 weeks notice prior to the assessment I wouldn't panic, so long as you received the email for payment and you paid it within the 5 days you can be sure they have your correct details and an email wont be too far off.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on August 07, 2018, 10:13:05 AM
I also received the email yesterday and it was exactly two weeks away as well, so wouldn’t stress just yet
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pitboss on August 07, 2018, 10:46:11 AM
Thanks guys, all the best with your testing!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on August 08, 2018, 09:05:22 AM
Not sure if this will help anyone, but I was passing this info on to another applicant so thought Id share it here just in case it does help someone out.
These are the rough dates for the Recruit process that they gave at the seminar:

These are the dates I have written down from the seminar:
- Monday 13th August Testing 4-6 weeks
- 17th September PAT 1 Testing
- Monday 8th October Interviews
- Monday 29th October PAT 2 Testing
- Monday 29th October Medical
- Friday 2nd November Employment Checks
- 21st January First Recruit Course Starts

These are all approx dates they gave. May change depending on varied factors. But that’s what they will be working towards.

Hope this may help some people with time frame etc.
as before, good luck to everyone on the recruit process.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TLC92 on August 08, 2018, 06:54:19 PM
Hi Guys; first post for me; I also have my date for the written test. I have heard on the grapevine that I should wear long sleeve shirts at every stage of the process due to me having a sleeve tattoo. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 08, 2018, 08:12:24 PM
Hi Guys; first post for me; I also have my date for the written test. I have heard on the grapevine that I should wear long sleeve shirts at every stage of the process due to me having a sleeve tattoo. Has anyone else heard anything like this?

Bad move. They will observe this and ask you for photos of tattoos. A sleeve is fine as long as it isnt offensive. Read the personal presentation part on website
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TLC92 on August 08, 2018, 08:36:03 PM
Thanks canine, I’m just concerned that if it comes down to chosing me or someone without tattoos they will go with them. Although I have seen a few firies with tats.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on August 09, 2018, 07:47:18 AM
Hey TLC92,
There is no point hiding them at the numeracy and personality abilities testing phase as I don't think they are looking that hard at each person as they will be seeing approx 200 people per day.
In my opinion it is probably best to be upfront and honest right from the get go.
If you have visible tattoos they will ask for photo's of them anyway at some stage of the process.
As Canine said, it all depends if they are seen to be offensive or not.
Good luck.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Diddy on August 09, 2018, 04:45:16 PM
Double barrelled question here:
1) Anyone know the process to swap with someone the test dates?
2) Anyone got a date for the end of the month that would prefer to go Friday 24th?

I’ll be somewhere along the Savannah Way in a caravan,and won’t get to Darwin until a bit later in the month
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TLC92 on August 09, 2018, 09:05:17 PM
Yeah good call ssickers; surely they would have to abide by anti discrimination legislation as well
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Mdw on August 10, 2018, 09:24:55 AM
Does anyone know what is considered a pass mark or whether there is a minimum score you have to get for the first lot of tests?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on August 10, 2018, 09:48:47 AM
It would be based on percentile, so how you score compared to the rest of the candidates. If it was a pass mark then they wouldn't be thinning out the herd enough... Question for the people who have previously applied, was there a spelling test done using an audio recording?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on August 10, 2018, 10:43:48 AM
@Optimistic No spelling test done via audio. Its been a while but a vaguely remember there may have been some spelling based questions such as x word is spelled incorrectly write out the correct spelling.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on August 10, 2018, 11:20:03 AM
Gpats, that's good to know. I went through a similar recruitment before and nearly failed on the audio spelling. I hope your right or im stuffed haha.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on August 10, 2018, 04:01:50 PM
Hey guys first time caller long time listener.
Can u complete ur cognitive test online for samfs like other services if ur an interstate application?
I just received my email
But absolutely no chance getting there
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on August 10, 2018, 04:46:44 PM
@2beus unfortunately no. You must attend the Angle Park training centre for the testing. I'm pretty sure it says that on the website and it was definitely mentioned during the information sessions. A few people have mentioned being able to  swap their assessment times so it might be worth putting out an email to them to see what your options are.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 10, 2018, 04:52:18 PM
It would be based on percentile, so how you score compared to the rest of the candidates. If it was a pass mark then they wouldn't be thinning out the herd enough... Question for the people who have previously applied, was there a spelling test done using an audio recording?

I believe it is a pass mark and the "thinning" is done by way of the personality profiling. The aptitude side is year 10 level in my opinion.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on August 10, 2018, 06:57:44 PM
Cheers for that gpats.. does anyone know what type of testing there gonna throw at us? Have done a few before and all seem different ie some with or without mechanical and spatical elements to it.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on August 13, 2018, 07:23:34 AM
Its pretty basic maths, spelling, reading comprehension, and then a whole lot of personality profiling
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on August 13, 2018, 10:28:43 AM
Anyone sitting their Abilities and Personality today? Good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on August 14, 2018, 03:55:55 PM
Did you sit yours yesterday FireLuke?
How has everyone felt after their testing?

I sit mine on Monday morning session.
Good luck to everyone still waiting to sit theirs!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on August 14, 2018, 05:13:22 PM
Got mine this friday , Failed the personality test last intake. Been studying as much info as possible to pass this test. goodluck to everyone :)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on August 14, 2018, 05:44:20 PM
Yea I have mine this Friday as well, good luck. Did they let you know what you had troubles on? Im wondering how much of the actual test is based on maths and english compared to personality/psych, what was it like last time?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 14, 2018, 05:47:11 PM
Yea I have mine this Friday as well, good luck. Did they let you know what you had troubles on? Im wondering how much of the actual test is based on maths and english compared to personality/psych, what was it like last time?

80% personality. No results given from psych testing. I think I remember signing something saying results remain property of MFS or the psych provider.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on August 14, 2018, 05:51:50 PM
They never seem to give feedback on testing and i dont think they ever will unfortunately. Can be quite frustrating all i remember was the maths , english and basic testing wasnt too hard but its how you respond to questions in the personality stuff that really seperates the applicants.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on August 14, 2018, 06:16:32 PM
Did you sit yours yesterday FireLuke?
How has everyone felt after their testing?

I sit mine on Monday morning session.
Good luck to everyone still waiting to sit theirs!

Nah mate, I have mine on Monday too.. Getting pretty psyched!
Good luck to everyone!!!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: KMatt on August 15, 2018, 10:54:37 AM
New here, is the abilities test and personality test similar to the SAPOL test?
Also any knowledge on female/male ratios, average age of applicants etc.
Cheers in advance!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on August 15, 2018, 11:03:47 AM
Sat the test yesterday. Have no idea how I went on the personality testing. The academic side isn't too hard. I sat the SAPOL test last month. Maths and English is similar but less time.
Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on August 15, 2018, 04:45:09 PM
What kinda questions they ask in the abilities test? I heard he same thing a mate sat his yesterday and was saying identical to sapol test and really basic questions
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 15, 2018, 07:12:19 PM
What kinda questions they ask in the abilities test? I heard he same thing a mate sat his yesterday and was saying identical to sapol test and really basic questions

I think most emergency services use a company called safe select for the profiling.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on August 18, 2018, 03:08:11 PM
Hi all,
How has everyone found the testing so far?
I had mine on Thursday, found it quite draining.

I also found it interesting how some people left after about 45 minutes of the psych testing... must have raced through it!

Any ideas as to when we'll find out if we're through to PAT 1?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on August 18, 2018, 05:01:56 PM
Had mine the Thursday morning session too and found that strange too as to how early they left. 

The session itself almost felt like being babied through it this time with the such heavily explained steps through the process.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on August 18, 2018, 05:21:41 PM
Agree FFGAZZ.

Although they must have had a lot of applicants that struggled to follow the instructions properly in the past - probably makes more work for them on the admin side when someone doesn't do everything properly.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on August 18, 2018, 07:34:43 PM
Yeah found it quite draining also , just don’t understand how they seperate thousands of applicants by the personality testing seems fairly straight forward unless you strongly agree that asians run the country or say you have experimented with drugs before. haha oh well now the nervous wait good luck to all
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 19, 2018, 01:51:58 PM
Yeah found it quite draining also , just don’t understand how they seperate thousands of applicants by the personality testing seems fairly straight forward unless you strongly agree that asians run the country or say you have experimented with drugs before. haha oh well now the nervous wait good luck to all

Having experimented with drugs won't cause you to not progress. There is questions in there that are alerts so  if you say no to too many of them it flags that you may be manipulating your answers because you appear to never have made a mistake or experimented.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on August 22, 2018, 05:12:43 PM
Hey guys,
Does anyone know when the last day of testing will be?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Bootcamp on August 22, 2018, 06:08:24 PM
Hey guys, got my testing this friday. It states that we need to allow 5 hours for the testing, but read that guys were walking out after 45mins..how many questions is there roughly in each section? 
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Renny on August 22, 2018, 07:42:41 PM
I think the last day of testing is this Friday however I’m only speculating based on the number of applicants...
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on August 22, 2018, 09:02:10 PM
27/28th last testing sitting.
Heard from a few ppl who sat the test that it was a lot easier then 2016 testing.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on August 22, 2018, 11:06:12 PM
Was exactly the same as 2016's testing.
I was the first one to leave, and i left about 10:30, after starting at 8. The last section they give you 2.5 hours for personality but you probably won't need it
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: KMatt on August 23, 2018, 08:26:58 PM
Sat the test yesterday about 80-90 males and 6 females, how many tests where held and were they Of similar size? Personality test same as SAPOL but the rest shorter and simpler. Now just the waiting game, mid Sept is meant to be when the next tests start, must be a big cull in the mean time!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on August 27, 2018, 12:43:02 PM
Anyone know roughly when they will start sending out Pat 1 invites / Unsuccessful emails?.
I remember 2016 there was a bit of a lengthy delay but if there planning to do the fitness testing in roughly 3 weeks I would think they would be sending these out pretty soon
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on August 27, 2018, 03:08:49 PM
I agree, last time was a little bit of a delay.
But they were predicting PAT 1 testing to start approx Sept 17th. So could be soon hopefully, but testing is still going this week as well I believe.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 27, 2018, 03:31:06 PM
In the past it has taken a few weeks. Do yourself a favour, don't try to guess when things will happen. You'll go crazy!!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on August 27, 2018, 03:54:01 PM
Like Canine said I wouldn't give too much credence to any of the potential dates they have given. They tend to do things in their own time so try not to stress yourself. 
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: kj on August 27, 2018, 04:54:47 PM
Last time they gave a weeks notice for PAT 1. So probably another couple of weeks.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on August 28, 2018, 08:37:35 AM
Yeah the waiting game is underway. We will hear something when we hear something.
Meanwhile, training for PAT 1 is still in full swing!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on August 30, 2018, 11:40:08 AM
How  does everyone think they went on the abilities testing??
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crisfit77 on August 31, 2018, 09:26:30 AM
Has anyone heard anything after the profiling assessment? I sat for the tests on the 16th of August 2018.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on August 31, 2018, 10:32:41 AM
I believe the last group of testing was done on monday so if that's the case then 1-2weeks to result and rank all applicants.
Does anyone know if they move everyone who passes the personality and abilities test on PAT 1 or do they use a ranking system and take say the top 500 scores?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: kj on August 31, 2018, 10:36:54 AM
I believe last time it was a top 200 but don’t quote me on that.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on August 31, 2018, 11:16:47 AM
Top 200...would there be 2000 applicants or more? Makes it very tough, goodluck to all that applied!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on August 31, 2018, 11:28:24 AM
Over 2200 applicants this time around according to the SAMFS website.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 31, 2018, 01:45:30 PM
They will take everyone who is deemed suitable through to the pat1, will be a lot more than 200. They will then select those who to interview based on the results of personality and abilities. Well this is what happened last time I think
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on August 31, 2018, 02:19:20 PM
From what I understand (what was said at the SAMFS seminar), the top 150 candidates out of the Personality Profiling will progress to the PAT1.
They will only take more people as numbers require.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crisfit77 on August 31, 2018, 05:16:58 PM
In the past it has taken a few weeks. Do yourself a favour, don't try to guess when things will happen. You'll go crazy!!

True!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crisfit77 on August 31, 2018, 05:18:03 PM
Thanks everyone for the input. Well let's wait then....
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Judd on September 06, 2018, 09:41:23 PM
Hey guys, heard any whispers?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on September 07, 2018, 08:58:32 AM
Not yet, still waiting patiently.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 07, 2018, 11:18:24 AM
Just recieved my invite to pat 1 testing! .... and then i woke up :-(
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 07, 2018, 11:59:42 AM
Haha yeah I just had the same dream..
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 07, 2018, 03:44:46 PM
Just got the PAT1 invite, good luck all!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crow on September 07, 2018, 04:09:53 PM
Congratulations.
What day are you booked in?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on September 07, 2018, 04:22:54 PM
I received my PAT1 invite just then. Mine is on Friday.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crow on September 07, 2018, 04:32:36 PM
So 1 week notice?
Gonna be hard to get the day off.
Have they finished the personality profiling yet?
Is anyone still waiting
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 07, 2018, 04:38:29 PM
How long ago did u do your testing?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 07, 2018, 04:38:45 PM
Friday for me as well
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on September 07, 2018, 04:54:26 PM
Received mine today as well. I'm Friday also, 11am. Excited and nervous!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 07, 2018, 06:16:44 PM
Is anyone able to clarify what was mentioned in earlier posts about who goes through to the interview stage. So if you pass the PAT1 l, Do they take X amount of people based on the written tests through to interview, or does everyone who passes PAT1 go through to an interview? Cheers
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 07, 2018, 07:08:41 PM
Wow well done guys , i have not recieved anything yet so might of missed out again . Ah well good luck to everyone getting through 👍🏼
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on September 07, 2018, 07:24:12 PM
They couldnt test us all on one day mate. You and me will get ours on Monday haha.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 07, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
has anyone got an email for the pat 1 who did there testing on the last day??
Ps congrats to everyone getting through..
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 07, 2018, 07:57:15 PM
They couldnt test us all on one day mate. You and me will get ours on Monday haha.

I like your thinking optimistic , we will go for a run when we get the the invites 👌🏼
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 07, 2018, 08:10:38 PM
Im hoping having a last name late in the alphabet is why i haven't got mine yet,  same as my delayed aptitude invite!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on September 07, 2018, 10:26:46 PM
Question for people that got invited to contest the PAT1, what date did you sit the aptitude and profiling tests?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 07, 2018, 10:34:32 PM
Sat mine on the 20th of August and surname is near the end of the alphabet
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 10, 2018, 07:23:26 AM
Well here's hoping there's more to come
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 10, 2018, 02:10:26 PM
anyone get an email today?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 10, 2018, 02:49:00 PM
They usually come through between 4-6pm I've found
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on September 10, 2018, 03:29:25 PM
Nope, not yet!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on September 10, 2018, 04:47:02 PM
I sat my test on the 20th also. My last name is towards the last 1/2 of the alphabet as well.
My email for PAT 1 came through at about 4:30 on Friday. Good luck to everyone waiting.
No news is good news!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on September 10, 2018, 08:05:47 PM
What's everyone's thoughts for those that haven't received anything yet.....
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Mr Bender on September 10, 2018, 08:19:18 PM
Thanks for coming, better luck next time!  :wink:
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 10, 2018, 08:21:11 PM
There either doing 2 things
Spacing out the pat 1s via sending emails each Friday of the week.
Until they reach there max say 150-200 then send out keep fit or unsuccessful emails.

Or they have sent them
All out and we will receive the other emails later this week, that’s just my thoughts but in saying that a friend got a pat1 email last Friday and is adamant he bombed the test so who knows.
What’s ur thoughts
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Mr Bender on September 10, 2018, 08:25:39 PM
Congratulations to those who have received emails for the beep test, those that got the emails - are you able to shed any light on how you answered alot of your questions on the personality profiling part of the testing?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on September 10, 2018, 08:42:06 PM
I would think that if they are only taking 200 through to PAT1 then surely if they run groups of 10 in each beep test session then they would be finished PAT1 within 1 week....
As far as I'm aware everyone who has received an email is doing the beep test this Friday...and not the week after?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 10, 2018, 08:58:54 PM
If you haven’t received a PAT 1 invite yet, you will not receive one until more numbers are required to fill squads. The first three squads of the last intake were made up of the first 240 been tested. All the invitations to contest each stage are sent out at the same time and are not sorted alphabetically or by date.

PAT1 testing will be knocked out in a day and a half if that. They test 32 people per timespot. 6 timeslots a day.

As long as you’ve not been told NO, your still in the mix.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 10, 2018, 09:08:17 PM
So if they sent out invites already. When would ppl start receiving no
Emails then? Or would they have already been sent
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on September 10, 2018, 09:18:40 PM
That's pretty good odds if you made it to PAT1...goodluck to all.
Has anyone heard if MFS are going to go down the lateral path?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 10, 2018, 10:09:03 PM
So if they sent out invites already. When would ppl start receiving no
Emails then? Or would they have already been sent

Not immediately I wouldn’t have thought. The focus would be on getting people through to the PAT2 stage ready for a squad to start next year.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 10, 2018, 10:33:49 PM
Yeah that’s true, but I guess atleast informing ppl straight away would be good instead of leaving them wondering.

Last time I received it very early about a week or 2 after testing
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 06:34:46 AM
Starting to believe if you screw up one personality test your screwed forever as they just compare your old ones and if there different its a red flag straight away which is so frustrating. This has been my 3rd personality test since leaving the Military as a firey and honestly thought i would have a decent chance of getting in but this profiling system designed by Hr psycologists is rubbish. Just wish there was something else im sure there alot of people in the same situation being Cfs or volunteers with plenty of experience who just cant get past it either. anyways end of rant sorry just had to get it off my chest, goodluck to everyone who gets through
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 11, 2018, 07:06:30 AM
I wouldn’t get too disheartened Phil.Collins99
I thought I did well in the 2016 testing, but received the email saying they believed I tried to manipulate the test and couldn’t apply again for a few years. I was pretty devastated with that too
But I’ve been susscessful this time round, so it is possible
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 07:31:09 AM
oh wow really? didnt know they send out those emails, do you mind me asking how different did you adjust your answers?. well done on getting through mate
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 11, 2018, 07:48:54 AM
Honestly I couldn’t remember how I answered all those years ago but was confused because I thought I did really well and answered honestly, I feel this time round I answered similarly, so can’t really pinpoint what’s changed
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 07:54:30 AM
ahk , cause i remember my first one i did quite a few neither agree or disagree then alot of people would say not to do those responses so now i either agreed or disagreed with everything and cant get it right.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on September 11, 2018, 09:40:29 AM
(Removed my rant, its not being constructive)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 11, 2018, 09:49:50 AM
It’s pretty clearly explained both at the seminars and before you sit the test not to try and overthink your responses or pick the answers you think the MFS are looking for. If you answer it honestly and your results have you sitting within the personality profile the MFS are looking for, you progress.

It is by no means the perfect test, but it is the most effective way of getting a snapshot of the personality types of 2500 applicants, to allow them to PAT 1 and interview a manageable number which doesn’t drain limited MFS resources for months on end.

Just because you spent time in the defence force, doesn’t guarantee you a fast track through the process. Hundreds of choccos apply each intake, and they are well represented in each squad. I get your frustrated but almost  every person who applies can make a claim on why they would be a good candidate based on their skill set and experiences.

Not getting through at this point, doesn’t meant your not suitable for the role, it just means that there were people who were more suitable at this stage in the recruitment process.

The MFS have been pretty clear that they want to diversify their workforce to reflect the community. However, they don’t want to compromise the standards required for entry like other emergency services have. It’s about getting more people with diverse backgrounds to apply, not giving them a free pass.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on September 11, 2018, 10:05:03 AM
Just received an email informing me I have not progressed at this stage. But strongly recommended to stay fit if called upon at a later date. Devo
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 10:06:55 AM
It’s pretty clearly explained both at the seminars and before you sit the test not to try and overthink your responses or pick the answers you think the MFS are looking for. If you answer it honestly and your results have you sitting within the personality profile the MFS are looking for, you progress.

It is by no means the perfect test, but it is the most effective way of getting a snapshot of the personality types of 2500 applicants, to allow them to PAT 1 and interview a manageable number which doesn’t drain limited MFS resources for months on end.

Just because you spent time in the defence force, doesn’t guarantee you a fast track through the process. Hundreds of choccos apply each intake, and they are well represented in each squad. I get your frustrated but almost  every person who applies can make a claim on why they would be a good candidate based on their skill set and experiences.

Not getting through at this point, doesn’t meant your not suitable for the role, it just means that there were people who were more suitable at this stage in the recruitment process.

The MFS have been pretty clear that they want to diversify their workforce to reflect the community. However, they don’t want to compromise the standards required for entry like other emergency services have. It’s about getting more people with diverse backgrounds to apply, not giving them a free pass.

Yeah Fair enough understand that , not requesting a free pass at all just more of a look at even if the initial expression of interest you do is more in depth cause im sure they could cut applicants at that stage after answering a few background questions rather than just take everyone with $100 to put forward for testing.Anyway dont want to start anything haha might give sapol a go and try again down the track in the future. thanks for the responses guys
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on September 11, 2018, 10:14:04 AM
Just received my 'keep fit letter' goodluck to all that are remaining. It's the best job and worth putting in the hard yards.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 11, 2018, 10:39:35 AM
Is there also an unsuccessful email this time? Or is everyone on the keep fit pool?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on September 11, 2018, 10:45:10 AM
I too got the "keep fit" letter, looks like they are just keeping everyone in the pool this time. Unless anyone has received anything different?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on September 11, 2018, 11:11:25 AM
People getting the "keep fit" notice, where does your surname sit alphabetically?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on September 11, 2018, 11:21:03 AM
My surname starts with 'V', however a mate that is 'E' also just received the same email.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Mr Bender on September 11, 2018, 11:21:23 AM
I got the "keep fit" email. Last name begins with "P"
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 11, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
I'm a W, I think these all got sent the same time as well, so if people didn't get them, there must be an unsuccessful email coming as well :/
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Cobra1 on September 11, 2018, 11:55:22 AM
Is there a straight 'you have been unsuccessful letter' which does not mention keep your fitness up?

I received one saying "You have not been invited to progress at this time. We strongly recommend you maintain a high level of fitness"

This is my first time applying so if anyone can help me interpret this it would be awesome!

Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: theg25 on September 11, 2018, 12:12:11 PM
Yeah it would be great to know if there are two types of unsuccessful emails going out, I too got the "keep fit" email, but is that just a nice way of saying good try but it is a 'no' or is there a 'definite 'no'' email too?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Mr Bender on September 11, 2018, 12:17:06 PM
In my past experiences - there has been the "better luck next time but keep fit" email and then the straight "you have not been successful" email. Who knows for this time though  :|
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on September 11, 2018, 12:23:47 PM
It sounds to me as though there's just the one letter this time around. It's not a definite no as its quite likely they will take several squads from this recruitment campaign and draw from this pool, but it looks like there are a lot of people in the same position and I certainly wouldn't expect to hear anything anytime soon.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 11, 2018, 12:25:04 PM
Very disappointed that I was in the first PAT1 pool last intake, and this time I'm in the keep fit pool
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on September 11, 2018, 12:32:39 PM
@tempcitz I know it would have been a while ago but do you feel as if you answered any of the questions in the profiling any differently this time around?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 11, 2018, 12:33:36 PM
Not particularly.  I also sat the safecom test fir NTfire last year, and went through that as well
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Sammy on September 11, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
Is there anyone who hasn't received an email as yet?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 11, 2018, 12:44:52 PM
Very disappointed that I was in the first PAT1 pool last intake, and this time I'm in the keep fit pool

Did U mess up interview last time?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 11, 2018, 12:48:15 PM
I didn't mess it up, but I definitely could have done better
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 11, 2018, 12:51:08 PM
I didn't mess it up, but I definitely could have done better

Did they give you feedback on your interview?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 11, 2018, 12:54:36 PM
No, they were scheduled for before this intake started, and then postponed, and haven't heard anything since
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 11, 2018, 01:07:44 PM
I’m yet to receive any email yet. I feel ur pain tempcity, I also did the nt fire test early on this year and found the same type of questions in both these tests the same. I also advanced through to nt interviews and I didn’t get official feedback but having a few mates in that service got a general idea where I went wrong.
Would be pretty guttered to not even get a keep fit letter
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 11, 2018, 01:11:48 PM
I made it through the interview for NT, smashed the physical amd still didn't get a  gig, was a bit brutal
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: countryfire10 on September 11, 2018, 01:37:27 PM
Did everyone receive this?

In the meantime, it is strongly recommended that you maintain a high level of fitness.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 11, 2018, 01:40:44 PM
Yeah they are, I hear the office side of the recruitment is poorly organised. Apparently there looking to recruit again this year but who knows.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 01:48:18 PM
I’m yet to receive any email yet. I feel ur pain tempcity, I also did the nt fire test early on this year and found the same type of questions in both these tests the same. I also advanced through to nt interviews and I didn’t get official feedback but having a few mates in that service got a general idea where I went wrong.
Would be pretty guttered to not even get a keep fit letter

See you would think that you would be suitable passing one personality test. just doesnt make sense how they must mark it.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on September 11, 2018, 01:52:47 PM
As far as I am aware NT have either a pass or fail and all who pass move to the next round whereas SA have a pass or fail but also rank and only take the top 150 who pass
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 01:54:49 PM
ah i see , would be cool if they actually gave you your rank so you know if your on the right path and just missed out or you were 2499 out of 2500 applicants haha
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zeke11 on September 11, 2018, 01:56:34 PM
Did everyone receive this?

In the meantime, it is strongly recommended that you maintain a high level of fitness.

Yes I recieved exactly the same mate

I wonder if LeftFootSnap could let us know about how they weight the testing Done Psyche v Numerical v Verbal. I felt like I did fairly well in all testing but I completely bombed the written report, barely even got started and the 5 minutes was up.
Good luck to all who made it through to PAT1, and keep your hopes up for all us who remain in the pool  :-D
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 11, 2018, 01:57:30 PM
As far as I am aware NT have either a pass or fail and all who pass move to the next round whereas SA have a pass or fail but also rank and only take the top 150 who pass

But they may take more later for future squads. They took 6 squads out of last batch. Plenty will fail beep and interview so I'd say there will be another call for beep tests next year.
Keep in mind there is allso a massive push for diversity...
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 11, 2018, 02:03:38 PM
Has anyone not received a email either way yet? Or is it
Just me haha
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Danglobe8 on September 11, 2018, 02:10:46 PM
Exactly Canine and if what I have heard about 300 recruits in 5 years might result in another 6 squads from this recruit drive. So as left foot snap said I guess we are still a live hope at this stage.  3 stages left can and will knock out people so never say never
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
I just got an unsuccessful email
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on September 11, 2018, 02:17:22 PM
I got a "keep fit" too. Seems to be a lot of "keep fit" letters but not as many people saying they've got through to PAT1.

For the people who got through what is your scheduled time for Friday? Just trying to gauge how many they might be testing.

I wonder if SAMFS is only testing for the first squad. Since there is 3-4 months in between intakes, a lot could change for people in that time. It would also spread out recruitment timeframes and ease the pressure on the HR department. Maybe im just being hopeful haha.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zeke11 on September 11, 2018, 02:17:57 PM
I just got an unsuccessful email

Unsuccessful keep fit?
Or just unsuccessfull? If just unsuccessful sorry to hear
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on September 11, 2018, 02:21:20 PM
I just got an unsuccessful email

Unsuccessful keep fit?
Or just unsuccessfull? If just unsuccessful sorry to hear

Yea mate, sorry too.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 11, 2018, 02:24:24 PM
I got a "keep fit" too. Seems to be a lot of "keep fit" letters but not as many people saying they've got through to PAT1.

For the people who got through what is your scheduled time for Friday? Just trying to gauge how many they might be testing.

I wonder if SAMFS is only testing for the first squad. Since there is 3-4 months in between intakes, a lot could change for people in that time. It would also spread out recruitment timeframes and ease the pressure on the HR department. Maybe im just being hopeful haha.

Thoughts?

I think you may be just hopeful. They will run enough through the PAT 1 to allow for multiple squads. They will then take enough to the interview stage to allow for a squad to be filled if people are unsuccessful at the interview/PAT 2/Medical, where a number of people may be unsuccessful.

Psych test is ranked. Aptitude is pass/fail.

As for passing similar tests for other sevices, it’s pribably got to do with the volume of applicants in the NT vs SA, which is more competitive. There are plenty of people
Who have gotten a keep fit before then called up for the PAT 1. It all depends on how many are successful in making it through each stage.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 80224 on September 11, 2018, 02:33:40 PM
I received the "keep fit" letter, a mate received a plain "unsuccessful" one.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on September 11, 2018, 02:34:25 PM
I think you may be just hopeful. They will run enough through the PAT 1 to allow for multiple squads. They will then take enough to the interview stage to allow for a squad to be filled if people are unsuccessful at the interview/PAT 2/Medical, where a number of people may be unsuccessful.

Cheers mate. Gotta keep the dream alive somehow though hey haha
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 11, 2018, 02:39:40 PM
I just got an unsuccessful email

Unsuccessful keep fit?
Or just unsuccessfull? If just unsuccessful sorry to hear

Yea mate, sorry too.

yeah plain unsuccessful email all good , good luck to you mate might get lucky with a keep fit call up
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 11, 2018, 02:58:43 PM
What’s the wait time if u received a unsuccessful email.
Are u able to apply next campaign
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Mr Bender on September 11, 2018, 04:15:48 PM
Yes next campaign would be in roughly 2 years.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: JoeBloggo on September 11, 2018, 06:15:44 PM
I got a "keep fit" too. Seems to be a lot of "keep fit" letters but not as many people saying they've got through to PAT1.

For the people who got through what is your scheduled time for Friday? Just trying to gauge how many they might be testing.

I wonder if SAMFS is only testing for the first squad. Since there is 3-4 months in between intakes, a lot could change for people in that time. It would also spread out recruitment timeframes and ease the pressure on the HR department. Maybe im just being hopeful haha.

Thoughts?

I think you may be just hopeful. They will run enough through the PAT 1 to allow for multiple squads. They will then take enough to the interview stage to allow for a squad to be filled if people are unsuccessful at the interview/PAT 2/Medical, where a number of people may be unsuccessful.

Psych test is ranked. Aptitude is pass/fail.

As for passing similar tests for other sevices, it’s pribably got to do with the volume of applicants in the NT vs SA, which is more competitive. There are plenty of people
Who have gotten a keep fit before then called up for the PAT 1. It all depends on how many are successful in making it through each stage.

Hi Lefty,

I wondered if you had any approximate idea of the number of people who would have received the stay fit letter out of the initial 2200?  I believe Mets we’re going to skim the top 100-150 for Pat1.

Per your ‘hopefull’ comment to optimistic, do the stay fitters actually have some chance of being pulled through or are they really just reserves per se until the next campaign can bolster the numbers?  As you say, they have potentially drawn enough through for the 2019 squads.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 11, 2018, 07:55:40 PM
There’s always a chance. People from squads 52/53 were beep tested at a later date than those in earlier squads of the same intake.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on September 11, 2018, 08:32:16 PM
Yes next campaign would be in roughly 2 years.

At the seminar, the way it was explained was that people applying this intake will be tested and put into a rank. Then next year, they would open for applications again. Those new applicants will be tested, and then integrated into the existing rank. They also said that those who apply in this intake wouldnt need to re-apply next year because their test scores are valid for 2 years.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: JoeBloggo on September 11, 2018, 09:39:44 PM
There’s always a chance. People from squads 52/53 were beep tested at a later date than those in earlier squads of the same intake.

True. Thanks appreciate the response.
Any idea on rough numbers of persons in the stay fit pool?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Kirstyv on September 13, 2018, 01:23:26 AM
Hey guys, I got a 'keep fit' response too, would be keen to know if there were different types of letters sent out!

Does anyone know if you can re-apply and try for a better result instead of keeping your results from the last test?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 13, 2018, 06:12:10 AM
Hey guys, I got a 'keep fit' response too, would be keen to know if there were different types of letters sent out!

Does anyone know if you can re-apply and try for a better result instead of keeping your results from the last test?

So you can improve your personality?? If everyone was suitable to be a firefighter they wouldn't bother with the testing. If your profile changed too much from a previous test it will alert the MFS and you won't progress.
There must be hundreds with the keep fit letters
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Kirstyv on September 13, 2018, 07:45:46 AM
Hey guys, I got a 'keep fit' response too, would be keen to know if there were different types of letters sent out!

Does anyone know if you can re-apply and try for a better result instead of keeping your results from the last test?

So you can improve your personality?? If everyone was suitable to be a firefighter they wouldn't bother with the testing. If your profile changed too much from a previous test it will alert the MFS and you won't progress.
There must be hundreds with the keep fit letters


Im actually talking about the abilities testing - e.g maths, reading comprehension, spelling etc..
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 13, 2018, 08:37:41 AM
Hey guys, I got a 'keep fit' response too, would be keen to know if there were different types of letters sent out!

Does anyone know if you can re-apply and try for a better result instead of keeping your results from the last test?

So you can improve your personality?? If everyone was suitable to be a firefighter they wouldn't bother with the testing. If your profile changed too much from a previous test it will alert the MFS and you won't progress.
There must be hundreds with the keep fit letters


Im actually talking about the abilities testing - e.g maths, reading comprehension, spelling etc..


I’m fairly certain the aptitude side of things is a pass/fail, so would assume if you got a keep fit letter you received a pass and it’s come down to the personality profiling
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: phoenix on September 13, 2018, 03:20:45 PM
Hey guys, I got a 'keep fit' response too, would be keen to know if there were different types of letters sent out!

Does anyone know if you can re-apply and try for a better result instead of keeping your results from the last test?

So you can improve your personality?? If everyone was suitable to be a firefighter they wouldn't bother with the testing. If your profile changed too much from a previous test it will alert the MFS and you won't progress.
There must be hundreds with the keep fit letters


Im actually talking about the abilities testing - e.g maths, reading comprehension, spelling etc..


I’m fairly certain the aptitude side of things is a pass/fail, so would assume if you got a keep fit letter you received a pass and it’s come down to the personality profiling

Correct.
Maths / English is pass or fail.
Keep fit refers to being ‘in the mix’, so it’s deemed your psych results are desirable but not quite what they’re looking for at this stage.

So, keep (really) fit, and don’t give up :)
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on September 13, 2018, 03:47:09 PM
Hi guys , I’ve got a question for the guys/girls that have been successful in the process or know anyone that has been . Have you heard of anyone thats got through with a criminal record? IE speeding fine etc ...... I know the MFS website states each case will be judged on its own grounds . Any advice would be excellent 👍
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on September 14, 2018, 12:39:00 PM
Guys and Gals that contested the Pat1 today. How did you go, any participants from your group not make the 9.6?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on September 15, 2018, 02:58:29 PM
I ran yesterday, only one failed with me but I was the first to run and then I left. One didn’t show up.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on September 15, 2018, 03:01:01 PM
I ran yesterday, only one failed with me but I was the first to run and then I left. One didn’t show up.

Congrats, did they give you an invite for interview there and then, or they sending details at a later date?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 15, 2018, 03:18:32 PM
Did see a couple fail, but no idea about when we find out about interviews
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on September 15, 2018, 04:54:58 PM
What time was your pat1 booked in for?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 15, 2018, 05:21:35 PM
can’t believe people dont show up and or fail... breaks my heart..
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on September 15, 2018, 06:06:21 PM
can’t believe people dont show up and or fail... breaks my heart..

Being in the "keep fit" pool, it fills my heart with joy. I too cant understand how knowing the standards, not getting yourself into the condition required to achieve the minimum requirements...
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Phil.Collins99 on September 15, 2018, 06:53:49 PM
can’t believe people dont show up and or fail... breaks my heart..

Being in the "keep fit" pool, it fills my heart with joy. I too cant understand how knowing the standards, not getting yourself into the condition required to achieve the minimum requirements...

Haha im glad , its good for you guys on the keep fit list no doubt.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Morph on September 17, 2018, 10:52:53 AM
 This is my 4th crack at this.
Time not on my side either - 42 years old! I believe the ceiling age limit is 45!

(Last time was 2015 - I did the beep test then went into the 'pool of 400,' I believe it was, but didn't get a call to the interview stage.)

 Got my letter -

      'The results of the Assessments have now been analysed and we advise that you have not been invited to progress to the next stage (Physical Aptitude Test Stage 1 (PAT1 – Shuttle Run)) at this time.
  Your application will remain on file for a period of 2 years should further participants be required to  be  called  forward  in  the  future.    In  the  meantime,  it  is  strongly  recommended  that  you maintain a high level of fitness.'

 Gutted but will keep cracking away at it.
 So it's a 'no' but sounds like a 'keep fit' that many others have referred to on here. Does it match what other 'keep fit' people received?

Anyway, going to keep at it until 1) I either get to old or 2) they let me in :-D :-D :-D

All the very best to those going through. I don't think there is a better career out there.

Cheers:-)



 
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Cobra1 on September 17, 2018, 01:06:27 PM
This is my 4th crack at this.
Time not on my side either - 42 years old! I believe the ceiling age limit is 45!

(Last time was 2015 - I did the beep test then went into the 'pool of 400,' I believe it was, but didn't get a call to the interview stage.)

 Got my letter -

      'The results of the Assessments have now been analysed and we advise that you have not been invited to progress to the next stage (Physical Aptitude Test Stage 1 (PAT1 – Shuttle Run)) at this time.
  Your application will remain on file for a period of 2 years should further participants be required to  be  called  forward  in  the  future.    In  the  meantime,  it  is  strongly  recommended  that  you maintain a high level of fitness.'

 Gutted but will keep cracking away at it.
 So it's a 'no' but sounds like a 'keep fit' that many others have referred to on here. Does it match what other 'keep fit' people received?

Anyway, going to keep at it until 1) I either get to old or 2) they let me in :-D :-D :-D

All the very best to those going through. I don't think there is a better career out there.

Cheers:-)

I got this letter too mate. It seems to be fairly common so I wouldn't think we are any form of a minority! Would be great to get an invite but I'm not getting too excited at this stage.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on September 17, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
Anybody have an indication how many people are in which pools? Also, based on discussions in this thread, sounds like there have only been 3 versions of letters received  - 1) PAT 1 invite (top 200 people). 2) Not needed at this stage, stay fit. 3) Unsuccessful with the profile and aptitude testing, try again next time. Anyone know of any other versions?

Last recruitment, there were a couple different "stay fit" letter versions following the PAT 1 (which everyone who passed the profile testing was invited to). One said not needed at this time, you are on a list for future interviewing, stay fit. Anoter version just said stay fit.

Having said all of this, it sounds like they have changed the recruitment philosophy from previous campaigns. How I understood the recruitment seminar was that the list of suitable candidates would be exhausted before the recruitment campaign would be concluded. I take this to mean that everyone who was identified as "suitable" from the profile testing would get a chance to progress to the next stage (PAT 1 and interview) as requirements for more drill squads dictate i.e. it is only a matter of time.

This philosophy makes sense, it costs a lot of money and consumes a lot of MFS time and effort each time they go through the whole recruitment campaign process.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 17, 2018, 08:37:54 PM
. I take this to mean that everyone who was identified as "suitable" from the profile testing would get a chance to progress to the next stage (PAT 1 and interview) as requirements for more drill squads dictate i.e. it is only a matter of time

Wishful thinking. They could potentially get enough for 6 squads from the 150-200 they have invited to the beep. From this forum and some mates who got the stay fit letters I'm guessing there's a few hundred on the suitable list.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: gusto1 on September 17, 2018, 09:57:31 PM
Where there anymore tested today for PAT 1 or where they all processed on Friday?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on September 18, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
I may be wrong, but I believe they were getting all the PAT 1 testing done on Friday.

I must have been in the same group as PAC, as I had 1 person not show & 1 not make the 9.6 requirement.

Now patiently waiting for the invites to interview to be sent out.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 18, 2018, 09:54:03 AM
Did anyone ask on Friday when they might send out interview invites? Refresh button will be getting a workout these next few weeks regardless
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on September 18, 2018, 10:07:28 AM
I didn't ask nor did anybody else in my group.
But they are sticking to their proposed dates pretty well, so I would hazard a guess that emails will most likely be sent late this week or early next week.

How many people did you have in your time slot sj000?
We had 22 people.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 18, 2018, 10:13:54 AM
We had 4 groups of 6, but I’m pretty sure the last group had 5 run because someone didn’t rock up
Not sure how many time slots there were during the day but I heard they beep tested about 120-130
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on September 18, 2018, 10:26:18 AM
I have heard similar, anywhere from 120-150 people go through the PAT 1.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on September 18, 2018, 10:30:43 AM
Hey guys , There were 120 tested on Friday for PAT 1 . Interviews will start within the next couple weeks .
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zeke11 on September 18, 2018, 11:34:59 AM
Hey guys , There were 120 tested on Friday for PAT 1 . Interviews will start within the next couple weeks .

Thanks for the info Mr T, any idea of how many Stay fit letters were sent out? as opposed to a straight no or cheated test letters? I think most of us are thinking the stay fit numbers are quite high
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Cobra1 on September 18, 2018, 11:50:50 AM
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Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on September 18, 2018, 11:55:45 AM
Nah I have no idea on the numbers in the “keep fit” pool . I’m guessing a few like 2015-2016 (300-400) but who really knows .....
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on September 18, 2018, 12:08:29 PM
I wonder if the file name of the letter we received can give any indication as to how many different pools there are?

The file name for mine is PPA Pool (2) and its the "not invited at this stage though we strongly recommend you maintain a high level of fitness" letter.

Would be interesting to see what other people received?

Interesting point, mine can with file name as straight “PPA Pool”
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zeke11 on September 18, 2018, 12:20:53 PM
I wonder if the file name of the letter we received can give any indication as to how many different pools there are?

The file name for mine is PPA Pool (2) and its the "not invited at this stage though we strongly recommend you maintain a high level of fitness" letter.

Would be interesting to see what other people received?

Interesting point, mine can with file name as straight “PPA Pool”

Yes very interesting question, mine also says just PPA Pool
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Cobra1 on September 18, 2018, 12:30:36 PM
I wonder if the file name of the letter we received can give any indication as to how many different pools there are?

The file name for mine is PPA Pool (2) and its the "not invited at this stage though we strongly recommend you maintain a high level of fitness" letter.

Would be interesting to see what other people received?

Interesting point, mine can with file name as straight “PPA Pool”

Yes very interesting question, mine also says just PPA Pool

Cancel that thought. Mine had a (2) because it was the second PDF I had open on my computer. Mine is also just PPA Pool after checking. Apologies! - Technology isnt a strong point of mine!!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 18, 2018, 02:11:09 PM
Is anyone here in the qld recruitment process as well?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TLC92 on September 18, 2018, 04:05:20 PM
Hiya all, I too have been knocked out of the running from my psych test. I have read on here that the maths and English is pass/fail and that they rank you in order of merit from your personality profiling! How is it possible to rank candidates from their personalities????? Also heard on the grape vine that publicly they are saying there is no gender quota but in reality they are “gender selective”.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TLC92 on September 18, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
Also have been told that “assistance” has been given during the pat2 to enable/encourage gender quotas 🤨😡
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 18, 2018, 04:34:03 PM
Hiya all, I too have been knocked out of the running from my psych test. I have read on here that the maths and English is pass/fail and that they rank you in order of merit from your personality profiling! How is it possible to rank candidates from their personalities????? Also heard on the grape vine that publicly they are saying there is no gender quota but in reality they are “gender selective”.

The MFS hasnt tried to hide the fact that they want to improve diversity. They have openly promoted it . But no standards have been lowered and no one is given help during the pat2. Fact. When close to 2000 sit the testing and only 120 progress at this stage there is sure to be disappointed applicants and conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 18, 2018, 05:34:46 PM
Invites have been sent out. Interviews early next week.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 18, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
Invites have been sent out. Interviews early next week.

Any chance of more interviews later on for those that passed the beep test but missed out on an email today?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 18, 2018, 06:35:11 PM
Also have been told that “assistance” has been given during the pat2 to enable/encourage gender quotas 🤨😡

You’re kidding yourself. Don’t try and justify the fact you haven’t been invited to the next stage by spreading this tripe.

 The MFS is one of the few emergency services organisations who haven’t lowered standards for admission to increase diversity. They have actively encouraged people from diverse backgrounds to apply but not “assistance” is offered at any stage.

To suggest otherwise is disrespectful to those of diverse backgorounds who have done the hard yards to get through the process and join the organisation.

Perhaps your “poor me” attitude is a good indicator as to why you haven’t progressed.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TLC92 on September 18, 2018, 07:04:16 PM
I’m guessing you’re a CRANK Left Foot Snap
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 18, 2018, 07:29:01 PM
Wrong. Are you sure you passed the aptitude?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 18, 2018, 08:12:47 PM
What's a CRANK?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 18, 2018, 09:58:27 PM
Hey left foot snap are u a current mfs firey?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 19, 2018, 01:36:10 PM
Anyone else pass in the PAT1 but missed out on an interview invite? I’m staying positive and hoping more invites will come later in the week
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tempcitz on September 19, 2018, 04:28:10 PM
Anyone else pass in the PAT1 but missed out on an interview invite? I’m staying positive and hoping more invites will come later in the week

I had that last intake, had an interview a few months later
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on September 19, 2018, 07:23:46 PM
Anyone else pass in the PAT1 but missed out on an interview invite? I’m staying positive and hoping more invites will come later in the week

I had that last intake, had an interview a few months later

How'd that go, can you discuss the interview at all?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: JDR on September 19, 2018, 08:06:25 PM
Has anyone on here recieved an Interview letter?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Jason V on September 20, 2018, 08:25:50 PM
I was initially unable to attend the PPA testing on my allocated day so I attended the catch up session on Monday morning. I received an email this afternoon inviting me to the PAT 1 tomorrow.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Judd on September 20, 2018, 09:59:24 PM
This seems strange. Did you have a sick certificate so you could sit the testing at a later date?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Jason V on September 21, 2018, 05:45:59 AM
No. I wrote in once I received the test date and was given another date for catch up. There would have been maybe 20 of us...
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on September 21, 2018, 02:25:20 PM
No. I wrote in once I received the test date and was given another date for catch up. There would have been maybe 20 of us...

How did it go Jason? Did you receive a “keep fit” letter original the other week?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Jason V on September 21, 2018, 03:49:20 PM
I passed the ppa on Monday and the PAT 1 today. Interview Tuesday week.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on September 21, 2018, 04:25:19 PM
How many ran the PAT 1 with you Jason ?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: phoenix on September 21, 2018, 06:59:04 PM
Very fortunate, chief. Such a quick turn around too!
Good luck with the interview!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tim on September 21, 2018, 07:53:14 PM
Are you aware if everyone who passes the first PAT Test is invited to an interview? Or do they stagger the interviews until the appropriate number of positions is filled for the second PAT test?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 21, 2018, 09:10:14 PM
In the past they have only interviewed enough for 1 or 2 squads at a time.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Jason V on September 22, 2018, 11:10:35 AM
Chief? Do I sense some bitterness there?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 22, 2018, 12:08:52 PM
Sounds like he thinks ya full of it....
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: phoenix on September 22, 2018, 01:09:44 PM
Chief? Do I sense some bitterness there?

Absolutely zero.

Unfortunate you read into it so much to assume the bitterness.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TLC92 on September 23, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
Fact 1: last recruitment campaign, a potential recruit failed the Pat 2 by way of dropping the dummy in the casualty rescue task.

Fact 2: That same recruit was given another chance to contest the Pat 2 after their Station Officer father got involved.

Fact 3: That individual passed the second attempt and is now a serving firefighter!!!

But “We don’t assist anyone during their Pat 2” Bull...t
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 23, 2018, 07:29:38 PM
Fact 1: last recruitment campaign, a potential recruit failed the Pat 2 by way of dropping the dummy in the casualty rescue task.

Fact 2: That same recruit was given another chance to contest the Pat 2 after their Station Officer father got involved.

Fact 3: That individual passed the second attempt and is now a serving firefighter!!!

But “We don’t assist anyone during their Pat 2” Bull...t

Ask your source all the facts....
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on September 24, 2018, 10:41:28 AM
Good luck everyone who has interviews this week! I'm sill waiting to hear after the PAT1. Anyone else in the same boat?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on September 24, 2018, 11:58:36 AM
Fact 1: last recruitment campaign, a potential recruit failed the Pat 2 by way of dropping the dummy in the casualty rescue task.

Fact 2: That same recruit was given another chance to contest the Pat 2 after their Station Officer father got involved.

Fact 3: That individual passed the second attempt and is now a serving firefighter!!!

But “We don’t assist anyone during their Pat 2” Bull...t

You’ve taken a second hand information and skewed it to make you feel better about being deemed unsuitable to the role of a firefighter.

Check your facts. You are way off on this one. There was an issue with the equipment provided for the PAT2 which put the applicant at a significant disadvantage and they were offered an opportunity to re contest under the same conditions as everyone else. And they passed with flying colours. The father wasn’t involved. Stop making things up.

If you want to know why you haven’t progressed look at your attitude and posts on this forum and focus on what you need to do no progress in the future, not other people.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on September 24, 2018, 12:58:40 PM
Is it true if u didn’t pass the first stage ie abilities testing, that u can’t apply again in 12 months time when recruitment opens again? Just curious as it wasn’t mentioned in my unsuccessful email.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on September 24, 2018, 01:25:06 PM
Is it true if u didn’t pass the first stage ie abilities testing, that u can’t apply again in 12 months time when recruitment opens again? Just curious as it wasn’t mentioned in my unsuccessful email.

I was wondering the same thing if you don't pass the interview can you apply again when they recruit next year. A bit confusing
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on September 24, 2018, 03:09:34 PM
I echo Pac's earlier comment. Good luck to everyone at interviews this week.

Regarding the re-applying if unsuccessful. I believe, from what I can remember of the information session is that they keep your file on record for 2 years.
So you are able to re-apply. However, they may reject your application if you failed one of the steps.

This is what I took away from the information night. I may be well off the mark though so please don't hold this as fact.
If I am unsuccessful at my interview on Thursday I will still be re-applying next intake to try and put myself back in the mix.
All you can do is try and try again! Good luck!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 24, 2018, 03:24:24 PM
Yes good luck to all who scored an interview!

Did they mention at these information sessions if they would be opening applications each year? Or do you think it will be like the last intake where they just keep taking people who have currently received an interview and who are in the ‘keep fit’ pool?

All we can do is speculate I guess
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: tim on September 24, 2018, 03:53:21 PM
I'm one of the group whose run the PAT1 testing but hasn't heard an news about an interview, waiting to hear either way. Having multiple intakes from one big recruitment does make it a bit confusing ill be honest.

Good luck to everyone whose having an interview. Look sharp.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on September 24, 2018, 04:09:14 PM
I'm one of the group whose run the PAT1 testing but hasn't heard an news about an interview, waiting to hear either way. Having multiple intakes from one big recruitment does make it a bit confusing ill be honest.

Good luck to everyone whose having an interview. Look sharp.

In the past they have interviewed in batches for each squad so it may be similar this time. Eg interview 50 and take top 24 for squad 1 then interview 50 for next squad and mix them in with the remaining from first batch based on interview scores.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on September 25, 2018, 02:18:10 PM
Just received an email saying, congratulations on passing PAT1 but you won’t be getting an interview at this time, keep fit...
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on September 25, 2018, 02:23:38 PM
Just received an email saying, congratulations on passing PAT1 but you won’t be getting an interview at this time, keep fit...

Same, hopefully we get an interview in a few months time.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: JDR on September 25, 2018, 03:59:58 PM
Got the same email too. Next round might not be until the new year, but Ill take it when ever it comes.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on October 01, 2018, 03:49:13 PM
How did everyone that had an interview last week find it? Was it how you expected?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on October 08, 2018, 04:47:30 PM
Anyone who had interview hear back yet?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: RCG on October 08, 2018, 08:56:47 PM
A few lads I train with told me their mate has his Pat2 this Friday.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on October 26, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
How’s everyone who’s left been going? My mate got his rank, wonder how many courses they will fill from those interviewed
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on October 26, 2018, 08:29:27 PM
What do you mean by rank sj000?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on October 26, 2018, 08:44:08 PM
Cab ranked within the people who were interviewed
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on October 26, 2018, 08:47:37 PM
Has he passed the PAT2, medical etc?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on October 26, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
Yeah he has, did you have an interview Velvet?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on October 26, 2018, 08:52:34 PM
Just interested, what is his rank?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on October 26, 2018, 09:06:20 PM
Not my position to give that away sorry
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on October 26, 2018, 09:46:48 PM
Understandable sj000
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on October 30, 2018, 11:27:54 AM
Hey all , Has anyone heard anything regarding the 1st squad? HR would have to be getting close to notifying the successful applicants now .......
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zoomer on November 01, 2018, 03:55:28 PM
Hi everyone,

Received an email today saying you have not been selected for a Pat 2, more information to come, i had my interview on 28/09, anyone else get the same?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Tyler2008 on November 01, 2018, 06:32:04 PM
Hi Zoomer,
I too recieved the same email today. Very interested to know if I am unsuccesful with my application all together, or if I am on a waiting list.
Cheers.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on November 01, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
Hey guys,

Does it say .... you have not been selected for a PAT 2 “at this stage” . My understanding is they only put enough through for each squad at a time .
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zoomer on November 02, 2018, 09:11:34 AM
Hi Mr T and Tyler2008,

My email says your have not been selected for a Pat 2, more info to come so i am guessing this is not an unsuccessful email, i am only guessing however it may be that you get put back in the "pool" to possibly be re-interviewed etc if they decide to put through more squads.

I am only guessing though, it does not give you a good idea of where you stand though does it?

Cheers
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on November 02, 2018, 09:31:23 AM
Hey Zoomer,

I reckon what they will do is interview the remaining pool and mix them in with the guys already interviewed and pull the second and possibly third squad from that. Just my opinion.......
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 02, 2018, 09:37:50 AM
I agree with Mr T, I think they will either interview the remaining who passed the PAT1 and then add you guys into that pool to select the PAT2 for remaining squads
Or if there are enough who have already been deemed suitable from the interview and are waiting on a PAT2, they will draw the second squad from that, but again, who knows
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on November 02, 2018, 10:56:12 AM
Any idea how many people have been interviewed?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zoomer on November 02, 2018, 11:41:00 AM
Hi Guys,

          yes totally agree they will interview the rest that passed the Pat 1 and get a third squad from that with the guys that received a no Pat 2 but more info email, i believe so far they have interviewed just over 60.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 02, 2018, 11:47:41 AM
I’ve also heard around 60 were interviewed, wonder when you will hear this ‘more info to come’ and what that info actually is
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on November 02, 2018, 12:13:10 PM
Around 60 interviewed and 25 invited for PAT2. Heard 2 or 3 failed PAT2. 
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on November 02, 2018, 03:06:26 PM
So, in summary, 200 invited to PAT 1, 60 to interview and 25 to PAT 2. Unknown number in "keep fit" (PPA Pool)?

Has squad size been increased as was hinted at during the recruitment seminar?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 02, 2018, 03:08:57 PM
I thought it was more around 130 invited to PAT1? And they are doing squads of 24
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zoomer on November 02, 2018, 03:15:45 PM
Hi sj000,

            Yes i heard they are doing squads of 24, i thought they would have done more than 25 Pat 2's though to count for some that fail it.

Cheers
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on November 02, 2018, 03:35:14 PM
I thought it was more around 130 invited to PAT1? And they are doing squads of 24

Okay, even better for those in the "keep fit" pool. Anyone able to confirm how many went through PAT 1?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on November 02, 2018, 03:43:09 PM
I believe 130 PAT1 but a few didn’t attend. Also squads of 24 now but 6 left over from last intake that have passed everything and will be in first squad. SJ000 is your mate one of those from the last intake given he has received his cab rank?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on November 02, 2018, 03:46:55 PM
I heard .....120ish through PAT 1 , 60ish interviewed , 25ish PAT 2 . Give or take a few
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 02, 2018, 04:01:50 PM
Yes Velvet, he was left over from the last intake
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 02, 2018, 04:05:30 PM
Has anyone been deemed unsuccessful after the interview yet? Be interesting to know how many haven’t progressed from that stage vs how many waiting for a PAT2
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on November 04, 2018, 04:08:16 PM
Hey Zoomer,

I reckon what they will do is interview the remaining pool and mix them in with the guys already interviewed and pull the second and possibly third squad from that. Just my opinion.......

I've heard they will reopen applications in about June for people that didn't apply this time and they will be mixed in with current ranking.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on November 04, 2018, 04:44:55 PM
Hi Canine ,

Yeah Ive also heard this . It will be interesting to see how many apply. The fact that they need so many recruits over the coming years, looks like they want a big pool to pick from.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 05, 2018, 08:33:16 AM
I’ve also heard that will be happening in July, wouldn’t they still need a squad to start before then?
I’m still holding hope that either the extra info that the guys waiting for a PAT2 is that they are on a waiting list, or they will interview the remaining pool
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zoomer on November 05, 2018, 11:55:00 AM
Hi Canine,

         yes i have heard that they will re open applications again in June/July for a new pool, will have to wait and see.

Cheers,
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on November 10, 2018, 07:09:12 AM
Anyone going to the open day today? Apparently they have a recruitment info  stand. I’m hoping to get some information on where the “Stay Fit” people are sitting in regards to progressing.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 10, 2018, 09:01:49 AM
I’m not able to, but if you’re able to pass on any info that would be great
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on November 10, 2018, 09:27:16 AM
I'm about to head out to the open day as well, so I'll also have a chat and try to gauge where people stand from the various pools.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on November 10, 2018, 11:34:07 AM
I just left the open day, I spoke to a few guys and even managed to introduce myself to the acting Chief Officer. Not a whole lot to report out of it, they did confirm that they only pulled enough through to make one squad at the moment starting early next year so there would be plenty more people being called through. They said if you have received a keep fit letter you were essentially ranked high enough to still be in the running but not high enough to be called upon now. The person at the recruitment desk said they were looking at atleast 3 squads next year. Interestingly she wasn't quite so confident that there would be another call for applicants mid year like previously suggested.

@sj000 I specifically asked about the pool of applicant's who did the beeptest but weren't called upon for an interview and the guy i asked wasn't aware that anyone was in that situation, having said that, it wasn't the person manning the recruit desk so not sure what their position is.
Would be interested to see if FireLuke or anyone else got anything else out of it.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 10, 2018, 01:17:36 PM
Thanks @Gpats
It’ll be better for all of us if they don’t run another recruitment drive right awa
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on November 10, 2018, 07:45:06 PM
There will need there to be a significant number of retirements and promotions if you think there will be 3 squads of 24 next year. They will only ever plan one squad in advance as its dependent on global numbers of firefighters, funding and resources. Don’t take 300 over the next 3 years as a certainty.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 11, 2018, 08:45:57 AM
Unfortunately Left Foot Snap, the best we can do at this point is to stay optimistic and try and guess what is happening 
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 15, 2018, 11:23:02 AM
If anyone follows the Facebook page, “Fire Recruitment Australia” I saw old mate there is saying they will open applications again halfway through 2019... but he probably knows about as much as we do right now
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on November 15, 2018, 12:31:44 PM
I haven't personally had any dealings with Fire Recruitment Australia but I have heard from a couple of serving fire-fighters that the guy is a bit of a clown, so I wouldn't give to much credence to anything he says.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on November 15, 2018, 01:19:57 PM
I haven't personally had any dealings with Fire Recruitment Australia but I have heard from a couple of serving fire-fighters that the guy is a bit of a clown, so I wouldn't give to much credence to anything he says.

He is a boof head. Trying to make some cash out of applicants desperation. He is never accurate with when applications will open. He probably saw a few comment on here about mid year.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pitboss on November 27, 2018, 02:29:42 PM
Hi guys, my friend got the keep fit letter and he just got an invitation for the PAT1. Has anyone else received an invitation?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crank101 on November 27, 2018, 03:38:51 PM
Yep, got the same letter today after having received a keep fit initially
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 27, 2018, 03:46:03 PM
Approximately what dates are your PAT1s out of interest?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on November 27, 2018, 03:51:36 PM
I received a Pat1 email today also after initially getting the keep fit email. Mine is for the 11th of December
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: theg25 on November 27, 2018, 04:02:05 PM
Mine is the same date, 11th December, after initially getting the keep fit letter. Great news for all those who received the keep fit letter!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pitboss on November 27, 2018, 05:12:59 PM
Guys that got your PAT1 invitation what is the first letter of your last name?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 27, 2018, 05:44:41 PM
Good luck all!!  hope you did actually ‘keep fit’
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: theg25 on November 27, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
Guys that got your PAT1 invitation what is the first letter of your last name?

"H"
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on November 27, 2018, 06:31:50 PM
Guys that got your PAT1 invitation what is the first letter of your last name?

"H"

Maybe they've realised with 3 not graduating from latest squad that a heavy reliance on the psych to select people isn't the best option.... So are going to interview more this time
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on November 27, 2018, 07:02:02 PM
It will be interesting to see if they re-open applications mid 19 or just pull from the keep fit pool now .........
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on November 28, 2018, 08:19:26 AM
Congrats to the people that have progressed to the PAT1!
I am one of the many that got a stay fit letter, however I did not receive an invite to the PAT1. It would be interesting to know the number of extras that were called upon.

Here's hoping more PAT1 emails are coming!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on November 28, 2018, 08:27:51 AM
I have heard they are planning on interviewing more candidates early next year, so seems these additional PAT1s could be creating a larger interview pool
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pitboss on November 29, 2018, 10:58:27 AM
Has anyone else received an email regarding the PAT1 invitations?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on November 29, 2018, 11:32:06 AM
I wonder if the people who have been invited to the PAT1 now are going to leapfrog the people still waiting for an interview who have already completed the PAT 1.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on November 29, 2018, 03:17:33 PM
My Pat1 is 11th at 9.30.. did anyone else get other times?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crank101 on November 29, 2018, 03:31:34 PM
My Pat1 is 11th at 9.30.. did anyone else get other times?
I got 1:30
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: gusto1 on November 29, 2018, 05:01:11 PM

Of the applicants that have already been interviewed has anyone actually received an unsuccessful email?
Or were you just told like me,further information would be provided soon?
Thanks
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on December 01, 2018, 06:15:12 AM
Hi all

Does anyone know the rules surrounding glasses? I.e. I think the medical states that firefighters need 6/6 Vision, but what about those people who wear glasses? I’m currently going through some eye tests and would hate to miss out on a spot due to requiring glasses!

Thanks,

James
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on December 01, 2018, 06:45:11 AM
You are required to have 6/6 vision unassisted. Therefore, glasses/contact lenses are not suitable for firefighting. Your safest bet would be to have laser vision correction.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on December 01, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Ah right, thanks Left Foot Snap.

Hopefully my eye test this afternoon is 6/6, otherwise it’s laser eye surgery time!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on December 01, 2018, 11:08:40 AM
Left Foot Snap are you able to provide any insight into where they are heading with these PAT1s?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on December 01, 2018, 06:38:50 PM
There were obviously a larger number of unsuccessful applicants in the interview, PAT2 and Medicals than expected. More applicants are probably required to be interviewed to fill a second squad for 2019, hence the invites for PAT 1.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on December 02, 2018, 10:46:24 AM
Not surprised that quite a few didn't pass the interview - got to expect that when you base the invitation purely on profile/psychometric testing.

Any idea how many extra were invited to PAT1?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on December 03, 2018, 04:54:36 PM
I’ve heard another 100ish have been invited to run the PAT 1 . I guess they will be added to the remaining pool and start interviews in the new year for the second squad......
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on December 03, 2018, 07:17:35 PM
And approximately 60 interviewed already with approximately 60 still waiting on an interview invitation, so gives them a large pool to select from with an additional say 80 passing PAT 1, interesting to see how many are interviewed for the second course
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on December 04, 2018, 07:12:39 AM
Do you think they might run two squads side by side?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on December 04, 2018, 01:08:51 PM
Maybe they just want a larger pool so they can be more selective. The current drill squad had a couple not make it to the end so they may want to widen the gene pool a bit. Unless there is a rush of retirements there would be no need to run two squads at once. I don't think they can anyway now doing 24 per squad
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on December 04, 2018, 01:58:59 PM
I think you’ll find the profiling test pool may have been widened too far for the most recent squads (600-700 deep) and hence a couple of square pegs trying to fit into a round hole. If anything, the process will be reopened again next year to get more applicants to add to the pool of those who have already applied. The aim would be to get more people through to the interview stage who fit into the parameters of the psych test for suitability for the job, rather than widen the parameters and take less suitable people.

Don’t read into how many taken through to recent PAT1. They have to release people to run the test so it’s easier to run a larger group and have extra in the bank for future squads rather than not run enough to top up a squad.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: 2beus on December 05, 2018, 10:05:29 AM
What’s the ruling for next year if u didn’t get past the cognitive testing? Can u re apply for the next intake or do u have to sit it out for 12 months?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Zoomer on December 05, 2018, 11:03:37 AM
I wonder how many failed the interview, PAT 2 etc.? It would interesting to see
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on December 05, 2018, 11:28:57 AM
Also wondering if those who interviewed but didn’t receive a PAT2 invite failed the interview or they are still in the running, wait and see what their ‘further information’ is
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Pac on December 06, 2018, 07:46:24 AM
I'd say that if the people who have had an interview and haven't received a fail letter, then they are still in the running. They would be placed in order from the interview  they had and if they are above the people to be interviewed next then they would go to the PAT2.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on December 10, 2018, 04:27:48 PM
Good luck to everyone running the PAT1 tomorrow
Hopefully they are able to give some information when you’re there about when interviews might be
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ssickers on December 11, 2018, 08:59:49 AM
Good luck to everyone running the PAT 1 today.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on December 11, 2018, 03:04:22 PM
After completing the Pat1 did others recieve an email asking for a driving history? I thought they did this right at the end? How’d everyone go today that ran the Pat1? Had one person drop out of my group.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on December 11, 2018, 05:46:31 PM
They are doing the driving history check earlier now to avoid issues down the track
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crank101 on December 11, 2018, 08:58:43 PM
After completing the Pat1 did others recieve an email asking for a driving history? I thought they did this right at the end? How’d everyone go today that ran the Pat1? Had one person drop out of my group.

I got that email too, anyone happen to get an estimate on when we would hear about next stage?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: theg25 on December 11, 2018, 08:59:45 PM
After completing the Pat1 did others recieve an email asking for a driving history? I thought they did this right at the end? How’d everyone go today that ran the Pat1? Had one person drop out of my group.

Yep I received the driving history and tattoo email.

I also had a person drop out of my group, maybe we ran the same heat. Heat 2 of the 930 time slot?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on December 11, 2018, 09:22:48 PM
Has anyone who was in the pool who ran the PAT1 but missed out on an interview received a driving history email?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on December 12, 2018, 03:08:41 PM
sj000 has your mate who has received his ranking heard when the first squad starts yet?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on December 12, 2018, 03:14:17 PM
No idea sorry mate, what stage are you up to?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on December 12, 2018, 03:33:27 PM
Passed all testing and submitted MR, 1st aid cert - waiting next comms.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on December 12, 2018, 03:53:45 PM
Velvet I’ve heard the first squad will be starting late Jan . Good luck mate , hopefully you get some good news over the next couple weeks .
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on December 12, 2018, 03:58:09 PM
Thanks MR T. I suspect the current squad will need to graduate first before any announcements are made?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on December 13, 2018, 06:26:18 PM
Offers for next squad have already been made this week.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on December 13, 2018, 07:07:46 PM
Thanks for the update LFS.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on December 18, 2018, 07:57:49 AM
Did anyone on here get an offer in the first squad?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on December 20, 2018, 10:48:40 AM
Does anyone know when HR finish for the year/go back to work in January? Those who passed on their driving history and tattoos, I’m guessing we will hear sometime into January about the next step?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crank101 on December 20, 2018, 11:36:16 AM
Does anyone know when HR finish for the year/go back to work in January? Those who passed on their driving history and tattoos, I’m guessing we will hear sometime into January about the next step?
Yeah I wondered the same, I would be guessing it wouldn't be till the new year till we hear anything
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on December 20, 2018, 11:53:09 AM
I'd guess they finish this week and back early/mid January. No rush with first squad selected already
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 02, 2019, 02:23:36 PM
How many people received invites to interviews?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 02, 2019, 03:52:27 PM
Left afoot Snap. Have all invites been sent out already?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on January 02, 2019, 05:21:42 PM
How can people in first lot beep tested not receive interviews when some from the latest lot beep tested have? They are ranked lower from personality profiling than the first lot.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 02, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
I’m wondering the exact same thing Canine...
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on January 02, 2019, 05:40:04 PM
Maybe it has to do with driving history/tattoos? When did people receive the latest emails?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 02, 2019, 05:43:00 PM
I was in the first round of beep testing, don’t have any tattoos and don’t have anything on my driving history, so doesn’t make any sense to me
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on January 02, 2019, 05:46:11 PM
Perhaps contact recruitment.. could be an oversight? I was in the second lot beep tested, first of the day, I didn’t recieve anything today?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on January 02, 2019, 07:39:25 PM
Has anyone from the second lot of beep testing received an invite for an interview?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on January 03, 2019, 07:08:26 AM
Has anyone from the second lot of beep testing received an invite for an interview?

I know of a few who have.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on January 03, 2019, 08:16:25 AM
SJ000 - you might receive an email today or tomorrow? I’m not sure what your surname starts with but the interviews last year were done in alphabetical order and they tend to give applicants the same notice period to prepare.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 03, 2019, 08:20:33 AM
Could be the case, but I know people yesterday that got their emails and interviews ranging from 14th-17th
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on January 03, 2019, 08:23:22 AM
Ok, that counters my thoughts then. Fingers crossed SJ000 and good luck
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Riseandshine on January 04, 2019, 09:21:47 AM
How can people in first lot beep tested not receive interviews when some from the latest lot beep tested have? They are ranked lower from personality profiling than the first lot.


Be good to hear how Left Foot Snap analyses this one ??
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on January 04, 2019, 12:12:24 PM
Maybe no one from first lot has missed out?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on January 04, 2019, 12:54:54 PM
Sj000 I’d contact recruitment.. make sure they actually received your email
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on January 04, 2019, 01:31:51 PM
I can’t answer this one. Call HR and ask. There were a number of people unable to complete the PAT1 the first time round due to illness who were invited to run this time. It could be that their scores were higher.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on January 04, 2019, 02:47:40 PM
I can’t answer this one. Call HR and ask. There were a number of people unable to complete the PAT1 the first time round due to illness who were invited to run this time. It could be that their scores were higher.

Complete it or attempt it?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 04, 2019, 02:58:13 PM
An email has come through, cheers all, good luck to those interviewing
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crank101 on January 04, 2019, 06:05:12 PM
An email has come through, cheers all, good luck to those interviewing
What date did you get? Did you get 2 weeks notice like others? Just curious if interview invites are being staggered so everyone has the same notice for preparation
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 04, 2019, 08:38:22 PM
Got the email yesterday, and the interview is on the 17th
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Squid on January 07, 2019, 06:36:13 AM
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone is the same boat... or If someone can pass their thoughts on:

Passed all testing, medicals, driver history and even been fitted for uniform but didn’t hear anything about the first squad which according to here has been chosen?

Do I just sit tight and hope I’m in the next squad?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on January 07, 2019, 04:11:34 PM
Hi Squid. I’m in the same boat as you. I was hoping for first squad but that starts on 21/1 so I am now hoping for the second squad but who knows??
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on January 07, 2019, 05:03:29 PM
Hi Squid. I’m in the same boat as you. I was hoping for first squad but that starts on 21/1 so I am now hoping for the second squad but who knows??

It will depend on how many "score " higher than you in the up coming interviews. You'd have to think you'll be in second squad though
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Squid on January 07, 2019, 06:34:25 PM
I think the fact we have been intervied first means we scored higher in the psych so should be fine into the second squad canine
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on January 08, 2019, 10:28:52 AM
I think the fact we have been intervied first means we scored higher in the psych so should be fine into the second squad canine

Might come down to interview scores but you'd be very unlucky to miss out
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: sj000 on January 08, 2019, 12:09:05 PM
Isn’t interview pass/fail? Sounds like you guys are reserves for the next squad
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Squid on January 08, 2019, 01:11:16 PM
Velvet did you get an email today?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Velvet on January 08, 2019, 01:40:39 PM
Squid - I received an email today. I also sent you a PM if you look under the My Messages tab at the top of the page.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Squid on January 08, 2019, 03:04:38 PM
Replied.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on January 20, 2019, 03:52:34 PM
So, in summary, 200 invited to PAT 1, 60 to interview and 25 to PAT 2. Unknown number in "keep fit" (PPA Pool)?


Anyone got an idea what these numbers look like now? I know some more interviews happening this week.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: JDR on January 29, 2019, 05:49:28 AM
Anyone heard where they are up to now? Any movement since interviews a couple of weeks ago?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: MR T on January 29, 2019, 09:43:27 AM
Did anyone ask when they expect to do PAT2’s ?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on January 31, 2019, 05:18:03 PM
Did anyone ask when they expect to do PAT2’s ?

Mid February
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: theg25 on February 02, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Has anybody had confirmation on whether the first 2019 squad actually started Jan 21st like previously mentioned in this thread or know of the expected start date of the next squad?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Left foot snap on February 03, 2019, 02:55:33 PM
Squad 54 started two weeks ago. Have heard any other squads have been put on hold until the next promotions process is completed and more retirements occur. Up 10-12 firies on all shifts with another 24 from the current squad coming online in May. A liberal government won’t let the MFS hold onto any more surplus firies.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: theg25 on February 04, 2019, 10:20:10 AM
Thanks Left Foot Snap you're a wealth of inside information!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: XHAGGY on March 26, 2019, 09:03:43 AM
Anyone know where things are at these days? When does the next squad start or when they are interviewing next?
Thanks
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on April 02, 2019, 03:04:47 PM
Keep a look out if you got the “Stay fit” letter.
I haven’t received anything yet, but my friend just received an email saying they are no longer in the “Stay fit” pool.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Cobra1 on April 02, 2019, 03:41:42 PM
I got a letter saying my application is not progressing today too. At the very least I can stop putting alternatives on hold now!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on April 02, 2019, 11:27:57 PM
I got a letter saying my application is not progressing today too. At the very least I can stop putting alternatives on hold now!

Are you allowed to reapply when (if) they reopen applications mid this year as previously advised they would?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on April 03, 2019, 11:37:56 AM
I too got an email saying my application will not be progressed, they specifically state this result remains valid for 2 years and will expire in July 2020 at which time I can reapply again.

So even if they do reopen applications this year those of us receiving this email are ineligible to reapply.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on April 03, 2019, 06:31:23 PM
Sorry to hear guys.
I'm in the 'stay fit' pool and still haven't received anything.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on April 11, 2019, 02:30:47 PM
Sorry to hear guys.
I'm in the 'stay fit' pool and still haven't received anything.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not!

Or they have forgotten about us? 🤷‍♂️🤣
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on April 11, 2019, 04:23:06 PM
You may be in numbers for 3rd squad depending on how many suitable applicants they get in July......
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on April 12, 2019, 12:39:06 PM
Yea im in the same boat too, hopefully we might get a chance. Canine, do you mean that they might be recruiting again in July? I wasnt sure if that was confirmed.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on April 12, 2019, 01:21:13 PM
Just some Goss I heard but only for people who didn't apply last time.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on April 12, 2019, 10:58:58 PM
Any idea how many are left in the "keep fit" pool?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on April 14, 2019, 03:39:58 PM
Is there a 2nd squad scheduled to start after the completion of the 1st squad, which should be finishing in early May?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on April 14, 2019, 06:48:42 PM
Is there a 2nd squad scheduled to start after the completion of the 1st squad, which should be finishing in early May?

Yeah mid May. I think they have been notified
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on May 11, 2019, 07:53:49 PM
Congrats to the first squad. Second squad must be starting soon. Has anyone been notified for the 3rd or are they going to start PAT1's again? Any rumours? How many are in the keep fit still?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on May 11, 2019, 10:43:23 PM
Second recruit course will be kicking off next week from what I hear.
Good luck to all the crew in that!

I am still in the 'Stay Fit' pool. Fingers are still very crossed!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on May 12, 2019, 11:01:43 PM
Congrats to the first squad. Second squad must be starting soon. Has anyone been notified for the 3rd or are they going to start PAT1's again? Any rumours? How many are in the keep fit still?

Apparently the recent cull of the "keep fit" pool was quite significant, but not sure how many people before or still left after the cull?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on May 14, 2019, 10:09:28 AM
Friday’s media announcement on the MFS website states they are looking to recruit again in the second half of the year.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on May 14, 2019, 06:42:40 PM
Friday’s media announcement on the MFS website states they are looking to recruit again in the second half of the year.

Rumour is only for applicants who didn't apply last time.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on May 15, 2019, 05:19:15 PM
I got an email today for an interview in a few weeks. Anyone else heard anything?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on May 15, 2019, 09:15:53 PM
I got an email today for an interview in a few weeks. Anyone else heard anything?

Have you already done your PAT1?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on May 16, 2019, 03:43:05 PM
Yea I was in the keep fit pool of people that did the pat1 before Christmas. The email came through about 4pm yesterday so keep an eye out and good luck!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on May 16, 2019, 07:03:41 PM
Yea I was in the keep fit pool of people that did the pat1 before Christmas. The email came through about 4pm yesterday so keep an eye out and good luck!

Thats cool mate. I hope whoever is left in the running gets a good crack at it before the next recruitment drive. When you did your PAT1 did it stop at 9.6 or did it keep playing?

Has anyone else got interviews?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on May 16, 2019, 07:27:25 PM
PAT 1 stops at 9.6.

Assume these upcoming interviews are for the 3rd Squad?

Anybody got an idea how many are left in the "Keep Fit" pool?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on May 16, 2019, 07:48:40 PM
It seems strange they are running interviews with what appears to be so little participants.

It appears the “keep fit” pool has been slashed by half or by two-thirds.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on May 16, 2019, 08:02:36 PM
And of they are reopening applications soon.... And I hear there is excess firefighters everywhere and another squad starting Monday
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on May 16, 2019, 08:38:43 PM
This is complete speculation but my theory is the ones going for interviews are what was left from the first round of intakes.

Example. 2x squads 24 = 48. failure rate say 10% = 5. 48+5= 53 round up to 60 applicants tested.

After 48 recruits taken the left over applicants will go to interviews, plus the testing of the keep fit pool and the ones who have already passed interviews but not proceeded yet.

Purely by statistics the 'keep fit' who received a no thank you letter will have missed out because of numbers available for this year and historical failure rate of the process.

So by the time the new recruitment drive has been given results, at the end of the year, 2 more squads will have been selected from the remaining.

SPECULATION ONLY, im just try to be optimistic for my own situation   :-D
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on May 20, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
It appears the “keep fit” pool has been slashed by half or by two-thirds.

Half or two-thirds of how many though?

They said at the recruitment seminar that unlike previous intakes, if you make it to a particular stage of the process, you won't just be left hanging indefinitely and then told at the end bad luck, try again next time. Rather you will be given an opportunity to progress to the next stage. So in my opinion, being in the "keep fit" pool means you fit the required profile and therefore have made it to Stage 1 of the process. I am working on the assumption that this means you will be called (at some stage) to progress to PAT 1 and then to interview. This would make sense as it requires a significant amount of time, effort and money every time they start a new recruitment process from scratch. Why would you start all over again when you've still got people who fit the profile that haven't been interviewed yet (yes, I know they have done this in previous intakes).
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on May 21, 2019, 11:05:35 AM
Many from the keep fit pool have received better luck next time letters so your assumption is incorrect. Unfortunately it would be too costly and time consuming to interview 4-500 or more applicants.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on May 21, 2019, 11:11:22 PM
Many from the keep fit pool have received better luck next time letters so your assumption is incorrect. Unfortunately it would be too costly and time consuming to interview 4-500 or more applicants.

I was talking about those left after the recent cull of the "keep fit" pool.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Stilltrying on May 24, 2019, 11:43:29 AM
Apparently there is a squad in at the moment and it's frustrating for all of us who are in the keep fit pool.
I've heard that they will be running another squad prior to the end of the year and was wondering if anyone has news on whether the candidates have already completed their pat 1 or will they be using people from the keep fit pool and getting them to do their run.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gecko on May 29, 2019, 07:57:15 PM
I too got an email saying my application will not be progressed, they specifically state this result remains valid for 2 years and will expire in July 2020 at which time I can reapply again.

So even if they do reopen applications this year those of us receiving this email are ineligible to reapply.

Hi mate. This is my first forum so apologies for any mistakes. My email said as a consequence of my interview result, I won’t be progressing. Results remain on file for two years and am not required to submit an application in this time. I 99% read this the same as you but have heard of people being ramped in the past and have the smallest hope that I could be looked at again, or that “not required” means that I could reapply. Does yours say the same? Or does it actually say your aren’t allowed to?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on May 29, 2019, 10:51:53 PM
The wording is a bit broad. When did you get your email?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gecko on May 29, 2019, 11:08:20 PM
January third
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gpats on May 30, 2019, 10:04:46 AM
I too got an email saying my application will not be progressed, they specifically state this result remains valid for 2 years and will expire in July 2020 at which time I can reapply again.

So even if they do reopen applications this year those of us receiving this email are ineligible to reapply.

Hi mate. This is my first forum so apologies for any mistakes. My email said as a consequence of my interview result, I won’t be progressing. Results remain on file for two years and am not required to submit an application in this time. I 99% read this the same as you but have heard of people being ramped in the past and have the smallest hope that I could be looked at again, or that “not required” means that I could reapply. Does yours say the same? Or does it actually say your aren’t allowed to?

My email may have been slightly different to yours, I never got up to the interview stage and was still in the keep fit pool after the personality profiling and abilities assessment. The email I got did specifically state "Your application lifecycle expires in July 2020, during which time you are ineligible to reapply".
It's not going to hurt to keep your eyes peeled on both this forum and the SAMFS website but after going through several recruitment processes in the past I really wouldn't get your hopes up. It sounds as though they still have a lot of people at different stages of the recruitment process to call upon and the MFS website indicates they will be taking in new applications later in the year which will expand the competition even further.
The good news is that from everything I've heard they will be taking on squads fairly regularly over the next couple of years, so as long as you don't mind a bit of waiting there will be other opportunities.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on June 06, 2019, 04:36:15 PM
Hi all
Anyone have any idea as to how many still left in the interview stage? I had my interview this week. I heard that there may be a squad starting in September from this current interview batch, anyone know any different?
Cheers
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Ball222 on June 14, 2019, 10:24:23 PM
Hi all
Anyone have any idea as to how many still left in the interview stage? I had my interview this week. I heard that there may be a squad starting in September from this current interview batch, anyone know any different?
Cheers

Hi all, first post on this forum. Yes I've also heard there is a squad starting Sept, possible PAT2 by end of June?? Did you hear back about your interview James8441?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: TE on June 15, 2019, 08:20:43 AM
Hi guys,

I had an interview a couple weeks ago, I have the Pat2 this coming Friday with potential medicals the following week. I heard they interviewed 60, plus there’s a few leftover from the squad in currently. Be interesting to know how many got through to the Pat2. Potentially enough for 2 more squads?

Best of luck to everyone still in the mix!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on June 15, 2019, 01:52:34 PM
Hey guys
Yep, made it through to PAT2 (which is in a couple of weeks), then have medicals booked in for the week after. Starting to get nervous now! Good luck to all still in the pool.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Ball222 on June 15, 2019, 07:22:53 PM
Congratulations guys, well done on moving on to PAT2. Hope all goes well, you're close now - very exciting.

When did you find out you'd passed the interview?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on June 15, 2019, 09:58:37 PM
Congratulations guys, well done on moving on to PAT2. Hope all goes well, you're close now - very exciting.

When did you find out you'd passed the interview?

Found out last Thursday afternoon, fair bit earlier than I’d expected so was a big surprise.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FF GAZZ on June 17, 2019, 02:12:52 PM
For those left on the “keep fit” list, has anyone contacted HR to try and get any information from them as to what’s going on with the applications, especially since it looks they are recruiting again soon?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on June 17, 2019, 08:22:27 PM
For those left on the “keep fit” list, has anyone contacted HR to try and get any information from them as to what’s going on with the applications, especially since it looks they are recruiting again soon?

No - just playing the waiting game. Be good to know how many others are still in the "keep fit" pool.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Ball222 on June 19, 2019, 05:37:35 PM
For those left on the “keep fit” list, has anyone contacted HR to try and get any information from them as to what’s going on with the applications, especially since it looks they are recruiting again soon?

No - just playing the waiting game. Be good to know how many others are still in the "keep fit" pool.

When you say yours still in the keep fit pool, where abouts are you up to/waiting? Surely they wouldnt just keep people waiting indefinitely somewhere in the process, you'd get a call up at some stage? Or am I wrong in assuming this?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on June 19, 2019, 09:38:43 PM
Completed the Profile/Personality testing, waiting in the "keep fit" pool to be called for PAT 1.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Optimistic on June 22, 2019, 09:03:43 PM
Im in the 'keep fit' too.

Im at the stage where I just want an email saying 'pat1' or no. Its hard on the whole family when it feels like your life is on hold for the last year.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: James8441 on June 23, 2019, 08:46:18 AM
Im in the 'keep fit' too.

Im at the stage where I just want an email saying 'pat1' or no. Its hard on the whole family when it feels like your life is on hold for the last year.

Yeah it’s tough being kept in the dark for so long. At least you know your Psych test responses are desirable, so should you do them again you can be consistent.

I’m through to the PAT2 next week. Would most people agree that if you pass PAT2 then you’re pretty much in? They would probably have a few extras that may be held over for a future squad I guess.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ct18 on June 25, 2019, 01:57:02 PM
It's certainly a tough process.

I had an interview nearly 3 weeks ago now. I haven't had any correspondence since. I haven't been asked forward for Pat2, but I haven't been told that i'm still in the pool. I just haven't heard anything.

So still waiting!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Ball222 on June 25, 2019, 04:19:48 PM
I am also in the same boat.

Had the interview 3 weeks ago but am yet to hear back. There were PAT2s last week and this week. Do you think we are being held off as reserves in case or maybe being held off for the next round of PAT2s? You think we would've heard by now if we were no longer required?


It's certainly a tough process.

I had an interview nearly 3 weeks ago now. I haven't had any correspondence since. I haven't been asked forward for Pat2, but I haven't been told that i'm still in the pool. I just haven't heard anything.

So still waiting!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ct18 on June 25, 2019, 04:26:18 PM
I am also in the same boat.

Had the interview 3 weeks ago but am yet to hear back. There were PAT2s last week and this week. Do you think we are being held off as reserves in case or maybe being held off for the next round of PAT2s? You think we would've heard by now if we were no longer required?


My thinking is if we were terrible in the interviews they would have told us by now. They usually have everyone ranked so I'm assuming they'll do Pat 2's on the top say 25 then if some fail do more? How knows!
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Ball222 on June 25, 2019, 04:56:49 PM
Agreed - that would make sense and I'm hoping it is true!
No real point in holding onto us if we were not suitable based on our interview score.

If we're still a chance for a PAT2 call up at some stage, I've believe we could be waiting without any notice for a bit - maybe the first round of the next recruitment drive if we miss out on this round?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ct18 on June 27, 2019, 10:43:49 AM
Yes Ball222 I hope we'd be in the running for the first round of the next recruitment drive. However Pat 1 only lasts for 12 months I did mine in Jan so maybe i'll have to do that again if I am still in the running as next squad I think would be Next year.

It's such a waiting game.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: FireyV on June 28, 2019, 12:26:44 PM
Hey guys.
For those not able to attend the info sessions, the MFS will open the recruitment in July this year for all those that did not apply last year.
Also, for those like me that are still in the 'Stay Fit' pool, they did say to 'Hold tight'. I am hoping we will hear something in the next few months.
Good luck to everyone in that position, and good luck to everyone that will be applying in July.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Ball222 on June 28, 2019, 03:22:57 PM
Yes Ball222 I hope we'd be in the running for the first round of the next recruitment drive. However Pat 1 only lasts for 12 months I did mine in Jan so maybe i'll have to do that again if I am still in the running as next squad I think would be Next year.

It's such a waiting game.

 The wording within my PAT1 stay fit letter was "You are advised that your PAT1 result is valid for 12 months. If you are not invited to attend an interview within that period, you will be required to undertake the PAT1 again in order to remain in the process."

As we've been interviewed, do you think we bypass the requirement to be retested if 12 months lapses and we are invited to PAT2 at some stage after that period?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ct18 on July 03, 2019, 01:01:24 PM
I have received an update from MFS, to say they have sufficient applicants from the last round of interview for Pat2 however based on the results of my interview I am in the pool for future consideration. My results now will last 2 years from August 2018 and no need to reapply.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Ball222 on July 03, 2019, 06:51:35 PM
I have received an update from MFS, to say they have sufficient applicants from the last round of interview for Pat2 however based on the results of my interview I am in the pool for future consideration. My results now will last 2 years from August 2018 and no need to reapply.

I guess that's good news somewhat? At least your still in for consideration - possibly in the next round later this year.

Did you receive an email or did you contact HR?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: ct18 on July 04, 2019, 05:15:13 PM
I sent them an email asking if we were still up for consideration after the interviews.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Surf78 on July 10, 2019, 01:46:14 PM
I am way back in the passed the personality test and stay fit pool and received this email today

This is to advise you that your application remains active and will continue to do so for the application lifecycle period of 2 years effective from August 2018. During this time and subject to MFS requirements, you may be invited forward to contest the PAT1. It is important to note that you are not eligible to re-apply in Recruitment and Selection Campaigns that may occur within your 2-year application lifecycle period.

At least it’s positive but by the sounds of it, I’m still a long way back in line, but in the words of Jim Carey in Dumb and dumber “so you’re telling me there’s a chance!”

Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crow on July 26, 2019, 09:34:31 AM
I am way back in the passed the personality test and stay fit pool and received this email today


Same here.

Also know someone who got the rejection letter at the beginning of the year.
He was invited to redo the Ability Test but not the profiling as that is valid for 2 years.
He doesn't have to pay the $100 again so that is a win for him.

The MFS recruitment page has been updated and has a detailed timeline, which they have not done previously.

http://www.mfs.sa.gov.au/site/join_us/how_to_join/recruitment_schedule.jsp
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crow on July 26, 2019, 09:45:29 AM
How is everyone's beep test training going...
Has anyone started to drag people around at the beach.   :lol:

I attended an info session this year and it was half empty. Did anyone attend the evening sessions? Were they full.

There is even a 5th session created for 29th. Is that because there was not as much interest as they expected this time around?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on July 27, 2019, 01:07:32 PM
There is less interest because anyone who applied last time can't apply this time. What was the selling point at the info sessions? Family friendly lifestyle and all the crap. Did they mention much greater chance of getting cancer hence why 12 types of cancers cover firefighters under WorkCover? Do they mention cutting badly injured or dead people out of cars? Attending suicides? Etc.
Or is it all Rosey to attract the "diverse" workforce they want for some reason?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crow on July 27, 2019, 03:20:37 PM
It was the same as last year.
Just a bit clearer on the recruitment process.
I just wanted a refresher in case I missed anything.

I'm sure others went for the same reason.

I wander how many more applicants they will get.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crow on August 02, 2019, 10:56:25 AM
Does anyone remember this section from last years online application:

" Equity and Diversity
The MFS is an Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) employer that is committed to ensuring our workforce reflects the diversity of the community by encouraging men and women, and people from culturally diverse backgrounds and Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders to apply.
The following question is not compulsory. The MFS uses this information for statistical purposes only. "

" Do you identify yourself with any of the EEO target groups? If so, please indicate any from the list below that apply to you. "

Then it lists as I have attached.

Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on August 15, 2019, 10:29:45 PM
Believe they culled a few more from the "keep fit" pool 2-3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Gecko on August 21, 2019, 04:57:52 PM
Has anyone received interview feedback from 2018 yet?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on August 26, 2019, 12:57:27 PM
Has anyone received interview feedback from 2018 yet?

Ha ha ha. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: CFS_fire32 on October 03, 2019, 08:46:23 PM
Anyone from the 2018 "keep fit" pool that didn't get an "unlikely to be invited to PAT 1" email today?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Scoot on October 05, 2019, 09:20:08 AM
I got the email this week telling me that after they received the 2019 applicants and after sorting through last years and this years assessments I'm "unlikely to be invited to the PAT1 at this time".

Is it true that this years applicants didn't do the Personality Profiling Assessment in a supervised setting like in previous years?
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: canine on October 05, 2019, 01:03:08 PM
Correct. They did it at home or where ever and with whom ever they liked......
Title: Re: SAMFS Recruitment 2018
Post by: Crow on October 05, 2019, 07:23:20 PM
I already replied to the 2019 chat that I got that email too.
I was in the keep fit pool from last year.
I wander if anyone from this year's applicants got that email