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Technical Discussion => Compartment Fire Behaviour => Topic started by: strikeathird on April 06, 2006, 01:40:02 PM

Title: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on April 06, 2006, 01:40:02 PM
Hi all..

After completing CFB early last year, we were informed of the intentions to have further training in modules of SUF (Which is what CFB is a module from).

These included things like advanced door tactics (where instead of starting in the cell, we would be positioned outside, and have to open the door and enter the cell, fighting the gasses etc back..)

Does any-body know if further training in such areas is going to be developed / continued?  (Any CFS instructors that might know the answers)...

EG. Are we going to get to finish the SUF course ?  Instead of just pulling the CFB module out of it?

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: PF_ on April 06, 2006, 02:26:02 PM
What is the SUF course?

Never heard of it.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on April 06, 2006, 02:59:00 PM
SUF = Supress Urban Fire.. You probably wouldn't have heard of it without participating in Compartment Fire Behaviour Course.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: ElectricEliminator on April 06, 2006, 03:00:16 PM
supress urban fire. is it true what I have heard that level 3 is going to be turned into this, following level 2's change into suppress wildfire? I have heard that this will not take place for some time though.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on April 06, 2006, 03:46:08 PM
Haven't heard that..

Am more interested however in finding out about further training on the lines of CFB, which is a module out of SUF.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on April 08, 2006, 02:21:57 AM
Sorry I can't be of real help, but I can say that I've heard that too strikeathird... should be a great course if they get it going...
I believe the new level 3 is scheduled for 2008, and once that is out, on completion you will have a cert 4 in fire fighting (or public safety?)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: Firefrog on April 08, 2006, 09:10:12 AM
Without any background knowledge or seeing the unit of training mix, I think it's more likey that people will have a great start at either Cert 2 or 3. Cert 4 is Fire Fighting Supervision not operations... :-)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on April 08, 2006, 01:34:06 PM
oops, ok :)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on June 28, 2006, 08:20:36 AM
Well with Brett Pollini (sp) now gone, who knows how CFB of SUF sill be headed in the future...


Im guessing no one has heard anymore about the proposed training in SUF, incorperating and further enhancing skills learnt in CFB .. ?
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: Firefrog on June 28, 2006, 11:46:32 AM
Anyone know why he left? And has his spot been filled?
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on June 28, 2006, 01:10:44 PM
Im assuming in the first instance one of the Senior training officers would take his place??
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: Camo on June 28, 2006, 06:14:29 PM
Brett was a great instructor...sorry to see him go.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on June 28, 2006, 07:10:07 PM
^ Agreed.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: The Assistant on June 28, 2006, 08:07:38 PM
It is actually planned at some stage to implement 3 stages of BA
1. BA Wearer
2. Compartment Fire Behaviour
3. Advanced Ventilation Techniques

RIP Brett Pollini (Great Guy)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on June 28, 2006, 09:21:04 PM
He isn't dead...
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on June 29, 2006, 12:50:37 AM
What has actually happened to him? btw, agreed, great guy, excellent instructor...
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: 24P on June 29, 2006, 06:19:51 AM
Probably moved on to bigger and better things.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: rescue5271 on June 29, 2006, 06:55:50 AM
more than likely moved on to a better paid job.....
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on June 29, 2006, 09:45:50 AM
It is actually planned at some stage to implement 3 stages of BA
1. BA Wearer
2. Compartment Fire Behaviour
3. Advanced Ventilation Techniques

sounds like a good way to waste more vollies spare weekends... sounds liek the same crap i heard from a brigade member, tghat you werent allowed to be number one on a hoseline entering a structure, without having done CFB.

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RIP Brett Pollini (Great Guy)

W T F?
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: The Assistant on June 29, 2006, 12:30:51 PM
Once again reading to much in to what I write

I know he is not dead I just meant that he is dead from the CFS

DER!!!

I had total respect for Brett Pollini! Probably left for a PAY RISE.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: fire03rescue on June 29, 2006, 12:56:32 PM

 tghat you werent allowed to be number one on a hoseline entering a structure, without having done CFB.


someone is telling you some BS
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on June 29, 2006, 01:12:35 PM
smelt like BS to me, but i wouldnt put it past them... this is from a brigade member that finished the course very recently
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: fire03rescue on June 29, 2006, 01:21:46 PM
yea, some people come away from the course and think they are superman
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: strikeathird on June 29, 2006, 09:14:25 PM
They have probably forgotten what pyrolosis gas is already yet have the nerve to tell you that mede... Tell them to fark off..


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Once again reading to much in to what I write
I know he is not dead I just meant that he is dead from the CFS
DER!!!
I had total respect for Brett Pollini! Probably left for a PAY RISE.

Next time just dont talk.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: CFS_Firey on June 29, 2006, 11:38:32 PM
HAHA, thats a bit harsh Striker... gave me a laugh though... ;)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on June 30, 2006, 02:03:02 AM
Next time just dont talk.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats isthe best post onthis forum yet...
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: firetruck on June 30, 2006, 12:32:33 PM
oh rough, rough but funny. :-D
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: The Assistant on June 30, 2006, 02:02:55 PM
strikeathird

maybe sometimes you should think before you speak!

I WRITE what I think and if you have a problem with that so be it!

Go and yell in your pillow or hug a tree but don't bring down the quality of threads on SAFF

and ruin it for everybody else.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: firetruck on July 01, 2006, 08:07:49 PM
wow, good comeback.

because strikeathird has now left, does this mean the assistant won this one?

i think so
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: PF_ on July 01, 2006, 10:16:58 PM
Where has the 3rd alarm fella gone, the probie hads disappeared also as well as the goodbye thread.

Unless the assistant really is strikathird and he has been trying to swap identities without arousing suspicion! :-o *cue dramatic music.


People come out of CFB course thinking they are superman, does that mean their ego is their kryptonite.  (Just saw the movie :-P )
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: Sam on July 01, 2006, 11:43:46 PM
Hi All,

I have a feeling that Brett went to region 5 as training or something? In the volunteer i think.

I have just done compartment, and it is a great course gives you more knowledge, but you need to practice the skills and knowledge to be semi-proficient. Do it weekly and you might be.....

All the instructors were great guys, great knowledge and people skills so don't worry about it..

I have a feeling that they are working on a follow on course for compartment which is tactical venting.

Sam
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: rescue5271 on July 02, 2006, 07:58:49 AM
The only brett here in the region office is BRETT MERRIT the R/C.............
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on July 02, 2006, 09:16:24 AM
People come out of CFB course thinking they are superman, does that mean their ego is their kryptonite.  (Just saw the movie :-P )

you whacker....


Brett Polini has left the service.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: Sam on July 02, 2006, 09:02:29 PM
Ahhh thats right.....


Having a blonde day...

:)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: rescue5271 on July 03, 2006, 08:02:36 PM
well stop looking at the blonde :lol:
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: firetruck on July 04, 2006, 12:38:17 PM
in a post that is disgustingly off topic, what do you think will happen to this guy that plays superman? you know the curse thing.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: rescue5271 on July 04, 2006, 06:09:23 PM
No sure what will happen to him but keep reading the paper and find out :-o
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on July 04, 2006, 09:54:19 PM
huh?

oh hang on i get it.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on July 04, 2006, 09:55:48 PM
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huh?

oh hang on i get it.

just thought id post anyway to try and get that count up to the thousand mark  :wink: blinky's trying to beat me.... lol

the only other Superman i can remember is Christopher Reeve,,, and i cant be bothered researching.. so there have been more that have also had... problems later on?

enlighten me.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: firetruck on July 05, 2006, 12:41:51 PM
one other superman went nuts, thought he was the man of steel and jumped out of a window. tv series superman. there was another couple of incidents with old supermen. i wait to see the outcome with antici......................pation ( yes, i saw rocky horror picture show)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on July 05, 2006, 01:14:34 PM
one other superman went nuts, thought he was the man of steel and jumped out of a window.

LMAO - yeh after that post last night i was listening to the radio,,, this morning, and they were talking about that.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: rescue5271 on July 05, 2006, 07:05:37 PM
Who said I was trying to beat you???? :evil:
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: medevac on July 05, 2006, 09:17:19 PM
hmmm...  8-)
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: rescue5271 on July 05, 2006, 09:20:37 PM
your betting me
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: PF_ on July 06, 2006, 07:46:03 AM
Theres no way they were tally bump up posts were there.  Course youse wouldnt have done that... :-P
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: Zippy on August 17, 2008, 03:48:11 PM
wanting to bring the topic of CFB/Suppress Urban Fire back into discussion, just completed the course,  found it is pretty much ESSENTIAL for all BA operators to know the techniques...

Recommending it to all.

Any stories of those who have done it and have used the training in incidents?
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: 6739264 on August 17, 2008, 03:52:39 PM
The education behind CFB and knowing what to look for is great. But in reality being able to use the techniques correctly at a job is not something that comes along that often.

The other issue I've noticed it people not understanding the techniques properly, and causing issues. People have been passed as competent on the CFBT course, but there is no way I would ever want to be in a building with them.

All in all, its a valuable tool, but not the be all and end all of firefighting, no matter how much some people want it to be.
Title: Re: Supress Urban Fire
Post by: Zippy on August 17, 2008, 03:58:22 PM
I consider it impressive if you can put out a 3 room fire, within 15mins of the page, with 300L of water, and have Fire Cause pat your back...true story recently by one of the instructors.   And this didnt happen in Region 1 or 2.

Correct there numbers,  its just a tool for the toolbox.