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But i suppose its really up to the MFS who they want to go where i suppose?

Not really.. MFS can take 2, then ask politely, and its up to CFS to decide who they will supply.

You'll find that pretty much the only brigades that will ever do COQ are the EMA brigades around the place, althought theres no real reason why others could not.


But honestly people... wake up. All this discussion here and in the HAZMAT thread about change of quarters... Why on earth would you want to vollunteer to go and sit in an MFS station for hours on end? They pay people to do this and yet a lot of you guys are absoloutely desperate to do it free of charge?

I understand community spirit, etc.. but sometimes these things are ridiculous.

end of the world....

i hope not

Did a course with another company where the trainers weren't fireys, coppers or ambos

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ok... you liked being trained by people, who dont actually get out there and do the job "in real life" [as such]

but;

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really annoys me when we get some old firey who has never done something in their life... only done the course again and again but never done... ie rescue stuff from height above 20m...

you hate it when the trainer has no experience?

have to admit all the tv publicity about it, i thought it was gonna be some new series... not just a two hour flick?


what a let down


was still semi-interesting to watch, although im not sure why the "national fire service" was only focusing on NSW.......??

so hows everyones saturday nights?

More interesting than yours apparently mate!!!

 

Quote from: pumprescue on August 26, 2008, 11:25:14 PM

Just remember to make sure you leave enough people home to staff the trucks, wouldn' be the first time a neighbouring brigade of ours defaulted as they were all at the Royal Show on the CFS stand !!

Must have been a big stand that year...  (or a small neighbouring brigade...)

or... all for the available crew had put there name down to go to the show... whilst the rest of the brigade was at work.

Intriguing, never noticed that before.....

Quote from: CFS_Firey on August 21, 2008, 11:56:15 AM

So to get back to the original topic, does anyone have minimum requirements for responding into MFS area regardless of the call?
(For example, do you always have 2 BA operators even if you're going to an MVA?).

YES

Is this in writing anywhere? Id be keen to have a read.

mmm agreed numbers, however O2 is such a versatile tool...

both would be very nice, but if i could have only one, personally id tend towards the oxygen.

what do some of our ambo friends have to say?

Quote from: OMGWTF on August 17, 2008, 05:46:59 PM

how about we just respond with the appropriate rescue or BA crew dependant on the incident type..... surely we all know the CFS SOPs for minimum crewing, doesnt matter whos area it is

Sorry, but actually it does matter whos area it is. If the brigade is responding  into an MFS area, the minimum is 2 BA operators. no question about it, if you cant get 2 ba operators the EMA agreement says DEFAULT! Same goes for road crash i believe (but not 100% sure).

Also put it this way, how would you feel in this FICTIONAL scenario:

You are OIC on first arriving CFS truck at a house fire confined to 1 bedroom.
You have 1 BA team on your truck, and you know that the next CFS appliance is 2 minutes down the road with 2 BA operators on board. And an mfs appliance is on its way to your station for COQ

Whilst your first BA crew is making entry, the job begins to escalate, you call for a second alarm.

The second CFS appliance shows up and their BA team also begins an aggressive interior attack.

2 minutes later the COQ MFS truck(which you assume have a minimum of 2 ba operators, as thats what your EMA agreement says) rock up. <the issue is between them they have exactly ZERO Ba operators.>

2 Minutes after that, another MFS appliance shows up, same situation, zero BA operators.

Now what do you do? you have 2 BA teams attempting an aggressive interior attack, with no rescue personnel in case the poop hits the fan inside.

Very nice rant mate.

As far as i am aware, from "Master of Disaster's" first post, we are talking about a response to an incident, not a COQ. Or have you lost me? I have never heard anything about a CFS pump going to a grassie in MFS area requiring BA operators, although im sure theyd be nice.

But judging by your example anyway, im presuming your talking about COQs.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF THIS HAPPENED TO YOU!?!

THIS IS THE POTENTIAL SITUATION THAT YOU ARE SETTING UP YOUR NEIGHBORING MFS CREWS UP FOR BY NOT FOLLOWING EMA RESPONSE PLANS!

The MFS would not do this to us, so why would we do it to them?

HAH, jog on..

Irons? A & B sides? 2nd due appliances.....



hmmmmm 

I still do not see the difference between pages that have been sent previously. MOST "Respond To" pages have the incident details attached to the message. The same with location detail, haven't you had calls to x streets and intersections and street corners before?

Numbers, i suppose its the differance between the incident type being at the start of the message rather than somewhere hidden in the details, And with the location, its putting the exact location all in one part of the message rather than split up again.