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Country Fire Service / Re: Use of fire sirens
« on: December 15, 2005, 07:58:39 AM »
just for info:
there is a document regarding use of fire sirens... times/types/etc...

cant find it atm though..

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Incident Operations / Re: Long Plains silo rescue
« on: December 14, 2005, 08:08:47 AM »
Ah hah... an answer to the question... good work.

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Incident Operations / Re: Long Plains silo rescue
« on: December 14, 2005, 07:42:45 AM »
not sure... would have though SES have vertical rescue resources available much closer... perhaps it was treated as HAZMAT risk with some kind of exposure to the dust generated by whatever was hosued in the silos... hmm there i go answering my own question, but still not sure.

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Incident Operations / Re: Long Plains silo rescue
« on: December 14, 2005, 07:03:01 AM »
burnside???

why......

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Responding to Incidents
« on: December 14, 2005, 06:59:10 AM »
had a group vehicle turn up to a private alarm at 0100 the other day, no upgrade to alarm or anything like that... was like "what the hell???"

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: December 07, 2005, 04:42:33 PM »
Understand your point robert, but i think the brigades doing lots of RCR and structure related work should be getting pumpers rather than 34s...

by the way i think dual-cabs probably pose larger benefits to crews than open back style applainces.. most of the new 34s have a crew deck attached as well as the cab, which has fire curtains in it.. plus there are the benefits of comfort, air con and being able to hear/see whats going on, with the rest of the crew in cab.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: December 07, 2005, 03:57:05 PM »
i think they seem to have a problem with what they are getting... not the proces by which they are getting it...

AN URBAN STATION IS LOSING AN URBAN PUMPER AND GETTING A RURAL 34

i think its obvious what theyre problem is.

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Country Fire Service / Re: New Uniforms...
« on: December 07, 2005, 03:53:59 PM »
doesnt really matter unless your staff anyway...

i doubt that they would actually spring for a set for every vollie out there...

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Country Fire Service / Re: You'll Pay, Black Tuesday Victims To Sue CFS
« on: December 07, 2005, 03:52:56 PM »
looks like they dont have the paper online...

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Country Fire Service / Re: You'll Pay, Black Tuesday Victims To Sue CFS
« on: December 07, 2005, 03:49:54 PM »
i too am sure thats what he meant firefrog... (gramma?) but it sure didnt come across like that...

IMHO; possibly one of the worst things to do just prior to fire season.

edit: will try to find an electronic version of the article

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Country Fire Service / Re: You'll Pay, Black Tuesday Victims To Sue CFS
« on: December 07, 2005, 12:41:39 PM »
hahaha... on the other hand did you read what was said in the hills and valley messenger???

qouted "Dale Thompson Sturt CFS Deputy Group Leader"

"dont rely on us" and " dont depend on us: CFS"

just the message we want to send out to the public... especially after one of the worst fire seasons in a while...

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Responding to Incidents
« on: December 06, 2005, 04:24:30 PM »
And a lot of GO aren't whackers. :-D

agree with that too.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 03:08:17 PM »
havent heard anything about stopping the automatic dispatch of rescue to all VAs... seems to me that would be silly, as it would definitely increase the risk to human life... what happens to the golden hour when you have already spent15-20 minutes confirming rescue is required and getting it on scene? i understanmd you mean to jobs that are reported as no entrapments..... but there just not always obvious... dont forget you can be physically, mechanically or medically trapped.... it might not appear to someone that your pinned... but that doesnnt mean you can move... i have seen a car get completely turned into a convertible to remove someone who was medically trapped, the car had very little damage to it. (could that be one of the instances when a job is put down to being nothing more than a fender bender?)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 02:42:56 PM »
mmm unfortunately though i think youll find that there arent just the people that over exagerate an incident... but also people that will say "aaaw its not that bad really" when in reality there is a more major issue than immediately becomes obvious

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Responding to Incidents
« on: December 06, 2005, 02:40:18 PM »
fair call

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Responding to Incidents
« on: December 06, 2005, 02:25:56 PM »
My 5c worth:
The GO should go P1, but not drive dangerously. ie, why does he need to overtake a pumper on the way to the structure fire, when he could just sit behind them, and take command when they arrive?

because a lot of GOs are whackers?

too much adrenalin and power for vollunteers?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 02:23:39 PM »
While I agree that fire cover should be responded to all MVA's, when the caller says that no one is trapped (Which they often do) Rescue shouldn't be responded.

disagree completely.

rescue brigades arent always required purely because of presons trapped in cars... 9as strange as that sounds)

Fire AND Rescue should attend every vehicle accident... one shouldnt go without the other. as everyone says, they can always be given a stop call.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 10:41:17 AM »
ithink youll find the prob can be everywhere so i agree no SAAS commcen bashing...

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All Equipment discussion / Re: new level 3 gear (LION)
« on: December 06, 2005, 10:38:07 AM »
i tried  :wink:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 10:32:50 AM »
worth noting that SAAS call takers dont actually do the dispatch...

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 09:55:53 AM »
plan for the worst, hope for the best

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 09:22:15 AM »
as far as i can decifer,,, you have the right to complain (well we all have the right to complain about whatever we want to... )but i mean; if you think there is cause to complain then do it.
the number of things that get misreported are cause enough to respond fire/rescue  service to all MVAs..

its along the similar line of SAPOL being responded by fire service to every report of fire (rural/urban)as well as SAAS being responded to ever yreport of domestic/commercial/industrial structure fire...

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: December 06, 2005, 08:53:28 AM »
SOP for all emergency service call centres is respond FIRE + RESCUE + SAPOL + SAAS to ALL reported vehicle accidents, regardless of reports of reported entrapments, injuries, fire, etc

some people just work outside the SOPs
if your curious as to wether my above statement is true then have a gander at the SA road crash resource directory

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All Equipment discussion / Re: NEW 34
« on: December 06, 2005, 08:49:33 AM »
have been speaking to some mates from happy valley
seems pumper is being replaced by the 34

seems like someone has there head up there...... last year happy did 252 jobs (90 of which were building fires, fixed alarms and private alarms) they also do COQ for christies beach MFS.... so how will they manage this with two rural trucks?? has it become the opinion of the CFS to not put pumps in places like this becasue they have MFS backup coming, if so then i think something is terribly wrong...

love the pic btw.. sounds too me like a very unhappy valley

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The Humour Zone / Re: Sometimes Appropriate
« on: December 06, 2005, 08:16:04 AM »
Not sure why... but for some reason i think of PBI when i see this... lol

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