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Country Fire Service / Re: Murray Bridge CFS Truck Rollover
« on: March 09, 2006, 09:13:46 AM »
Obviously, it's more important to actually arrive in tact and alive ourselves rather than be concerned with being allowed to speed xkms over the speedlimit.

It only varies the arrival time by a few minutes in the long run...nothing would be worse than having or being involved in a MVA on the way to a job...

My appliance crashed on the way to a fire once, driver going too fast..thankfully, there were no crew on the back...we have now imposed an 80kph speedlimit on dirt roads as a result.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Murray Bridge CFS Truck Rollover
« on: March 07, 2006, 07:14:26 AM »
At the end of the day most CFS personal are NOT regular or professional drivers of 10-15t trucks at high speed under UDD conditions or even get any comprehensive training. Considering CFS provides training in almost everything I find it strange that the area of most risk receives only minimal training.  But if you are the driver on the way to a job and make a mistake you could potentially kill the seven people on the appliance and any number members of the public!

I agree with skirkmoe..driver training is not offered often enough...I know that there has only been 1 occasion where we've had the opportunity to be accredited (more in relation to deployments)...fortunately, my brigade is rural and my crew are used to driving trucks...I probably have at least 11 crew that could drive...none have been accredited though.. :?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Murray Bridge CFS Truck Rollover
« on: March 06, 2006, 11:47:26 AM »
You could be right Calspec...don't be surprised if we see a directive or SOP in relation to the wearing of seatbelts...back and front!

It's something that I will address with my crew...unfortunately, made easy by this example...

we rarely leave the station with full crew...pick up crew on the way..as we are a Rural brigade and it saves time...and we only have a single cab, so crew have to ride on the back..

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Country Fire Service / Re: Murray Bridge CFS Truck Rollover
« on: March 06, 2006, 08:48:27 AM »
I agree Calspec...it would also be rare for my crew to be buckled in...and our appliance was also involved in an accident (many years ago) thankfully, there were no crew in the back..they would have been in trouble otherwise..

I think that they could do with reviewing the seatbelts as well and perhaps making them sash and not just lap belts...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Murray Bridge CFS Truck Rollover
« on: March 06, 2006, 07:15:01 AM »
I am aware that there were two crew in the back, seated with belts on and they came out of it the best. All crew are home now.

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Country Fire Service / Re: When is a Volunteer a Volunteer
« on: March 03, 2006, 07:16:17 AM »
I think the word 'Volunteer' when referring to the CFS actually refers to us volunteering our time, rather than being voluntary in the way we work.
So we are volunteering to fight the fire, not volunteering how to fight it (if that makes any sense :|)

You are right on the mark there firey..and if you don't wish to follow the way we work...perhaps you'd like to witness the process of the coronial..and consider that you would be there with your OWN lawyers. If you have/had the opportunity to see what happens...you would be more respectful of the SOP's etc.

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Country Fire Service / Re: portable radios
« on: February 23, 2006, 11:58:01 AM »
what scares me more is that we can't get anymore GRN portables...period...don't make them, can't buy them etc...what happens if they start to fail..and we don't have enough NOW...

we didn't get our full roll out either...as we were the last ones...

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Country Fire Service / Re: portable radios
« on: February 23, 2006, 07:25:24 AM »
I think that it's appalling that we don't have enough radios of any description ie VHF and especially GRN portables..and they are saying that we can't have any more...nothing like standard of fire cover!

We currently have 1 portable for our brigade and 2 VHF hand helds...

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Incident Operations / Re: First Fire
« on: February 21, 2006, 07:24:03 AM »
Can't remember my first fire...have had some bigger ones though..Tulka, Black Tuesday...the ones in between seem to be insignificant...

thankfully, only 1 MVA fatality..unfortunately, it was someone all the services knew...that included the undertaker...and they were a very big person..needed 8 to get him out of car...

PF you will have many to remember...don't be too keen to get there..it could be a nasty experience first up!

the most important advice someone ever gave me (from Euan) was to take 5...it could save your life..

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« on: February 17, 2006, 10:51:37 AM »
the problem sounds the same all over the state...I agree..one day they won't have called for fire cover and the car will catch alight...and we will still be at least 10-15 mins away..SAPOL can be just as bad...we call them straight away...

last time they called us to help them get to the casualty..it was in some inaccessible country...no need for fire cover..kid off a motorbike..

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Country Fire Service / Re: Wanted Urgently: More Bush Fire Fighters
« on: February 13, 2006, 07:06:47 AM »
You're right Pete but remember to respect that it's their business and their money they are paying out...on top of their emergency services levy...imagine how much it costs self employed volunteers each year...if you find a supportive employer..don't take it for granted.

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Country Fire Service / Re: Wanted Urgently: More Bush Fire Fighters
« on: February 10, 2006, 08:12:38 AM »
Sternzee, it's not easy having to restrict an activity that you are passionate about but it becomes a balance and it will depend entirely on your employer and their views on CFS and volunteering...along with your respect of his views...

There are plenty of employers that are supportive..but your brigade and group have to also appreciate that not everyone can get away during work hours...we are VOLUNTEERS..

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Country Fire Service / Re: Wanted Urgently: More Bush Fire Fighters
« on: February 09, 2006, 07:37:51 AM »
We have a policy that supports Emergency Services members attending incidents as well..and as I get to review them, made it read so that we can be away for 5 days at a time without penalty eg having to use own leave   BUT this doesn't mean that we abuse the privelege...luckily many incidents occur out of work hours!

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Industrial & Private Fire Services / Re: private fire appliances
« on: February 09, 2006, 07:32:51 AM »
Kat, I believe it's one of those situations that is going to find it hard to please everyone...but we are making a Code that they will sign which is their agreeance to abide by what we ask...you need to look at who they are..mostly they are often NOT CFS members and so they think we are all tossers anyway and often over the top...interesting that the 2 firefighters that lost their lives were in a farmer unit...makes you wonder what we go on about really..

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Country Fire Service / Re: Wanted Urgently: More Bush Fire Fighters
« on: February 08, 2006, 01:18:59 PM »
I think that you will find that the legislation actually is in relation to an employee responding to an emergency situation..it could read either way...but going on a strike team, may not be deemed as an emergency compared to defending your property or home town..

If the communication between boss and volunteer is open and honest, this shouldn't arise...but the vollie needs to remember their priorities and which activity pays his wage...

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Industrial & Private Fire Services / Re: private fire appliances
« on: February 08, 2006, 07:37:54 AM »
I agree with Cyber...the private units are valuable PROVIDED that they work with us, are appropriately dressed and follow instruction..we have had a lot of criticism from this group following Black Tuesday and we are trialling a system that incorporates them, using magnetic numbers for doors etc...we also have a few problems with them all sitting around watching us work..my crew are landowners and vollies too...when they start this caper, we leave and hand it back to them.

We also have problems with them not being appropriately attired..eg CFS jacket, board shorts and no shoes on the back of a ute...and they would expect to be covered by our insurance if they get hurt...

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Country Fire Service / Re: Wanted Urgently: More Bush Fire Fighters
« on: February 08, 2006, 07:30:52 AM »
The hardest thing to remember or try to get a perspective on is that the employer is still paying for you to be out fighting fires and you aren't generating any income for his business.

I've found that most are supportive of you volunteering..as long as it doesn't take TOO much time away from work...which is fair..some employers are better than others but you have to respect that it's their business that is losing...

Try to see it from their side..definitely ring and contact them but be mindful of the impact of you not being at work too..or coming to work stuffed after a call out..

I'm not an employer but I always ask during the interview if they have a supportive view of volunteering...volunteering doesn't pay if you don't have a job to go to..

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Country Fire Service / Re: money to cover our costs
« on: February 07, 2006, 10:49:06 AM »
I don't mind it costing me to travel to incidents or other expenses but there needs to be a cut off point...it usually costs me about $150 per year in phone calls, if this is the case, I don't claim BUT if we have a really busy time and my phone bill costs me that in 3 mths...

Everyone considers it part of their community service to cost them..employers are keener to allow volunteers to leave during work hours compared to a retained firefighter..almost like double dipping..

It's the one thing that keeps our two services so far apart..I like being a volunteer..not retained

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Country Fire Service / Re: Wanted Urgently: More Bush Fire Fighters
« on: February 07, 2006, 07:25:18 AM »
This situation Mike is to be judged just as you said...depends on the conditions..eg are they known or is it completely unknown...but depends more on the rest of the crew..if they are very experienced, not such an issue..

We take newbies on controlled burns firstly but never stop them from a real incident, provided I have experienced crew as well...I'm lucky my crew are very accommodating and are very happy to show and teach on the job...you will also find that most newbies on a real job will try to help without getting in the way..we all learnt on the job..

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Country Fire Service / Re: Wanted Urgently: More Bush Fire Fighters
« on: February 06, 2006, 12:03:44 PM »
There needs to be a minimum experience level set for Strike teams...they are no place for newbies (no matter how old they are!) to get experience..

You are more often than not teamed with people you don't know and hope you can trust in their abilities..I wouldn't be happy to see someone who only had a few months experience on my team...they would be an added factor to consider..

You are nearly always in unfamiliar terrain, weather and sometimes, fire behaviour..not a place for the inexperienced!

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Country Fire Service / Re: money to cover our costs
« on: February 03, 2006, 07:42:52 AM »
If you attend training you are entitled to claim mileage..as a Capt I am allowed to claim phone calls but would be frightened to calculate how much I could claim for fuel, especially as I often respond in my own vehicle which then is used as a command vechicle...

But that is my contribution as a volunteer...if they start paying for everything it will be classified as an allowance and be taxable...

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Quality of food
« on: February 03, 2006, 07:23:10 AM »
We use local deli's or takeaway places more often than the Salvos..which is great..it's very hard to expect your local deli to make 50 sandwiches at a moments notice after lunchtime..eg 2pm as the fire always start at meal times...I wish I had a dollar for the time a fire started just prior to a meal time!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Worst Part Of The Fire Season Still To Come
« on: February 01, 2006, 07:48:35 AM »
You're right and it all depends on your rank at times..eg I'm a Capt, so I have Brigade considerations as well as my own and the community that I live in...it's not always as easy as putting your hand up for a strike team...

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Quality of food
« on: January 31, 2006, 07:35:48 AM »
I would hope that we pay for their supplies but wouldn't be surprised if they won't accept it...hopefully, they are using donated goods..which might be why we sometimes don't get great stuff...

There is always admiration and appreciation for their efforts though!

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As a firefighter that was right in the middle of Black Tuesday, I hope that it was our big one...for your sakes if not those of us who have been through it...BUT look at the change in the weather patterns...this is what dictates the bad ones..we have the high fuel loads etc but it's the wind and temp that makes it BAD..do the calcs...how windy, hot and low RH does it have to be to get the FDI to 365 (what they've calculated it to have been)...we have already had a couple of days of 45..the only difference..no fires..

We can wait but wait prepared, have a plan..as you said Robert, plan not to go on a strike team at the time your needed in your own area..

I unfortunately believe that it won't be the last bad fire I'm involved with as a firefighter...

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