SA Firefighter

1. Mawson Lakes was a automatic second alarm because there was a person reported and a third based on access difficulties to adjoining properties

2. Lofty Group does not "over resource" we (I) send extra appliances because we (I) know that during the daytime we have brigades that cant get crews together...so its not about over resourcing its about making sure the community receives an adequate level of response during known times of light crewing.

If I have to respond 2 brigades to a job to get 4 or five FF's at the incident then so be it..

Just be careful with throwaway comments when you dont fully understand the situation.

Cheers
Rainer

two jackets one pair of pants....its not that hard.

Guys,

It dissapoints me that there seems to be an attitiude of resentment pervailing this thread and having read through I feel compelled to set a few records straight.

1.Burnside is not a "rich" brigade there seems to be an idea that we live in a community that is throwing money at us...well let me tell you something, ..The money that were putting into our new appliance has been raised over the last 26 years and was started when we took delivery of our last Volvo pumper by some forward thinking people at the time who realised that in twenty years this appliance will need to be replaced

I personally spent much of my early CFS career selling lamingtons or raffle tickets or meat trays or election collection or etc etc (you get the idea) and the whole time the money was raised in order to buy a new fire appliance.

I think you will find that if your brigade had saved its money (even in hackam..he he) instead of spending it on "I want it now" items then you would be in a position similar to Burnsides.

2. So we are getting a Volvo Pumper... well it hasnt been easy ....this process started 15 years ago with the formation of a committee to look at what our current appliance is doing and what it is likely to be doing in the future and consequently making allowances in terms of design to accomodate these future requirements.

We then examined what the current appliance capabilities were and drew up a list of requirements that the future appliance needed ...bear in mind we were running 90m reels and pto pump in 1983 when CFS was just getting its head around 30M reels and a GAAM MK300D.

What followed were 13 years of discussion with a parade of Infrastructure & Logistics Managers and Chiefs

The process has taken a tremendous amount of effort over a number of years so it is disappointing to see it being trivialised.

Finally, Burnside has lifted the Bar for expectations of a urban interface appliance and the ball is now in your court to run with it ..If we had accepted a Dennis or Type 2 then that would be all anyone could expect.

The question is are you (your brigade) willing to put in the hard work , not spend money on stuff you dont really need (save for 26 years), and stand your ground when the CFS tries to roll over you and give you an appliance you dont believe is fit for purpose, will you present a solid argument as to why you deserve something better and something that will last longer and be fit for purpose in 20 years time when the decision makers saying NO to you now are long gone.

end transmission

Rainer

Not only will it have pump and roll but the auxilary pump is an absolute ball breaker 1.5 AGE Darley coupled to a 18Hp briggs and Stratton which delivers to the hosereels and the "HALO" cab protection system.

The pump is fitted with an "in Cab" remote start and manual activation valve for the "halo" which basically means that the halo system can be activated at any time without leaving the cab.

The locker volume is almost 7.5 cubes.

Rainer

I reckon the CFS should get the american style "screaming eagle" siren and Stutter horns as per MFB Freightliners

R

as above

Finally worked out a way to get these on here

Side stripes concept only as the Lofty Group are trialling some alternative 'High Viz" marking due to work on the Fwy (fog etc etc)

nest post is a layout dwg.

Rainer

Gday all,

James , the main pump is definetly a Darley LSRH 1000 as is the auxillary (1.5 AGE) 18Hp Briggs&Stratton

It (the auxillary) supplies the Hp lines and the "halo" system in emergencies via an automatic incab system.

Cost difference between NSW type 2 and burnside Volvo is about $140K (Volvo about $480K)

Also im sure the Burnside guys would be more than happy to bring the truck around to your station for a show and tell when its commissioned.

Cheers
Rainer

Gday all,

I am on the design team for the new Burnside Pumper and can give you all a status upgrade.

Cab Chassis: Volvo FM9 crew cab, 340Hp 1600Nm torque
CABA : 3 In cab seats 1 OIC, 2 Crew, driver set in locker.
HP Reels : 2 x 90m reels electric rewind 40mm full flow swivel joint
Water : 3000 L
Body : Integral Aluminium with aluminium roller shutters
Locker space : approx 7 cubic meters
Pump : Darley LSRH 1000 rear mount two stage capable of

   3800Lpm @ 900 Kpa for full volume

and approx:

   3000Lpm @ 800 Kpa
   500 Lpm @ 2600 Kpa  Simultaneous pressure.

Delivery approx November this year
Built by LiQuip in QLD

If anyone would like more info just ask!

Cheers
Rainer

Gday,

Re: Pbi .. We wear it at work all the time ..great gear !

Our "unofficial" policy is

Full Pbi at Structure/Domestic
Pbi pants and blue nomex top at MVA or if driving
Pbi pants and blue nomex top for tech rescue.

I think the half half method is OK because as you all know if you have a CABA qual. then you should have your Pbi with you at all times and the best way to do this is by wearing the pants and taking two jackets and one helmet with you ..

For bushfire "defensive"wear nomex top pbi pants then when the need arises switch jackets..

have been doing it for years no problems and to date do not know of anyone going down with heat exhaustion of the legs..hehe

May look silly to some but I guess were not out there to look good but to protect ourselves to the best standard available.

Cheers
Rainer

probation period is now 12 months.