Your a useless fu ck mate. Your post bore no relevance to the thread, hence my reply. You and several others are the reason this forum has never been more than a joke.
Hiding behind an alias and doing nothing more than trolling is not contributing.
Mods feel free to do whatever you like.
Straight to the heart! Have you tried meditation? You seem very cranky. There are many reasons why this forum has never been more than a joke, and most of them are pretty much the same reasons why the CFS in many respects is nothing more than a joke.
And perhaps just to clear something up, as your anger seems to be clouding your reading comprehension, my original post was, in a horribly offense manner, trying to suggest that we have no training for correct siren operation and that as 90% of CFS volunteers are unable to operate the basic controls correctly, why should they get an extra two tones to try and use properly?
Do you give a station that can't operate a 24 a Heavy Pumper? Of course not! (oh wait...)
I guess if your experience is only the MFS, or an MFS wannabe Brigade, then thats the way you think. They are wedded to that thinking, but it's actually flawed. Maybe its just that SOs are control freaks and still want to feel like they are part of the game. Maybe its just that MFS guys cant drive....I don't know. Actually, as I said, it's the driver's responsibility. Failure to correctly operate the warning devices that contributes to or causes an accident/incident, and the driver wears it - HE/SHE is in legal control of the vehicle. The officer SHOULD be doing much more important filtered on the way to a job, like listening/talking on all 3 (or more) radios , listening for oncoming appliances, pre-plans, crew allocations, thinking about bomber use,and a 1000 other more useful things at a fire, than worrying about when to change the siren from wail to yip.
But then, you wont agree Numbers.....life's like that
I agree with your basic premise regarding who is "in control" of the vehicle as per legislation. At the end of the day, anything that vehicle does is the responsibility of the driver.
In terms of common sense, (especially when driving manual vehicles) I think that the less the driver has to do the better. Not to mention that only a small portion of CFS vols are regular truck drivers and an even smaller portion are regular emergency drivers.
The setup of the siren controls in the current 34P's is a pain, but way better than having it at the rear of the console like the older 24/24P. The Type 2 Pumper with the ACS console accessible by both driver and OIC, plus the OIC stomp switch is a pretty good setup that allows either person to operate the necessary controls.
Sure the OIC has a few other things he should be doing route, but so has the driver (Appliance siting, Booster ID, Hydrant ID, not hitting other vehicles, etc, etc) and is it really that hard to mash a stomp switch to change from wail to yelp and back again while you're talking on the radio? (although the same could be said for a driver side stomp switch)
As long as the driver doesn't need to take his hands off the wheel, it could well work. I've little experience with stomp switches on the driver side, only the old ACCO High beam stomp switch. So it could work...
If only the trucks were auto, it'd be so much easier...