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Dash Roll with B pillar removed.

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6739264:
Just a quick question to see what people are thinking.

If you need to perform a dash roll, yet you've already removed the rear door and B pillar, how do you/your brigade generally go about it?

Use the spreaders as a base to ram off? Cut the sill and hinge down to create a base? Do you have Hurst Quick Kick style ram support? Not bother about Rolling the dash and go for a dash lift? Break out the pulling chains/whinch and roll it that way?

chook:
3 methods I was taught & used:-
1 use the Lukas LRS-C Ram support
2 push against the point where the floor is re-inforced and raised(where the front seat bolts on as you know).
3 cut a wide slot into the bottom of the A (or a pocket cut) spreader tips at 90 degrees & spread.
when i left they were trialing a bigger ram that would reach from the rear wheel arch - don't know how it went.
Got pictures of two & three but sadly can't post on a public forum - copyright!
We have used the spreaders to push against, but we think that too much force was applied across the spreaders (which they are not designed for) & as most units have LRS-C's & all are taught all three methods couldn't see much point.
Pity you can't get hold of the SESSA training package, good photo's :-D
cheers
cheers

misterteddy:
modified dash lift with the spreaders heaps quicker and nearly always provides as much access

RescueHazmat:
Try for a foot-well exposure, then attempt a dash lift with the spreaders, possibly bridging with a chock or two to give a bit more lift..  - Guess it depends how much of the dash we are trying to get off someone..

Latest techniques don't use the chains anymore, but, could still serve to be useful it carried..

jaff:

--- Quote from: RescueHazmat on January 31, 2009, 09:19:12 PM ---Try for a foot-well exposure, then attempt a dash lift with the spreaders, possibly bridging with a chock or two to give a bit more lift..  - Guess it depends how much of the dash we are trying to get off someone..

Latest techniques don't use the chains anymore, but, could still serve to be useful it carried..

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Latest techniques? when the course is delivered are they totally discounting the previous techniques that were all the rage back when? or are they now just suggesting possibly more efficient ways of doing the same job? Just my take on things but a technique perhaps shouldnt be discounted just because its old, only if its found to be unsafe.

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