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SA Firefighter General / Re: DENR
« on: March 14, 2012, 12:41:34 PM »
It's possible the information I was given was not 100% accurate, or the timings may be incorrect.

Just like anything SA Government related, only beleive it when it's happened, and been in place for 20 years.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: DENR
« on: March 14, 2012, 07:18:55 AM »
I heard this though a colleague, who's spouse is fairly senior within DENR.

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Incident Operations / Re: Wingfield Waste Oil fire
« on: March 13, 2012, 02:36:11 PM »
Oh gee, thats nasty. Nowhere to hide in the bucket. Hope whoever was up is ok.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: DENR
« on: March 13, 2012, 08:19:15 AM »
Something to do with the Government slash and burn scorched earth policy.

Implications for CFS could be the fact that due to not hiring seasonal casuals now, the PB schedule would probably be significantly reduced meaning more growth in the parks, and more liklihood of fires that DENR wont be able to deal with on their own.


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SA Firefighter General / DENR
« on: March 09, 2012, 10:50:39 AM »
Heard a big piece of news this morning that DENR staff were advised there would be staff cuts of 25% in 2 weeks.

All seasonal contracts will be cancelled, and redundancies done for permanent staff.

Could have some big implications for the CFS.

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Maybe we could condense COSO's to "CFS Volunteers will be seen but not heard, and where possible, not being seen is preferable".

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SAAS / Re: Paramedical Services South Australia
« on: February 15, 2012, 07:12:52 PM »
Think we need a new rule....

All posts must be in English.


Once again kellyp thinks it's all about them and doesnt see the humour.......nice to go the personal attack their kelly.

I would suggest before accusing anyone of having issues, have a good, long hard.......



.......look in the mirror.

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SAAS / Re: Paramedical Services South Australia
« on: February 15, 2012, 12:54:18 PM »
Why dont you all just drop your pants, I'll get the tape measure and we can end this bitching once and for all.


 :roll:

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Country Fire Service / Re: Forms
« on: February 13, 2012, 09:12:00 AM »
It's part of the admin manual. But given most people treat the admin officer worse than a janitor, no surprise noone knows about it.

BTW - we submit ours monthly.

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I'll admit I think I come from a pretty good region, given the negative comments that everyone else seems to have about theirs.

Our regional staff and commander are quite progressive and strive for continual improvement.

Yes, there seems to be a public service and "jobs for the boys" mentatility in Waymouth St.

As long as the CFSVA remains a toothless tiger and does what it's executive want to happen, and not what the rank and file want, we will never get any better. There is no one fighting for the fire fighter on the end of a hose/rake hoe / rcr extraction tool.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: February 07, 2012, 01:52:50 PM »
why would the means of carrying the equipment render the equipment offline? So long as it gets all the equipment to the job safely, can complete the task appropriately and perform to the same standard who gives a rats toss what or which of the designed for the task CFS vehicles is used (remembering there are several Brigades that use a 34P as their primary RCR vehicle)

This is what happens when we concentrate on names, numbers, callsigns, units, resources blah blah blah instead of "the service we provide". The only question that needs to be asked is "Is it an appropriate vehicle to be used for this response" and unless their 34P is unique in the fleet, it is. If their 24 was down for a repair or maintenance and because of that stupid SACAD responds another Brigade that is 10s of kms away, then again.....the system is broke. It's a digital solution (1 or 0, black or white) to an analogue problem.

Sounds like it's more a case of trying to point score against a neighboring Brigade......THIS is one of the bigger issues in the CFS today IMNSHO

Not sure I've heard anything sillier on here for a while

spoken like someone who has never had to try and manage resources frm an IMT perspective. Also the whole reason SACAD has so many issues...too many brigades / groups ignoring the agreed rules and still just doing their own thing. Until that stops we will never lose the Dad's Army image.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: February 02, 2012, 09:27:04 AM »
Quote from: Alex
Im sure there will always be those who disagree with the system and have a whinge about losing control, ie no more ALERTS calls, no more 'just going for a look' as every dispatch will be as per SOP, no more choosing who comes to back you up [unless its a specialist resource] etc...

But, it will be much better than the system we currently have. Finally CFS will have response data in the CAD.

no doubt it will be a much better system. I think you're being a bit idealistic (hope you're right but somehow I doubt it) but again we will see...

it's been over 2 months now since SACAD went live, has it delivered as promised?

from the AF comms point of view have ALERTS calls changed?

personally I don't see initial responses that much different than before (ignoring teething problems and things like the dopey crap in pager messages that needs to be fixed, eg. remove all that Alarm level stuff and just show the latest). But something it hasn't fixed is enforcing the "closest most appropriate" thing, I still see some groups continue to respond their entire group (listing brigades by name) before any closer neighbours.



BUT...is that a SACAD issue, or groups not playing by the rules and doing their own thing?? I think more the latter than a SACAD issue.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: January 30, 2012, 06:47:50 AM »
I CAN'T GET NO......... SATISFACTION... SATISFACTION... - MFS Elizabeth Station

I remember seeing this during SACAD testing as well. ComCen Op a bit of a Van Buren fan????

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Incident Operations / Wilpena fire
« on: January 25, 2012, 02:26:37 PM »
25-01-12 15:44:03    Requiring crew for nightshift at Wilpena tonight please contact Linda 86675204 ASAP if available BA opereators also required as well as fire fighters - CFS Wilmington Info

Organising the next shift within 2-3 hours WELL DONE REGION 4!!!!! Seems like they are on the ball.

Think they might have had some experience and learnt from them lately :)

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Incident Operations / Wilpena fire
« on: January 25, 2012, 02:13:51 PM »
Maybe this has something to do with it.....

STLN: Crews required for night shift asset protection Wilpena. Depart SNTH 2200Hrs


Looks like things have got decidedly yucky up there

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Incident Operations / Wilpena fire
« on: January 25, 2012, 07:20:17 AM »
R4HQ CREWS REQUIRED FOR POTENTIAL 5 DAY DEPLOYMENT TO MOOMBA DEPARTING 25/01/12 ANYONE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT REGION 4 HQ ON PH 8642 2399 ASAP. 24/01/2012 7:02:09 PM - CFS Melrose Group Info

Gee after all the work those guys put in at Wilmington, it will be a hot 5 days!!

looks like they paged out to every group in R4 last night. Interesting considering the fire at Wilpena Pound is still listed as going..

Looks like DENR are dealing with Wilpena with some air support from us, judging on the pagers.


I saw Eudunda also paged for a crew for Moomba, but noone else from R2, but they may have done it by phone....

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: January 18, 2012, 07:07:29 AM »
Must say in my years as a volly ambo and in comms (rider - 15+ years ago)...cant say I ever came across a job like that.

Did have a couple of vacuum cleaner related jobs though.......

 :roll:

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Country Fire Service / Re: 17-1-2012 - NASTY
« on: January 17, 2012, 12:07:19 PM »
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Or were the bans downgraded to not scare the Tour Down Under visitors???

Just very lucky really that the BOM got it a bit wrong. If they had of forecast the Catastrophic FDI's in any of the Region 2 districts I think they would have had to cancel that stage of the race.

Funny how they got it wrong last year when the TDU was going through Region 2 as well.......  :wink:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: January 17, 2012, 09:07:10 AM »
09:20:44   17-01-12   MFS: *CFSRES INC0032 17/01/12 09:20 RESPOND ASSIST RESIDENT, 18 GLADSTONE RD NORTH BRIGHTON,MAP:ADL 140 H16,TG 182, == ASSIST SAAS GENTLEMAN WITH TESTECLES CAUGHT IN CHAIR :ADL202 : - MFS Adelaide 202


Oh dear.......... 

Is that assist a SAAS gentleman....or assist SAAS, gentleman....

Punctuation makes all the difference.

Moral of the story from the job : always wear underpants before sitting down!!  :-D

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Country Fire Service / Re: 17-1-2012 - NASTY
« on: January 17, 2012, 09:04:59 AM »
Or were the bans downgraded to not scare the Tour Down Under visitors???

There has been a precedent set!

 :-o

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SA Firefighter General / Re: SACAD
« on: January 16, 2012, 12:07:19 PM »
The system will never work, it cant, they are all screwed for thinking it wiil. The whole state cannot run the same way there are so many different areas that need special thought. Sacad is a huge backwards step for the country fire service. We need the old alerts system where the brigade took the alarm call and SOC assisted with the response. Local uknowledge and a spot on response every time. These clowns are taking the decision making away from the locals and f**k**g it up completely.

Attitudes like this are the exact problem.

The locals have f**ked it up plenty of times all on their lonesome, so dont try and blame SACAD now. Alerts only worked in some location, and only some of the times. I can recall seeing more than 1 job paged out by AF with the notation of no answer on Alerts.


SOC was gone a long time ago, so perhaps move out of the dinosaur thinking, and accept we are actually the CFS, a state run organisation, and not the local cowboy run EFS. Big hint, look at the signs on the doors.

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Industrial & Private Fire Services / Re: emergency command
« on: January 16, 2012, 12:02:03 PM »
If he "helps out with radio"...how has he got a GRN, and where is his GRN accreditation to even be using the GRN?????

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SA Firefighter General / Re: GRN paging software
« on: January 11, 2012, 04:39:14 AM »
Thanks Alex. The last info I had was it was being considered. Of course iPage will be good for paging out of a group/regional office, but from home will still have to be the GRN site.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: January 10, 2012, 01:15:43 PM »
08:59:42 10-01-12 MFS: *CFSRES INC0029 10/01/12 08:59 RESPOND RESCUE ANIMAL, HARRIET ST STRATHALBYN,MAP:ADL 251 F12,TG 142, ==LARGE COCKATOO STUCK IN GUM TREE, WOMAN WAITING AT INTERSECTION OF ==HARRIET ST IN WHITE COROLLA, ********** :STBN34P 

*Squark* cocky stuck in a tree and cant get down *whistles*  :lol: :lol:

Was the lady in the corolla trying to get to a corella???  :roll:

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SA Firefighter General / Re: GRN paging software
« on: January 10, 2012, 08:35:18 AM »
The Link site also no longer works.

There is the GRN provided one, but I also dont want to publish it in a public forum.

Regions have been trialling iPage, and this trial has now expired. I dont know what the plans are for that moving forward.

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