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Obviously something in the pipeline...


21-08-12 13:53:19   STR: Please check Email. Offer of Swiftwater training. Need confirmed responses ASAP. Cheers, UM. - SES Strathalbyn

No real need for it to be attached to responses but that is just what happens in SACAD sometimes.

Happens in SACAD because it is an available resource.

If it wasn't meant to be picked up for jobs it would be 'out of service'.

There is a similar setup on KI, where Kingscote have a Bravo34, Charlie34, Delta34, etc. They are all "out of service" until the brown stuff hits the whirly thing

Adelaide Fire, who should know who has been responded, don't pass on stop calls or sitreps from the first service to attend to any others. 

We can only pass on information if we receive it
If & when stops are received they are passed on to all attending agencies.

Will take it up with them as well mate as I do regularly.

But this sort of carry on still shits me as not all course dates suit.

Probably due to those particular groups/brigades having someone pull out at last minute! STC prob know nothing of it!

Still a bullshit system. Those people &/or brigades/groups should be passing names of those who cannot attend on to STC, so that they can then go to the next name on the list and get them on board.

Some of us have been waiting a very long time for particular courses.

Can anyone tell me what pager addresses are currently used, ie Brigade info, Brigade response, Region weather, Region maildrop, Group info, Group officer info etc etc.  Curious to know what 'paging groups/addresses' are used.

Cheers.

All of them.

Can add 'brigade officers' to the list as well.

Riptide; hardly sensitive information.

MFS: *CFSRES INC0045 30/04/12 11:10 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, SETTLERS RD/MARRIE RD CUMMINS,MAP:C/191 53,TG 14, == BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL == Alarm level updated to 2 == Alarm level updated to 3 :CLTA24 CMMN24P RH EDIL24 WANL24 : - CFS Lower Eyre Peninsula Group Officers Response

then


LEPG: CFSRES RESPOND GRASS FIRE SETTLERS ROAD /MARRIE RD 30/04/2012 11:22:34 PM - CFS Wanilla Response


then


LEPG: *CFSRES: (BRIGADE NAMES) PLEASE RESPOND TO INC 045 ASAP 30/04/2012 11:29:16 PM - CFS Wanilla Response

good plan...

The Country Fire Service is slowly dying.

MFS manage call, receive, dispatch so if there is a boundary call who's side of the road do you think the job will be!

SACAD is written heavily leaning towards MFS and because CFS did not and still does not fully understand the model and will now and into the future get bent over by MFS

Mate it seems to me you might not have much if an idea what you are talking about.

Firstly if you really believe that MFS comms cares who's area a job is in your quite mistaken. Jobs are placed against SACAD maps as accurately as possible based on information available and resources responded per the data input from mfs, ses and CFS. If there is then deemed to be a issue with the response plan that may put lives or property at risk it will be changed by the comms officer and appropriate paperwork lodged with notifications to regions if necessary.

Re the sytstem being written and leaning heavily towards MFS, once again you may have been misinformed. The software is not designed or written by any one agency, it was purchased from an external provider and then customized with input from all three agencIes concerned to meet there needs. Any issues with responses are not the fault of the "MFS", responsibility falls on those who have provided data.

I read a set of minutes from a recent CFS meeting where quite a few comments were of an almost slanderous nature towards what they called "Adelaide fire operators", as a person who is both a CFS vollunteer of twelve years, ex-CFS staff and currently employed by the MFS I was pretty disappointed to see all of this when I feel MFS Comcen does it's best to facilitate the needs of all three services operationally, with the training and the facilities provided and the data & response plans that have been entered by all agencies.

Perhaps you and your brigade should organize a visit to the Comcen to clear up any misconceptions. Feel free to organize it on a night when I'm there and I will assist with a tour.

Hopefully I have not misread or taken your comment the wrong way.

Alex

15-03-12 21:13:46 MFS: *CFSRES INC0097 15/03/12 21:13 RESPOND ASSIST RESIDENT, 14 SWIFT CT NORTHFIELD,MAP:ADL 94 N11,TG 182, ==RESIDENT UNABLE TO CHANGE BATTERY IN DETECTOR AND NEIGHBOURS WON'T HELP :OAK301 : - MFS Oakden OAK301
 

Problem? Always nice to do something positive for the local community. Good PR.

Total Fire Ban, closest four trucks per the beats programmed by CFS. Plus EMA area so it puts on a fifth truck which the system forces to be an MFS appliance.

If a single appliance is required for a specific role this can be done.

It's the idiots coming up on air for grass, house etc fires and listing a whole bunch of appliances that is being refused. This is where alarm levels are to be used.

Matt, simple answer is no.

If brigades ESZs and station preference lists are wrong then change them, don't try to change the way the system is run.

It's all relative.

SACAD seems to be working alright although i can pinpoint only 1 issue without blowing it out of proportion

1 and only issue: Brigades 10 or more minutes away being dispatched to an incident when there are closer appliances like just down the road or 3-5 minutes away  

Then Put in the paperwork to change the ESZ size/shape and station sequence.