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Country Fire Service / Re: Brigade SFEC
« on: June 17, 2013, 11:05:38 PM »
Couple of nice upgrades. Fairly happy.

Go from a rural to a rural/urban pumper (read 34p).
2 air sets up to 4.
Get a QRV.


Of course when the money actually exists to have these changes occur is yet to be seen.


Meanwhile however, two of our neighboring brigades have lost 2 air sets each, one of them has given up BA all together. Not sure if any appliances are going or being downgraded. By rights one of our neighbors would probably lose one, 2 trucks  for 30 odd jobs a year is a joke, especially when they can't crew one of them...

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SAAS / Re: SAAS State Duty Manager
« on: June 16, 2013, 08:23:34 AM »
The current State Duty Manager is Andrew Aubrey (my cousin).

Surely there are at least 4 plus at least 1 relief to cover 4 shifts?

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SAMFS / Re: 2013 Recruitment.
« on: June 13, 2013, 03:55:28 PM »
But the topic is SAMFS recruitment  :roll:

A lot of those people that are keen to get into the job don't just focus on Adelaide. Especially when Adelaide aint advertising...

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29-05-13 23:08:33   MFS: *CFSRES INC0102 29/05/13 23:07 RESPOND FIRE ALARM, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @UNLEY SHOPPING CENTRE #044/062 204 UNLEY RD UNLEY,MAP:ADL 130 J 6,TG 182, ==INPUT DESC - FIP NORTH WESTERN CNR -EXTERIOR :ADL2011 ADL202 GLO449 : - MFS Adelaide Station


Looks like Glen Osmond now running as the 9.

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Country Fire Service / Re: GOs/DGOs responding on every call
« on: May 22, 2013, 09:32:30 PM »
Trying to keep names out of it to avoid upsetting a few members on here who i know are from that group.

But we are talking about an urban fringe area, several brigades that are very good at crewing and getting out the door fast, all on each others doorstep. No concern here about prolonged response times.

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Country Fire Service / Re: GOs/DGOs responding on every call
« on: May 22, 2013, 04:28:39 PM »
A GO or DGO attending to an alarm activation is ok for those response areas where the primary brigade cannot crew an appliance. It's a step up from the Captain or Lieutenant attending in their work ute in thongs, stubbies and a t-shirt to reset the FIP.



Ahh yes... because we only attend fire alarms to 'reset the fip'.... sigh.

People pay monitoring fees to have fire trucks turn up, not a bloke in a car whether it be a CFS car or a private vehicle. If i owned a premises with a monitored alarm and the fire service were failing to attend id be asking the CFS some pretty serious questions.

And if a brigade cannot crew, then they should default to the next resource!!! Not just give up and get someone in a car to attend.

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Country Fire Service / GOs/DGOs responding on every call
« on: May 21, 2013, 07:37:59 PM »
Just wondering peoples thoughts.

Listening to a job on the scanner just now there is a DGO responding to a fire alarm. Arrives and assumes incident control, nothing showing. Oncoming appliances downgraded.

This group has a GO or DGO respond on almost every call no matter how minor [ie rubbish fires, fire alarms] and generally arrive first as the incident controller.

Now im happy for them to respond on road crash persons reported, confirmed structures, grassfires TFB days, HAZMAT, significant incidents etc, but in my opinion, not only is responding to EVERY job unnecessary per the CFS response schedule [SOP 2?], but it also deprives brigade officers of any real experience in running jobs and puts another vehicle on the road for no real reason.

So, is it a necessary resource at all jobs? Are brigade officers not trustworthy to run jobs?
 
Thoughts?

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10-05-13 15:17:44 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE ==RESPOND PRI TWO - CONTACT SAL321 :SAL329 : - MFS Salisbury SAL329

Found it interesting to responde two appliances priority 2 to this job.

15:03:29 10-05-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0090 10/05/13 15:03 RESPOND STRUCTURE DOMESTIC, ALARM LEVEL: 1, 1421 MAIN NORTH RD PARA HILLS WEST,MAP:ADL 83 F 1,TG 182, ==SMOKE FILLED HOUSE UNKNOWN SOURCE :OAK302 SAL321 : MFS Salisbury SAL321, MFS Salisbury Station, MFS Oakden OAK303

Missed that part.

1st alarm c-risk sent. 321, 302.
329 responded p2 for equipment.

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Lizbef.....




Nuff said.

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All Equipment discussion / Re: Dead reels
« on: April 23, 2013, 06:06:48 PM »
really?? what's the thinking behind a dead reel for 38mm hose? I can see the reasoning for a 25mm layflat dead reel (although remain a bit unconvinced myself, even after having used one during the Vic fires). I agree with Mr Ted that retaining 2 live reels is essential.

38mm canvas is standard gear used for plantation hoselays in conjunction with 25. Presumably thats the reasoning.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: April 18, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
Mmmmmmm rubbish fire is a single appliance... Nothing t do with no dep. maybe upgrading through comms would be more appropriate than paging "in house"....

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It wouldn't be a fire season if we didn't see at least one of these.  :-D

MFS: *CFSRES INC0130 05/04/13 23:52 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, : @BELAIR NATIONAL PARK UPPER STURT RD BELAIR,MAP:ADL 143 M16,TG 146, == BURNOFF IN NP JUMPED CONTAINMENT LINES. == CONTACT CLELND ON 124 FOR DETAILS == RESPOND GATE 20 :STRL24 UPST24


06-04-13 16:42:53   MFS: *CFSRES INC0070 06/04/13 16:42 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, PROPER BAY RD SLEAFORD,MAP:C/134 53,TG 014, == BURN OFF OUT OF CONTROL ASSIST IN SA WATER LAND :GRNP24 : - CFS Lower Eyre Peninsula Gp Officers re


.......... Yep.

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SACAD was suppossed to do a lot of things.

But how can SACAD control human intervention?
Fix the SOPs and then police them!!!!

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There are still no automatic defaults unfortunately.

Adelaide fire are charged with getting an acknowledgement, including phoning ALERTS, after that the onus is on the brigades to manage themselves.

 Some do it well....

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brigades dont care, and groups wont police it.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: March 27, 2013, 05:45:32 PM »
Love link paging (or whoever it is now??)


27-03-13 18:08:08   MOUNT LOFTY ROSTER 28 STROKE 3 STROKE 13 SHIFT 1 GREAME STROKE L TERRY STROKE B SHIFT 2 ROGER STROKE C JORN STROKE A WILL NOTIFY YOU OF CHANGES IN THE MORNING SIGNED DUTY OFFICER . - CFS Mt Lofty Tower Info

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If its p1 I'm guessing they wanted relatively nearby crews in a hurry.

Anyone know what's actually going on out there?

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Ammusing pager message.
« on: March 26, 2013, 02:34:31 PM »
26-03-13 14:48:08   Info only . Some potential for S/T 3 to be needed at Rockleigh later. NO RESPONSE REQUIRED. NO request made from Region. GO - CFS Strathalbyn Group Info


Love this sort of thing... Unnecessary for the sake of being unnecessary.

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12-03-13 13:28:34 All members note, as already discussed, AB 24 is our rural appliance. I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE PAGE FROM ADELAIDE FIRE SAYS. Capt - CFS McLaren Flat Info

And that is how you end up with your appliance being defaulted.

paging2 must have the wrong code assigned to aldinga.  paging1 showed up correct

At Sellicks, not far from Aldinga, we've been told by Kyeema Group to respond in what seems appropriate, as A/F have messed up before.

Mr Raven.

Do not confuse yourself or others.

Adelaide Fire has not "messed up".

Adelaide Fire has sent the response as per the SACAD data entered.

Please seek out accurate information before posting.

Thanks

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20:41:44 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :AIRDESK OHH421 SEA469 : MFS Seaford Response, MFS OHalloran Hill Station, MFS OHalloran Hill OHH421

20:43:53 08-03-13 MFS: *CFSRES INC0071 08/03/13 20:41 RESPOND GRASS FIRE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, LOT 266 TILLER DR SEAFORD,MAP:ADL 205 H 1,TG 182, ==GRASS FIRE IN RESERVE ADJ. NUMBER 15 ==ADJ 15 SCHOONER :CDN439 : MFS Christie Downs CDN439

Would've thought Seaford CFS'd be close....

Hmmmm...... a service that MIGHT turn up or a service that WILL turn up.

Good point, yes. But shouldn't they still be paged for a Grass Fire, in their area? Isn't that the main thing CFS do?

It's not their area. It's MFS area.

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Country Fire Service / Re: 12-13 New Appliance Program
« on: March 08, 2013, 05:19:32 AM »
Have a look at the SFEC documents on the CFS members only area.

Since you have 6x air sets & RCR, going by that you should be due to upgrade to one of two options;
1; 2x rural urban pumpers [24p/34p]
2; 1x rural urban pumper and 1 urban pumper

Also i believe if you are classed as an urban centre, you are eligible for an additional rural or light rural.



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Wonder what DPTI are doing...?


06-03-13 19:56:53   
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info


Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.

Looks like someone didnt get the message:

14:02:29   07-03-13   MFS: *CFSRES INC0052 07/03/13 14:01 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HEASLIP RD PENFIELD,MAP:ADL 40 L15,TG 102, ==MULCH SMOULDERING ON MEDIAN STRIP NEAR WOMMA RD == :AIRDESK ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth 331

Called in and requested a stop on themselves, and a response from MFS.

Like I said, looks like someone didnt get the message (VIRG!)

06-03-13 19:56:53   
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info

Yes. I can read. Was just explaining how/why the default.

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Wonder what DPTI are doing...?


06-03-13 19:56:53   
GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, AS OF NOW DALKEITH OR VIRGINIA WILL BE RESPONDING ON OUR OWN TO INCIDENTS AT WOMMA & HEASLIP RDS.
REGION 2 IS WORKING WITH DPTI TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, FROM DALKEITH CAPTAIN 2/2 - CFS Dalkeith Info
Probably going to get rid of all the bark chips.

Looks like someone didnt get the message:

14:02:29   07-03-13   MFS: *CFSRES INC0052 07/03/13 14:01 RESPOND RUBBISH OR WASTE, ALARM LEVEL: 1, HEASLIP RD PENFIELD,MAP:ADL 40 L15,TG 102, ==MULCH SMOULDERING ON MEDIAN STRIP NEAR WOMMA RD == :AIRDESK ELZ331 : - MFS Elizabeth 331

Called in and requested a stop on themselves, and a response from MFS.

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Country Fire Service / Re: 12-13 New Appliance Program
« on: March 07, 2013, 12:43:48 PM »
BigAl, are your SFECs getting an upgrade down that way with the new prescriptions?

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No need to post them all. They do it for every call they have.

Theyve been criticised previously for how ridiculous it is. If the brigade members and Groupies need to know they should monitor GRN voice.

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