Mmmmm, its been a nice morning with a couple of multi alarm fires in town. CFS managed a few change of quarters. Fun fun.
salisbury to pt adelaide.... definitely interesting...
i understand that they had a couple of decent jobs going... but isnt it amazing how undergunned and undercrewed the paid fire service is?
its fantastic that theres a bunch of vollies happy to help em out by changing quarters... well done to the lads.
for anyone wondering i believe there were 4 COQs;
salisbury to pt adelaide, tea tree gully to elizabeth (i think) , athelstone to glynde and burnside to glen osmond...
What about Salisbury MFS, did they go anywhere and if they did wouldnt it be better for Salisbury CFS to COQ Salisbury MFS?
I wonder why we are never called in to do COQ for Gawler.... :|
i dont think your brigade ever does COQ does it PF?
SAlisbury CFS did the change to Pt Adelaide.... presumably 32's appliances were either staying in area or covering somewhere else...
Dont think so.
Quote from: medevac on July 28, 2006, 10:04:41 PM
i dont think your brigade ever does COQ does it PF?
SAlisbury CFS did the change to Pt Adelaide.... presumably 32's appliances were either staying in area or covering somewhere else...
Both Salisbury MFS appliances were at the Port Adelaide fire.
I think also Salisbury CFS cover Salisbury, Pt Adelaide and Largs for COQ.
it's good we that each service helps each other.
Funny how people have been talking about MFS stations that might been built in CFS areas. Then MFS get a few jobs and we are called to help.
As Medvac said isn't it amazing how undergunned and undercrewed the paid fire service is?
anyone got photo's of the fires?
what a joke on MFS's part...a 24p protecting all that industry and housing......would have laughed if they got another joke...
Good thing that the CFS doesn't have any Urban Pumpers.
Why is it a joke? CFS 24P appliances back up MFS a lot and while they struggle to supply enough water to the Scanias they still do an okay job. Better than having no trucks at all protecting the area, dont you think?
Quote from: ath on July 29, 2006, 09:40:22 PM
Why is it a joke? CFS 24P appliances back up MFS a lot and while they struggle to supply enough water to the Scanias they still do an okay job. Better than having no trucks at all protecting the area, dont you think?
But they are the poor, retarded cousin of a proper pumper.
Last time I looked CFS had urban pumpers.....
Quote from: Toast on July 30, 2006, 01:23:05 AM
Quote from: ath on July 29, 2006, 09:40:22 PM
Why is it a joke? CFS 24P appliances back up MFS a lot and while they struggle to supply enough water to the Scanias they still do an okay job. Better than having no trucks at all protecting the area, dont you think?
But they are the poor, retarded cousin of a proper pumper.
Maybe if the CFS stopped using the excuse that the MFS are there you dont need a pumper there would be more of them :?
24P if you manage to convince CFS management they need pumpers over all the other brigades that have tried for the past 20 years good luck too you
Blinky, what the CFS class as a heavy urban pumper is actually a medium pumper... AFAIK the CFS doesn't have any REAL urban pumpers...
MMMMMMMMMM,Well all type 2 pumpers are a heavy pumper as is Naracoorte pumper...
No, the new pumpers the CFS are using (NSWFB Class 2) are only Medium Pumpers. That is according to their manufacturer.
CFS type 2 Pumpers are 750 gallons per minute (about 3000 litres/pm)
MFS Scanias are 1000 gallons per minute (about 3800 litres/pm)
Yep, then you look at pumpers like the NSWFB Class 5 pumper that runs a nice 5300l/min @ 1000kPa (high volume) and 400l/min @ 4000kPa (high pressure)
THAT, is a heavy pumper boys and girls.
I think you may find the Dennis at Mt Barker is classed as a Hvy (GP) Pumper.
What is the literage like? The only info I could find regarding the Dennis Sabre (not sure on the exact Pump that Barkers Dennis had) was that it had an output of between 2000 - 2750 Lpm.
Unless the pump had been changed since its service in the UK, I believe the following specs are on the mark. ~ which may faulter my comment on it being a Hvy GP Pumper..
900 gallons p/m (Low pres.)
+
65 gallons p/m (through the HP lines) at 30 bar (High Pres.)
What are the standards and classes differing Med. / Hvy. Pumpers?
i think it is classified, as a heavy pumper, in real terms, but it is the CFS's one and only :x
What's a pumper? (http://www.safirefighter.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=53&topic=204.0)
See skirkmoe's post about pumper classification...
900 UK imperial gallons is about 4000 litres - which would put Mt Barker pumper well and truly into the pumper category... My bad...
You mean the overseas ring in they got to make up the numbers? :wink:
Now, if we take away the one off efforts, like Barker/Stirling Pumpers, the CFS needs to get their act together?
Dont even get me started on CFS Pumpers and WHO gets them :x :x