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General Discussion => Country Fire Service => Topic started by: Scania_1 on October 23, 2006, 09:00:58 PM

Title: Cave Rescue
Post by: Scania_1 on October 23, 2006, 09:00:58 PM

A question for Bill. Are you guys at Naracoorte accreditted for cave rescue? Who conducted the training for it? Are there aby other emergency services/units that are trained?

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: 5271rescue on October 25, 2006, 01:05:51 PM

thats a good one I shall find out for you,we are about to do a major cave rescue training day with saas/sapol and DEH next month...

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: Camo on October 25, 2006, 03:00:02 PM

They dont need accreditation as they are already CAVEMEN!

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: 5271rescue on October 25, 2006, 07:14:26 PM

The Naracoorte brigade has members who are trained in rope rescue,a cave rescue team is guided by a member of the parks team  the rescue technically comes under the control of parks. So no we are not accredited in cave rescue on rope rescue..

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 25, 2006, 10:22:10 PM

There are SES units around the place classed as " Underground Rescue "... - Are there any near you Bill ?

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 25, 2006, 10:29:55 PM

The SES Units down this way do cliff rescues and other vertical rescue situations not underground rescues although i think that SAPOL might do underwater rescues down here im not sure  :|

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: 5271rescue on October 26, 2006, 08:53:23 AM

as far as I know no there are no SES underground units down this way but parks do have a good team who know what to do...May be cfs will have to look at expanding the rescue course so as it covers cave and trench rescue...

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: CFS_Firey on October 26, 2006, 01:24:05 PM

Wouldn't cave rescue have to be a different course, not just an expanded RR course?

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: 5271rescue on October 26, 2006, 01:36:20 PM

Yes I suppose it would but apart from SES/mfs who else does cave or trench rescue? so should there be such a course???

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: CFS_Firey on October 26, 2006, 01:45:05 PM

How does 'cave rescue' differ from vertical and confined space rescue?

I don't think the CFS runs rope rescue courses anyway - they are run by other trainers like Fire and rescue Australia...

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: oz fire on October 26, 2006, 02:42:15 PM

Technically - cave resuce is classified as a confioned space rescue. IN SA - SAPOL STAR and SES (Noarlunga and Whyalla) have trained, accredited and equiped teams for this. I believe there are also limited trained persons within MFS.

As we all know thought, there are many different style of caves - open, sink holes, verticle, horizontel and then those filled with H2O.

Guss in first instance a verticle team from SES, SAPOL or CFS could begin, however if in a hazardous environment or confined then a specialist team would be required.

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: TillerMan on October 26, 2006, 03:38:52 PM

Burnside CFS have been trained by a private company in confined space rescue and atmospheric monitoring and have a large array of specialised equipment on both the hazmat appliance and pumper including standard Hazmat, RCR, B.A equipment as well as atmospheric monitoring equipment, specialist confined space B.A gear and other lowering/lifting gear and even just purchased an electric PPV for venting confined spaces.

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 26, 2006, 03:50:11 PM

Who trained them? Also, is it part of a Nat. Accred. package?

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: TillerMan on October 26, 2006, 03:56:31 PM

Not sure, i will find out for you.

Title: Re: Cave Rescue
Post by: RescueHazmat on October 26, 2006, 04:11:37 PM

Thanks mate.