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General Discussion => SA Firefighter General => Topic started by: Ryan on October 26, 2006, 06:57:42 PM

Title: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Ryan on October 26, 2006, 06:57:42 PM
Just heard on news flash that Euan Ferguson has needed high level police to guard him in court as he recieved death threats from family of those killed in Eyere Peninsula fires.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: CFS_Firey on October 26, 2006, 07:04:15 PM
Geez, nasty! :|
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: bittenyakka on October 26, 2006, 08:19:23 PM
if that is true it is way to harsh
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 26, 2006, 08:22:59 PM
A mate of mine who i chat to on Yahoo messenger said that our CEO has bodyguards now as well but im not sure if thats just for the duration of the court proceedings or full time  :|
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Ryan on October 26, 2006, 08:37:34 PM
yeah thats what the high level police would be.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: 5271rescue on October 27, 2006, 08:25:49 AM
well firstly,I would like to place on record my full support for EUAN he is a great guy but above all is a CEO that is full of support to the VOLUNTEERS. I would also like to say that these attacks on him really have to make you sit up and wounder why are we doing this job and do the community really support our work??. I would hate to see history repeat itself and by that I mean after every big fire that SA has had the poor CEO is given the flick.

We should all show our support for Euan and I feel that his family will also need the support of the fire service family over this attack on him and the threats that have been made against him. This is very un AUSTRALIAN of people to attack those that came to there hour of need.......

Now where did I put that baseball bat.......
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Darius on October 27, 2006, 08:38:14 AM

jeeze do you believe everything you read in the paper? (especially reporting about the eyre peninsula bushfire inquiry which has been proven to be sensationalist and wrong many times).  However even if true, threatening to kill someone is a criminal offence (I believe) so why not just let the police deal with it.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: 5271rescue on October 27, 2006, 09:19:52 AM
I agree let the police take care of it.......But it is still not right .....
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: CaptCom on October 27, 2006, 10:52:17 AM
Unfortunately, it is true and there have been other threats on other people involved...

I won't make too many comments but I do know the full and true story...the police are onto it and yes, he does have some protection at present.

He is doing the best the process will allow...Darius at least knows what it's like in the coronial, he came and saw me on the stand...it's not easy..even for some like Euan..

I agree with Rescue...don't be afraid to show him our support...if some of you can, go and sit in the gallery and show your support that way..it makes a big difference.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Crankster 34 on October 27, 2006, 01:20:03 PM
I agree, full support for the boss, he actually does try and do what's right for the community and the vollies.

If you do go to court I don't suggest you hassle those Starries too much that he has with him, they might look innocent enough but get them fired up and they could snap you like a twig   :-o
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: CaptCom on October 27, 2006, 01:40:35 PM
Yeah, don't be stupid enough to make a joke similar to bombs on planes...you may find them practising their headlocks on you...and there are stairs to be thrown down...  :evil:
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 27, 2006, 01:42:03 PM
All hail our mighty boss Euan Ferguson.... if i had the money for a trip up to Adelaide i'd definately go to court and sit through the proceedings to show the boss my support and loyality as a CFS Volunteer  :-D
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2006, 06:42:07 PM
I heard a rumour that Euan had been replaced by Andrew Lawson a while back, but seems thaty was false.

Has the Crankster had experience pissing off Starries? :-P
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Pipster on October 27, 2006, 07:27:28 PM
Don't know about crankster, but I have worked with them, in both real life scenarios, as well as training (I got to play both the victim, and the bad guy in various scenarios)....not good people to annoy.......!

Pip
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2006, 07:48:38 PM
Do they train with live ammunition?
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: bajdas on October 27, 2006, 08:14:42 PM
I do not understand why people have to blaim someone else for mis-fortune rather than acknowledge that partially it is everyone's fault...but would prefer to blaim the big-pin of the organisation.

Seems to happen a lot when a business goes bust..Blame the big-pin.

But then (for good or bad reasons) the CEO of an organisation is ultimately responsible for everything that happens within the organisation.

Hopefully the Police will track down & prosecute the offenders.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Scania_1 on October 27, 2006, 08:38:58 PM
What annoys me is when you hear of people not knowing what to do in a bushfire and not knowing how to protect yourself. How hard is it for people to pick up a phone and find out or visit your local CFS/MFS regional office or fire station??
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 27, 2006, 09:37:09 PM
Quote from: ath on October 27, 2006, 08:38:58 PM
What annoys me is when you hear of people not knowing what to do in a bushfire and not knowing how to protect yourself. How hard is it for people to pick up a phone and find out or visit your local CFS/MFS regional office or fire station??

Its not that hard ath all people have gotta do is ring the CFS hotline or the local council bushfire prevention rep to visit and help them put together a bushfire plan that so easy a monkey could follow it

While living at home i even seeked advice about getting a fire hose installed and attached to my dads davey fire fighting pump now we have one standing right next to it ready for use

Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Ryan on October 27, 2006, 11:44:15 PM
Simply put, its the "It wont happen to me" mentality.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Tone7 on October 28, 2006, 12:25:16 AM
Does this mean that local CFS brigades are at risk?

Personally i have had a few nasty comments in the community one coz i was wearing my CFS Shirt....

I know our lovely regional staff are now in a fish bowl :cry:
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Camo on October 28, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
Maybe we should disband the CFS on the west coast.  Then see how quickly thier attitudes change when the next fire comes along!!! :x
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Pipster on October 28, 2006, 09:54:39 AM
And those who are making all the noise criticising CFS, will then blame CFS for leaving!!!

Pip
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: 5271rescue on October 28, 2006, 02:14:55 PM
as A ex CFA member,I can tell you that what is going on in court and the media is the same as what we went through,in time it will pass there will be lots of work to do by all..but in time the CFS will stand tall and we as firefighters will still answer the call.. Those that have attacked our actions will know the truth. As I said at a VFBA meeting not long ago wait till the book or movie comes out then the public will/see what is done.....
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 28, 2006, 03:34:53 PM
Ummmm Blinky  :| i think there is a new book out which highlights the heroism,sacrifice as well as other factors surrounding some of Australia's great fires like Black Thursday & Black Friday

The title of this book is titled BURN as i put one on layby last week while in k-mart due to it being on special for $22.75 i'll reveal abit more about the book once i've read it cause its my payweek this week coming  :wink:
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Scania_1 on October 28, 2006, 08:41:49 PM
is this the book you are talking about rob
Burn
Author: Collins Paul

Tells powerful and moving personal stories of loss and survival of bushfires in Australia since European settlement. Collins challenges many of the accepted environmental practices regarding bushfire control.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Robert-Robert34 on October 28, 2006, 08:49:51 PM
Yup thats the one ath i've got it on layby and only owe $20.50 so im gonna pay it this Thursday coming and get the book off layby then read it  :-D :wink:
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: fire03rescue on October 29, 2006, 08:32:36 AM
Unfortunately people want to blame someone, sometimes in life filtered happens.
People have the attitude its not my fault the fire happened and that I was not ready.
I feel for Euan and the CFS on the West Coast. I also understand the anger from some of the public.
Lets hope the we all learn from this terrible day.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Ryan on October 29, 2006, 09:47:29 AM
Well it appears that this has been the "big fire" weve been waiting for.
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: CaptCom on October 30, 2006, 07:33:15 AM
Quote from: fire03rescue on October 29, 2006, 08:32:36 AM
Unfortunately people want to blame someone, sometimes in life s hit happens.
People have the attitude its not my fault the fire happened and that I was not ready.
I feel for Euan and the CFS on the West Coast. I also understand the anger from some of the public.
Lets hope the we all learn from this terrible day.

Unfortunately, too many just expect CFS to learn....there are many that haven't done any preparation...they just have unreal expectations..as I keep telling those who wish to lay blame...everyone did the best they could, we didn't start the fire and we can't control the weather when it wants to play nasty like that... :x
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: 5271rescue on October 31, 2006, 06:52:26 PM
each summer we do the same story to the public this year could be it have you done your clean up yet???? Take a look around the hills and parts of the south east and you know what the public have done jackshit and they expect us to go in and protect their homes..Please time the local fire prevention officer in the council did there job and booked people......
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: CaptCom on November 01, 2006, 07:10:42 AM
Maybe you're right Bill....the message should change from it's time to HAVE YOU DONE IT YET??  the message is too nice and relies on people having a conscience...oh, hang on, they pay their EMS levy...that gives them the right to do nothing but expect us to be superheroes...how could I forget that.. :evil:
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Camo on November 02, 2006, 12:04:25 PM
Maybe some sort of advertising campaign needs to be launched that is a little on the nasty side?

Show a picture of a house covered with leaves and scheiße and a driveway that isnt accessible and then say if you want your house to survive this summer do something about it! Contact your local CFS..blah blah blah

This nice approach doesnt work.  some people only react to nasty comments?
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Ryan on November 02, 2006, 02:22:58 PM
get chopper to do it not a washe dup country music singer, cant you just imagine.

"g'day australia chopper here how the filtered are ya, .  Is your house filtered covered in leaves and tree's filtered everywhere?  If it is youre a filtered idiot and chopper doesnt like filtered idiots.  Ill come down and smash ya hard.  Alternatively you could filtered ring ya local fire station and get them to filtered giva ya some advice otherwise when there is a fire they'll filtered leave it to burn.  So come on AUstralia, be a man and clean up ya filtered house and have a bushfire action plan, and filtered use it. 

(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/03/09/chopper_narrowweb__300x447,0.jpg)


:roll:
(appologies for the language but ya gotta use it to emphasise chopper)
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: Camo on November 02, 2006, 10:09:26 PM
Thats just legendary....send it to the printers!
Title: Re: Fergy wanted dead
Post by: 5271rescue on November 04, 2006, 05:09:29 AM
Yes bring in chopper what a man.....