More UFU crap

[mack]

just noticed the pages came from differant computers... might explain it, im guessing one wasnt set on 24hr

it is 00:08:14, 8 mins past midnight

im talking about the date/time stamp in the pager itself, thats what i was reading.

[chook]

The article needs to be read in conjunction with the UFU submission to the F&ES review. Remember the bits about separate identities, look after the vollies etc?
Welcome to SA Fire & Rescue Service!
Guys this is not an attack on the crews, its an attack on the management team, SAFECOM & indirectly the minister. This is because they can see the beginnings of an intergrated tri service, rather than the one all encompassing service they were hoping for! What they want is to do it all (except for the stuff that takes lots of man power & time)And with CFS doing rural fire fighting & SES doing storm & flood non glory work, SAF&RS members will be UFU, the power of the union increases & the vollie associations decreases. Once the volunteers are subdued then they will start on the retained crews trying to justify full timers in their positions. Why? - easy more full time members, means more union dues (the union has more money to play with) and everyones happy!
Well done UFU going public with something that should have been kept internal, but remember the next time that your members have a job that goes sour - the media will remember your comments & so will the property owners - I don't think they will be saying "oh well you did your best".
Interestingly SAFECOM spoke for both service chiefs - more intergration?
Anyway enough of my rant
cheers

[Sarge]

Well all I can say is the UFU should get back in it's box, The Wakefield Plains group were commended on how the incident was run, there was ample resources Hazmat was Pt Wakefield, Nuriootpa, Dalkeith & of course Burnside (the ones I can recall)as for BA It seemed as though the whole region was there, the only problem I'm aware of was that the sole remaining BA brigade in wakefield plains grp who weren't responded were on standby for any other incidents that may have cropped up in the area due to all other BA brigades within the area were at Pt Wakefield weren't actually told that they were on standby how ever this was addressed internally by the group simple case is MFS obviously wasn't required other wise they would have been called.

[rescue5271]

Dont Know how the UFU can say there where hazmat crews close by as if they where called on,the MFS would have to call CFS to MANN mfs city stations...I think the UFU are trying to stir the pot and have ago at anyone...From what I have read and seen and those i have spoken to the brigade and group did a great job if there is this so called cover up then why has the MFS and CFS chief not spoken up and why is it that UFU have taken this action?? may be the UFU is trying to push for more staff for new stations so they attack anyone...So UFU you know what you can do .......

[safireservice]

Similarly qualified MFS crews were stationed much closer – at Salisbury, Elizabeth, Angle Vale, Prospect and Port Adelaide – but were not called, the union claims.

Didnt know there was a MFS station at Angle Vale.
What gets me is why wait a whole year if it was such an important issue?

[chook]

Well an elections not close - have a feeling things are happening at SAFECOM & the UFU has got hold of it
There has been a few comings and goings at SAFECOM HQ and hardly a word out of ours.
Otherwise it doesn't make sense, unless there are union elections due?
cheers

[uniden]

Interesting that the union forget to mention the close by MFS country stations too. Like Kadina etc. Who are a lot closer than Prospect...

[safireservice]

Interesting that the union forget to mention the close by MFS country stations too. Like Kadina etc. Who are a lot closer than Prospect...

You know the union think of the retained stations like CFS, not much.

[chook]

Yep your right there!

[uniden]

They are happy to take the union dues from retained firies though. Funny that.

[Sarge]

Interesting that the union forget to mention the close by MFS country stations too. Like Kadina etc. Who are a lot closer than Prospect...

Not to mention Kapunda & Tanunda

[Sarge]

Similarly qualified MFS crews were stationed much closer – at Salisbury, Elizabeth, Angle Vale, Prospect and Port Adelaide – but were not called, the union claims.

Didnt know there was a MFS station at Angle Vale.
What gets me is why wait a whole year if it was such an important issue?

Well Dalkeith went (oh hang on they would be CFS Buggar)

[rescue5271]

Time the VFBA stepped in and said something....

[pete]

The VFBA,who are they?

[Sarge]

Time the VFBA stepped in and said something....

Right  

[rescue5271]

So i wounder when was the last time some of those who work in the UFU office where ever at a fire??? or where they ever firefighters..... who are the VFBA well they are still out there working some where may be they have not got onto this issue yet......

[JC]

Bill Jamieson the president of the ufu was an ex SO at Christies.

[CFS_Firey]

who are the VFBA well they are still out there working some where may be they have not got onto this issue yet......

I think you'll find its the CFSVA that are out there somewhere, not the VFBA...

[safireservice]

Bill Jamieson the president of the ufu was an ex SO at Christies.

So is that why he's got it in for your lot then?

[boredmatrix]

Bill Jamieson the president of the ufu was an ex SO at Christies.

I may be taking this out of context - but with the exception of a union organisations General Secretary and possibly Industrial Officer - aren't the executive of any union required to be current "operational" (sic) staff?

[JC]

Bill Jamieson the president of the ufu was an ex SO at Christies.

So is that why he's got it in for your lot then?

Not there anymore, but he has been hanging s*$t on the whole Noarlunga/Mawson group since the i started CFS back in 1993. Maybe he's just shitty because he didn't make it as far up the ranks as a relative of his did.

Bill Jamieson the president of the ufu was an ex SO at Christies.

I may be taking this out of context - but with the exception of a union organisations General Secretary and possibly Industrial Officer - aren't the executive of any union required to be current "operational" (sic) staff?

He maybe still operational??? fairly sure he's not at CD anymore. Good point though.

[bajdas]

Bill Jamieson the president of the ufu was an ex SO at Christies.

Also long term councillor for Onkaparinga Council

[pumprescue]

Bill is still operational, he is a District Officer now, you can hear him respond as the safety officer sometimes.

[SA Firey]

He is still operational, and hasnt been at Christies for quite a while.However he certainly has been using the media to their advantage

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