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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #150 on: June 24, 2006, 07:11:48 PM »
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This is just plain sloppy work by them 


dont be too hasty mate, just as likely to be SAPOLs fault... might be worth Happy Valley making a couple of phone calls and lodging a greivance form.... but on the other hand its MFS area.

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #151 on: June 24, 2006, 07:37:09 PM »
better still listen to a GRN scanner and if its in your area call it in,I here a few brigades south od the city do that????

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #152 on: June 24, 2006, 07:54:12 PM »
i wouldnt go doing that... maybe go out to the adress (if your that hardcore) confirm that it is there, then call it in...

if you have misheard it, there is always the possibility of getting yourself in the scheiße for an MFA or what have you... as call centres have ability to get CLI.

i thought about doing this yesterday, when i saw ambos page to a call in our area, heard them on scanner, saw ambulance and two cop cars go flying past... so i went and took a look, by the time i got there the car was gone, around 5 mins later.... now, if i had gone and called it in, then i would have looked like a filtered and wasted my brigades time... lol. i mean sure, SAPOL or SAAS should have called fire service upon reciept of the call by them, but you know what im getting at...

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #153 on: June 25, 2006, 02:56:32 PM »
That is true,but the only soloution is a independent call center that is able to take the call and dispatch all services...Yes it does happen .....

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #154 on: June 25, 2006, 06:20:32 PM »
The CFS are as bad, in terms of OIC's turning out other appliances at times. Ive seen/heard numerous occasions where brigade pride has taken precedence over getting appropriate resources to the scene at the earliest convenience.

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #155 on: June 25, 2006, 06:23:21 PM »
^^hear hear
not to mention other services

was at a job once (flooding/salvage) where we required the SES due to the fact they carruy a wet/dry vac, and our group base didnt wanty to turn them out, querying why we couldnt finish the job ourselves.... took a while but we finally got them to play ball.

as you said toast, all comes back to pride.

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #156 on: June 25, 2006, 11:21:05 PM »
Its simple.. If your group base / station will not action the Request of the I/C  .. go over them.....  " State Headquarters..."

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #157 on: June 25, 2006, 11:23:34 PM »
I'm also talking about the IC themselves on the fireground...

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #158 on: June 25, 2006, 11:27:05 PM »
Its simple.. If your group base / station will not action the Request of the I/C  .. go over them.....  " State Headquarters..."

i fully agree strike, and its exaclt what i would do if i ever had issues again...

but can you imagine the titty tantrums that would occur afterwards...?

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #159 on: June 25, 2006, 11:49:45 PM »
Yea, thats it.. Altho you would have a fairly strong case if they refused your request for no justified reason.


If it happens you give your mate striker a call and he will give them an ear bashing :D

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #160 on: June 25, 2006, 11:55:31 PM »
hahahahaha roger that

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #161 on: June 26, 2006, 12:43:20 AM »
*cough* that was just "Roger" wasn't it? we all imagined that "that" at the end ;)

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #162 on: June 26, 2006, 08:23:17 PM »
:wink:

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #163 on: June 30, 2006, 04:03:10 PM »
Lately I have noticed 'what I thought' was reasonably quick passing of incident information between the different Comcens. But something might have gone wrong....

15:07:44 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:05,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STH OF KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS IN ATT,75829*CFSRES:

15:06:14 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:04,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MAIN RD STH KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS ON SCENE,2348*CFSRES:

15:05:55 30-06-06 KAPD: RESPOND KAPUNDA STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES

15:01:12 30-06-06 SHQ: CFSRES KAPUNDA RESPOND MVA THIELE HWY, KAPUNDA - NEAR THE BRIDGE < 30/06/2006 15:01:00

14:35:25 30-06-06 BV84 Cat2 Thiele Hwy, Kapunda POLICE REQUIRED
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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #164 on: June 30, 2006, 11:13:03 PM »
Yeah we had a job the other night and there was a 15 minute difference between SAAS and us getting called, the bloke had absconded from the scene but the car was leaking LPG???
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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #165 on: July 01, 2006, 10:18:10 PM »
More often than not in our response area we only hear about vehicle accidents that SAAS attend when one of our members frives past and sees them there and we respond ourselves

Does fire cover and stabilisation mean nothing to these people.
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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #166 on: July 01, 2006, 10:25:10 PM »
What brigade are you from?


Respond yourself, did you buy some flashing lights to stick on the roof of your car and make siren noises "whee aw whee aw wheeaw woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wooo wooo woo woo wee wee wiouw"  :roll: :-P

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #167 on: July 02, 2006, 08:42:08 AM »
Lately I have noticed 'what I thought' was reasonably quick passing of incident information between the different Comcens. But something might have gone wrong....

15:07:44 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:05,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,STH OF KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS IN ATT,75829*CFSRES:

15:06:14 30-06-06 MFS: RESPOND Vehicle Accident 30/06/06 15:04,KAPUNDA DISTRICT TOWN,KAPUNDA DISTRICT, MAP 0 0 0 ,,MAIN RD STH KAPUNDA NEAR BRIDGE SAAS ON SCENE,2348*CFSRES:

15:05:55 30-06-06 KAPD: RESPOND KAPUNDA STATION SIREN MANUALLY ACTIVATED CFSRES

15:01:12 30-06-06 SHQ: CFSRES KAPUNDA RESPOND MVA THIELE HWY, KAPUNDA - NEAR THE BRIDGE < 30/06/2006 15:01:00

14:35:25 30-06-06 BV84 Cat2 Thiele Hwy, Kapunda POLICE REQUIRED

unfortunately the MFS system isnt capable of handling road names for all areas of the state... at this stage, so more than likely the info was passed on via landline.

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #168 on: July 02, 2006, 09:57:17 AM »
can't the just type in the name??? or is there gear too old to do that..............

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #169 on: July 02, 2006, 10:33:48 AM »
my understanding is that the street name and suburb/town has to verify in the system or it either wont work or just wont send appropriate resources...

from what i understand it is being worked on. this is why we contacntly see;
RESPOND RCR; KAPUNDA TOWN, KAPUNDA
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RESPOND RCR; MEADOWS CFS, MEADOWS

etc etc

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #170 on: July 02, 2006, 10:38:14 AM »
I see,now I know when we get paged from the MFS that it has no info .....

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #171 on: July 02, 2006, 10:41:00 AM »
yeh, usually theyll try to put some extra info in the "otes" part of the msg.

saw Naracoorte get paged by MFS the other day, thought it had the correct street name and suburb in the right place???

MFS arent meant paging you guys (r5) anyway.

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #172 on: July 02, 2006, 10:46:34 AM »
It was 000 call and yep it had the correct information,for once.

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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #173 on: July 02, 2006, 11:00:11 AM »
What brigade are you from?


Respond yourself, did you buy some flashing lights to stick on the roof of your car and make siren noises "whee aw whee aw wheeaw woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wooo wooo woo woo wee wee wiouw"  :roll: :-P

I dont think thats wise PF the only way you can respond to an RCR in your own vehicle is if you happen to come across a Car Accident before SAAS,SACFS or SAPOL know about it  :-)
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Re: SAAS Responding Other Services..
« Reply #174 on: July 02, 2006, 12:50:15 PM »
you can do whatever you like in a nufty brigade  :wink: