Author Topic: Money verses Safety (Read 14341 times)

pete · « **on:** May 07, 2006, 01:21:59 PM »

I may ruffel a few feathers at headquaters but i reckon the new Isuzu 4x4 twin cabs are a dangerous vehicle.They are very high in regards to access in and out for older firefighters and also could roll over easier than other models of 4x4 on the market.

Toast · « **Reply #1 on:** May 07, 2006, 02:41:11 PM »

Im pretty sure we could conduct a Rope Rescue operation out of the cab, to the ground.

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #2 on:** May 07, 2006, 03:05:02 PM »

It's not that bad we've had ours on some steep sideways inclines and was like any other appliance, they're not much different than the earlier gen isuzu 4x4's as far as handling goes?? But each to their own opinions i suppose.

probie_boy · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2006, 12:02:08 PM »

FYI, safety in the new trucks is also being discussed in another thread on this forum

medevac · « **Reply #4 on:** May 08, 2006, 07:20:50 PM »

hmmm i take it we are all motor vehicle engineers??? not that i have any idea either...

PF_ · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2006, 09:31:23 PM »

Cant those london double decker buses go over 40degree's before they tip over?

probie_boy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2006, 09:37:15 AM »

yeah, I think so. Too late to find out now though, they got rid of them!

rescue5271 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2006, 08:20:00 PM »

Yes they are high,it gets back to training and that those driving the beast drive to the conditions of the time..

oz fire · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2006, 11:27:07 AM »

Yes they are high - but I'm sure they were engineered accordingly and that they have gone through the appropriate T & D phases!

Hard to keep everyone happy all of the time - when general purpose appliances are produced.

Haven't heard to many old people complain about getting in - usually it's the younger fitter ones who have nothing better to do than complain - the older ones seam to 'get on with the job'

probie_boy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2006, 02:23:20 PM »

hey, I'm enjoying my complaining!

Mike · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2006, 02:40:51 PM »

Quote from: oz fire on May 17, 2006, 11:27:07 AM

Yes they are high - but I'm sure they were engineered accordingly and that they have gone through the appropriate T & D phases!

Hard to keep everyone happy all of the time - when general purpose appliances are produced.

Haven't heard to many old people complain about getting in - usually it's the younger fitter ones who have nothing better to do than complain - the older ones seam to 'get on with the job'

stereo typing isnt it???
They are nice trucks.... but its possible to "generalise" tooo much!

pete · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2006, 08:46:32 PM »

On the good side of things the fire service got more vehicles for their money.

rescue5271 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2006, 09:40:39 PM »

Really?

?

probie_boy · « **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2006, 11:04:36 AM »

(in best Dr Evil voice) really!

PF_ · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2006, 11:09:54 AM »

Is it true CFS are phasing out 14, 24, 24P in favour of having standardised appliances as 34 and 34P?

probie_boy · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2006, 12:28:52 PM »

24 and 24p's yes. not sure about 14's though. They're pretty important in their own way

PF_ · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2006, 04:30:02 PM »

Yeah, hadnt heard anything about the 14.

probie_boy · « **Reply #17 on:** May 19, 2006, 01:25:19 PM »

then why'd ya say it assclown???
(more trashtalk for our showdown!)

PF_ · « **Reply #18 on:** May 19, 2006, 02:09:05 PM »

me was assumin dat it included the 14 too and said it so so someone clear it up, cause IM the man, and the peoples poster!

Alan (Big Al) · « **Reply #19 on:** May 19, 2006, 03:34:33 PM »

U two need your heads banged together

PF_ · « **Reply #20 on:** May 19, 2006, 05:41:12 PM »

Theyre will be lots of head banging, mostly probies!

(how long is this gonna go on, haha)

probie_boy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2006, 12:14:15 PM »

biatch, you've got amnesia and dillusion, and I ain't even slugged ya yet. Wait till the battle PF, I'll make you tap out faster than mr bojangles on speed!

PF_ · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2006, 06:28:45 PM »

Ill knock you out faster than Wendell Sailor got knocked of rugby from spped or E or whatever the filtered he used! The only speed on the figt will be my hands, see if you can spot them hitting you.

Robert-Robert34 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2006, 07:51:52 PM »

Why phase out CFS 14 QAV appliances to make way for 34 & 34P's remember the 14 QAV's are best suited for Adelaide Hills and open flat farming areas where access is limited during a fire

I admit that 34's and 34P's carry alot more water but there are certain limitations as to access in hard to get areas as well as certain problems that could arise

A few years ago my brigade was called out to a burn off which had gotten out of hand being that there was no other way to get to it we had to cut fences but this resulted in barbed wire disabling our appliance because it got entangled around the wheel and tail shafts

PF_ · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2006, 07:56:47 PM »

There is no talk of getting rid of 14's as far as I know. But I have heard 24 and 24P's are going.

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