SA Firefighter

Darius - does it matter? It costs

Um, no it doesn't...  There is no cost associated with sending messages.

The cost is per pager registered on the network - the services pay an annual fee for each pager whether it receives any messages or not.

This is why CFS had a push on completing pager audits not so long ago so that all "missing" pagers were deregistered, reducing the overall cost.

The following link is the AFAC position on evacuations and other Community Safety issues.  This has been adopted by fire services Australia-wide...

http://www.afac.com.au/awsv2/publications/documents/PositionPaperonBushfiresandCommunitySafety.pdf

11:08:48   19-10-07   PLS PH HUNG UP

Interesting name...

21:59:51   25-09-07   MBKR RESPOND TO FIRE ALARM ADELAIDE HILLS, HOMEMAKER LOT 221 DUTTON RD, MT BARKER *CFSRES:, FIP ALARM *WFAM*, 25/09/2007 21:58:54 CFS Mount Barker Response


22:16:47   25-09-07   MFS: INC # 89 - 25/09/07 22:16,RESPOND COMMERCIAL FIRE,DADDOW RD,MT BARKER, MAP 172 Q 5 ,,FLAMES SEEN FROM HARVEY NORMAN,1279 1268*CFSRES: CFS Mount Barker Response


Thats why a good response to fixed alarm is a must.

Who says there wasn't a good response to the fixed alarm?

I was listening to the scanner at the time and from the sounds of it they had two appliances on scene at the rear of the premises.  They may not have been in view of the caller who reported the flame, but it sounded like they were still on scene dealing with the situation.

Really shits me when people give other brigades a bad name by not getting their facts straight and casting aspersions on their response!

And no, I'm not from the brigade, I just know how pissed I'd be if the same thing was said about my brigade.

Im not saying Kapunda SES is the Best i have no idea how you got that perception.

The way that you continually rubbish your neighbouring emergency services gives the impresion that you consider yourselves to be far superior to them.

You give the impression that you prefer to bitch about them in public, rather than assist to resolve the issues.

To me, this is highly unprofessional behaviour...

also 641 thats along way out of there area about 15kms out of there area and they only had two personel plus the cfs never made it out the door due to no driver   

Grasshopper - some advice.  Don't go casting aspersions on the capabilities of your fellow Emergency Services that you work closely with on a public forum.  It will come back and bite you in the arse.

Kapunda is not big enough to avoid the ruckus you are causing...

If you ever stuff up, be prepared to be treated equally if not worse than the way you are treating your coworkers.

The way you have been carrying on like a pork chop has certainly lowered my perception of Kapunda SES as a professional organisation...

... a herd of cows with guns with a vendetta against ...

Sounds like Croatia is copping it as well...

http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Firefighters-die-battling-Croatian-fire/2007/08/31/1188067317169.html

Five firefighters died and 14 were injured on Thursday evening as they were encircled by a forest fire on Croatia's central island of Kornati, the state-run news agency HINA and other local media reported.

Police in the nearby city of Sibenik only confirmed that 14 firefighters were injured at the island of Kornat and there was no immediate official confirmation of the deaths, which were reported by HINA, the state-run Croatian television and two other TV channels.

Zeljko Sosa, a local firefighting official, said the wind apparently suddenly changed its course, spreading the fire that then trapped the firefighters inside the firing circle.

Private TV RTL said all five dead were members of the local volunteer firefighting brigade and that they were in their 20s.

Among the 14 injured, four are in a life-threatening condition, said a doctor on duty in the clinic in Zadar, a city on the coast across from Kornat where most of the injured are being treated. He spoke on customary condition of anonymity.

Prime Minister Ivo Sanader was heading to Zadar to visit those injured overnight, the government said in a statement.

The fire was still raging on the island, which has only hundreds of residents.

Croatia has battled a record number of fires this summer, but mostly only in forests.

Before Thursday's incident at Kornat, a firefighter who died on Wednesday while putting down the fire on another island was the only casualty of those fires.

i understand that as a captain you have to make decissions that can affect the outcome of peoples lives but can i ask how often do you have mulitple services telling you to hurry up or complainig that it took 10mins extra to be paged or telling you how to do your job i understand that at times you have to say no to your BA crews going in or what ever but as a volunteer firefighter how often do you get to an mva and get to decide who lives and who dies im pretty sure i know the answer i know that no matter what service your in it gets stressful but as an ambulance officer i am responsible for the protection of life and prefention of futher harm as an ambulance officer i dont need crews complaining that we are going slow or that they had to wait an extra 10mins before they got paged but reflect on your time as an ambo how often did this happen to you and now as a captain how often do you complain. complaining to the crews there isnt going to help you need to follow the chain. i am getting used to other services complaining and i love listening to it and laughing PIP this was not aimed at you or any paticular service all i was trying to get accross is that fact that VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE OFFICERS are under a lot of presure at jobs and dont need the extra presure put on them by other services infact my team are looking in to being trained in basic princepls or RCR so they know what the RCR crew are able to do and mabye make it a bit quicker between arriveing and getting the RCR crews working

That's totally harsh and uncalled for.

You are obviously removed from all reality of situations.

How about the pressure that Volunteer Ambulance Officers put on Volunteer Rescuers (be it CFS or SES) that they need the patient out of the vehicle 10 minutes ago and can't they go any quicker?  Then tell them stop and change their minds on how they want the patient extricated five times in ten minutes?

It sounds like you had a specific incident that needs to be sorted out in the correct manner - through your chain of command.  Whinging on this forum will not help the situation.

It is unfair that you tarnish every volunteer with your negative experience at one incident.  Get some perspective!



Oh, and punctuation helps get your message across a lot clearer...

Let's send TFT branches over there!  would certainly help them!

From the sounds of the situation they are going to need a lot more than a couple of extra branches to remedy it...

From the looks of it, the job was dispatched according to the response information that was placed into the system by CFS...

According to the Road Crash Rescue Directory - if the address states McLaren Vale, the correct response is McLaren Vale for Fire and Aldinga Beach for rescue...

Least if you keep it with one style of ageny.  such as fire,  we all know who to call.   

Considering that dispatch for MFS, CFS and SES all come from the same place, your argument is null and void...

Saw this pager message on the decoder yesterday...

15:11:57 05-06-07 SHQ: R1 INFO: INFO SESSIONS RE THE AMALGAMATION OF THE CFS SOCC WITH MFS COMCEN WILL BE AT R1 HQ 14.06.07 & MAWSON BASE 21.06.07 BOTH 19:30HRS. BRIGADES ENCOURAGED TO SEND A REP. RSVP TO YOUR GRP OFFICER. < 05/06/2007 15:11:46


Does anyone know what's going on with this?  Will it effect CFS brigades at all?