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OFF Topic / Re: In The Line Of Fire
« on: January 09, 2008, 10:51:59 AM »
that just annoyed me last night.... watched it, but it just flicks back and forward between the two seperate jobs rather than focusing on one story at a time... which is enough to annoy you in the first place...


and then, they filtered well finished the episode halfway through a story!!!

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 09, 2008, 10:48:57 AM »
well this thread certainly turned into a bit of a joke....  :roll:

same story with every thread on this board though... theres always someone willing to bring it down (myself included at times). I mean lets face it, this has veered away from intelligent discussion, to just plain dumb comments...

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unless you're some sick character with a sexual fetish for fires (and prob lit half of the ones you turn out to)

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Now if you guys want to re-live your "glory moments" at fires, so be it!

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How tempting is it to get close up footage of media restricted areas and then be offered a payment to supply it to a media organisation.


as stated before, use discretion, and the same rules in regards to registration plates/names/faces/permission that you apply to normal still cameras at incidents & training [and dont try to filtered me/us that still cameras arent in extremely wide use for incident photography]... and it could prove to be an invaluable training tool.

how many brigades have watched videos of black tuesday, canberra, etc for training? dead man zone? the "christmas tree video" etc etc etc.... some of them may be 'proffesional' videos, but they still use actual incident photography to demonstrate situations.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 08, 2008, 09:52:12 PM »
OldOne - not tempting at all mate, when you consider the possible repurcussions ;) when your talking about an incident that may be 'restricted from the media' then of course that is where you use common sense, and take the camera off your helmet...


we're all forgetting, that we are all (well most) sensible people im sure... people know what is the right & wrong thing to do in regards to recording of incidents, and publishing of material.


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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 08, 2008, 06:01:35 PM »
well considering it just clips into a bracket, i cant see a problem with that...


but why would you have to take it off? surely just not turning it on is enough ;)

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331's MDT has been playing up i believe...hence it may be fixed now ;)



theyve always had MDT problems... i think the problem now is an MCT

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 08, 2008, 05:40:23 PM »
IC/Manager would definately have that power mate. - Some people might not like to be filmed (meaning members of other agencies).. It could be quite intimidating / 'off putting' to try and do your job with a camera lens in your face..
well.... actually, an ambo (of any rank) would not have the power to 'order' you (a firefighter) to turn it off, or remove it. Im sure if they asked nicely though ;)

Would be interesting if you filmed a SAPOL STAR squad officer at a land search tasking...from my limited knowledge they do not like their faces in pictures.

mmm well since there the control agency for that task, i would suggest as they call the shots, they could tell you to turn it off...

i think people are missing the point though, my purchase of this camera is with the intent of using it at fire scenes.... not for getting close & personal with casualties at VAs, etc

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 08, 2008, 04:51:27 PM »
IC/Manager would definately have that power mate. - Some people might not like to be filmed (meaning members of other agencies).. It could be quite intimidating / 'off putting' to try and do your job with a camera lens in your face..


well.... actually, an ambo (of any rank) would not have the power to 'order' you (a firefighter) to turn it off, or remove it. Im sure if they asked nicely though ;)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 08, 2008, 03:48:14 PM »
so how does management feel about the use of it?  if someone with a helmet-cam turned up to a job I was managing they'd be promptly and politely asked to ensure it is turned off or preferably removed.


there will always be moments when it may not be appropriate to be recording... im sure most people are responsible neough to realise this. since there has never been any stop to still photography at incidents (and in fact in some places it is encouraged), im sure that it wouldnt be a problem.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 08, 2008, 03:45:29 PM »
whoever was riding down the esplanade at seaford must have looked like a right tool with a fire helmet riding a pushbike!! :evil: :-D

Are you sure it's not a motorbike?

or even a bright green scooter?   :wink:

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98 & pump 981 are training numbers i believe... training & testing.

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i think its only a select few brigades being allowed to trial it for a while... sometime soon.

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OFF Topic / Re: In The Line Of Fire
« on: January 07, 2008, 09:06:11 AM »
end of the week mate ;)



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SA Firefighter General / Re: Volunteer Retention
« on: January 07, 2008, 09:05:38 AM »
well Matt i think the answer to that is it depends on your brigade location i know  especially in the day around here any crew is good crew. but at least 4 is really good.

not being rude, but the answer to that is actually in the SOPs...

I know its a lot harder to get a full crew in some areas... but at the end of the day, what is a crew of 2 going to do at a working structure fire?

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 MFS: INC # 29 - 07/01/08 08:11,RESPOND To,1 ROBIN ST,MURRAY BRIDGE, MAP 350 F 15 ,,COMPLAINING OF
 SMELLING SMOKE IN HER HOUSE - BELIEVED TO BE THE 3RD TIME,MBR721*CFSRES:


surely enough is enough....

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Volunteer Retention
« on: January 07, 2008, 06:34:53 AM »
i like the idea of paging when the appliance has returned to station...

but dont really agree with the hundreds of pager messages you see daily stating, appliance has responded, appliance is on scene, appliance still on scene, etc etc... some brigades are notorious for this, and it just seems like a waste (perhaps they dont realise how much it costs wvery time we drop a page??)

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 05, 2008, 03:54:42 PM »
Does it matter if its safe or not?? GRN and VHF radios are not......

Of course it matters.

phhht.... if it mattered all CFS radios would be intrinsically safe...

of course it matters, but not for every job.
im sure common sense can be used.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 05, 2008, 07:43:29 AM »
looks good can't wait to see the action from the cam,and no need to be nasty and cheap.....

yeh looks good jono.

and numbers..... lets try not to bring every thread down.

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SA Firefighter General / Re: Helmet Camera
« on: January 04, 2008, 05:07:30 PM »
eeew ouch.

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OFF Topic / Re: In The Line Of Fire
« on: January 03, 2008, 10:09:46 PM »
cool, sounds like we ended up spending the same anyway... yeh should be interesting to see how good the helmet mount is.... if theres any probs i might head out to the shed and fiddle one up....

 :wink:


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OFF Topic / Re: In The Line Of Fire
« on: January 03, 2008, 09:02:01 PM »
cheers for the link Jono...

thats the same camera as the ones from my link i think...

i ended up ordering from the site, ends up costing $20AUD more, however comes with the proper helmet mount as well as batteries & charger.


will hopefully get some vids to post on youtube soon ;)

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Fire Fighter Training / Re: CABA soccer
« on: January 03, 2008, 03:45:14 PM »
If people are so against the idea of CABA soccer/sports


does anyone have any other ideas of FUN things that can be done while wearing ba for training??

swimming.....

it does actually work.











momentarily.

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OFF Topic / Re: In The Line Of Fire
« on: January 03, 2008, 09:44:24 AM »
Got mine for chrissy :D Alot cheaper of Ebay and exactly the same thing. Still havnt used it yet, spent alot of time modifying a torch clip to suit it :D i'll post some pics and a vid once i use it!

I was quoted $45 for postage of the site + Purchase

Off Ebay $99 for the camera and only $35 postage.


yeh 45 is the s/h quote i was given...

do you have a link to the ebay one jono? hows the footage from it?

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Country Fire Service / Re: Occurrence books for all!
« on: January 02, 2008, 04:57:12 PM »
Darius - i would expect group officers & IMTs (the ops officers you refer to?) to use occurence books like those in stations to record these convos...

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OFF Topic / Re: In The Line Of Fire
« on: January 02, 2008, 03:28:26 PM »
Also a new one on monday at 7.30 channel 9 inferno 999 about UK Firefighters saving life and property.

This is a great small series from the Uk, The best angles are from the fire helmet cams!

has anyone bought these at all? http://firecamera.com/index.cfm?Section=1&PageNum=1

i did hear that CFSFirey may have been looking at one?

i have a mate from MFS that has one, says they are great for day work, not so flash for night...

thinking of getting one.... (havent had any reply from there website though)

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Country Fire Service / Re: Occurrence books for all!
« on: January 02, 2008, 11:00:37 AM »
More paperwork next i guess we will see video recorders in appliances ........


aaah but that would be awesome.....dashcam.

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